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The Art of Photography => Landscape Showcase => Topic started by: KMRennie on September 08, 2017, 04:52:31 pm

Title: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: KMRennie on September 08, 2017, 04:52:31 pm
Shot last November on Gowbarrow above Ullswater in the English Lake District. A dramatic day of snow and light rays. I am still resisting the temptation to lift the shadows more than a touch. Any comments? Ken
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 08, 2017, 08:02:46 pm
I like it just as it is. There is just enough detail in the shadows, and the lighted parts are gorgeous.
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: sdwilsonsct on September 09, 2017, 01:31:30 am
I am still resisting the temptation to lift the shadows more than a touch.

Only if you want more realism. I think it works very well as is.
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: farbschlurf on September 09, 2017, 03:24:50 am
I wouldn't. Even on my dark screen it's not too dim. Beautiful!
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: 32BT on September 09, 2017, 06:07:54 am
Only if you want more realism. I think it works very well as is.

+1

If your trying to achieve a painterly look, this processing works fine. However, the problem here - and this may be the reason for your question - is lack of subject.

The light directs our attention to ..., wel..., uhmm..., an empty field!?

The white cars break any idea of "timeless landscape", making them more of an annoyance than perhaps a faint idea of wanting to drive there myself to experience the surrounds. The house on the right falls of the frame and out of the light, so it misses that "what if i lived there" theme that i usually get from those well known Tuscany locations.

Thus: great capture of light and well processed for painterly dreamlike look, but the image lacks interest because it lacks a distinct subject to merit the processing.

Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: thierrylegros396 on September 09, 2017, 06:58:12 am
I like it just as it is. There is just enough detail in the shadows, and the lighted parts are gorgeous.

+1

Thierry
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: KMRennie on September 09, 2017, 08:31:31 am
Thanks everyone especially Oscar who has got it correct. "Nice light, little content". My comment about not lifting shadows was not really me asking "if I should" but a comment about the use (overuse) of shadow lifting that results in shadows that are almost midtones. However Lula fora are not full of the "no shadow" look but mentioning this in some websites would result in many abusive replies. I hope that the modern trend of milky way shots with foregrounds that are daylight bright quickly fades. Technically wonderful but, to my eyes, jarringly false. Anyway back to my Chiaroscuro attempt. I have cropped the shot a lot more to concentrate on the top patch of light. Comments? Ken
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: RSL on September 09, 2017, 08:46:44 am
DON'T LIFT THE SHADOWS!
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: Rob C on September 09, 2017, 01:46:54 pm
DON'T LIFT THE SHADOWS!


Russ, you're supposed to be heading for the hills! Go, man, go! Never a better time to revisit Colorado.

Rob
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on September 11, 2017, 09:19:06 am
I like it as it is. Shadows should be shadows after all:)
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: Alskoj on October 28, 2017, 10:30:07 pm
I really like this!  I believe that the light is the "subject".
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 28, 2017, 10:49:35 pm
I really like this!  I believe that the light is the "subject".
Absolutely.
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: Bob_B on October 29, 2017, 08:12:46 am
+1 to don't touch the shadows
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: RSL on October 29, 2017, 08:28:28 am

Russ, you're supposed to be heading for the hills! Go, man, go! Never a better time to revisit Colorado.

Rob

I'm a permanent Florida resident now, Rob. Wish I could head for the hills. I love 'em. People think snow is a problem. They should try heat!
Title: Re: On the Road to Dockray
Post by: John R on October 29, 2017, 11:52:14 am
May I suggest the subject is the light, and the fields are secondary but integral. It's a great shot. Wish I was there.

Modified, as I did not see someone already made this point. Sorry.

JR