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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Schewe on March 17, 2018, 12:59:01 am

Title: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Schewe on March 17, 2018, 12:59:01 am
(http://schewephoto.com/misc/naked.jpg)

Barry Blitt’s “Exposed” (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2018-03-26)

And, of course, from the Official White House network:

Outrage over New Yorker mag's 'repulsive' body-shaming of President Trump (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/03/16/outrage-over-new-yorker-mags-repulsive-body-shamping-president-trump.html)

I did get a kick out of the term “girthers” (for people who don't believe that Trump stands 6-foot-3 and only weighs 239 pounds).
What goes around comes around...
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: texshooter on March 17, 2018, 03:00:27 am
Somebody's gonna get a black eye for that.

(https://crooksandliars.com/files/imagecache/post_large/images/16/07/little_hands_trump.jpg)
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: LesPalenik on March 17, 2018, 03:53:49 am
New Yorker would sell many more copies, if they put Melania on the front cover. Or Stormy Daniels.
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on March 17, 2018, 06:48:28 am
New Yorker would sell many more copies, if they put Melania on the front cover. Or Stormy Daniels.

With, or without Donald?

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: pegelli on March 17, 2018, 06:58:24 am
The Dutch artist Jet Nijkamp (http://www.jetnijkamp.nl/dresslikeawoman.htm) worked on some "changes" to Trump pictures in newspapers and dressed him up like a Woman by using pastel crayons.

It's basically her reaction against Trumps demand that his Female employees shoud dress more "feminine"

I like these scetches a lot ;), but I guess the reactions to them will be as mixed as always
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on March 17, 2018, 08:05:09 am
I am not a fan of Mr. Trump, but fail to see the point. Making a joke? If so, seems poor to me. Gratuitous.
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Robert Roaldi on March 17, 2018, 08:16:21 am
I am not a fan of Mr. Trump, but fail to see the point. Making a joke? If so, seems poor to me. Gratuitous.

There is a long and fine tradition of cartoonists skewering politicians and of comedians ridiculing them. I have no problem with that.

Imagine if a year ago a cartoonist had penned an image of Trump throwing rolls of paper towels at people after a flood or hurricane. I bet some people would have been offended by that.
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Rob C on March 17, 2018, 09:31:47 am
There is a long and fine tradition of cartoonists skewering politicians and of comedians ridiculing them. I have no problem with that.

Imagine if a year ago a cartoonist had penned an image of Trump throwing rolls of paper towels at people after a flood or hurricane. I bet some people would have been offended by that.

;-)  !
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: OmerV on March 17, 2018, 10:36:31 am
There is a long and fine tradition of cartoonists skewering politicians and of comedians ridiculing them. I have no problem with that.

Imagine if a year ago a cartoonist had penned an image of Trump throwing rolls of paper towels at people after a flood or hurricane. I bet some people would have been offended by that.
Yep. I'm no expert but it seems today's politicians have it easy compared to the lacerating satire of the past couple of centuries.
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 17, 2018, 10:55:56 am
... body-shaming of President Trump..

What goes around comes around...

The irony of pot calling the kettle black  ;)
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Schewe on March 17, 2018, 11:37:39 am
The irony of pot calling the kettle black  ;)

You calling me the pot or the kettle?
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: ErikKaffehr on March 17, 2018, 11:52:13 am
Hi Jeff,

I am just thinking about the emperor's new cloths...

Best regards
Erik


(http://schewephoto.com/misc/naked.jpg)

Barry Blitt’s “Exposed” (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2018-03-26)

And, of course, from the Official White House network:

Outrage over New Yorker mag's 'repulsive' body-shaming of President Trump (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/03/16/outrage-over-new-yorker-mags-repulsive-body-shamping-president-trump.html)

I did get a kick out of the term “girthers” (for people who don't believe that Trump stands 6-foot-3 and only weighs 239 pounds).
What goes around comes around...
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Frans Waterlander on March 17, 2018, 12:08:51 pm
Give it a rest, Jeff!
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Schewe on March 17, 2018, 01:47:30 pm
Give it a rest, Jeff!

Wait, what? Give what a rest? Responding to Slobodan? Posting funny stuff about Trump? Posting in the Coffee Corner or LuLa in general? Care to use more words?

Funny aside, I couldn't quite place you so I clicked on your name and checked your posts...did you know you posted the exact same thing, word for word, twice in a row?

Om 3-17-18:
Give it a rest, Jeff!

and on 3-4-18:
Give it a rest, Jeff!

At least you are consistent...oh, wait, last year in Trump II you did change it up!

