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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Other Raw Converters => Topic started by: peterwgallagher on November 01, 2017, 06:49:47 pm

Title: Why upgrade Luminar?
Post by: peterwgallagher on November 01, 2017, 06:49:47 pm
[Just venting annoyance: apologies]

I purchased Luminar for AUD 84 in June. I found it to be still sort of 'unsettled', like a lot of new software. It is over-stuffed (with tricksy 'filters') and under-powered (printing? color-profiling? workflow aids?). But it had some interesting ideas. I hoped they'd continue to improve in the usual way through dot-upgrades as they seemed to indicate they would. And they were widely marketing their work on a forthcoming "DAM", so I expected I'd get a 'dot upgrade' there, too.

Now I'm disappointed by their suggestion I should pay a further AUD 54 for a "pre-order" upgrade to their still unpublished cross-platform version with the promised (but untried and unspecified) "DAM". I'm inclined, instead, to abandon Luminar as just another 'sunk cost' (like my flirtation with On1).

Macphun are directly targeting Lightroom with their new marketing campaign. Presumably, they appreciate that it's very expensive in a lot of ways for LR users to switch horses. But it's completely pointless, if it means just more upgrade 'suck' for immature software.

Also, I don't buy their suggestion that 'filters' are the 'modern' way to work or that direct manipulation of discrete image characteristics such as contrast, luminance, saturation etc or the use of local exposure manipulation and edge- and luminance-masking etc is 'old' technology. I'm certainly interested in new technologies for manipulating the digital signal to alter the representation of captured light (e.g. Adobe's 'Dehaze'). But filters that 'mash-up' these technologies take the art out of processing in the name of a (mostly) illusory convenience.

In my view, filter-bundles are too often non-transparent and too often supervene artistic choice. The results are uniformly "stunning" (iPhone captures) and inevitably boring.

Then... come think of it, why would I pay any more money to a company that thinks its current name isn't silly enough?

[/venting]

Peter
Title: Re: Why upgrade Luminar?
Post by: jwstl on November 02, 2017, 12:25:50 pm
I think expecting the addition of a DAM to be part of dot upgrade was far from realistic. Frankly, if it's good, it's a small price to pay. As to the filters, if you don't like them, don't use them. Filters aren't the only way of working in the app.
Title: Re: Why upgrade Luminar?
Post by: David S on November 02, 2017, 03:42:17 pm
Program works and the price is good and it is not a subscriber issue.

Dave S
Title: Re: Why upgrade Luminar?
Post by: Lundberg02 on November 02, 2017, 07:24:35 pm
Did you get an email recently about a pre-order? I have Luminar although I haven't tried it at all, just opened to make sure it installed. but I have received nothing from Macphun.
Title: Re: Why upgrade Luminar?
Post by: David S on November 02, 2017, 10:36:56 pm
Yes I got an email about the upgrade.

Dave S
Title: Re: Why upgrade Luminar?
Post by: luxborealis on November 14, 2017, 08:13:48 pm
Thanks Peter for your frank description. Iím thinking about Luminar, but am not convinced, certainly not by gimmicky filters.

Whatís your assessment of the raw conversion quality and the basic adjustments (those similar to LR)?
Title: Re: Why upgrade Luminar?
Post by: Bob Rockefeller on November 30, 2017, 08:40:33 am
Whatís your assessment of the raw conversion quality and the basic adjustments (those similar to LR)?

These are the important things to me. If it can't get at least excellent raw demosaicing done, there are better choices, albeit more expensive, for me.