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Title: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on July 02, 2017, 10:43:28 am
This to restart the Without Prejudice 2 (http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=75820.0) which had become overly long
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on July 02, 2017, 11:33:33 am
OK. Let's get started.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on July 02, 2017, 02:33:31 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 02, 2017, 02:39:19 pm
Bill, do you know about W. Eugene Smith?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on July 02, 2017, 03:08:15 pm
Rob, I've heard of him, but I couldn't tell you anything about him. Presumably, my photo is reminiscent of his work?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 02, 2017, 03:43:59 pm
Just fabulous Bill. Eugene Smith has some incredible work. Look at 3:53 time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bIudVlWo4U

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 02, 2017, 04:16:22 pm
Bill, do you know about W. Eugene Smith?

;-)

Rob

Yeah, Smith's Walk to Paradise Garden sprang to mind immediately!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 02, 2017, 04:19:14 pm
I'll throw one in. This is actually representative of what I typically do with a camera.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on July 02, 2017, 05:52:28 pm
Yeah, Smith's Walk to Paradise Garden sprang to mind immediately!

Ah! The two kids walking away from the camera; I get it now.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 02, 2017, 05:54:09 pm
Chris,

That's the picture on show again, that I'd removed because it turned out at half-size as it still is now it has reappeared!

No wonder I'm still of an analogue mindset... ;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on July 02, 2017, 08:06:44 pm
From an evening walk.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 03, 2017, 03:43:36 pm
Rob,
I love the photo (big size version).

Perhaps you need one of those soft foam mallets they used to sell for whacking your PC when it misbehaves.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on July 03, 2017, 05:34:56 pm
Field scabious (Knautia arvensis)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on July 04, 2017, 02:55:25 am
Perhaps you need one of those soft foam mallets they used to sell for whacking your PC when it misbehaves.

Sometimes, violence is necessary.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 04, 2017, 03:50:11 am
From an evening walk.


Weird. I like weird.

Rob C
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on July 04, 2017, 06:59:12 am

Weird. I like weird.

Rob C

Thanks Rob. More weirdness from the same walk:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 04, 2017, 08:00:25 am
Ah, it's rolling again. here is a fragment...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 04, 2017, 08:51:41 am
Ah, it's rolling again. here is a fragment...


I see Saul's brollies everywhere, even in places where there are none.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 05, 2017, 03:39:45 am
Ha ha... here's another...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 05, 2017, 07:55:21 am
Ha ha... here's another...


You've defeated me. I can't find any brolly, real or imaginary!

But boy, did you miss focus and frame: your subject is way off to the left!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 05, 2017, 10:17:23 am
Ha ha... here's another...
It's a winner by a nose!   ;)
Title: March of the Mushrroms
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 05, 2017, 10:30:08 am
In my front yard yesterday.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: HSakols on July 05, 2017, 10:49:11 am
Eric,
Nice fairy ring!  At one time, I studied to be a mycologist.  Sure was fun tromping through the woods looking for mushrooms.
Title: Re: March of the Mushrroms
Post by: Rob C on July 05, 2017, 11:30:32 am
In my front yard yesterday.


I need a rest: before I enlarged it I thought was looking at the grass at the back of the old school bike shed.

Funny what sticks in the mind...

;-)

Rob C
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 07, 2017, 05:36:33 pm
So, they are opening up the canals, including some brand spanking new tilting bridges right in the busiest traffic route of course. Somebody decided on a daring "alien" design or something along that theme, unfortunately they manage to completely negate any aesthetics with ..., well..., traffic necessities?

I probably going to call it "Iconic Sky" or "Hallmark View" or something similar.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 07, 2017, 05:43:40 pm
So, they are opening up the canals, including some brand spanking new tilting bridges right in the busiest traffic route of course. Somebody decided on a daring "alien" design or something along that theme, unfortunately they manage to completely negate any aesthetics with ..., well..., traffic necessities?

I probably going to call it "Iconic Sky" or "Hallmark View" or something similar.

A Russian oil well?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 07, 2017, 05:47:49 pm
A slightly more flattering angle. Maybe move to the lower left a little more for a better look at the design. However, this may not fit the frontal viewing theme of the project, and it is less of a comment if we're trying to make the bridge look prettier than it really is in daily commute.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 07, 2017, 06:08:27 pm
After the bridge we're slowly nearing city centre. Of course, this isn't exactly Tokyo, Paris, or New York so we make do with this "brilliant" architectural masterpiece. I'm calling it "After the Crossing" and definitely plan to find out the reason behind the crosses.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 07, 2017, 08:09:26 pm
From the side view, the bridge looks as if the design was inspired by those "drinking bird" toys.

Where is this monument of esthetic grandeur?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 08, 2017, 04:02:35 am
After the bridge we're slowly nearing city centre. Of course, this isn't exactly Tokyo, Paris, or New York so we make do with this "brilliant" architectural masterpiece. I'm calling it "After the Crossing" and definitely plan to find out the reason behind the crosses.

Oscar, where's the problem? It's obviously a hospital.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 08, 2017, 05:17:21 am
Oscar, where's the problem? It's obviously a hospital.

Rob

No, definitely not a hospital, but since every other building in our town is a home for the elderly (usually catering towards a specific disability), it may be service flats for 65+ with possibly some kind of christian heritage. Apartments are up for purchase, not rental, so it is more-or-less open market real estate.

I suppose if you manage to sell your apartment in Mallorca, and fancy a gray and depressing locale to better suit your overall mood, you could consider relocation. ;-) ;-) ;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 08, 2017, 09:18:32 am
No, definitely not a hospital, but since every other building in our town is a home for the elderly (usually catering towards a specific disability), it may be service flats for 65+ with possibly some kind of christian heritage. Apartments are up for purchase, not rental, so it is more-or-less open market real estate.

I suppose if you manage to sell your apartment in Mallorca, and fancy a gray and depressing locale to better suit your overall mood, you could consider relocation. ;-) ;-) ;-)

Hi Oscar,

I'm reconsidering selling; the more I see on tv and hear from family, the more it strikes me that the UK is in a slow suicide move that began well before Brexit, but Brexit was, nonetheless, the signing of the self-execution warrant... I sit here and watch the European tv news reports where the various European countries are now competing for the huge London financial markets that will cease to be operable once we have left.

And some of the people seem happy that a handful of other people will either move abroad to follow the money, or just retire... envy and hatred are often rolled into the same little cigarette, and as with cigarettes, that would do you no harm until you light the damned things. I suppose that until we leave there is hope, but which party will be honest enought to declare we need to think again?

Oh well.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 08, 2017, 04:24:13 pm
I'm reconsidering selling…

Provided you can make it work financially, I'd support your reconsidering. After my lovely visit to Hawai'i's Big Island last year, part of me wants to find a comfy condo or small house there and then just spend my days snapping and my evenings strumming in relative isolation.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on July 08, 2017, 09:01:59 pm
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/2972740-orig_1_orig.jpg)

Rob

Well done! +1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 09, 2017, 09:07:01 am
From the side view, the bridge looks as if the design was inspired by those "drinking bird" toys.

Where is this monument of esthetic grandeur?

We used to call 'em dilly dally ducks, I think. They were always yellow.

However, as they were yellow, perhaps they are being confused with the conjurors who came aboard the ships in the Suez Canal and did their tricks with tiny chicks under cups. The conjurors weren't yellow - the chicks were. That was in '53; I can't see it allowed to happen in this day and age, sadly enough. Bang! No chicks, no kids watching and no conjuror either, though the ships would probably survive and be good as new after a good scrub.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 09, 2017, 09:08:42 am
Well done! +1


Thanks, Bob, there's always some human hope, even in concrete.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 09, 2017, 11:43:51 am
From the side view, the bridge looks as if the design was inspired by those "drinking bird" toys.

Where is this monument of esthetic grandeur?

I was standing here (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Het+Kanaal+247,+9402+AH+Assen,+Nederland/@52.9992364,6.5712078,18z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x47c8250484a8ebc3:0x8ce657216b081242)
The bridge is to the left, the crosses on the other side.

I was standing with my back turned to the local college which gave me another epiphany. Let me look up that snapshot...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 09, 2017, 12:14:14 pm
So in Assen, not Amsterdam, which is the only part of Netherlands that I have visited.
I hope this depravity doesn't spread to the rest of the country.

But well worth photographing.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 09, 2017, 12:54:38 pm
So this was at the back of me and i immediately thought that if this is where we provide our collegelevel education it is no wonder we churn out robots or "corporate prisoners" so to speak...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 09, 2017, 05:27:03 pm
Whay are there no bars on the windows?   :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 09, 2017, 05:51:23 pm
Whay are there no bars on the windows?   :D

Ha, because they aren't even big enough to crawl thru...
(snapped at normal eye-level, so an average length person probably reaches between the first and second row of windows).

Maybe cool picture:
at the ground floor we situate students front to back in a row all along the wall, all equally dressed in suit and tie with a briefcase. Then from one of the top windows we hang a rope of tied together white sheets blowing in the wind.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 10, 2017, 08:49:20 am
So this was at the back of me and i immediately thought that if this is where we provide our collegelevel education it is no wonder we churn out robots or "corporate prisoners" so to speak...


Image makes me think first of white picket fences and, from there, onwards towards velvet.

Corporate prisoners are actually the ones that will survive; the system needs 'em but not the free spirits who find themselves equally at home in the drawer labelled Misfits. The danger comes when that one's too close to the rubbish can.

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 11, 2017, 02:36:11 pm
Fooling around with the high contrast mono mode on the little wx350. Combined with spotmetering it even allows a bit of control over exposure. This image i found interesting since it shows that little information is needed to still convey an object (and corresponding atmosphere) given that we only see a label and a reflection.

It also triggered me to shoot another series of images of colorful fruit and vegies on a black background, where the background is later processed to near absolute black in post.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 11, 2017, 03:21:34 pm
An example of the colorful fruits and vegies against a black background. The trick of course is to get a natural transition between the object and the background. Obviously, with postprocessing this isn't a real problem except there is a very fine line where the subtleties of transitioning to black will turn out weird.

I think it works in this version, let me look up another image where it didn't quite work out as I wanted.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 11, 2017, 03:30:06 pm
Of course, the multiple jpg compressions to get to this lo-res version will not help either, but I believe that I didn't quite get it right here. Even though the information is all there (meaning there is actual color where there is objects), it doesn't quite have that subtle "deep shadow" feel that I think should be possible given the relative saturation of the objects.

Images where stacks of multiple shots to ensure there would at least be adequate bitdepth, though not HDR bracketed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 12, 2017, 04:41:03 am
Airport shot...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 12, 2017, 08:28:49 am
Airport shot...

And there I was, expecting a majestic monorail with multiple bellows...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 12, 2017, 09:31:43 am
It has swing, tilt, shift, rise and fall. Needs a lens board.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 12, 2017, 10:03:17 am
It has swing, tilt, shift, rise and fall. Needs a lens board.

That's what you get if you don't buy from a registered dealership: non-working bait to greater expenditure. And nobody mentioned a lens yet!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 12, 2017, 10:25:23 am
It has swing, tilt, shift, rise and fall. Needs a lens board.
+10!  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 13, 2017, 03:03:05 am
In Barcelonetta
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 13, 2017, 09:21:23 am
In Barcelonetta

Thanks for the memory jog: reminds me that I have an invitation to a gallery show this evening - five Cuban painters. The link/memory jog? The gallery is up on the first floor, and you enter via a bar/restauarnt, which is anything but convenient; but that's life: location, location, location.

However, rules don't aways apply in Mallorca. The woman who runs this place has a long gallery history within Pollensa, so I guess she probably knows what's what and, as ever, you have to go by what you can afford to rent.

It's 3pm right now, and the battery is on charge, a spare card beside the camera; however, the "do" starts at 8.30pm and I have no idea about the probable state of my enthusiasm by then. However, I guess my Cuban tenor sax friend will be there, so at the very least, somebody with whom to have a usually interesting chat.

Event's such as this always come accompanied with the angst of the missing mate. And emergency driver...

https://www.espaidart32.com/ARTISTAS_CUBANOS/COLECTIVA.html

A quick look, and you see at once why photography can never feel an equal to some of the other arts. Like or dislike the works, there's no disputing that self-expression is much stronger and better served this other way. Unfortunately for me. Maybe that's just my fifteen-year-old self coming back to the fore, looking for a fight with the older me. At least I can tell him to go back from whence he came, that I know better, that I'd never have been good enough to cut it with canvas - AFAIK.

Sometimes, it feels like reading a book from the back. My late mother - she's be a miracle if she were not late - used to do that with books; it drove me mad, but she enjoyed them just as much as ever I seemed to do. Folks, techniques.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 13, 2017, 09:43:18 am
A quick look, and you see at once why photography can never feel an equal to some of the other arts.

you have to go by what you can
 
Folks, techniques.


:)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 13, 2017, 09:48:06 am
:)

" "A quick look, and you see at once why photography can never feel an equal to some of the other arts.

you have to go by what you can
 
Folks, techniques."" ""


Editorial mayhem!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 13, 2017, 03:48:51 pm
On the beach. Always something of interest – sometimes beautiful, sometimes grisly. And a handheld pano of behind the beach. Not a good place to walk – full of ticks!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 14, 2017, 03:49:42 am
Two beautiful still lifes; marvellous colours.

Ticks: try going through my hedge or, if you enjoy walks, any Med maquis! If you have sheep or goats they have passengers, as will you of you brush past anything that grows.

Rob C
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 14, 2017, 08:39:39 pm
Two beautiful still lifes; marvellous colours.

Ticks: try going through my hedge or, if you enjoy walks, any Med maquis! If you have sheep or goats they have passengers, as will you of you brush past anything that grows.

Rob C

Thank-you, Rob. Ticks seem to be a growing problem here. A young friend of our granddaughter has just been diagnosed with Lyme disease from a black-legged/deer tick bite. Poor little guy has to undergo a 21-day course of antibiotics.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 15, 2017, 04:01:29 pm
Da Beat goes street, but just for some inner city stockphotography...
i.e. no fancy double messages or other ambiguity here, just uhmmm... photography from the gut, and my gut generally has little to contribute where reasonable intellect is concerned...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 15, 2017, 04:39:17 pm
Da Beat goes street, but just for some inner city stockphotography...
i.e. no fancy double messages or other ambiguity here, just uhmmm... photography from the gut, and my gut generally has little to contribute where reasonable intellect is concerned...


Tried cookery lessons?

I can only make a distinctly Rob C version of paella - I like it moist, more as per risotto, so even there I find it pretty difficult to conform... Well, okay, I do make soups and stews in winter, but all very low-intellect stuff and after my own simplified versions of Internet recipes I have found. None of it is fun.

So on second thoughts, stick with your gut and forget the intellect. Can you still make stock photos pay? Amazing.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on July 15, 2017, 05:18:30 pm
photography from the gut, and my gut generally has little to contribute where reasonable intellect is concerned...

Not a comment on the photo, Oscar, but your text reminded me of this.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 15, 2017, 05:33:54 pm
Not a comment on the photo, Oscar, but your text reminded me of this.

Ha, exactly! Euphemism it was. Now make sure Rob gets to see that...


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Farmer on July 16, 2017, 05:02:17 am
Just capturing a selfie.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 16, 2017, 05:20:52 am
Just capturing a selfie.

That's a good one. A spot-the-photographer-selfie-selfie. Great capture too.



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 16, 2017, 05:26:17 am
Nice one, Phil. So cool!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on July 16, 2017, 10:31:54 am
... hard on the edge to be kitsch, but why not ...  ;)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 16, 2017, 10:49:12 am
... the reason behind the crosses.

Refugee shelter? ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 16, 2017, 10:53:15 am
So this was at the back of me and i immediately thought that if this is where we provide our college level education it is no wonder we churn out robots or "corporate prisoners" so to speak...

Horrifyingly beautiful. Agree with the "prisoners" metaphor.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 16, 2017, 03:13:10 pm
How times have changed:

(https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19990378_10155508377826505_3469698679498636190_n.jpg?oh=1c533a6d71a12406eb5d3a8b94056b99&oe=59FB4767)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 16, 2017, 03:26:29 pm
How times have changed:

Haha, reminds me of those Chinglish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinglish) signs in China...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 17, 2017, 04:44:27 am
Exercise in repetition and contrast
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 17, 2017, 06:22:58 am
Exercise in repetition and contrast

Cherchez la femme. As ever: the best motivator in the box.

In fashionista lexicon: lean and hungry look with soupçon of athlete.

I believe that in Leica rangefinder mythology, the additional space beyond the covered area would have offered a slight framing advantage though, of course, I understand perfectly well that you'd then have lost the magical "just in the nick of time" aspect of the drama. Had you centred her, then it would have looked contrived. Had you actually been using a hand-held long lens on that mythical Red Dotted rangefinder machine, you might have missed the target completely and ventured into the territory of the Art of the Almost.

