Luminous Landscape Forum
Site & Board Matters => About This Site => Topic started by: tom b on October 15, 2017, 07:53:49 pm
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Hey, my 67 year old sister can upload photos to Facebook travelling overseas from a tablet. Why is it so hard for an experienced web user to upload photos to LuLa, a photography site? I shouldn't have to link to an image on a third party site.
Just thinking,
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....Why is it so hard for an experienced web user to upload photos to LuLa, a photography site?
It isn't hard... for an "experienced web user" anyway
...I shouldn't have to link to an image on a third party site...
And you don't have to. Just click on the "Attachments and other options" and then click on "Attach"
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It isn't hard... for an experienced web user anyway
And you don't have to. Just click on the "Attachments and other options" and then click on "Attach"
So you have to be an experienced web user! You have got to be joking, the default should be "Attach" no it should be maybe like Facebook click Photo/Video. I'm an experienced web user and I find it hard to believe there is no intuitive way to attach a photo on LuLa a photography web site.
Just saying,
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... I'm an experienced web user...
Notwithstanding the evidence ;)
P.S. I corrected my post above to put quotation marks around your reference to "experienced web user" since you don't really need to be one to attach an image to LuLa
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Facebook is a multi billion dollar company that caters for the lowest possible capability.
Lula requires two clicks and then you select the image you want to upload. It's very much a standard style of forum interface in that regard.
Perhaps it could be renamed "Image attachments and other options" but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of attachments here would be images.
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It takes two clicks on Facebook and three clicks on LuLa to come to the same screen ... that's a 50% increase in Carpal Tunnel syndrome risk... awful ;)
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This is all true IF you have the image already loaded somewhere on the web. That takes few more keystrokes than three.
Other sites I belong to allow direct downloading and storage to the forum. No third party hosting required.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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It's a simple process. At the bottom of the post select attachment and other options. then choose file and then select the image to be uploaded. You will then see the path for the file. and click post. the image I have uploaded is one that appears in our What's New section and was uploaded from my desktop.
You may be getting confused with trying to add an image from the tools at the top of the post page. The image is then clickable to see at a larger size once posted. Please read forum guidelines for maximum image size etc.
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This is all true IF you have the image already loaded somewhere on the web. That takes few more keystrokes than three.
Other sites I belong to allow direct downloading and storage to the forum. No third party hosting required.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Slobodan is correct, you can upload directly.
The two problems are that the default is to link to another site, many clicks in the process, so much preperation.
The other is that you can choose, "Attachments and other options" and then click on "Attach". So intuitive, not.
There are approximately 1.8 billion images uploaded to the web each day. LuLa with around a dozen or so images uploaded each day needs to catch up…
Cheers,
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This is all true IF you have the image already loaded somewhere on the web. That takes few more keystrokes than three...
Nope.
Exactly three clicks to upload an image from your computer. That is what I was comparing in my post above, as the OP wanted to upload photos from his computer.
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Nope.
Exactly three clicks to upload an image from your computer. That is what I was comparing in my post above, as the OP wanted to upload photos from his computer.
Down the rabbit hole…
I have no idea what this post will look like. Adding a photo should be simple but it isn't.
Cheers,
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It looks fine, Tom, there are two attachments visible.
The disadvantage of attaching an image is that you can not preview it before posting , I know.
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There are approximately 1.8 billion images uploaded to the web each day. LuLa with around a dozen or so images uploaded each day needs to catch up…
But that's just the point. After all these years, this is the first time I recall someone having an "extended" issue (others have asked how to do it, of course).
Like I said, beyond changing the name slightly, how can you make it any easier?
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IMO renaming “Attachments” to “Images” would reduce confusion. The way it is now is an artifact from the e-mail era. :)
-Dave-
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Dave is Right - it is an artefact.
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... The way it is now is an artifact from the e-mail era. :)
Only an artifact from the email era would write it with a dash ;)
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OK, Tom now you can upload an image - mission accomplished. The software cannot be modified by LuLa as it a third party solution. Best we can do is request a better way to attach images or even better wording. Consider that done. We'll have to see if we something different in a future upgrade.
