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The Art of Photography => Landscape Showcase => Topic started by: KMRennie on November 15, 2017, 06:02:30 am

Title: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: KMRennie on November 15, 2017, 06:02:30 am
Up before dawn to try and use the forecast mist to get minimalist tree shots. Like mist the world over it was very patchy with a spectacular sunrise in 1 location and totally devoid of colour in another just a few miles away. This is the best that I got. Ken
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: thierrylegros396 on November 15, 2017, 06:46:37 am
Both version work.

But I prefer the first one because of the color warmth and gradient.

Thierry
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Alskoj on November 15, 2017, 06:55:16 am
#1!

Joe
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Dave (Isle of Skye) on November 15, 2017, 07:06:55 am
Well call me 'Harry Opposite', but I prefer the composition of the second one, although both images are beautiful there is no doubt in that, but it is the second one that would end up hanging on my wall I think  :)

Dave
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Bob_B on November 15, 2017, 08:14:02 am
#2 for me as well (but both are wall-worthy).
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Walt Roycraft on November 15, 2017, 10:52:15 am
#2 for me as well. I like the juxtaposition of the 2 trees. The smaller, more distant one looks like it is trying to escape the scene off to the left. That balances the open space to the right. For me that creates a pleasing tension and more dynamic cropping.
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 15, 2017, 11:02:55 am
They are both beautiful.
Just looking at the thumbnails, I prefer the second, compositionally.
But when I enlarge them, I find I really like seeing both of the small trees t the left.
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on November 15, 2017, 02:08:28 pm
The colours of the first are more appealing, but I prefer the composition of the second.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: KMRennie on November 15, 2017, 02:15:27 pm
It was an odd morning with the colour getting bluer as the morning went on contrary to normal practice. I think that their is a touch of magenta in the first image although I have tried to remove it. Ken
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: farbschlurf on November 15, 2017, 03:22:39 pm
i, also, like the 2nd better. more tension in there. cannot judge colors on the thing i‘m viewing right now.
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: MattBurt on November 16, 2017, 01:18:11 pm
Great shots! I prefer the color of #1 and the composition of #2. :)
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: francois on November 17, 2017, 03:46:08 am
I like them so much that I cannot favor one over the other!
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: KMRennie on November 18, 2017, 09:00:43 am
Thanks everyone. Another go at both. I removed the sun from one of them to simplify the composition and have warmed up the other as requested. I don't know whether the warming makes it any better but I still like it. Comments? Ken
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: farbschlurf on November 18, 2017, 01:15:02 pm
For me, both 2nd versions are improvements. Very well done. Couldn't decide between those two, actually. I'm glad I don't have to.
:-)
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: maddogmurph on November 18, 2017, 10:16:59 pm
Tough shots to work with. Not sure how to explain it, but I can't get my arms around what I would do if I were processing them. I'd probably hold the foreground a little cooler and warm the sky (as you've done in the later posts). I'd also consider looking into adding some clarity/depth by trying to bring out the trees deep in the fog. The clouds in the sky make the shot compelling, but somehow the color balance of the blue sky is slightly lack luster. This typically occurs when an entire photo is color adjusted - perhaps see if you can isolate the blue in the sky and touch down the luminosity to increase the depth of the blue?

Anyway, great images. Nothing really needed in the end.
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Peter McLennan on November 18, 2017, 10:37:32 pm
I think I prefer the last version, the last image posted.  The singular tree at left is more balanced, more focused when it's not complicated by the presence of the others even further left.  I love the palette.

I love the images.  Thanks for getting up early!
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: KMRennie on November 19, 2017, 07:29:45 am
Murphy I must be getting too subtle their are 3 different colour balances in the image. The foreground is warmer than the rest of the image and the sky at the top left is much cooler than the rest of the sky. Ken
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: donbga on November 19, 2017, 08:28:37 am
For my eye #2 is the preferred composition.

The second compositions (also the first) have an unnatural corner burn down, IMO. The latter being way too dark. I think if you print these you will get a better feel for what and which works.
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: KMRennie on November 19, 2017, 09:21:07 am
Dongba the "unnatural" corner burn down is the the land falling towards you making this part in shadow and therefore darker. Are you viewing this on a small display? Ken
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on November 19, 2017, 01:14:10 pm
The second is certainly improved by the increased warmth, although you have lost something around the base of the tree. I'm afraid that in my view your reprocessing - particularly the removal of the sun - has ruined the first.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Tony Jay on November 20, 2017, 05:06:17 am
For me the original #1 was the best, however the reworked #2 is right up there...

Tony Jay
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on November 20, 2017, 05:55:00 am
Very good, both.
Title: Re: Misty Dawn at Walltown Crags
Post by: donbga on November 24, 2017, 09:29:18 pm
Are you viewing this on a small display? Ken

No.