Note: this is NOT critique; this is art appreciatiion at a very advanced level.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on July 17, 2017, 09:05:37 am
An old friend.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 17, 2017, 10:13:00 am
A fine shot, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 17, 2017, 10:52:30 am
Had you centred her, then it would have looked contrived.

It was in fact serendipity. I was looking at the patterns made by the two men as they drifted together and apart and their arms overlapped, the woman was a surprise when I looked at the result. So indeed aiming a little more to the right would have been better, but chance already gave me rather a lot. I shan't complain then.

In this one, I've really no idea what was going on with the finger:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 17, 2017, 01:11:27 pm
In this one, I've really no idea what was going on with the finger:
She's counting steps, because her pedometer broke???
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 18, 2017, 04:27:43 am
Another from the series which I rather like, despite the blown highlights. I took another, but the woman in the hat caught on and was scowling. Désolé Madame, je regrette que vous en ayez souffert...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 18, 2017, 08:39:38 am
Another from the series which I rather like, despite the blown highlights. I took another, but the woman in the hat caught on and was scowling. Désolé Madame, je regrette que vous en ayez souffert...
This one is excellent.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 20, 2017, 01:33:57 pm
Porthole.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 20, 2017, 04:43:59 pm
I think you weren't really looking at the car.
Nice.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 21, 2017, 09:20:18 am
Gotta say, "skin tones" like that were more (much!) difficult to get with film. Digital has made some things easier and others not really.

I often get the urge to be able to use my hands to shade in edges, skies or many other things than have to do it via the more mechanical/rigid use of masking off bits and so on.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Farmer on July 22, 2017, 06:10:16 am
Fluid Construction.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 22, 2017, 06:02:02 pm
It's been a poor year for my daylily plants. I think the cool weather we had in May (cooler on average than in April) suppressed their urge to create blooms. But these two showed up this morning.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 24, 2017, 03:47:56 am
There was tango dancing alongside the river last night. While I was circling, a woman arrived and slipped on her dancing shoes...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 24, 2017, 03:51:29 am
Fluid Construction.

What is that? It looks suspiciously like a grinding burr, but one doesn't usually glue them together...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Farmer on July 24, 2017, 04:18:23 am
What is that? It looks suspiciously like a grinding burr, but one doesn't usually glue them together...

It's hot glass being worked at sea on MV Solstice somewhere in the South Pacific :-)

Basically, the orange bit it hot glass that is being wound onto an existing large piece of glass that has glass rods melted onto it around the side.  These rods are multi coloured and once the item is blown and spun it all creates a particular pattern.

Attached is close to it being finished (unprocessed record shot only - the "standing" shadow reflection in the middle of the piece is me taking the shot with the 70-200).  We bought it at auction on the ship (along with another piece) to raise money for scholarships for more gaffers to get training.  The Corning Museum Hot Glass show on the ships is amazing!

http://www.cmog.org/video/hot-glass-show-celebrity-solstice
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 24, 2017, 05:31:06 am
There was tango dancing alongside the river last night. While I was circling, a woman arrived and slipped on her dancing shoes...

Yeah, I sympathise with her; I'm quite clumsy too... was she badly hurt?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 24, 2017, 10:25:35 am
So maybe I should have gone to the restaurant across the street?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 24, 2017, 12:37:37 pm
So maybe I should have gone to the restaurant across the street?

Absolutely: you even got a snap of HC-B!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on July 24, 2017, 04:03:19 pm
 :-[
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on July 25, 2017, 03:21:04 am
:-[

Did they eat your tripod? Weird, carbon fibre rich milk if that happened  ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 25, 2017, 09:19:33 am
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3120-bw-web_orig.jpg)

Rob

Positioning yourself is key in this image, no?

I'm beginning to understand your fascination with mannequins now, Rob. It perhaps is a representation of yourself being frozen in time...

=;-\
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Post by: GrahamBy on July 25, 2017, 12:18:25 pm
Another shot from the tango by the river... this woman appeared to have mastered her shoes.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 25, 2017, 12:55:35 pm
Another shot from the tango by the river... this woman appeared to have mastered her shoes.


But not her bra' straps! I won't think any more deeply than that, but she does look a little self-satisfied.

Must be the tango. Not Paris, I presume?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 25, 2017, 03:29:34 pm
No, still down in the provinces. There is something charming about an under-employed bra strap...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 25, 2017, 05:24:42 pm
No, still down in the provinces. There is something charming about an under-employed bra strap...

There is something entirely charming about the garment. Period. Well a pretty one, that is; you know, amour not armour.

I once had a trophy one pinned to my bedroom wall. Had a party one night, and it got stolen. No, not the wall. You really shouldn't tust your "friends" when you're a teenager, especially when they get drunk. I soon stopped having parties. I used to be a quick learner. Didn't need books for that.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 26, 2017, 05:52:42 am
More from the provinces, evening by the river, young men under the bridge.

(With a moderately sharp shadow)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 26, 2017, 07:44:51 am
Positioning yourself is key in this image, no?

I'm beginning to understand your fascination with mannequins now, Rob. It perhaps is a representation of yourself being frozen in time...

=;-\

Well not exactly, but similar in that my only real photographic high is working with beautiful girls, of which I ended up doing quite a lot.

In fact, I'm currently working on a project that seeks to explain - at least to myself - what happens when your life changes and the former securities no longer are available; it really does leave you out on some sort of deserted isle where hope exists in counting the coconuts.

I suppose some solace comes from the suspension of doubt when one is working on the images and doing one's damndest to displace them from the mundane places that one finds them - if one gets lucky, then the illusion becomes strong enough to drive the camera outside to continue the hunt another day.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 27, 2017, 04:43:23 pm
Out walking in my fav local park yesterday afternoon, seeing & snapping.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 27, 2017, 05:27:40 pm
This is sort of an alternate version of the previous pic. Instead of trying multiple approaches with the same subject I often like to try the same approach with multiple subjects.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 28, 2017, 03:21:10 pm
Yet another version of the same approach, this time with Hosta blooms in my back garden.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 28, 2017, 03:26:44 pm
Finally, something less busy & more graphical. More my usual thing. At my friend Susan's apartment/condo/bunker.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on July 28, 2017, 07:33:49 pm
My botanical contribution.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 29, 2017, 05:45:53 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 30, 2017, 08:56:12 am
Last night, Vieux Lyon, first note...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 30, 2017, 10:17:32 am
Last night, Vieux Lyon, first note...

Great shot with a lovely expression caught!

(Any shoe problems?)

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on July 30, 2017, 01:12:46 pm
Finally, something less busy & more graphical. More my usual thing. At my friend Susan's apartment/condo/bunker.  :)

-Dave-

+1
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Post by: BobDavid on July 30, 2017, 01:13:51 pm
Last night, Vieux Lyon, first note...

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on July 30, 2017, 02:27:11 pm
Great shot with a lovely expression caught!

+2
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Post by: Chairman Bill on July 30, 2017, 02:27:44 pm
Field of dreams

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 30, 2017, 04:58:54 pm
Field of dreams
Oh yes :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on July 30, 2017, 04:59:43 pm
One for Elliot
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 31, 2017, 11:00:41 am
Fishing from early morning to last light. Both taken during a brief family getaway to Prince Edward Island.

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Post by: muntanela on July 31, 2017, 12:58:20 pm
Linaria alpina (L.) Mill. (Pedruna Valley)
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Post by: Telecaster on July 31, 2017, 09:12:15 pm
Last "botanical" 16:9 pic. I heard the Rolling Stones' Dead Flowers while out drinking coffee this afternoon.  ;D  New lens test: f/1.4 at ~70cm.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 31, 2017, 11:15:43 pm
Head in the clouds - portrait of a friend:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 01, 2017, 05:33:54 pm
Practising scales

In tune!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 01, 2017, 05:39:53 pm
More flora, from this afternoon's park walk, but it's at 3:2!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 01, 2017, 08:43:52 pm
Head in the clouds - portrait of a friend:

Nice one.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 01, 2017, 08:44:22 pm
Another nice one.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 02, 2017, 09:03:34 am
Head in the clouds - portrait of a friend:

 :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 02, 2017, 09:04:44 am
Practising scales:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 03, 2017, 09:01:51 pm
more Brocken phenomenon
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on August 04, 2017, 01:58:32 am
If you're in New Zealand, this is probably NSFW   :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on August 04, 2017, 03:46:20 pm
One and all.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-wzQgdMs/0/56c5139d/M/June%2014-%202017%20RBG%20107%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 04, 2017, 04:04:22 pm
more Brocken phenomenon

Cool! #1 has an X Files vibe.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 06, 2017, 09:44:00 pm
Thick evening clouds: the norm here over the past few weeks. The planes, though, are always part of the norm.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 06, 2017, 09:48:50 pm
But our clouds aren't always gloomy.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 07, 2017, 12:05:40 am
Cool! #1 has an X Files vibe.  :D

-Dave-

Thanks, second time I get to see one. First was an out of the world experience as I had no clue why it's happening. Now that I now it's just cool.  :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 07, 2017, 12:43:12 am
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on August 07, 2017, 05:44:42 am
This priest kept an eye locked on me and my camera! I must have looked suspicious.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on August 07, 2017, 07:43:38 am
This priest kept an eye locked on me and my camera! I must have looked suspicious.

Great shot!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 07, 2017, 08:11:09 am
This priest kept an eye locked on me and my camera! I must have looked suspicious.

That's a strong image. Well done.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on August 07, 2017, 09:21:23 am
This priest kept an eye locked on me and my camera! I must have looked suspicious.

Really good shot and great composition. (I think that the priest was fed up with reading the breviary  and was just curious about what you were doing...)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 07, 2017, 08:24:47 pm
This priest kept an eye locked on me and my camera! I must have looked suspicious.

Terrific.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 08, 2017, 06:46:38 am
Me too :-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on August 08, 2017, 08:57:48 am
Thanks guys… Sometimes, I'm lucky  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 08, 2017, 11:23:24 am
For something different... a bit of nature shot from my Kitchen window
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 08, 2017, 05:25:36 pm
For something different... a bit of nature shot from my Kitchen window

Looks like one of the little sh*ts who were was trying to get into my attic through an air vent this past spring.  ;D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 08, 2017, 05:31:00 pm
Wanted to see what I'd get by pointing my IR rig at the sun (in prep for possible pic-taking during the upcoming solar eclipse). "Lotsa flare" seems to be the correct answer. Forgot to set custom white balance too, but I've left it "wrong."

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on August 08, 2017, 06:50:12 pm
Wanted to see what I'd get by pointing my IR rig at the sun (in prep for possible pic-taking during the upcoming solar eclipse). "Lotsa flare" seems to be the correct answer. Forgot to set custom white balance too, but I've left it "wrong."

-Dave-

Try it with a neutral density filter (or two) 10-20 stops.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 09, 2017, 02:48:56 am
Try it with a neutral density filter (or two) 10-20 stops.

I don't think the wavelengths I'm using here (700nm+) even notice ND filters. Anyway I can reduce the exposure, and the flare/ghosting, beyond what's shown in the pic just by stopping down the lens and speeding up the shutter. And framing differently too.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 09, 2017, 07:13:41 am
Then there was this guy, who hung about staring in my bedroom window...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 09, 2017, 02:17:18 pm
Here's one of the little sh*ts in question (see above), from ~30 minutes ago. She/he seems fascinated by my camera, or maybe by reflections in the lens, and often comes over to investigate. 35mm lens (46mm "equivalent") at ~1m.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 09, 2017, 08:37:56 pm
From Bolton Abbey, UK.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 10, 2017, 02:24:20 am
Some "human landscape" ...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on August 10, 2017, 02:57:35 am
Some "human landscape" ...

Interesting, was gerade geschah?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 10, 2017, 03:03:18 am
Interesting, was gerade geschah?
Every Sunday in summer:
https://www.mauerpark.info/culture/mauerparkkaraoke/?lang=en (https://www.mauerpark.info/culture/mauerparkkaraoke/?lang=en)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on August 10, 2017, 03:20:28 am
Deutschland, deine Sänger... ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 10, 2017, 04:07:55 pm
There are wonders in nature.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Farmer on August 10, 2017, 06:42:41 pm
There are wonders in nature.

Wow.  How good is that?  Wonderful.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 10, 2017, 08:21:23 pm
Excellent! (Once I enlarged it.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 11, 2017, 08:57:55 am
Taken on an evening walk a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on August 11, 2017, 10:29:11 am
I was looking through some shots from last November and found one I'd pretty much missed at the time
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 11, 2017, 11:02:19 am
Taken on an evening walk a couple of days ago.


Nice pìcture; little red rooster?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 11, 2017, 11:17:15 am

Nice pìcture; little red rooster?

;-)

Rob

Medium size monochrome rooster :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on August 11, 2017, 11:31:36 am
I was looking through some shots from last November and found one I'd pretty much missed at the time

Is it the same path you photographed with snow? You could try to shoot the same frame in the same spot through seasons and years, the location is worthy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 11, 2017, 12:54:22 pm
I was looking through some shots from last November and found one I'd pretty much missed at the time

It's a 'quiet' image but very evocative - I feel like I'me there.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 12, 2017, 07:46:49 am
Another shot from my evening walk. ( An obfuscated landscape ).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 12, 2017, 02:22:44 pm
Go forth and explore.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 12, 2017, 07:40:55 pm
Three more from my evening walk.

No more.

I promise.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 12, 2017, 08:48:05 pm
Rainy day
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 13, 2017, 04:42:47 am
Stéphane, reading
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 13, 2017, 04:44:55 am
And Aurélie...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 13, 2017, 05:28:59 pm
Almost looks like a bloody composite, but is a SOOC jpg. Cropping too tight is a result of lack of lcd brightness.

I noticed daylight duration is shortening quickly again, we hardly had a real summer this year, and the season is withering away...



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 13, 2017, 05:31:16 pm
Also still fooling around with the HC monochrome mode. Don't worry, I don't drink the stuff...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on August 14, 2017, 05:41:10 am
Three more from my evening walk.

No more.

I promise.

Why "no more"? They are very enjoyable!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 14, 2017, 07:58:17 am
Why "no more"? They are very enjoyable!
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 14, 2017, 05:03:59 pm
Mrs. Cardinal (I think: IR-sensitive camera + uncoated lens = gender uncertainty).

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 15, 2017, 12:50:33 pm
For some reason I'm not really aware, myself, I keep coming back to this one from a recent not very productive weekend.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4385/36446077911_bb0567caa0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XwBFcD)no landscape (https://flic.kr/p/XwBFcD) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 15, 2017, 05:09:50 pm
Salt mine
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on August 15, 2017, 10:15:48 pm
Salt mine

Very cool. Did you see "Spartacus was here" etched into the walls anywhere?  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 16, 2017, 03:02:48 am
Salt mine
Wow! What a photo-opportunity. Can one see more anywhere?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 16, 2017, 03:35:05 pm
Very cool. Did you see "Spartacus was here" etched into the walls anywhere?  ;)

Nope, but they had these  ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 16, 2017, 03:39:15 pm
Wow! What a photo-opportunity. Can one see more anywhere?

This is in Romania, there are still multiple salt mines open to public.
See attached to get a sense of scale
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 16, 2017, 03:50:19 pm
Mrs. Cardinal (I think: IR-sensitive camera + uncoated lens = gender uncertainty).

-Dave-

That's pretty prevalent today and has little to do with lenses, but more with chance, compass and perspective. Deep inside me, I suspect that Central Casting has a hand in it somewhere too.

I caught a news clip today where they were making Fender's Stratocasters in Mexico! Trump that!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on August 16, 2017, 04:02:09 pm
One summer evening
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on August 16, 2017, 04:56:52 pm
Another summer's evening
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 16, 2017, 09:14:40 pm
That's pretty prevalent today and has little to do with lenses, but more with chance, compass and perspective. Deep inside me, I suspect that Central Casting has a hand in it somewhere too.

I caught a news clip today where they were making Fender's Stratocasters in Mexico! Trump that!

;-)

Rob

They should make them in Japan.

In the very early 1980's Fender started getting versions of all their famous models made in Japan under the 'Squier' name: I was working in a musical instrument shop at the time & I thought they they were better quality than the American versions. They were also cheaper. I had a Squier Telecaster: lovely guitar.

Unfortunately I'm a bloody awful guitarist.
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Post by: Telecaster on August 17, 2017, 02:07:14 am
In the very early 1980's Fender started getting versions of all their famous models made in Japan under the 'Squier' name: I was working in a musical instrument shop at the time & I thought they they were better quality than the American versions. They were also cheaper. I had a Squier Telecaster: lovely guitar.