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Only an artifact from the email era would write it with a dash ;)
Yep, I am quite dash-ing. ;D
-Dave-
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But that's just the point. After all these years, this is the first time I recall someone having an "extended" issue (others have asked how to do it, of course).
Like I said, beyond changing the name slightly, how can you make it any easier?
Hey I've just tried to reinvigorate my Remarkable Rocks (http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=33083.0) thread. A quick look at the thread (175,000+ views) will show LuLa's historical problems with posting photos.
Cheers,
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Hey I've just tried to reinvigorate my Remarkable Rocks (http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=33083.0) thread. A quick look at the thread (175,000+ views) will show LuLa's historical problems with posting photos.
A "quick" look at the thread of 20 pages is impossible, so why not tell us directly what exactly is the "LuLa's historical problem with posting photos"? I never knew there is one.
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Hey I've just tried to reinvigorate my Remarkable Rocks (http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=33083.0) thread. A quick look at the thread (175,000+ views) will show LuLa's historical problems with posting photos.
And the very first thing I see when I click the link to the thread is you posting, with an image attached, March 18, 2009, 10:27:45 PM...
The most recent post of an image (currently the penultimate post of the thread) is from Les October 09, 2017, 09:16:08 PM.
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A "quick" look at the thread of 20 pages is impossible, so why not tell us directly what exactly is the "LuLa's historical problem with posting photos"? I never knew there is one.
Ugly links info.
Link rot.
Images as thumbnails, "Attachments" need to be clicked on to be seen as full sized, as opposed with "linked" images.
Funky advertising hacks.
Sorry, LuLa doesn't make it easy to create a neat narrative to explain problems. Hey, I can't even see what my post looks like until I post it.
Cheers,
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If you think about it a little (but not too much), you will realize that there are essentially two ways to post an image on the LuLa Forum, and one is more stable than the other.
Method 1: Provide a link to an image that occurs on some other website (such as Flicker, etc.)
Method 2: Click on Attachments and other options and choose an image on your own computer to upload to the forum.
All of the "ugly links" problems result from the use of Method 1, because if someone either removes the image from its 2009 location or replaces it with an ad or fails to keep the URL, then the image cannot be seen thereafter on LuLa (or anywhere else it is linked to.
Hence, Method 2 is the only reliable way to ensure that your image will still be visible in eight year's time. If you use method 2 and wish to remove a post, you can always delete it (as long as you are still a LuLa member.)
A broken link to an image is NOT LuLa's fault.
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... A broken link to an image is NOT LuLa's fault.
But, but, Eric... we live in a society and era where everything is somebody else's fault ;)
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But, but, Eric... we live in a society and era where everything is somebody else's fault ;)
Maybe just a poor designer's fault for the new LuLa interface.
Oops, I've been told that the image I wanted to upload to explain the problem was the problem.
Buttons not buttons (more attachments). No upload button, just Post or Preview (Prieview doesn't work). Hey even the the jpeg that I uploaded as an example has been cropped so that you can't see the Post/Preview buttons
Not happy,
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... Not happy,
I don't know, I had zero problems uploading this picture:
(https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/mp/compositions/P1017632281MPC1027759440/views/1,width=300,height=300,appearanceId=2,backgroundColor=E8E8E8,version=1492371876/grumpy-old-man-t-shirts-men-s-t-shirt.jpg)
Or this one:
(http://media.istockphoto.com/vectors/grumpy-old-man-vector-id164510786?k=6&m=164510786&s=612x612&w=0&h=xAHF9MK0pX-nhx3F9XOPLPfruKykM0510Zd9327OiPE=)
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Nooooooooooo,
This is what I got when reposting the grumpy old man image.
Really,
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Message Body and Attachments are two separate components of a message.
If you are observant (as photographers are sometimes rumored to be,) you might notice that some folks who don't want to include words in the message use "..." instead, which will avoid that nasty error message you got.
Attachments are optional. Message body (i.e., text) is not. It didn't take much effort to figure that out.
But, but, Eric... we live in a society and era where everything is somebody else's fault ;)
So obviously you need to blame Slobodan for anything that goes wrong. :D