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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Black & White => Topic started by: drmike on October 17, 2017, 04:37:44 pm
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Hi have I missed any discussion of books by Vincent Versace, like From Oz to Kansas?
Anyone have any opinion about the man and the books?
Are there better alternatives?
Mike
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Hi have I missed any discussion of books by Vincent Versace, like From Oz to Kansas?
Anyone have any opinion about the man and the books?
Are there better alternatives?
Mike
You would have to look at the archives. I vaguely remember some discussion of the B/W conversion book mentioned above. I do a lot of B/W processing and have a number of books in my collection including the Versace book. I was not impressed. My favorite book on conversion is the one by Leslie Alsheimer and Bryan O'Neil Huges, "Black and White in Photoshop CS4 and Photoshop Lightroom." The explanations of the workflows are better IMO.
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I have to agree with Alan. I think the Versace books are really "workbooks" and intended to take you through a workflow that was impressive when I first went through it, but is now supplanted (for me) by Tony Kuyper's TK Action Panels for luminosity masking. Reading between the lines of the Versace books, you can pick up some very interesting thought on how to analyze an image.
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Thanks guys. I shall seek out those books.
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I have books by Versace and, believe you me, you will feel dizzy after reading them. A never-ending and meandering foray into the mind of either pure genius or madness. I'll let you decide which.
And the best news is his book From Oz to Kansas can be purchased at Amazon.com for a pittance of $131.95 new (or $79.98 used).
I'd sell you my copy, but I have it enshrined next to Lewis Caroll`s Jabberwocky.
https://www.amazon.com/Oz-Kansas-Almost-Conversion-Technique/dp/0321794028/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517789799&sr=8-1&keywords=Oz+to+kansas (https://www.amazon.com/Oz-Kansas-Almost-Conversion-Technique/dp/0321794028/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517789799&sr=8-1&keywords=Oz+to+kansas)
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I have books by Versace and, believe you me, you will feel dizzy after reading them. A never-ending and meandering foray into the mind of either pure genius or madness. I'll let you decide which.
And the best news is his book From Oz to Kansas can be purchased at Amazon.com for a pittance of $131.95 new (or $79.98 used).
Almost as good as a Bitcoin investment. I'm happy to sell my almost mint edition for the discount price of $125.
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A never-ending and meandering foray into the mind of either pure genius or madness.
If you've ever spent any time with Vincent, you'll quickly see it's both. ;D
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Is that his color target? :P
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If you've ever spent any time with Vincent, you'll quickly see it's both. ;D
Yes, indeed. Truly a memorable character.
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$641.57 and climbing.
Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Oz-Kansas-Almost-Conversion-Technique/dp/0321794028/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517789799&sr=8-1&keywords=Oz+to+kansas)
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Look him up on YouTube. His lectures are similar to his books in their content and presentation.
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A fun video with Vincent......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77sx6lvXTac
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Look him up on YouTube. His lectures are similar to his books in their content and presentation.
I did here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiEuS5zX51E). More than an hour of this:
"The best way to take a photograph is to let the photograph take you."
"An interesting plainness is the most difficult thing to achieve."
"You want to take a photograph as if the person looking at it was standing in the same place you were when the photograph took you."
"Have thoughtful thoughtless thoughts and do the right thing at the right moment without thinking about doing it."
"Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
"Know the camera as well as you know yourself, you will know the outcome of every photograph. Know your camera half as well as you know yourself, you'll get half the shots and lose half the shots. But don't know your camera and you'll be truly lost."
"Your biggest critic sits in the same chair as you do."
"We blame ourselves for the faults of technology, and we blame technology for the faults of our own."
"If you travel in a circle, do it in a straight line."
"There is a reason why I carry in my backpack all these lenses.
70-200mm f4-5
70-200mm f2.8
70-210mm push/pull
24-120mm
80-400mm
70-300mm
28-300mm"
"The photograph tells one story, but there is a different story behind the photograph."
"Minimize the cumulative and negate the multiplicative."
"Shoot your portraits like landscapes and your landscapes like portraits."
"At the point you say it doesn't matter in your image is the point at which you say your image doesn't matter."
"Bokeh is like the Caesar salad dressing of optics. It's made up of anchovies (strong), raw garlic (strong), red wine vinegar (strong), Colman's hot mustartd (strong), Parmesan cheese (strong), olive oil (not so strong). Put it all together, and what do you get? A mild dressing."
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;D Yep, he’s a philosopher/poet. :D