My general experience with early/mid '80s Japanese electric guitars is that they knock the socks off most US-made stuff of the same vintage. The nicest Strat I've ever owned, or played for that matter, is a first-year (1982) Fender Japan "62 reissue" model. White, now faded to a light parchment, with a mint green pickguard. Sold my "real" Strat after getting it. Playing it is like wearing a soft & comfy form-fitting shirt. I have a black '83 Squier Tele too. It's a different flavor of Tele than my namesake one but just as well made and capable.

Fender's factory in Ensenada does very good work too. Fender hampers overall quality by using cheaper hardware and electronics on their Mexican-made models (which is to say, they're mostly but not entirely made in Mexico) but the Mexican work holds its own.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 17, 2017, 02:48:28 am
That's pretty prevalent today and has little to do with lenses, but more with chance, compass and perspective. Deep inside me, I suspect that Central Casting has a hand in it somewhere too.

;D  I thought someone might catch that!

Quote
I caught a news clip today where they were making Fender's Stratocasters in Mexico! Trump that!

Yep, some of 'em anyway. Fender has had a factory in Ensenada for some years now. Back in the day Leo Fender insisted on hiring Latinas to wind guitar pickups and wire up guitars & amps. He found they tended to have the right combination of skill and patience necessary to do the job to his demanding standards. In Fender collectors' circles these ladies are well regarded and folks know some of their names. My old Telecaster was wired by Gloria Fuentes, and the pickups in some other Fenders I own or once owned were wound by Abigail Ybarra. (I met Abby ~10 years ago at a guitar show. She's still living.) Both often signed their work.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on August 17, 2017, 03:44:41 am
Crocus vernus (L.) Hill subsp. albiflorus (Kit.) Ces. (Sperella Valley, Western Grosina Valley, April)

Ranunculus kuepferi Greuter & Burdet (Pian del lago, Western Grosina Valley, June).

Zygaena (Zygaena) transalpina (Esper, 1780) (Pian del lago, Western Grosina Valley, July)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 17, 2017, 11:50:21 am
That's an awesome butterfly
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 17, 2017, 04:16:06 pm
mosquitoes
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 17, 2017, 05:22:15 pm
;D  I thought someone might catch that!

Yep, some of 'em anyway. Fender has had a factory in Ensenada for some years now. Back in the day Leo Fender insisted on hiring Latinas to wind guitar pickups and wire up guitars & amps. He found they tended to have the right combination of skill and patience necessary to do the job to his demanding standards. In Fender collectors' circles these ladies are well regarded and folks know some of their names. My old Telecaster was wired by Gloria Fuentes, and the pickups in some other Fenders I own or once owned were wound by Abigail Ybarra. (I met Abby ~10 years ago at a guitar show. She's still living.) Both often signed their work.

-Dave-



Dave,

One of the points made by a Mexican official was that, simply, in the US of A they can't legally use certain sprays to varnish, but in Mexico they can. US pickups are hand-made (he said) but Mexican ones bulk produced; both work just as well.

Chinese Nikkors?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on August 17, 2017, 07:37:07 pm
That's an awesome butterfly

It was motionless, even with the frontal lens at less than 7 cm, maybe it was paralyzed by the low temperature.
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Post by: graeme on August 17, 2017, 08:11:57 pm
;D  I thought someone might catch that!

Yep, some of 'em anyway. Fender has had a factory in Ensenada for some years now. Back in the day Leo Fender insisted on hiring Latinas to wind guitar pickups and wire up guitars & amps. He found they tended to have the right combination of skill and patience necessary to do the job to his demanding standards. In Fender collectors' circles these ladies are well regarded and folks know some of their names. My old Telecaster was wired by Gloria Fuentes, and the pickups in some other Fenders I own or once owned were wound by Abigail Ybarra. (I met Abby ~10 years ago at a guitar show. She's still living.) Both often signed their work.

-Dave-

When I realised I was a bloody awful guitarist I bought a Vox Continental Organ.

There was a humungous amount of wiring inside which had labels attached to it with the names of the girls who had assembled the thing.

It sounded fantastic.

Unfortunately I'm a bloody awful keyboard player.

( Sorry Rob, this is drifting - I'll post a photo soon ).
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Post by: Telecaster on August 18, 2017, 12:15:21 am
One of the points made by a Mexican official was that, simply, in the US of A they can't legally use certain sprays to varnish, but in Mexico they can. US pickups are hand-made (he said) but Mexican ones bulk produced; both work just as well.

Chinese Nikkors?

Yep, in Mexico there are fewer restrictions on how you can use nitrocellulose lacquer. It's toxic stuff, though modern formulations are less so than those of the mid 20th century. Ironically most Mexican-made Fenders have polyurethane finishes anyway (as have most US-made Fenders since the 1970s). In the guitar world Nitro vs. Poly is one of those hot-button fanboy topics that causes people to discombobulate.  ::)  My own experience tells me it isn't important.

The thing about hand-made pickups is mostly marketing BS: only Fender's custom shop (the real high-end guitars) has individual winders hand-guiding pickup wire into a machine, and even then the machine is doing most of the work. Even Abby Ybarra used a winding machine back in the '60s. The art is in the guiding technique: controlling wire tension around the pickup's coil (or dual coils with hum-canceling designs). As a fellow guitarist I know says, pickups are magic and making them is wizardry.

Doesn't Nikon have a plant in Vietnam too?

I should photograph an Abby pickup!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 18, 2017, 03:09:30 pm
Yep, in Mexico there are fewer restrictions on how you can use nitrocellulose lacquer. It's toxic stuff, though modern formulations are less so than those of the mid 20th century. Ironically most Mexican-made Fenders have polyurethane finishes anyway (as have most US-made Fenders since the 1970s). In the guitar world Nitro vs. Poly is one of those hot-button fanboy topics that causes people to discombobulate.  ::)  My own experience tells me it isn't important.

The thing about hand-made pickups is mostly marketing BS: only Fender's custom shop (the real high-end guitars) has individual winders hand-guiding pickup wire into a machine, and even then the machine is doing most of the work. Even Abby Ybarra used a winding machine back in the '60s. The art is in the guiding technique: controlling wire tension around the pickup's coil (or dual coils with hum-canceling designs). As a fellow guitarist I know says, pickups are magic and making them is wizardry.

Doesn't Nikon have a plant in Vietnam too?

I should photograph an Abby pickup!

-Dave-


I should have gone straight back in and refused to come out again until they gave me some musical talent. I would rather be an accomplished musician than a photographer. Music can easily bring me goosebumps and piccys almost never. Of course, one has to be partial to goosebumps.

Graeme, enjoy the drifting whilst the current lasts. It's what retirement (or close-cousin unemployment) is all about. The more you practise now the better to enjoy the real thing.

;-(

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 19, 2017, 12:52:57 am
I'm into the Wing It approach to life in general. Or you could call it the Be Like Water approach if you have a fondness for Taoist philosophy. Among other things it probably accounts for both my early retirement and off-topic tendencies.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 19, 2017, 04:52:27 am
I'm into the Wing It approach to life in general. Or you could call it the Be Like Water approach if you have a fondness for Taoist philosophy. Among other things it probably accounts for both my early retirement and off-topic tendencies.  :D

-Dave-


I didn't know you'd hung up the daily handcuffs (as in work, I hasten to add - or did that correction just make it sound worse?) but yes, I do think that allowing the tide to do the pulling makes sense. After all, it will always be stronger than us, and I have come to accept the general truth behind that saying that by thirty-five or forty we are all the person we shall ever be. That accomplished, I realised the rest of it wasn't going to get a whole lot better, so I gave up beating my brain and soul out, and by forty-four took my happy wife and myself out of the local treadmill and into another country where the Sun actually shone. (But that brought me another set of problems now manifest.)

I'm sure we didn't enter into the wheels of another such mill, but life certainly did change dramatically. Most of that was positive but not all. Eventually I did come to miss the actual photographic part of the photographic life, but the time we had together was our own at last and no longer dependent upon the whims of some Friday evening agency call telling me how they just had to have the prints on their desk first thing Monday. So long weekend. I actually do remember one such incident when I gave prints as requested on the Monday, was back in the guy's studio on Wednesday, and my unopened packet of prints still lay on the desk... True love grows from such events.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 19, 2017, 04:09:38 pm
Rob, you beat me into "post-work" life by a year.  :)  I stopped as soon as I could afford to, and have been busy ever since with a combination of what I choose to do and what chooses me. The most meaningful thing has been taking care of my dad during the last year (2010) of his life, but there have been plenty of other rich experiences too. It's nice to wake up in the morning with "What cool new thing(s) can I see/do/learn today?!" in my head.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 19, 2017, 05:06:32 pm
Hi Dave,

I couldn't really afford it, though I thought maybe I could, but we did keep on with a few calendars over the years, but obviously, all the local and short jobs ended pretty damned quickly with the decisive, one-way air tickets! So a staggered commercial diet of caviar (and some stock) for a few more years... but Ann's cooking was even better! And she loved the life here and one of her best days was Sunday when she'd drag me out of bed at 7.30 so we could get to the market and park. Any later and it meant a walk carrying a week's supply of veggies etc. far too far. Then we bought a wheelie thing, and now it gets a very rare outing for carrying the Gitzo. No contest.

Wouldn't have missed it for the world. I hope she'll be waiting for me in the next (with a smile!).

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 19, 2017, 08:20:24 pm
Wouldn't have missed it for the world. I hope she'll be waiting for me in the next (with a smile!).

;-)

Hope so too.  :D

To bring it back around here's an alternate take of Mrs. Cardinal.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on August 20, 2017, 05:00:35 am
Can I just say that my Japanese-made Yamaha SG700s plays like a dream? I'll post piccies :-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 20, 2017, 05:50:07 am
Can I just say that my Japanese-made Yamaha SG700s plays like a dream? I'll post piccies :-)

That looks similar to this:

https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Yamaha_SG2000

We had one in the shop for a while, it was a superb guitar. Weighed a f****g ton.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 20, 2017, 06:02:19 am
This was my first electric guitar:

https://reverb.com/item/11625-vintage-epiphone-et-270-early-1970-s-kurt-cobain-style-japan

Got it in 1979 & sold it in 1983 or 4 to a very cool looking African guy who was crew from a ship docked on the Tyne. I'm sure he did the guitar more justice than I ever could.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on August 20, 2017, 06:59:46 am
That looks similar to this:

https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Yamaha_SG2000

We had one in the shop for a while, it was a superb guitar. Weighed a f****g ton.

The article is wrong though - Santana originally played a Yamaha SG95 (see Moonflower), and Yamaha made changes based on his feedback, changes that went into the later SG models, including the 2000. And yes, it's quite heavy, but then like the Les Paul, it's a solid mahogany body. Mine looks pretty much like the one in the article, but less bling; many of the differences were down to things like whether or not it had gold-covered bits & pieces.

A nice thing about my SG700s is that the tone controls can be pressed in/out to switch between single coil or humbuckers, which opens up a wider range of tones. I can get pretty much everything from Telecaster through to Les Paul, which is nice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 20, 2017, 03:35:05 pm
Well, since we're still on guitars…   :)  I have an Ibanez AR-300, their late '70s–early '80s take on a double-cut Les Paul type. Similar in appearance to Yamaha's SG series. I previously owned an AR-105, much the same guitar but not as fancy. The 300 has a coil splitter as well as a parallel option in humbucking mode. Made in 1982, which seems to have been a primo year for Japanese electrics in general. Fantastic Maxon-designed "Super 58" pickups. Weighs a bit over 9 lbs, the heaviest guitar I currently own. (The 105 was 10+ lbs., which is mainly why I eventually sold it.) Overall I prefer light guitars but this one is a gem. I've attached a mediocre iPhone pic.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 20, 2017, 08:25:32 pm
I had a play on one of these once:

http://www.terrym.co.uk/1website/page17.htm

Very sexy.

I wish I'd bought it.  ::)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 21, 2017, 02:42:08 am
Still experimenting with long time exposures. Slowly progressing, still a lot of failed frames ... here's one of the better ones. I realise when exposing for several minutes and light is changing fast, it's a lot about guessing when the amount of light might be sufficient ...

This one is rather blurred due to strong wind. Vey old fashioned mood from that.


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 21, 2017, 03:34:27 am
I had a play on one of these once:

http://www.terrym.co.uk/1website/page17.htm

Very sexy.

I wish I'd bought it.  ::)


You guys are now kicking a non-player when he's down!

Just toys for wannabe dentists!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 21, 2017, 05:00:06 am

You guys are now kicking a non-player when he's down!

Just toys for wannabe dentists!

;-)

Rob

If you ever heard me play you'd recognise a fellow none player.  ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 21, 2017, 06:52:31 am
Back from a week in a chalet on top of a hill in the Ardèche, safely far from the internet :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 21, 2017, 08:12:16 am
safely far from the internet :)

And guitars.

Nice photos.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 22, 2017, 05:18:46 pm
Gordon Lewis has a nice & short piece at The Online Photographer about photographers & musicians and the potential "link between sight and sound" as he puts it:

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_index.html

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 23, 2017, 03:20:53 pm
Back from a week in a chalet on top of a hill in the Ardèche, safely far from the internet :)

Promising knees! Or did you sneak up behind the maid? Please don't ruin a flight of imagination.

;)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 23, 2017, 03:44:04 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 23, 2017, 06:25:58 pm
Along with cooler than normal temps, most days this summer the sky has looked a lot like this. Not a bad tradeoff, I guess.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 24, 2017, 08:16:41 am
One from last sunday ... tried something light.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 24, 2017, 09:13:38 am
One from last sunday ... tried something light.
It suggests a Japanese painting. Nice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 24, 2017, 07:43:15 pm
It suggests a Japanese painting. Nice.

+1. Very good.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 24, 2017, 07:45:44 pm
A couple from yesterday's walk to work.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 24, 2017, 07:56:32 pm
I like those, Graeme, especially the first.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 26, 2017, 07:19:58 am
I like those, Graeme, especially the first.

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 26, 2017, 07:21:38 am
"Doors of perception"
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 26, 2017, 07:34:17 am
They are reassessing watermanagement in our locale and want to allow more natural flowing water forming creeks etc... This should bring back the corresponding original flora and fauna. These damsels are now ubiquitous.

Unfortunately, that green is Sony's interpretation of the real world, not anywhere near what it looks like in my relatively trained colormemory. One day i'll just go full time b/w and never look back...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 26, 2017, 02:22:59 pm
Nihil nove sub sole... except my foot and me being bored.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 26, 2017, 03:30:00 pm
They are reassessing watermanagement in our locale and want to allow more natural flowing water forming creeks etc... This should bring back the corresponding original flora and fauna. These damsels are now ubiquitous.

Unfortunately, that green is Sony's interpretation of the real world, not anywhere near what it looks like in my relatively trained colormemory. One day i'll just go full time b/w and never look back...

You probably won't regret it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 26, 2017, 04:16:36 pm
My favorite local nature park has adopted a more hands-off approach over the past decade, which has led to less manicured trails and IMO a better overall vibe. But this has also resulted in mildly comedic sights as in the attached pic: the park bench equivalent of a "room without a view."  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 26, 2017, 05:28:03 pm
My favorite local nature park has adopted a more hands-off approach over the past decade, which has led to less manicured trails and IMO a better overall vibe. But this has also resulted in mildly comedic sights as in the attached pic: the park bench equivalent of a "room without a view."  :)

-Dave-
Why, that log has such a graceful curve, I could sit and meditate on it for hours!  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on August 26, 2017, 08:31:00 pm
"zenactly" !
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Farmer on August 26, 2017, 10:58:38 pm
Nihil nove sub sole... except my foot and me being bored.

Glad you were bored, then :-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on August 26, 2017, 11:19:06 pm
My favorite local nature park has adopted a more hands-off approach over the past decade, which has led to less manicured trails and IMO a better overall vibe. But this has also resulted in mildly comedic sights as in the attached pic: the park bench equivalent of a "room without a view."  :)

-Dave-

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice
Post by: Telecaster on August 27, 2017, 11:04:29 pm
"Look closely," as my dad often urged. From this afternoon's walk on the aptly named Deer Run Trail.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 28, 2017, 04:20:50 am
My favorite local nature park has adopted a more hands-off approach over the past decade, which has led to less manicured trails and IMO a better overall vibe.

Yes, they also apply this approach to forrestmanagement here which results in a more natural vibe indeed. Leaving dead trees and branches saw the return of small animals which in turn gets more bird of prey etc. Although to be honest i also can't get myself away from the impression that it is additionally a matter of budget or lack thereof.


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 28, 2017, 04:57:42 am
Yes, they also apply this approach to forrestmanagement here which results in a more natural vibe indeed. Leaving dead trees and branches saw the return of small animals which in turn gets more bird of prey etc. Although to be honest i also can't get myself away from the impression that it is additionally a matter of budget or lack thereof.



That's what living to the soundtrack of noisy politicians forces you to understand.