7-14-17:
Quote from: Frans Waterlander
Get a life, Jeff!


Wow...out of your 112 posts you wasted 3 of them on me. (actually the wasted count is higher but those are just the post on the 1st page of your post count at: Messages - Frans Waterlander (http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=72202))
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Schewe on March 17, 2018, 02:05:47 pm
I like these scetches a lot ;), but I guess the reactions to them will be as mixed as always

I like them too...it reminds me of this from last year:

Someone Is Photoshopping Trump’s Face On The Queen, And The Results Are Scary (https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-donald-trump-queen-elizabeth-photohop-trumpqueen/)

(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/funny-donald-trump-queen-elizabeth-photohop-trumpqueen-35-584a7656c872c__700.jpg)

Actually, scathing political humor is a mainstay in American politics...

10 Provocative Political Cartoons That Shaped Public Opinion (https://listverse.com/2016/09/17/10-provocative-political-cartoons-that-shaped-public-opinion/)
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Editorial cartoons have been around since the early 18th century. Politicians, monarchs, and highly influential people are targeted to make a point, and in many cases, these have been very provocative. Whether they have been used to raise awareness for corruption or to support or discourage warfare and conflict, political cartoons have been an influential aspect of modern print for years.

(https://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/1-14.jpg)

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“Join, or Die” is recognized as the first political cartoon published in America. The drawing of the fragmented snake was first printed on May 9, 1754, in Franklin’s Pennsylvania Gazette, more than 20 years before the war for American independence. While the phrase “Join, or Die” became the battle cry of the American Revolution, the cartoon was illustrated to depict the fractured colonies in support of unifying against French expansion (http://www.history.org/history/teaching/enewsletter/volume5/november06/primsource.cfm) in North America during the Seven Years’ War. Decades later, the image would be used alongside the slogan to unite the colonies against Britain.

Course, Obama was the butt of many political cartoons too:
Barack Obama Cartoons (https://www.washingtontimes.com/cartoons/obama-presidency/)

(https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2018/01/03/20180104hunter_s878x638.jpg?c76ab25fea2de3dffeb67c2f1f8ae424c65c0d8c)
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Manoli on March 17, 2018, 02:47:47 pm
Politics aside, that IS amusing ...

I like them too...it reminds me of this from last year:
Someone Is Photoshopping Trump’s Face On The Queen, And The Results Are Scary (https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-donald-trump-queen-elizabeth-photohop-trumpqueen/)

(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/funny-donald-trump-queen-elizabeth-photohop-trumpqueen-35-584a7656c872c__700.jpg)
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 17, 2018, 03:02:48 pm
... Course, Obama was the butt of many political cartoons too:

(https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2018/01/03/20180104hunter_s878x638.jpg?c76ab25fea2de3dffeb67c2f1f8ae424c65c0d8c)

Ah, Jeff becoming "fair and balanced" ;)

Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Tim Lookingbill on March 17, 2018, 04:12:12 pm
Don't know if you guys caught this on the news last week but the ability to put people's faces on videos to convincingly make them say things they never said is quite a disturbing technology and makes fake news claims the least of our worries...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5794831/fake-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-videos-porn-app-risk-global-nuclear-war/

Oops, spoke too soon...The New Yorker is selling for $8.99 a copy?! Is that paperback or hard cover? Now that's something to worry about. ;D
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Rob C on March 17, 2018, 06:20:51 pm
The only saving grace The Sun ever enjoyed was that it became a very useful place to spot new models courtesy its Page 3 offerings. Helped me a lot and saved a great deal of time.

Read it? Are you nuts?

:-)
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: Tim Lookingbill on March 17, 2018, 10:50:27 pm
The only saving grace The Sun ever enjoyed was that it became a very useful place to spot new models courtesy its Page 3 offerings. Helped me a lot and saved a great deal of time.

Read it? Are you nuts?

:-)

That Sun story you seemed to have dismissed was not where I saw this originally. That link was the most thorough to what I saw shown on US network broadcast. Do a google search on this topic and you will see what can be done with video manipulation these days.

Rob, you might want to consider the information first before you judge the source. This technology exists and that was my point. The Sun just made it seem more amplified, but of course that's what rags do to sell papers. I have enough sense to know that without being told in online forums.
Title: Re: Is an illustration also worth 1000 words?
Post by: LesPalenik on March 21, 2018, 11:20:37 pm
Some enterprising "artist" just copied and sold that New Yorker picture on FineArt America POD site.

https://fineartamerica.com/saleannouncement.html?id=a06d21e65bf3de90f1481daf05300120

That's more than just one crime in that transaction.