I would have loved to have led a more innocent life too, where my tooth fairy always wore a blue tutu, and Mr and Mrs Leica-Hasselblad brought me a brand new toy with which to start each new year; where my garage contained a '59 Coupe de Ville and a 300SL with gull-wings, and a pretty little Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint sat awating my wife and me at the front door.

Oh - an afterthough: good health accompanied us both forever! (I love putting the most important last - a sort of imagined poetic justice, in a perverted sense of same).

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 28, 2017, 07:01:06 am
Oh - an afterthough: good health accompanied us both forever! (I love putting the most important last - a sort of imagined poetic justice, in a perverted sense of same).

Gotta love the irony...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on August 28, 2017, 07:11:42 am
One from last sunday ... tried something light.

Very appealing.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 28, 2017, 09:49:48 am
Very appealing.

Jeremy
Yes!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 28, 2017, 11:24:49 am
Spotted in Heptonstall, UK on Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 28, 2017, 11:57:12 am
Spotted in Heptonstall, UK on Sunday afternoon.

Yes!  :D :D :D Well seen and captured.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 28, 2017, 12:20:35 pm
You see how important great DOF? My standard f2 would have failed miserably. Only Photoshop could have saved the day. Maybe St Ansel knew best after all.

Good seeing, but what in blazes were you doing on that side of La Manche? I'd thought you trained by now to enjoy great cuisine!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 28, 2017, 04:36:43 pm
Spotted in Heptonstall, UK on Sunday afternoon.

Hah, the "Defender" looks like Thomas the Tank Engine. Another sheep in wolves' clothing?

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 28, 2017, 04:58:20 pm
Although to be honest i also can't get myself away from the impression that it is additionally a matter of budget or lack thereof.

I imagine that's often the case. This particular park is privately owned, though mostly publicly funded (to get in you have to pay a per-day entrance fee or buy a yearly pass), and is well staffed with a thought-out maintenance plan. The move to the current approach began in the early 2000s after the negative effects of the previous approach started compounding. Way too many deer, predator bird species scared off by too-close-to-nesting-areas human access, too many (invasive) carp in the water at the expense of other fish, not enough ground cover for reptiles and smaller mammals. It's noticeably better now, though there are still issues to be dealt with.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 29, 2017, 04:57:48 am
Something I happened to notice...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on August 29, 2017, 08:30:59 am
Something I happened to notice...

Nice lion… probably the owner!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on August 29, 2017, 09:34:46 am
Signs of autumn:
Vaccinium myrtillus L. at Läch (Lake) de la Basa, Pedruna Valley, Western Grosina Valley;
Luzula alpinopilosa (Chaix) Breistr. at Läch Turchin, Eastern Grosina Valley.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on August 29, 2017, 11:05:23 am
Signs of autumn:

Nice shots but autumn comes too soon…
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 30, 2017, 06:20:42 am
Nice lion… probably the owner!

It was taken in Lyon :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 30, 2017, 05:15:31 pm
Some stuff I saw during this afternoon's trail walk.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on August 31, 2017, 12:07:48 am
autumn comes too soon…

And I lost three weeks of August lying on a sofa, monitoring the first signs of my physical dissolution... Now plants have neither flowers nor fruits anymore.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on August 31, 2017, 03:56:24 am
Another one from last Sunday.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on August 31, 2017, 05:06:35 am
And I lost three weeks of August lying on a sofa, monitoring the first signs of my physical dissolution... Now plants have neither flowers nor fruits anymore.
I'm sorry for you… :(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 31, 2017, 06:09:31 am
And I lost three weeks of August lying on a sofa, monitoring the first signs of my physical dissolution... Now plants have neither flowers nor fruits anymore.


Lucky you: my time doing that has almost ended as I see the process to its completion!

But half of the problem is the goddam sofa itself. During the past four or five days of sciatica - the longest attack yet - I have made myself super comfortable on sofa or at computer chair, forgotten the present reality until, bored with the faux, I try to get up at which moment sofa and/or chair scream at me not to move an inch, or pay for it in spades!

Saul Leiter made a big thing out of person disintegration; every day I feel a greater bond.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 31, 2017, 08:53:18 am
Sunday morning at St George's
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 31, 2017, 08:53:52 am
Another one from last Sunday.
Like :) :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on August 31, 2017, 08:55:19 am
Just in case you think I've gone all colourful... café at the Place Carnot market on a Friday evening.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 31, 2017, 11:49:00 am
Just in case you think I've gone all colourful... café at the Place Carnot market on a Friday evening.


Nice; do I recognize the long-haired girl in the foreground?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 31, 2017, 12:58:12 pm
Cheers!!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 31, 2017, 02:01:04 pm
Just flip through my pictures of 2017 so far. Not satisfied.



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 31, 2017, 04:24:03 pm
And I lost three weeks of August lying on a sofa, monitoring the first signs of my physical dissolution... Now plants have neither flowers nor fruits anymore.

I've spent the last six weeks or so unable to play guitar due to a chronic right wrist injury. I somehow strained a tendon or ligament in my sleep, causing muscle tissue to swell up, causing some nerve impingement. It gets mostly better, then I do something stupid like lifting a heavy object with my right hand/arm and it starts all over.  :-\  At least I can operate a camera without discomfort…

"Boy, you're gonna carry that weight a long time." (Attached pic.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 31, 2017, 05:37:31 pm
Just flip through my pictures of 2017 so far. Not satisfied.


Blame it on Balzac's coffee: you've got to take them face-on, close up; with a 28mm on FF. Think William Klein. Think what Capa said about distance.

;-)

Rob

P.S. I've only done it once - don't expect streams of bravery from me!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 31, 2017, 05:54:46 pm
I've spent the last six weeks or so unable to play guitar due to a chronic right wrist injury. I somehow strained a tendon or ligament in my sleep, causing muscle tissue to swell up, causing some nerve impingement. It gets mostly better, then I do something stupid like lifting a heavy object with my right hand/arm and it starts all over.  :-\  At least I can operate a camera without discomfort…

"Boy, you're gonna carry that weight a long time." (Attached pic.)

-Dave-

You have my sympathy; my sciatica has given me a great excuse stopped me from taking pictures outwith the house; I suppose I shall have to overcome that, because if I don't quite soon, I'll forget what little PS stuff I learned. However, combined with my eye problems, photography has become a bit easier. Yes, easier, because the last few shots I made were with one or the other of my only two af optics. I don't use the others much, not only beause they are manual - and probably nicer than the af ones - but because I'm into wide open (or thereabouts) pix these past few months and trying to do that wih poor vision ain't too successful at the best of times - well, without a split-image screen, that it.

OT, but I've spent a few evenings watching back numbers of the French cop drama: Engrenages (Spirals). It's quite a raw series, and if it represents Paris, then glad to be living in a hick town on an island in the Med!  However, it confirmed a growing suspicion I have held for a while: the French can't speak French. The only people who speak French properly are British school marms and fellow students of the day. We understood one another perfectly. It must be something to do with the Common Market.

Thank goodness for subtitles.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 01, 2017, 02:11:32 am
Nice; do I recognize the long-haired girl in the foreground?

It's possible, so if you do send me her number :-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 01, 2017, 05:28:43 am
It's possible, so if you do send me her number :-)


Oh well, then neither of us knows her.

;-(

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 01, 2017, 05:47:10 am
Don't know her, either :(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on September 01, 2017, 08:11:04 am
Don't know her, either :(

I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on September 01, 2017, 08:12:20 am
A weird one from Sunday.
Title: Birds (with feathers)
Post by: brianrybolt on September 01, 2017, 09:22:39 am
As I was walking along the seafront.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 01, 2017, 12:57:55 pm
I feel your pain.


Graeme, you can most certainly pencil in mine, too.

She looks to be perfect lens fodder, the raw material for a plethora of dreams in camera...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on September 01, 2017, 01:00:03 pm
The weatherman says it's autumn, and the harvest is certainly in ...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on September 01, 2017, 01:43:25 pm
The weatherman says it's autumn, and the harvest is certainly in ...

Excellent scene and processing. What was harvested?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 01, 2017, 04:45:04 pm
OT, but I've spent a few evenings watching back numbers of the French cop drama: Engrenages (Spirals). It's quite a raw series, and if it represents Paris, then glad to be living in a hick town on an island in the Med!  However, it confirmed a growing suspicion I have held for a while: the French can't speak French. The only people who speak French properly are British school marms and fellow students of the day. We understood one another perfectly. It must be something to do with the Common Market.

You should pay a visit to Quebec: my French is poor but more than non-existent, yet what the Québécois speak is unrecognizable to me.  :)

One of my all-time favorite films is Les Ripoux, from 1984 (title sanitized in English as "My New Partner"), a dark cop comedy starring the fab (and prolific) hounddog-faced Philippe Noiret. Ripoux —>Pourris. I still whistle the film's signature melodic phrase at least a couple times per week.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on September 01, 2017, 06:33:28 pm
Excellent scene and processing. What was harvested?

Wheat
Title: Re: Birds (with feathers)
Post by: John R on September 01, 2017, 08:19:44 pm
As I was walking along the seafront.
Superb Brian. Good seeing.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 02, 2017, 03:38:09 am
Don't know her, either :(


Perfect Leiter mindset; told you he never let's go once you let him in.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 03, 2017, 07:40:12 pm
From this afternoon's trail walk: a threesome.

(In the '80s I worked with a young woman from Paraguay named Leidy.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 03, 2017, 07:45:17 pm
A lady named Leidy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 04, 2017, 05:47:26 am
You should pay a visit to Quebec: my French is poor but more than non-existent, yet what the Québécois speak is unrecognizable to me.  :)
Here you go, a guide to Quebecois by a Romanian-Canadian who lives in Paris:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYm83H5TOMM
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 04, 2017, 05:48:56 am
A gate. Inside there is the Balukian Institute, which gives money to charitable causes and occasionally hosts exhibitions...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 04, 2017, 08:23:48 am
From this afternoon's trail walk: a threesome.

(In the '80s I worked with a young woman from Paraguay named Leidy.)

-Dave-


Strange treesome; lucky Mario - one hopes!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 04, 2017, 02:47:14 pm
Here you go, a guide to Quebecois by a Romanian-Canadian who lives in Paris:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYm83H5TOMM

Funny. My French is good enough for about one word in five, but I think I understood a bit of the joke.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 04, 2017, 02:56:50 pm
Another one from yesterday's walk. Features trees but is not a treesome.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 04, 2017, 03:43:21 pm
Another one from yesterday's walk. Features trees but is not a treesome.  :D

-Dave-

That's quite lovely; great shapes and colour.

Look, if you pretend that the motif on the right's a dandelion, then you've got your Fats Domino triplets! Artistic licence, you know.
(Just until you can pick your geetar again, of course.)

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 04, 2017, 04:01:56 pm
Funny. My French is good enough for about one word in five, but I think I understood a bit of the joke.

Jeremy

There was a joke?

All I can say is that the girl should listen to Cajun music... 'twould be nice to see how she and it get along. It definitely wouldn't be mistaken for anything other than a French-based sound - I think. As the Louisiana ones came down from L'Acadie in the first place...

She's got a happy wee face, and I love that backlighting to bits.

Understand it? Only the caption!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 04, 2017, 05:06:50 pm
Look, if you pretend that the motif on the right's a dandelion, then you've got your Fats Domino triplets! Artistic licence, you know.
(Just until you can pick your geetar again, of course.)

Hehe, I did have a dandelion (gone to seed) in mind.  :)

Might try some brief guitaring tonight. Always been fond of triplet strums: Pete Townshend, donchaknow.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on September 04, 2017, 06:31:56 pm
That's quite lovely; great shapes and colour.


+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on September 05, 2017, 07:32:16 am
Got up early, just to see I'm still too late ...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on September 05, 2017, 07:48:23 am
Got up early, just to see I'm still too late ...

I think you timed it perfectly - that's dreamy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on September 05, 2017, 08:02:20 am
I think you timed it perfectly - that's dreamy.
Well, thanks, this shot is ok, it's just not what I was after ... I thought I would come into denser mist, and dawn/before sunrise. But the sun was up and too warm for mist, already. I totally underestimated the amount of traffic at that time, normally I don't drive that early ... lost 30 Minutes on the road. Was a nice walk never the less, few more shots on flickr, see below, if anyone's interested. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 05, 2017, 08:26:42 am
Narcissism rampant.

(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3133_orig.jpg)

Rob
Ah, now we see you clearly, Rob.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 05, 2017, 09:29:14 am
Ah, now we see you clearly, Rob.

Eric

You may well be right:

http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=120444.0

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 05, 2017, 01:25:30 pm
Rob,

I think you are right about the "Big Selfie" idea.
I remember Minor White commenting that every photo is a portrait of the photographer.
For me, I think the urge to photograph comes partly from the notion that my photographs look more interesting than I do.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 05, 2017, 04:32:14 pm
Another pic from my trail walk a couple days ago. Lately I've taken lotsa photos of park benches (sans lichen), algae, flowing streams and eroded rock. What kind of selfie is that?  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 05, 2017, 07:58:01 pm
Here's my selfie for Rob.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 06, 2017, 03:10:40 am
Another pic from my trail walk a couple days ago. Lately I've taken lotsa photos of park benches (sans lichen), algae, flowing streams and eroded rock. What kind of selfie is that?  :D

-Dave-

Apart from being a nice study of colours and texture, the selfie element is obvious: frustration at the injury that prevents the flow of music. Embodied in the image is the difficulty of flow: the minute but, collectively, devastating hinderances to where you want to be. The topography screams difficulty. That's what drew you.

That'll be $750, thank you very much.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 06, 2017, 03:14:47 am
Here's my selfie for Rob.

Eric


How did you know I have a Samsung Smart tv? Perhaps it's due to the old problem of all great minds thinking alike - despite what Slobodan maintains. So, a double portrait, then. (Twofie?)

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on September 06, 2017, 03:32:20 am
What about this selfie!?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 06, 2017, 05:01:09 am
Two things:

1. I, too, would love a Mustang rather than a T-shirt;

2. as thumbnail, the girl's underlayer of pale clothing reminds me of the early days of Playboy, where it was sexy - I think? - for models to show areas of untanned skin where the bikini would have been. I think it made them seem more, well, naked? Or should that be nude, if spoken of within art circles? Is this an art circle?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 06, 2017, 06:08:46 am
Note that you also get a profile shot of the woman in the guy's glasses... :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 06, 2017, 06:11:36 am
Now this is a funny one. Somehow it ticks lots of boxes for a dramatic street photo, there is a little tip of the hat to Fan Ho, and when I put it on 500px it got lots of love.

But it leaves me a little cold. Maybe if the woman with the pale underwear was doing the pedaling ?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: graeme on September 06, 2017, 07:26:47 am
Now this is a funny one. Somehow it ticks lots of boxes for a dramatic street photo, there is a little tip of the hat to Fan Ho, and when I put it on 500px it got lots of love.

But it leaves me a little cold. Maybe if the woman with the pale underwear was doing the pedaling ?

I know what you mean: I think the trouble is that the guy looks like he's dressed up to pose in a commercial photoshoot ( maybe he was on his way to one ).

In every other way I really like it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 06, 2017, 09:39:51 am
A minor key Blues Bro' does nobody any harm...

Rather like it; without any Chinese justification at all.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 06, 2017, 03:30:01 pm
Apart from being a nice study of colours and texture, the selfie element is obvious: frustration at the injury that prevents the flow of music. Embodied in the image is the difficulty of flow: the minute but, collectively, devastating hinderances to where you want to be. The topography screams difficulty. That's what drew you.

That'll be $750, thank you very much.

Nah, taking your advice (before you gave it) I just set the timer, tossed the camera in the air and let it take the photo. Self removal!  ;)

Re-tweaked my gimpy hand yesterday, while lifting a guitar case.  :'(

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 06, 2017, 04:26:03 pm
Nah, taking your advice (before you gave it) I just set the timer, tossed the camera in the air and let it take the photo. Self removal!  ;)

Re-tweaked my gimpy hand yesterday, while lifting a guitar case.  :'(

-Dave-

David, I think you need help. Hire an assistant.

Regarding the photographic aspect: should the assistant throw the working camera into the air, would that be plagiarism? Can you sue a camera?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 06, 2017, 04:55:34 pm
The upside to having a "summer" with a near-constant influx of cool-ish northern air (in contrast to the roasting other parts of the US are receiving) is gettting to enjoy cloudscapes like this multiple times per week. Took this via iPhone outside my neighborhood coffee emporium earlier this afternoon.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 07, 2017, 09:19:11 am
Substitute fashion models. Very nice, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 07, 2017, 10:18:32 am
Substitute fashion models. Very nice, Rob.


Thanks, Eric; closer than you might seriously think.

In my working days it was all about showing whatever was being worn, and that usually meant frontal lighting. I would love the opportunity of using some of the same people in similar backlit situations as those two sunflowers found themselves occupying. Okay, the same people but as they were back in the 60s and 70s. After that it was all calendars, and that isn't something I really crave anymore. Well, unless somebody offers me a nice packet of money, that is. Ever the commercial whore! Can whores live in hope? But for sure, granted a return to the days of yore, fashion would rule. Having said which, my mind returns to some of the fabric horrors that I did have to shoot... maybe no sweeping statements of desire after all, then.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 07, 2017, 10:44:00 am
Yellow and green
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on September 07, 2017, 11:31:51 am
Indeed, that's really green and yellow!
I like them both.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 07, 2017, 04:26:01 pm
Another iPhone pic from yesterday, from inside my car (through the window) en route to dinner. The Hellmouth descends!  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on September 08, 2017, 04:40:27 am
Another iPhone pic from yesterday, from inside my car (through the window) en route to dinner. The Hellmouth descends!  ;)

-Dave-

Perfect timing, the aircraft is escaping the storm...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 08, 2017, 10:42:26 am
Nice flower! (Genesis Mk 2)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 08, 2017, 05:54:54 pm
I took a more dynamic version of this last evening, in softer light after a brief downpour, but the resulting pic was sabotaged by a camera hiccup (my bad…low battery). Ended up with a monochrome JPEG, losing all the chromatic subtlety of the scene, and a corrupted RAW.  :-\  Anyway this one will do for now. Some early autumn color in my locale, likely due to the October-like weather we've been getting for the past two weeks.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 09, 2017, 05:57:38 am
Something minimalist...

(and cheap to print  ;D )
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 09, 2017, 03:47:49 pm
Nice one, Graham!  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 10, 2017, 03:33:49 pm
There is a long tradition of trompe-l’œil murals in Lyon...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 11, 2017, 04:08:48 am
Yesterday I took my teleconverter out to play. These are from a 200x1.4x1.5 (crop factor). If for nothing else than to violate the "how to do street" advice that some people like to give :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 11, 2017, 04:09:17 am
There is a long tradition of trompe-l’œil murals in Lyon...

And to think how realistic those bikes look!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 11, 2017, 04:17:51 am
Yesterday I took my teleconverter out to play. These are from a 200x1.4x1.5 (crop factor). If for nothing else than to violate the "how to do street" advice that some people like to give :)

Squatter with Bird is a great combination of timing (good fortune?) and eye and focal length! You've almost given me enough inspiration to go out with a camera today myself. But as I'm going out to have lunch, perhaps that will be exertion enough for one day... I did do a washing this morning before starting breakfast; I suppose that the onerous on'n'off duty of watching the things dry may preclude my doing anything much else.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 11, 2017, 04:29:21 am
Squatter with Bird is a great combination of timing (good fortune?) and eye and focal length! You've almost given me enough inspiration to go out with a camera today myself. But as I'm going out to have lunch, perhaps that will be exertion enough for one day... I did do a washing this morning before starting breakfast; I suppose that the onerous on'n'off duty of watching the things dry may preclude my doing anything much else.

;-)

I command you to go out today because we've seen enough flower DOF faux pas from you.

The squatter image is a cool shot, though works better in thumbnail. Another DOF faux pas-er?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 11, 2017, 04:48:46 am
Oh, and btw Rob, i want to see an actual human being in your shot, because Russ tells us a picture with a human being is infinitely more interesting than one without... (That's "human being" not "clothes")
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 11, 2017, 06:06:45 am
Squatter with Bird is a great combination of timing (good fortune?)

Yup. Was taking another shot (which was boring), then saw the pigeon, re-focused as best I could and pressed the button. Had some awareness of the group of people walking up behind, but their alignment and the crouch was pure luck.

I had been thinking again about the problem of the brain guessing what should be there... but I think there is another side, that you can react without seeing things. Ie something in my head maybe had time to recognise that something was happening NOW and I should press the button, even though there wasn't time to render it as part of my visual perception. There seems to be an implausibly high proportion of photos where there is something going on that I wasn't aware of when taking it... and some days it's there in lots of photos, and other days... nothing.

But luck does funny things, too... :-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 11, 2017, 07:08:40 am
Yup. Was taking another shot (which was boring), then saw the pigeon, re-focused as best I could and pressed the button. Had some awareness of the group of people walking up behind, but their alignment and the crouch was pure luck.

I had been thinking again about the problem of the brain guessing what should be there... but I think there is another side, that you can react without seeing things. Ie something in my head maybe had time to recognise that something was happening NOW and I should press the button, even though there wasn't time to render it as part of my visual perception. There seems to be an implausibly high proportion of photos where there is something going on that I wasn't aware of when taking it... and some days it's there in lots of photos, and other days... nothing.

But luck does funny things, too... :-)

Yes, I find the same thing happens with the 'windows' things that fascinate me. I discover all manner of alternatives within the shot once I have it on the monitor. I have even made mistakes that, immediately that I see them, make me think hey, why didn't I think of that?

No wonder free photography becomes so amazingly addictive, even if I am doing a little cold turkey right now.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 11, 2017, 04:08:11 pm
Squatter with Bird is a great combination of timing (good fortune?) and eye and focal length!

Yep!

I skipped my usual "walk in the park with camera" today…some lingering indigestion due to a dodgy dinner burrito last night. But on the plus side I took my #2 Telecaster for a spin Saturday night, with no negative hand/wrist consequences.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on September 11, 2017, 08:11:40 pm
Campanula scheuchzeri Vill. and Pirla fall.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 12, 2017, 03:44:09 am
Yep!

I skipped my usual "walk in the park with camera" today…some lingering indigestion due to a dodgy dinner burrito last night. But on the plus side I took my #2 Telecaster for a spin Saturday night, with no negative hand/wrist consequences.  :D

-Dave-

You see the therapeutical benefits from those flying musical "brothers"?

Did you know that Keef and Gram Parsons were good mates?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 12, 2017, 04:16:40 am
In defence of house-bound photography (if you want a pun in French, I'm calling it "littoral" :) )

(Dave, doing what I like in moderation often seems to be a good cure for the consequences of doing it with immoderation).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 12, 2017, 05:39:18 am
In defence of house-bound photography (if you want a pun in French, I'm calling it "littoral" :) )

(Dave, doing what I like in moderation often seems to be a good cure for the consequences of doing it with immoderation).

Beware! Eric may sue!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 12, 2017, 09:16:17 am
Beware! Eric may sue!

;-)

Rob
No way! I am a fan, as you know, of bedroom photos.   ;)

Nice one, Graham.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 12, 2017, 07:40:10 pm
You see the therapeutical benefits from those flying musical "brothers"?

Did you know that Keef and Gram Parsons were good mates?

Indeed! And "Bad Breakfast Burritos" is something of a meme these days among touring musicians, with the days of luxurious excess now in the rearview mirror. I guess the *Brothers were on it.  :)

-Dave-

*I should say the Other Brothers, as the Allmans were and are "the Brothers."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 12, 2017, 07:44:02 pm
So I took a moderate walk today  :)  and found that Graham's bird has seemingly taken an immoderate journey.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 12, 2017, 08:21:09 pm
So I took a moderate walk today  :)  and found that Graham's bird has seemingly taken an immoderate journey.

-Dave-
... after which it announced, "Nevermore!"    ;)

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 13, 2017, 05:45:13 am
So I took a moderate walk today  :)  and found that Graham's bird has seemingly taken an immoderate journey.


Burnt black by the speed...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 13, 2017, 08:14:06 am
And so quickly, it only had time for half of a kiss!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 13, 2017, 04:37:45 pm
Burnt black by the speed...

When you go at high flow…

Or is it *When you blow at high dough (http://www.hipmuseum.com/blow.html)…

-Dave-

*A Tragic reference for sure
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 14, 2017, 04:10:44 pm
With all the iPhone stuff now on the marketing merry-go-round, here's a phone pic from a couple days ago. Taken just outside my fav caffeine emporium.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on September 16, 2017, 03:11:13 pm
Still experimenting with long time exposure. This time I was lucky with the direction of the wind and how clouds moved. Unfortunately the sun was gone just after that shot, very big cloud in the west at sunset ...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 16, 2017, 10:50:04 pm
Still experimenting with long time exposure.

I like it. Catch some sunset color along with the cloud motion and you'll have a poppin' pic!  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on September 17, 2017, 04:51:04 am
Thanks, it's not too far away so I'll be able to go there once in a while, probably. The problem is, you cannot alter your point of view a lot, because it's all swamp around there. So my position is more or less fixed, which makes it harder to react to changing conditions ... not easy to find a accessible subject ...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 17, 2017, 06:26:55 am
...here's a phone pic from a couple days ago.


Like :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 17, 2017, 06:27:33 am
Self "portrait"
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 17, 2017, 10:15:39 am
Self "portrait"

A homage to Arno Rafael Minkkinen?

https://goo.gl/images/Qav6uy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 17, 2017, 05:19:51 pm
Post-hoc, anything is possible :)

Something seen today... makes sense...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 17, 2017, 05:22:44 pm
A homage to Arno Rafael Minkkinen?

https://goo.gl/images/Qav6uy

Ha, it gets strange. I saw one of his images a few days ago... the name didn't mean anything to me until I was clicking through your link:
(http://www.thisiscolossal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/arno-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 18, 2017, 03:19:43 am
Ha, it gets strange. I saw one of his images a few days ago... the name didn't mean anything to me until I was clicking through your link:

Inspired by Escher (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/4/49/Drawing_hands.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070427221756), perhaps?

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on September 18, 2017, 03:42:08 am
The Escher is so well known that I think it would be difficult to claim to not have been influenced by it!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on September 19, 2017, 05:12:15 am
Cellpic of a headache.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 19, 2017, 05:14:25 am
Cellpic of a headache.

I feel her pain.

Nice to see you back!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: fdisilvestro on September 19, 2017, 08:37:06 am
Make-up session

(http://www.frankdisilvestro.com.au/img/s6/v135/p2524377126-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 19, 2017, 11:32:53 am
Nice girl, Frank; envy you today!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 19, 2017, 09:04:30 pm
Channeling my inner BobDavid :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 19, 2017, 09:47:00 pm
The second is more BobDavidy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: fdisilvestro on September 20, 2017, 03:38:40 am
Nice girl, Frank; envy you today!

;-)

Rob

 8)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on September 20, 2017, 04:14:12 am
Channeling my inner BobDavid :)

Ha! Gas stations are oddly photogenic. ... I like them both.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on September 20, 2017, 04:36:47 am
The recliner is in decline, and it's blocking the door.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 20, 2017, 10:09:47 am
The recliner is in decline, and it's blocking the door.
I think it's making a political protest against the idea of opening that door.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 20, 2017, 10:25:21 am
I think it's making a political protest against the idea of opening that door.

It's detrimental to one's health to open the door during flight...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 20, 2017, 10:59:22 am
Eric, you can't have a political protest without a placard.

Unless, of course, you're having an abstract one.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 20, 2017, 12:08:43 pm
Eric, you can't have a political protest without a placard.

Unless, of course, you're having an abstract one.

;-)

Rob
All my placards are abstract!   :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 20, 2017, 04:30:35 pm
All my placards are abstract!   :D


Just like my rallies, then!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 20, 2017, 06:44:57 pm
a walk
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 20, 2017, 07:27:55 pm
I like, Armand. Especially the first two.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 20, 2017, 09:45:16 pm
I,liek, Armand. Especially the first two.

Thank you, I tried to make the best of the light.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 21, 2017, 08:38:44 pm
.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 21, 2017, 09:21:02 pm
.
Was this one inspired by my misspelling of "like" in my recent post?   ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on September 22, 2017, 02:28:09 am
  +.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on September 22, 2017, 02:29:03 am
File Error
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 22, 2017, 09:12:06 am
Errors often produce the most interesting results. I like it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on September 22, 2017, 10:13:09 am
.

I am very envious (TURP next thursday...).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 22, 2017, 01:46:22 pm
I am very envious (TURP next thursday...).
Good luck!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 22, 2017, 03:03:46 pm
old building
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 22, 2017, 05:24:37 pm
From today's trail walk: "Daddy Jess."

(BTW, today—first day of autumn—is tied with yesterday—last day of summer—for hottest day of the year (so far) in my locale. 91°F, which is a cooler-than-normal maximum yearly high temp. Mid/late September has been warmer than was mid/late August. This was also true of mid/late April compared with mid/late May. Bizarro!)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on September 23, 2017, 03:37:27 am
Good luck!

Thank you! (but also the bladder doesn't "push"...)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 23, 2017, 05:48:14 am
From today's trail walk: "Daddy Jess."

(BTW, today—first day of autumn—is tied with yesterday—last day of summer—for hottest day of the year (so far) in my locale. 91°F, which is a cooler-than-normal maximum yearly high temp. Mid/late September has been warmer than was mid/late August. This was also true of mid/late April compared with mid/late May. Bizarro!)

-Dave-


Fake news; political agenda designed to stop America being great again. (Many of us non-radical foreigners always thought it still was great - which just goes to show you!)

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 23, 2017, 01:05:13 pm
I am very envious (TURP next thursday...).

Best wishes. Mine, nearly 5 years ago, was dramatically beneficial and with no adverse effects.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 23, 2017, 04:01:13 pm
Fake news; political agenda designed to stop America being great again.

Ya mean Daddy Jess isn't real?!   ???  :-[

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 23, 2017, 04:10:20 pm
Ya mean Daddy Jess isn't real?!   ???  :-[

-Dave-

Can't swear about that either way, but Santa sure is: I inhabited him for two kids for several years and then my audience turned and mocked...

I took refuge in early nights after that. But I didn't sulk; I was brave about it.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on September 23, 2017, 07:27:04 pm
Best wishes. Mine, nearly 5 years ago, was dramatically beneficial and with no adverse effects.

Jeremy

Thank you Jeremy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 23, 2017, 10:27:28 pm
Can't swear about that either way, but Santa sure is: I inhabited him for two kids for several years and then my audience turned and mocked...

I took refuge in early nights after that. But I didn't sulk; I was brave about it.

My (coffee) drinking pal J used to be a Santa. During the holiday season he worked at malls and sometimes at parties in folks' homes. He had the flowing white hair & beard & general roly-poly-ness, which made him popular with kids 'cuz it was all legit. Then he got serious about keeping himself in decent health and lost a bunch of weight. Then his wife said, "You look ridiculous with your thin face and all that hair!" So snip-snip went the white stuff…and with it the Santa jobs.  ;D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 24, 2017, 03:38:03 pm
balance
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 24, 2017, 06:13:44 pm
Ah, I can dimly remember being able to rock-hop like that. It must have been some thirty or more years ago, alas.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on September 25, 2017, 02:50:14 am
Taken on the 1st day of Autumn
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Post by: Bruce Cox on September 25, 2017, 12:58:46 pm
There was a big bug on my car this September.
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Post by: Telecaster on September 25, 2017, 05:42:50 pm
On the subject of non-human creatures, I came across this chillax'd young fella during my afternoon trail walk.

[Edit: reprocessed the pic…got a little heavy-handed with the luminosity curve tool. Made it bigger too. And included a second pic in the same sequence.]

-Dave-
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Post by: 32BT on September 26, 2017, 01:23:53 pm
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3149_orig.jpg)

Rob

If i squint i see a desire to stop the inevitable...
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Post by: Rob C on September 26, 2017, 02:52:30 pm
"If i squint i see a desire to stop the inevitable..." - Oscar

Funny thing: that was shot one evening with nice cross-sunlight; these days, the very last thing that I desire is sunshine. I have a wish to work in "almost raining" weather: cloudy, requiring lots of exposure that means I can use my too-high native ISO settings cameras and be able to get slow shutter speeds. Yes, I do have a variable ND filter, but in strong light it still forces me to stop far too far down in order to get slow shutters; f2 @ 1/15th would be cute. And no, I don't want to be doing this at night. Worse, using the thing rotated too far means that the image will have visible faults - according to Hoya. If there are to be faults, I rather I author them myself!

Rob
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 26, 2017, 02:55:23 pm
If there are to be faults, I rather I author them myself!

My thoughts exactly. And I'm damn good at doing it, I like to think. Often (usually) entirely unintentionally.

Jeremy
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Post by: Rob C on September 26, 2017, 02:57:33 pm
My thoughts exactly. And I'm damn good at doing it, I like to think. Often (usually) entirely unintentionally.

Jeremy

That's the artist within! Can't control those mothers; they'll ruin you if you don't get really, really tough with 'em.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 26, 2017, 04:32:41 pm
That's the artist within! Can't control those mothers; they'll ruin you if you don't get really, really tough with 'em.
But often the faults are really the best photos. 
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Post by: Rob C on September 26, 2017, 05:33:44 pm
But often the faults are really the best photos.

Exactly!

That's why I stay with old cameras: I can use them with a free conscience, and make their output even more distressed by adding all sorts of rubbish to disguise the flaws of perfection!

As a filmo, you knew perfectly well the delights of Tri X or the Ilford alternative; as the ultra-fine stuff was already available in Pans X and F, there was no need to feel sad or ashamed about grain: one could actually celebrate it when it was there as invited guest! Everybody who counted knew it was a considered choice. How times changed, and with them this new craze for everything pristine and beautifully sterile!

The taste of freedom is very sweet.

Having said which, I'd still thank Santa for a working M9 with mended sensor...
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Post by: Telecaster on September 26, 2017, 10:15:56 pm
Not taken with an M9, though much of my pic taking this year has been. (Got it late last year from an acquaintance of a friend. The same guy who sold me his M8.2 in early 2014.) Un-mended sensor, no corrosion to date.

Anyway these two come from my little Panasonic and its spiffy 100–400mm zoom. There was a Moon/Saturn *conjunction tonight. The first is a single-capture view, at ~185mm, with Saturn no more than a fuzzy speck below and left of the Moon. The second is a composite of two pics taken at 400mm, with Saturn also up-res'd by 100% in post.

[Edit: I've added a second version of the composite image, with better adjusted black levels between the two source pics. On my TV the brighter background of the main (Moon) pic was annoyingly obvious.]

-Dave-

*Evidently this has some astrological significance. My interest, however, is merely æsthetical and geometrical.  ;D
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Post by: Rob C on September 27, 2017, 06:17:25 am
As a matter of passing interest - passing because it isn't going to result in a purchase - did you find that M-type cameras made you feel any different about your photography, or did it all end up as part of the usual GAS thing where after the first shoot with it, you found yourself right back in square #1?

My own interest is probably based on the fact that the last time I touched a working Leica (M3) was in '65 when I left my final employer. I have never owned Leica, knowing the rangefinder system wasn't really any use for my favourite portrait focal length (for 35mm fomats) - 135mm - and when I discovered the R6 it was very far behind Nikon in vital things such as full-frame viewing. But I was tempted for a while...

Rob
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Post by: 32BT on September 27, 2017, 10:15:31 am
As a matter of passing interest - passing because it isn't going to result in a purchase - did you find that M-type cameras made you feel any different about your photography, or did it all end up as part of the usual GAS thing where after the first shoot with it, you found yourself right back in square #1?

My own interest is probably based on the fact that the last time I touched a working Leica (M3) was in '65 when I left my final employer. I have never owned Leica, knowing the rangefinder system wasn't really any use for my favourite portrait focal length (for 35mm fomats) - 135mm - and when I discovered the R6 it was very far behind Nikon in vital things such as full-frame viewing. But I was tempted for a while...

Rob

Mike seems to think that Fuji is the new Leica: Lenses (http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/lenses/)

Scroll or read all the way down to where he writes about the term "Fujicrons"

I know you already looked at the Fuji, but Mike has some additional experience to share about actual use, and when he gives his okay on a lens, it's pretty much gospel as far as i'm concerned.
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Post by: Telecaster on September 27, 2017, 03:12:44 pm
As a matter of passing interest - passing because it isn't going to result in a purchase - did you find that M-type cameras made you feel any different about your photography, or did it all end up as part of the usual GAS thing where after the first shoot with it, you found yourself right back in square #1?

The first serious camera I learned how to use (c. 1970) was my dad's M2. Rangefinders are the type of camera I still feel most comfortable with. Doesn't have to be a Leica so long as I can focus accurately and relatively quickly with it. The first SLR I had was a Canon AE-1, which I bought with a 50/1.4 lens to take on my Middle East voyage 1983–85. After that I went back to the M2, adding a few Zeiss (Contax) RFs along the way. Around 2000 I got a used Contax Aria SLR and used that, with various lenses, along with the RFs 'til the Canon 10D came out in 2003. Nothing fancy lens-wise pre-digital: 28–135mm range, though I did (and do) have a Zeiss 21/4.5 for the Contax RFs.

In the digital era I've experimented with all kinds of stuff, including an Epson R-D1 RF, but this past year I've returned to the Leicas. Ms aren't everyone's cuppa: I think you either gel with 'em or you don't. To me everything about them is second nature. Simple controls, muscle memory. The results with the M8s and M9 are no more film-like than with any other sensor-based camera, but I really enjoy using them. With SLRs, and even EVF-equipped mirrorless stuff, I always feel the urge to use longer lenses, get more reach. With an RF even a 90mm lens feels long to me because its frame in the viewfinder is so small. Dunno if the pics I take are any "better" but I certainly enjoy the process of taking them more. And for me the process, the doing of it, is primary.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on September 28, 2017, 01:05:00 am
Taken on the 1st day of Autumn

I like this one a lot. Cool light and pleasing geometry.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on September 28, 2017, 03:48:59 am
The first serious camera I learned how to use (c. 1970) was my dad's M2. Rangefinders are the type of camera I still feel most comfortable with. Doesn't have to be a Leica so long as I can focus accurately and relatively quickly with it. The first SLR I had was a Canon AE-1, which I bought with a 50/1.4 lens to take on my Middle East voyage 1983–85. After that I went back to the M2, adding a few Zeiss (Contax) RFs along the way. Around 2000 I got a used Contax Aria SLR and used that, with various lenses, along with the RFs 'til the Canon 10D came out in 2003. Nothing fancy lens-wise pre-digital: 28–135mm range, though I did (and do) have a Zeiss 21/4.5 for the Contax RFs.

In the digital era I've experimented with all kinds of stuff, including an Epson R-D1 RF, but this past year I've returned to the Leicas. Ms aren't everyone's cuppa: I think you either gel with 'em or you don't. To me everything about them is second nature. Simple controls, muscle memory. The results with the M8s and M9 are no more film-like than with any other sensor-based camera, but I really enjoy using them. With SLRs, and even EVF-equipped mirrorless stuff, I always feel the urge to use longer lenses, get more reach. With an RF even a 90mm lens feels long to me because its frame in the viewfinder is so small. Dunno if the pics I take are any "better" but I certainly enjoy the process of taking them more. And for me the process, the doing of it, is primary.

-Dave-

Hi Dave,

Yes, I can see that if you more or less grew up with Leicas around then you'd naturally go there, too. Nice way to start your photography!

I mentioned finding a different look to work I printed from Leica wides, and I also found that trannies looked different from Leica. I once had to make some Cibachromes from some Leica fashion shots made, I was told, by John Swannell, erstwhile Bailey assistant. The colours were unlike my Nikon work.

http://www.modelpix.com/retroframes.html

Read the introduction, and have a smile at the man's quest for colour similarity! I think all of us have had searches for what may be a magic ingredient in another's work, but does it really exist? I suspect not; if anything, it's that person's overall technique and eye for what to photograph.

Rob

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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 28, 2017, 09:31:09 am
Good thing he is behind the bars.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 28, 2017, 09:34:42 am
... Anyway these two come from my little Panasonic and its spiffy 100–400mm zoom. There was a Moon/Saturn *conjunction tonight. The first is a single-capture view, at ~185mm, with Saturn no more than a fuzzy speck below and left of the Moon. The second is a composite of two pics taken at 400mm, with Saturn also up-res'd by 100% in post...

You can take such a sharp image of Saturn at 800mm (even if at 100%)? That wasn't a cutout of a magazine illustration of Saturn? If true, it is amazing what we can do today with cameras and lenses (and software).
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 28, 2017, 09:46:43 am
Been to a friend's al fresco concert (and witnessed the sky):
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Post by: degrub on September 28, 2017, 10:08:40 am
You can take such a sharp image of Saturn at 800mm (even if at 100%)? That wasn't a cutout of a magazine illustration of Saturn? If true, it is amazing what we can do today with cameras and lenses (and software).
The hard part is keeping the lens on target given the rotation of the earth and loss of resolving power from atmospheric distortion.
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Post by: GrahamBy on September 28, 2017, 10:52:19 am
Everybody who counted knew it was a considered choice. How times changed, and with them this new craze for everything pristine and beautifully sterile!


I think "craze" best describes the rush to use filters to smear fake grain over a clean image, or to rush back to use film because it's supposed more "artistic"... but we can disagree.

Yesterday I saw a quote from Ralf Gibson, who was admittedly flogging Leica's at the time: that the Monochrom (read: any good digital camera) allowed him to make a photo of anything he could see, and consequently he had no further interest in film.

It would be provoctive of me to suggest that a Leica Monochrom is an "old camera" in that it is built a generation behind what is currently possible, thereby aquiring "character" of the same sort found in the dubious electricals of Italian motorcycles of my youth...
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Post by: 32BT on September 28, 2017, 12:37:04 pm
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/7399803-sacrif-orig_orig.jpg)

Rob

Inner madness?
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 28, 2017, 12:37:32 pm
Been to a friend's al fresco concert (and witnessed the sky):

Hell of a sky!

Jeremy
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Post by: Rob C on September 28, 2017, 02:07:52 pm
Inner madness?

Or, fear of the Black Hole?

;-)

Rob
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Post by: Telecaster on September 28, 2017, 03:32:20 pm
You can take such a sharp image of Saturn at 800mm (even if at 100%)? That wasn't a cutout of a magazine illustration of Saturn? If true, it is amazing what we can do today with cameras and lenses (and software).

Handheld too! ISO 1600. I've attached a pre-upres crop of the Saturn pic. (Oops, had to convert the 16-bit TIF to JPEG first.)

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on September 28, 2017, 04:40:04 pm
I think all of us have had searches for what may be a magic ingredient in another's work, but does it really exist? I suspect not; if anything, it's that person's overall technique and eye for what to photograph.

Yes, Malinowski. Only vaguely familiar with him. Don't know Giacobetti at all.

Guitardom is full of "If I get the kind of guitar xxxx has I'll be able to play like xxxx!" It's an odd kind of naïveté. Maybe, if you're fortunate, in that quest to be someone else you'll find yourself.

Leica has been really good at maintaining a consistent look across their rangefinder lens line since the late '60s/early '70s. Ironically this coincided with their loss of market share (for other reasons) to SLRs. I really like the '70s & '80s Walter Mandler lens designs. He had to do the best he could given the financial constraints he was under.

-Dave-
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Post by: 32BT on September 29, 2017, 01:30:38 pm
Exquisitely restored Citroën Traction Avant
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Post by: Rob C on September 30, 2017, 11:35:15 am
If it hasn't got a "75" plate, then it's worthless, even if it is a tarted sister to Maigret's wheels.

That's exactly the sort of critique at which Without Prejudice excels: frank, honest, fair, open-minded and without a soupçon of pretentiousness. I feel proud to be a cog of this mighty thing, this wheel of life as she is lived.

Rob
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Post by: 32BT on September 30, 2017, 12:25:47 pm
I just checked, she's from 56. I think maybe the shine of the bodypaint isn't zeitgeistgenau. Or maybe that's just because my first memory of this car was in the barn of my grandpa where he used to keep one of those once-to-be-restored projects. I was maybe 4 years old and my brother and I would pretend play driving great distances to unknown destinations, often through pretend rain because the coolest thing to us was the windscreenwhipers that would be handoperated from inside the car. Not sure how that would pan out in reality...
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 30, 2017, 02:00:52 pm
Going nowhere...

Jeremy
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 30, 2017, 02:02:36 pm
If it hasn't got a "75" plate, then it's worthless, even if it is a tarted sister to Maigret's wheels.

In red, Rob? I never understood why some (all?) 75 plates were red.

I just checked, she's from 56.

I think Rob meant a Parisian plate.

Jeremy
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Post by: 32BT on September 30, 2017, 02:18:11 pm

I think Rob meant a Parisian plate.

Jeremy

Ah, yes, you're likely right, the place he wanted to live all along...
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Post by: Rob C on September 30, 2017, 02:27:38 pm
Thank you, Jeremy!

Oscar: Paris or Rome - it would have been much the same to me other than at the time I spoke Italian much better than I do now, when it has disintegrated into Spitalian, and I never know which one may come out of my mouth - usually not very well. Had I remembered school French better, I'd be able to handle this in perfect Mediterranean. As it is, French remains a written language to me, which can be read but no longer penned or understood through the ear. Who says the mind doesn't go on holiday?

I'm currently watching Engrenages, a French cop drama series, and without subtitles I'd be lost. But I'm reliably told that the French seldom understand other French people either. Which explains a lot about their politics. Just like the Brits, then.

;-(

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 01, 2017, 05:48:05 am
But I'm reliably told that the French seldom understand other French people either.

Listening would reduce the time available for talking...

Here's Cynthia last night, at iso6400
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Post by: Rob C on October 01, 2017, 06:40:53 am
Listening would reduce the time available for talking...

Here's Cynthia last night, at iso6400

What, she can play without looking?

Good grief; makes me feel even more musically incapable than ever.

;-(

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 01, 2017, 10:09:23 am
What, she can play withou looking?

Indeed. She did another performance where she played entirely with her eyes closed and turned to the side so that her face could be painted as she played.
Apparently that required some practice.
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Post by: Rob C on October 01, 2017, 12:15:58 pm
Indeed. She did another performance where she played entirely with her eyes closed and turned to the side so that her face could be painted as she played.
Apparently that required some practice.

Yes, it does: some do make-up better than others.

;-)

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 01, 2017, 01:10:16 pm
The grain on the Pentax can be surprisingly slight if the light isn't too red... here is the final shot, where a flood from over the audience was brought up. It's at iso25800...
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Post by: farbschlurf on October 01, 2017, 03:11:55 pm
Some Kitsch.

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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 01, 2017, 03:27:37 pm
Some Kitsch.

I'll see yours and raise you mine:
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 01, 2017, 03:32:31 pm
This is Cynthia 2 years ago in the first of the "Animus" series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RspjL64uGkc

She does know her way around a keyboard (and beyond).
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Post by: farbschlurf on October 01, 2017, 03:34:34 pm
I'll see yours and raise you mine:
Ah! You know, you just cannot resist when some things happen right before your eyes!
;-)
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 01, 2017, 03:35:08 pm
And from another angle...
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Post by: Rob C on October 01, 2017, 05:11:16 pm
Reminds me of a blues: Trouble in mind...

;-)

Rob
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Post by: BobDavid on October 02, 2017, 04:20:38 am
Stock photo-ish tree pic
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Post by: Telecaster on October 02, 2017, 05:24:06 pm
From today's trail walk.

(I coulda put this in the Abstract thread, but I view abstraction as a matter of intent as well as result. This is just a crop I happen to like from an otherwise meh photo.  :) )

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on October 02, 2017, 08:50:53 pm
Another square. The Moon showed up again tonight too.

-Dave-
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 03, 2017, 08:08:49 am
Back to black (and white).

This was with my muscle-building lens, a 300/2.8 hand held at 1/30. I like image stabilisation :)
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on October 03, 2017, 02:20:51 pm
Another square. The Moon showed up again tonight too.

Power lines serving a useful purpose!

Jeremy
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Post by: 32BT on October 04, 2017, 05:55:30 am
Neither telegraph pole, nor Nevada desert. Although come to think of it, if you look carefully, maybe it is the modern equivalent of a telegraphpole...
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Post by: Telecaster on October 04, 2017, 03:20:56 pm
A subject I often use to test focus & exposure accuracy with newly acquired gear…or, as in this case, newly paired camera/lens combos.  :)  It's next to my backyard.

-Dave-
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Post by: BobDavid on October 05, 2017, 03:43:20 am
A subject I often use to test focus & exposure accuracy with newly acquired gear…or, as in this case, newly paired camera/lens combos.  :)  It's next to my backyard.

-Dave-
good test subject
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Post by: BobDavid on October 05, 2017, 03:44:41 am
"Petri Dish"
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 05, 2017, 08:32:11 am
Good ones, Rob and Bob.
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Post by: muntanela on October 05, 2017, 04:08:11 pm
Some details of the IV Pavilion of the Morelli Hospital in Sondalo. (After the TURP)

https://museodeisanatori.com/paesaggio/

(Italian and english text)
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Post by: Telecaster on October 05, 2017, 05:56:56 pm
Some details of the IV Pavilion of the Morelli Hospital in Sondalo. (After the TURP)

Heckuva location!

(I presume the TURP happened elsewhere…)

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on October 05, 2017, 06:04:22 pm
From today's trail walk. Took pics via 35/1.4 lens wide open (3-stop ND filter). Even the selfie!

-Dave-
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Post by: muntanela on October 06, 2017, 03:55:09 am
Heckuva location!

(I presume the TURP happened elsewhere…)

-Dave-

The TURP happened here (look at the arrow). That door (it was the outside door of my room) is older then seventy (the interior of the pavilion is quite, or enough, modern).
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Post by: farbschlurf on October 06, 2017, 04:11:29 am
Tourists.

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Post by: BobDavid on October 06, 2017, 04:32:58 am
Round
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 06, 2017, 04:45:32 am
Tourists.

Excellent... they look as if they're on stage... :)
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 06, 2017, 08:02:19 am
Tourist posing with Pride Day Paraders (taken 13 years ago, now).

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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 07, 2017, 10:07:26 am
I'm sure somebody must make a reticulation plugin for LightRoom or PhotoShop.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 07, 2017, 11:29:21 am
Shooting a friend at his concert the other night. After looking at the first picture, I realized who he reminds me of (in that picture): younger Ansel Adams :)
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Post by: Rob C on October 07, 2017, 11:32:49 am
Shooting a friend at his concert the other night. After looking at the first picture, I realized who he reminds me of (in that picture): younger Ansel Adams :)

In the Adams picture Adams is displaying his prescience and sense of humour: note the large Red Dot on his camera.

;-)

Rob
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 07, 2017, 09:26:49 pm
Been to a country fair in Indiana, under a stormy sky:

Edit: added the second photo for context
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Post by: BobDavid on October 07, 2017, 10:32:23 pm
Been to a country fair in Indiana, under a stormy sky:

Edit: added a second photo for context

The second photo grabs my interest more than the first. It's fun to see the attendees, and the wide view offers more to see and take in. Of course the color has your signature look.
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on October 08, 2017, 03:36:31 am
I'm sure somebody must make a reticulation plugin for LightRoom or PhotoShop.

Adobe!

In PS, Filter gallery / Sketch / Reticulation. Never used it myself.

Jeremy
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Post by: farbschlurf on October 08, 2017, 03:59:25 am
Been to a country fair in Indiana, under a stormy sky:

Edit: added a second photo for context

The first without the poles would be an abstract, but a good "science-fiction" photo.
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Post by: Rob C on October 08, 2017, 09:19:07 am
If one looks at the first one through half-closed eyes - or without glasses if one needs them - discounts the poles, then it could remind one of the Canary Islands.

Rob
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Post by: farbschlurf on October 09, 2017, 03:07:17 am
Not a nice subject, but somehow I got the frame filled.
:-)

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Post by: Telecaster on October 09, 2017, 02:42:31 pm
From a couple weeks ago. I love the textures of pine bark.

-Dave-
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 09, 2017, 08:33:41 pm
Came across this in my brother-in-law's back yard this afternoon. Just had to take it home. It's 11"/28cm across.
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Post by: BobDavid on October 10, 2017, 02:56:12 am
Came across this in my brother-in-law's back yard this afternoon. Just had to take it home. It's 11"/28cm across.

very nice
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Post by: BobDavid on October 10, 2017, 03:00:25 am
Ethereal Horizon
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Post by: Telecaster on October 10, 2017, 03:18:45 pm
Came across this in my brother-in-law's back yard this afternoon. Just had to take it home. It's 11"/28cm across.

I like it! (The photo and the thing itself.) Early last spring I found most of an opposum skeleton in my yard while cleaning up. Shoulda kept it and let it dry out.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on October 10, 2017, 03:19:57 pm
Ethereal Horizon

Alternate seascape.  :D

-Dave-
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Post by: farbschlurf on October 12, 2017, 01:19:17 pm
Shadow
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 13, 2017, 06:11:18 am
This taken, innocently, from the courtyard of the Lyon bar association...
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Post by: Rob C on October 13, 2017, 07:04:53 am
Ooooh! Better be extra careful there - what with law and asses.

:-)

Rob
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Post by: Kevin Gallagher on October 14, 2017, 10:44:06 am
.


 Just saw this one today, very nicely done Bill!!

 Kevin in CT
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Post by: tom b on October 15, 2017, 10:21:11 pm
Crazy cows. I found this image (hey I took the original image) on my computer desktop. Don't trust Illustrators!

Cheers
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 17, 2017, 09:20:52 am
Claire
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 18, 2017, 05:10:54 am
At the book market on the Saône
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Post by: armand on October 20, 2017, 09:41:09 pm
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Post by: BobDavid on October 22, 2017, 04:21:05 am
house interrupts view
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Post by: Rob C on October 22, 2017, 08:04:33 am
house interrupts view

A sick, crazy friend with a Zippo...

Rob
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 22, 2017, 09:21:43 am
house interrupts view
That's just what Content-aware Fill is for.

Or is that how the house got there???   ;D
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 22, 2017, 09:58:53 am
Good morning, sunshine ;)
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Post by: Rob C on October 22, 2017, 11:04:55 am
I really do admire that shot, Slobodan.

Rob
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 22, 2017, 12:07:20 pm
I really do admire that shot, Slobodan.

Rob
+1.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 22, 2017, 12:40:23 pm
I really do admire that shot, Slobodan...

When you open your eyes on Sunday morning and the brightest part in your view is a bottle of bourbon... a cheap one, I might add ;)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 22, 2017, 12:46:34 pm
When you open your eyes on Sunday morning and the brightest part in your view is a bottle of bourbon... a cheap one, I might add ;)
It's to your credit that you reached for your camera before emptying the bottle.   :D
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on October 22, 2017, 12:53:34 pm
When you open your eyes on Sunday morning and the brightest part in your view is a bottle of bourbon... a cheap one, I might add ;)
It's to your credit that you reached for your camera before emptying the bottle.   :D

It can only have been because it was cheap! Nice one, Slobodan.

Jeremy
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Post by: Telecaster on October 22, 2017, 05:44:45 pm
Just a snap but taken this lovely afternoon while walking and enjoying the last summer-ish warmth we’re likely to get ‘til next year. Used my GX8 in prep for an upcoming holiday.  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: KLaban on October 22, 2017, 06:44:32 pm
The Third Dimension.

Leica M240, 90mm Summarit.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Rob1.jpg)
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 23, 2017, 11:21:20 am
Summer appeared to finally end on Sunday, with an attack of cold rain that sent the terrace coffee drinkers into imposed conviviality under the big umbrella, then a brief burst of hail that had them inside...
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Post by: muntanela on October 23, 2017, 12:42:42 pm
Populus tremula along the mountain road to Martinasc (near the road to Mortirolo Pass, Valtellina).
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Post by: Chairman Bill on October 23, 2017, 12:43:17 pm
An unexpected visitor popped by for a spot of lunch
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on October 23, 2017, 01:44:57 pm
The Third Dimension.

She was lucky: they didn't bury her until she was dead. He was just having a nap.  ;)

Jeremy
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 23, 2017, 02:02:17 pm
She was lucky: they didn't bury her until she was dead. He was just having a nap.  ;)

Jeremy
;D
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Post by: Telecaster on October 23, 2017, 05:03:06 pm
I’m annoyed that I can’t quite make out Mrs. Coote’s name. Ve???n, I think.

-Dave-
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Post by: KLaban on October 24, 2017, 05:06:24 am
I’m annoyed that I can’t quite make out Mrs. Coote’s name. Ve???n, I think.

-Dave-

Passage of time I'm afraid. But yes, it is frustrating, even at 100% with contrast and clarity whacked up it's still indecipherable.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 24, 2017, 10:15:51 am
Maybe it's "Verizon???"   ;)
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Post by: Telecaster on October 24, 2017, 04:50:45 pm
Maybe it's "Verizon???"   ;)

Can you hear me now?

-Dave-
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Post by: degrub on October 24, 2017, 08:49:56 pm
and the pin drops....
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Post by: KLaban on October 25, 2017, 05:14:28 am
and the pin drops....

Couldn't hear it...
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 25, 2017, 05:57:40 am
Some people doing unscripted people things outside Le Musée Gardagne in Lyon.
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Post by: KLaban on October 25, 2017, 06:23:57 am
Maybe it's "Verizon???"   ;)

Nah, it's Vibhooshita.

;-)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 25, 2017, 10:39:17 am
Some people doing unscripted people things outside Le Musée Gardagne in Lyon.
I love it!
You can't make these things up.
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Post by: 32BT on October 25, 2017, 11:10:05 am
I love it!
You can't make these things up.

+1
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Post by: Rob C on October 26, 2017, 10:02:36 am
Couldn't hear it...

Ring-a-ding-ding?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0U6hxa6C58

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 30, 2017, 07:09:08 am
This is Bérenice... when she's not performing as a hospital clown, she keeps in shape with a bit of street-juggling.
(Fascinating, she's the 3rd generation of a family of performers, jugglers, clowns and musicians... the 4th generation is sitting on the steps behind, but not visible in this shot)
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Post by: Rob C on October 30, 2017, 08:44:17 am
This is Bérenice... when she's not performing as a hospital clown, she keeps in shape with a bit of street-juggling.
(Fascinating, she's the 3rd generation of a family of performers, jugglers, clowns and musicians... the 4th generation is sitting on the steps behind, but not visible in this shot)

How the hell do you manage to enjoy such an eclectic group of mates?

Gimme the secret.

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 30, 2017, 09:13:16 am
Put my card in her hat along with some coins... with a link to my 500px site. Sometimes I get a good response :)
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Post by: Rob C on October 30, 2017, 04:39:27 pm
Put my card in her hat along with some coins... with a link to my 500px site. Sometimes I get a good response :)

Brilliant!

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on October 31, 2017, 06:43:52 am
Performers usually want photos of themselves, so if you can make them look good... and she saw that I had a bunch of performance shots :)

BTW, jugglers and acrobats are a challenge to shoot at this time of year. I took a few on Saturday at 800iso, f/4 and 125. They were soft: while the image stabilisation can easily cope with me shaking the camera at 1/125, it can't deal with a rapidly moving subject. Jugglers seem to move their head a lot, and quickly. Musicians are much easier in low light. Sunday she called and invited me back to take some more, and 1600iso and f/2.8 seemed to do the trick at around 5pm.

It appears that the eye can more easily tolerate a bit of fuzziness amongst the grain, then a fluffy head in an otherwise sharp picture.

Here's a B&W version which I rather like:
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 31, 2017, 08:05:35 am
Here's a B&W version which I rather like:
For very good reason. Great catch!
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Post by: Bruce Cox on October 31, 2017, 11:22:41 am
pier
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Post by: farbschlurf on October 31, 2017, 11:31:31 am
Visited "my tree" again ... somehow the color got a bit heavy ... well ...

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Post by: Telecaster on October 31, 2017, 12:58:48 pm
Great catch!

Always with the puns…

 :D

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on October 31, 2017, 01:03:50 pm
Here’s two of my own, the second taken ~7 minutes after the first and with the lens pointed in the same general direction.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on October 31, 2017, 01:40:38 pm
A view from the room.

-Dave-
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Post by: farbschlurf on October 31, 2017, 03:22:30 pm
nice view...
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Post by: churly on October 31, 2017, 06:51:52 pm
My neighbor backing the car out of the driveway.
The art of the mundane?
Chuck
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Post by: armand on October 31, 2017, 10:01:46 pm
My neighbor backing the car out of the driveway.
The art of the mundane?
Chuck

Could have been anything  :)
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Post by: armand on October 31, 2017, 10:02:11 pm
intermezzo
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Post by: John R on October 31, 2017, 10:49:34 pm
Working on removing the wire. But it will do for now.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-jhgz4c4/0/e63fa07a/M/Oct%2031-%202017%20Airport%20Road_1362%20bw-copy1000-M.jpg)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 01, 2017, 12:11:28 am
My neighbor backing the car out of the driveway.
The art of the mundane?
Chuck
Nce abstract.
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 01, 2017, 06:25:52 am
For very good reason. Great catch!

Better catch.
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Post by: Rob C on November 01, 2017, 07:09:04 am
My neighbor backing the car out of the driveway.
The art of the mundane?
Chuck


Yes, catching something better than the obvious out of the mundane is an art in itself.

Well done!

Rob
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 01, 2017, 11:14:21 am
Better catch.
Did you get the next shot in the sequence? The one where she tosses another pin in the air with her left leg (while the right leg is still elevated?)   ;)
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Post by: Rob C on November 01, 2017, 12:55:04 pm
Did you get the next shot in the sequence? The one where she tosses another pin in the air with her left leg (while the right leg is still elevated?)   ;)


They do everything bigger and better in la belle France - or am I thinking of Texas?

Personally, I'd keep well clear of a lady with big clubs.

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 01, 2017, 02:10:54 pm
Did you get the next shot in the sequence? The one where she tosses another pin in the air with her left leg (while the right leg is still elevated?)   ;)

Yeah, but it was out of focus. Did get a couple of others...

Also looked up her CV online... she was one of the junglers during the opening ceremony of the Albertville Winter Games... which was the first of the fully choreographed opening ceremonies, I remember being blown away watching it on TV. That was 1992, so she has been throwing and catching for some time.
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Post by: John R on November 01, 2017, 03:01:57 pm
Nce abstract.
Very nice abstract. Now line up all the neighbors, one at a time, into and out of that driveway.

JR
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Post by: Rob C on November 01, 2017, 04:21:36 pm
Graham, Bérenice has a great set of synapses!

Rob
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 01, 2017, 04:39:11 pm
Graham,
You have caught her just beautifully.

Eric
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 01, 2017, 05:41:16 pm
Change of pace, across to the verandah of the Opéra, favourite place for break-dancers to do their thing. Normally their thing doesn't interest me much, but there was this young boy having a go at the end...
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Post by: Telecaster on November 02, 2017, 03:43:14 am
Susan, in trail-walking mode.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on November 02, 2017, 07:12:47 am
Susan, in trail-walking mode.

-Dave-

W. Eugene Smith with wider view?

I enjoy shallow dof and think it pretty much always (subject dependent, of course) adds quite a lot of drama to the photographs. It's one of the reasons that I love Feurer's work so much: he always gets right down to the important bits and eliminates the stuff that detracts from that.

Makes me salivate lust after Nikon's 200mm. Maybe if the apartment sells there will be realistic temptation anew.

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 02, 2017, 08:45:48 am
W. Eugene Smith with wider view?

Would he have focused on the fence, or the walker?

I'm thinking Saul again, for hiding the real subject through focus. Here's my contribution to the theme from yesterday:
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Post by: Rob C on November 02, 2017, 09:14:45 am
As she has her ears on, she probably didn't hear you coming.

Another thread here made me think again of the impossible 2/200mm Nikkor.

Something that surprised me - to an extent - about Saul was his embracing of digital. On the other hand, I can understand that film got rather awkward - and expensive - if he was still thinking, at the time, about paying his light bills. I've seen images of him with a Panasonic G1, but as with William Klein and a Sony or Fuji - I forget which - I wonder if it's all to do with advertising. How cynical the industry makes one become. Even, perhaps, without cause. Perhaps Saul's rebirth came too late, but if not, then were I Leica, he'd have had a brand new camera in his hands, with all the glass he wanted.

During lunch today I went onto Goggle's Patrick Lichfield Imagenes list, and I remember he really did get a bum deal from some of the UK press corps. He did good fashion and calendar shoots. Maybe it's in the British psyche to try to knock those of better birth conditions than the norm. Yes, access is always a huge plus, but one shouldn't forget that the goods still need delivering; nothing gets you a second bite at any cherry if you drop a client into the deeper smellies.

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 02, 2017, 09:41:02 am
As she has her ears on, she probably didn't hear you coming.

In fact I focused on the pumpkin, expecting to have some vague café-business happening through the window. The exposure was off, I lowered the camera, twiddled some knobs and when I brought it back to my eye there was this women in the window. Click. I think she looked only at the moment I fired the shutter.
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Post by: 32BT on November 02, 2017, 10:00:49 am
Here's my contribution to the theme from yesterday:

When i take a snap like that, they usually raise the other finger...
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 02, 2017, 12:40:01 pm
When i take a snap like that, they usually raise the other finger...

I did look at the image more than once to check  :D
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Post by: Telecaster on November 03, 2017, 01:55:54 am
Dum de dum de dum…
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Post by: Telecaster on November 03, 2017, 01:57:02 am
Hi there! Got any food?
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Post by: Telecaster on November 03, 2017, 02:02:43 am
Wonder if there’s food up in this red thing…
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Post by: Telecaster on November 03, 2017, 02:04:11 am
What’s making that clicking noise? Must investigate…
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Post by: Telecaster on November 03, 2017, 02:05:38 am
Think I’ll lick the shiny part…
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Post by: farbschlurf on November 03, 2017, 03:17:24 am
Nice green guy. Hope you got something for him (her)?

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Post by: farbschlurf on November 03, 2017, 03:20:27 am
One of the few houses around which is looking still like it does.

 
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 03, 2017, 05:36:54 am
Dum de dum de dum…

Ooh, a colour management opportunity!  8)
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 03, 2017, 05:39:45 am
So further to the selective (de-)focus idea... I rather regret not having focused on the shoes, or at least having a version of each to compare. On the other hand, it was fun being able to read the text in the full res image :)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 03, 2017, 08:13:31 am
Dum de dum de dum…
Isn't that the actor from those TV commercials?
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Post by: Rob C on November 03, 2017, 08:47:13 am
So further to the selective (de-)focus idea... I rather regret not having focused on the shoes, or at least having a version of each to compare. On the other hand, it was fun being able to read the text in the full res image :)


Cost many a careless politico his reputation, carrying documents exposed to the world's press as he walks importantly from No 10...
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Post by: Telecaster on November 03, 2017, 02:57:34 pm
Nice green guy. Hope you got something for him (her)?

Yep, I broke off some crumbs from the tasty blueberry scone I was eating.  :)  (Daylight Mind (https://www.daylightmind.com) coffee shop. If y’all ever visit Kona on Big Island do check it out. They’ve always got tasty fresh pastries and breads, plus 4–5 varieties of real deal Kona coffee available. They also run a fine restaurant.)

There’s definitely a resemblance to the Geico gecko. American accent, though…  ;D

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on November 04, 2017, 01:49:35 am
Tried this last night but the pleasant breeze died off while I was setting up. Better tonight.

-Dave-
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 04, 2017, 06:31:02 am
A group of women seated outside a pub in Vieux Lyon sketching. I saw her head turn towards me in the viewfinder and thought I was busted, but she was checking out the competition...
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Post by: Rob C on November 04, 2017, 07:51:45 am
Dammit, even your artists look cute!

Grrrrr...!

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 04, 2017, 05:06:29 pm
For Mr Eggleton.
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Post by: Rob C on November 04, 2017, 05:57:51 pm
For Mr Eggleton.

Only Leica and "color"...

;-)

Rob
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Post by: Rob C on November 05, 2017, 03:33:23 pm
Funny thing: I have just been looking at the previous Without Prejudice (2) threads; we all seemed to be a bit more friendly in those days back in 2013.

Life, I guess.

Rob
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Post by: Telecaster on November 06, 2017, 12:59:32 am
Early morning and early evening, the first via Panasonic GX8 and the second via iPhone pano.

-Dave-
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 06, 2017, 04:40:34 am
Bit of film noir...
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Post by: John R on November 06, 2017, 06:43:50 am
Cliche, I know. But sometimes we have to enter "altered reality" competition This is one such creation.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-dFZGhD2/1/07de1bc7/M/Oct%2023-11%20HP-2%20295%20smug%20creativecopy-M.jpg)
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Post by: JNB_Rare on November 07, 2017, 08:41:34 am
"If you go out in the woods today, you're sure of a big surprise." My surprise was finding a dozen or so car wrecks from the late 1950's and early 1960's that have been there at least 30 years, judging from the trees that have grown up around them. And I do mean WRECKS, as these were all very twisted and mangled. Was happily clicking away when I heard a distant gun shot. Cripes! It's hunting season and me all dressed in earth tones. I beat a hasty retreat back out to the well-marked walking path.
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Post by: John R on November 08, 2017, 02:18:44 am
Just playing around.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Landscape-Impressions/i-fQHJSrH/0/07183e68/L/Arrowhead%20Park%20095%20panocopy-1200-L.jpg)
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Post by: Rob C on November 08, 2017, 07:09:32 am
Bit of film noir...

Just found this, for some reason - instantly reminded me of Newton's shot, in Paris, with the two women: the one with full birthday suit and the other in gentleman's evening suit... Berlin must have been a strange place - thank goodness.

;-)

Rob
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Post by: Rob C on November 08, 2017, 07:10:57 am
Just playing around.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Landscape-Impressions/i-fQHJSrH/0/07183e68/L/Arrowhead%20Park%20095%20panocopy-1200-L.jpg)

This one really suits the subject very well indeed. Congrats!

Rob
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 08, 2017, 09:59:21 am
Just playing around.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Landscape-Impressions/i-fQHJSrH/0/07183e68/L/Arrowhead%20Park%20095%20panocopy-1200-L.jpg)
Lovely!

But one quibble: For perfection you should include the JMR logo reversed in the lower left corner.   ;D
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Post by: John R on November 08, 2017, 10:37:40 pm
Lovely!

But one quibble: For perfection you should include the JMR logo reversed in the lower left corner.   ;D
Now, why didn't I think of that. It's on my list, be a little less perfect  ;)
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Post by: Riaan van Wyk on November 09, 2017, 04:33:17 am
Snap JMR :)

Your work here over the years have inspired me for some time now to try do the same.
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Post by: Riaan van Wyk on November 09, 2017, 04:55:20 am
Rainy days makes one stay indoors and try other things.
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 09, 2017, 05:51:50 am
Excellent idea. Rain has many virtues...
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 09, 2017, 08:38:11 am
Excellent idea. Rain has many virtues...
+1.
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Post by: John R on November 09, 2017, 09:09:04 am
Snap JMR :)

Your work here over the years have inspired me for some time now to try do the same.
Very nice Riann. If you find the images too light or unsaturated, try the 'multiply' feature in PS or Elements, and then bring opacity slider down until the saturation appears more realistic.

I like your sofa image too. Right away it reminded me of a nude body lying on its side. Good seeing, and it's all about seeing.

JR
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Post by: armand on November 09, 2017, 11:29:05 am
With not many leaves left in the trees this is the next step
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Post by: Telecaster on November 09, 2017, 01:31:06 pm
With not many leaves left in the trees this is the next step

I like these! You could triptych ‘em.

-Dave-
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Post by: John R on November 09, 2017, 06:54:42 pm
I like these! You could triptych ‘em.

-Dave-
I agree. But too much to ask for more green like the last two images ;)

JR
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Post by: Telecaster on November 09, 2017, 07:52:58 pm
A fallen *plumeria bloom, spotted during this afternoon’s neighborhood stroll.

-Dave-

*aka melia
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 10, 2017, 07:53:14 am
Some hats
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Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2017, 08:50:07 am
Some hats

A left hook fixes many problems.

Nice one.

Rob
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Post by: armand on November 10, 2017, 04:06:28 pm
Lake Huron
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Post by: Telecaster on November 10, 2017, 08:49:54 pm
The Ambassador bridge, no? Owned by the appropriately named (not to mention colossally greedy) Mr. Moroun.

-Dave-
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Post by: armand on November 10, 2017, 10:25:55 pm
The Ambassador bridge, no? Owned by the appropriately named (not to mention colossally greedy) Mr. Moroun.

-Dave-

Nope, the other end of Huron. Mackinac Bridge.
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Post by: Telecaster on November 11, 2017, 01:08:49 am
Nope, the other end of Huron. Mackinac Bridge.

Hah! I forgot Huron went all the way up the mitten. Haven’t been on Mackinac Bridge in over 30 years.

Attached pic: Mackinac Bridge c. summer 1958. Taken by my mom.

-Dave-

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Post by: Rob C on November 11, 2017, 04:12:09 am
Hah! I forgot Huron went all the way up the mitten. Haven’t been on Mackinac Bridge in over 30 years.

Attached pic: Mackinac Bridge c. summer 1958. Taken by my mom.

-Dave-

Not devoid of an eye, Mom! Knows how to use red. too. But then, women always had a better sense of colour than us.

Rob
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Post by: Riaan van Wyk on November 11, 2017, 04:29:16 am
Very nice Riann. If you find the images too light or unsaturated, try the 'multiply' feature in PS or Elements, and then bring opacity slider down until the saturation appears more realistic.

I like your sofa image too. Right away it reminded me of a nude body lying on its side. Good seeing, and it's all about seeing.

JR

Thanks John, I have forgotten about the multiply feature, will try it again. The sofa, by the way, is not a sofa :)
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Post by: Rob C on November 11, 2017, 06:23:09 am
Thanks John, I have forgotten about the multiply feature, will try it again. The sofa, by the way, is not a sofa :)

Riaan, John had a difficult childhood. (Joke!!!)

Rob
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Post by: armand on November 11, 2017, 08:22:07 am
Hah! I forgot Huron went all the way up the mitten. Haven’t been on Mackinac Bridge in over 30 years.

Attached pic: Mackinac Bridge c. summer 1958. Taken by my mom.

-Dave-

Well, it looks the same to this day. Clouds and all.
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Post by: armand on November 11, 2017, 08:23:18 am
Thanks John, I have forgotten about the multiply feature, will try it again. The sofa, by the way, is not a sofa :)

Thank you for clarifying, I thought I have a perverted mind.
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Post by: Rob C on November 11, 2017, 09:17:31 am
Thank you for clarifying, I thought I have a perverted mind.

For the sake of the continuity of the species we are usually well-programmed to understand these serious matters. Let's face it, even zebras know what's what, and that could be difficult.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: churly on November 11, 2017, 09:44:07 am
Windows on a small piece of the world.

Definitely lacks on the technical side (my crappy phone camera) but couldn't pass this by.
Chuck
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on November 11, 2017, 03:01:01 pm
Not my best day. After I managed to get a few hours off from work (a deadline is near) I realised theres a great sky. Hurrying to pack my camera bag. So save time didn't pick up the large one, but jammed everything in a smaller bag. Stepped out of the door, and bang, the overloaded bag slipped from my shoulder. And dammit, an old film-camera, a XD-7, did hit the ground too hard, major bump, ISO-Dial damaged, also there seem to be something broken with the film-advance. Yes I know. Never a good idea to hurry, never pays ... cannot change it afterwards ...
When I reached the place I wanted to go, there was nice light and little rain, but it was very, very windy. No use for a tripod. Than the sun broke through, wonderful scene, but it came so unpredicted fast I was not in place. For a good shot I basically would have needed to jump right in the lake ... I already stood ankle deep in the mud. so here's the best I got. Not my best day ...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4532/38309008482_34f32b2096_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21neFyf)Late Fall Day (https://flic.kr/p/21neFyf) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr

Few others from the short walk an flickr, but it's rather playing around.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 11, 2017, 04:19:58 pm
Nice picture, Stefan. I'm sorry about the camera accident.

One of my last film cameras was a Pentax 67 II, which I had with me on a photo outing. I was using an unfamiliar quick-release on the tripod, and when I thought I had attached it, it just toppled off the tripod onto a paved parking lot, landing on the pentaprism, which was badly damaged.

The service outfit determined that it was unfixable, but at least it was a separate, replaceable item. Now I'm slower and more careful when using a tripod.

-Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 11, 2017, 04:41:24 pm
Nice picture, Stefan. I'm sorry about the camera accident.

One of my last film cameras was a Pentax 67 II, which I had with me on a photo outing. I was using an unfamiliar quick-release on the tripod, and when I thought I had attached it, it just toppled off the tripod onto a paved parking lot, landing on the pentaprism, which was badly damaged.

The service outfit determined that it was unfixable, but at least it was a separate, replaceable item. Now I'm slower and more careful when using a tripod.

-Eric

That was also my last 120 format camera. It was beautifully made, but bounced like a lunatic flea, both at the shutter as at the mirror. It was never used hand-held, and always MU but to no avail: that massive focal plane shutter was a staunch seeker after suicide. As with all crazies, it had to go.

I can't even claim innocence: Sante D'Orazio used one too, and some pics of Helena Christensen were so blurred... what a waste! Suspension of belief, I suppose, coupled with the certainty that used with the two shuttered lenses, in a strobe studio, it wouldn't have been a problem. But, I'd long abandoned studios. Pentax, I'm sure, rests its case right there.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 11, 2017, 05:52:44 pm
Yes, Rob The seismic activity of its shutter was not its best feature. It was while I still owned the Pentax that I got my first digital camera, the Canon 10D. I did tripod tests comparing the amount of detail from the Pentax versus the Canon, and the Canon with its much smaller than 35mm "full-frame" sensor beat the 6x7cm quite substantially, even with mirror locked up on the Pentax.

My favorite hand-held MF film camera was the Mamiya 6 (6x6 cm) rangefinder. Lightweight, easy to hand-hold, really quite a fun camera.

-Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 11, 2017, 08:23:00 pm
My favorite hand-held MF film camera was the Mamiya 6 (6x6 cm) rangefinder. Lightweight, easy to hand-hold, really quite a fun camera.

Yup, the 6 was a good ‘un. I could’ve bought my friend Bruce’s whole outfit when he put it up for sale (after getting a 10D!) but I’d just sold my Pentax 645 (after getting a 10D!) and had no interest in another medium format camera. Now neither of us has a 10D while both of us kinda regret not having a Mamiya.  ;D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 11, 2017, 08:28:41 pm
Daylight Mind (https://www.daylightmind.com) makes a pretty (and pretty darn good) cuppa flat white.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 11, 2017, 09:36:13 pm
Dave on this cool November morning I really could have used that drink, especially after hearing,"there is nothing to photograph." Kind of abstract.

JMR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-zVRDqmx/0/fb1e1ad0/M/Nov%2018-12%20Toronto-%20Downtown%20142%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on November 12, 2017, 04:39:10 am
Daylight Mind (https://www.daylightmind.com) makes a pretty (and pretty darn good) cuppa flat white.
Nice you included the ocean view.
*envy*
;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 12, 2017, 05:56:09 am
Yes, Rob The seismic activity of its shutter was not its best feature. It was while I still owned the Pentax that I got my first digital camera, the Canon 10D. I did tripod tests comparing the amount of detail from the Pentax versus the Canon, and the Canon with its much smaller than 35mm "full-frame" sensor beat the 6x7cm quite substantially, even with mirror locked up on the Pentax.

My favorite hand-held MF film camera was the Mamiya 6 (6x6 cm) rangefinder. Lightweight, easy to hand-hold, really quite a fun camera.

-Eric

I did once hold a Mamiya 67 rangefinder in a dealership. I think I still have the brochure somewhere! No, of the camera: there was never a brochure made of me holding it.

The killer, I found, was the viewfinder: tiny, without the slightest sense of what the picture could look like.

A good choice for those with the disposable moolah could have been the three Rollei TLRs: the 55mm, 80mm and 135mm versions. No bounce problems and perhaps just a tad of frustration at the shortness of the longer lens for heads. (I think I have the focal length of the wide one right!)

I briefly owned a Mamiya TLR with the 180mm optic, a camera I had bought whilst I had my cheapo Rollei T with 75mm Tessar. When the 500C came to me I sold the Rollei but held on to the Mamiya until I could afford the 150mm for the 'blad. I soon discovered that the Mamiya lens was better for my uses than the 150mm Sonnar. Unfortunately, there was no 180mm 'blad option available in those days, but the mechanics of using a 180mm close up on that Mamiya were dreadful... It always felt to me like a very crude, primitive camera system - which it was, which is why I could afford that bit of it!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Tony Ovens on November 12, 2017, 11:41:56 am
I too had a Pentax 67 and found all the same issues. Partly resolved for some uses with the 90mm leaf shutter lens. 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 12, 2017, 01:06:38 pm
Dave on this cool November morning I really could have used that drink, especially after hearing,"there is nothing to photograph." Kind of abstract.

JMR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-zVRDqmx/0/fb1e1ad0/M/Nov%2018-12%20Toronto-%20Downtown%20142%20copy1000-M.jpg)

Clearly there was something! I love photos with pleasing geometry and minimal detail.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 12, 2017, 03:26:44 pm
I too had a Pentax 67 and found all the same issues. Partly resolved for some uses with the 90mm leaf shutter lens.

Both Mario Testino and Peter Lindbergh used Pentax 67 for some time. I think the 90mm and 160mm (?) shuttered lenses were the way to go for fashion, and yes, flash too.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 12, 2017, 08:01:04 pm
Diane Arbus briefly used a borrowed Pentax 67 (and evidently really liked it). As did Michael just before the Canon D30 came out!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on November 13, 2017, 01:15:42 am
In the mid 1970s, when I was in high school, my grandfather gave me his Rollei TLR with the Zeiss 80mm Planar f3.5. Compared to my Minolta SRT-100 (a fine 35mm camera), the Rollei was in an entirely different class. I loved looking into the ground glass and seeing the a mirror image of the world. The lens was amazing. I learned a lot about taking pictures with that camera.

I sold it about five years ago to a young adult for around $400. The camers was in great condition both mechanically and cosmetically. It was a thrill to pass it along to a young enthusiast.

I could've gotten more for it. Being that I hadn't run a roll of film through it since Y2K, I figured it was time to let it go to someone who'd enjoy using it.
 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 13, 2017, 04:30:38 am
What it may come down to, for those of us who enjoyed the 120 formats, is that there was something rather good about seeing a big image in the viewfinder.

The perfect solution, of course, would have been the ability simply to exchange a film back for a digi one of the same size.

Yes, I get the cost and difficulty factors, but that doesn't alter the concept itself.

Maybe future small cameras will incorporate enlarged LV within the viewfinder instead of on a rear screen; then, we would perhaps have the benefit of a larger, magnified screen on which to compose... Sure, a different shape for cameras, but they have been changing shape since the first one. I think of something built like a 500 'blad, similar size of screen, but the actual sensor any size (probably smaller) you desire it to be. As long as the viewfinder shows you a large image you should be okay, regardless of sensor shape. It should also let you rotate the image (as in PS) if not actually the sensor itself. Christmas if just around the corner...

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 13, 2017, 06:27:34 am
Given the hinged rear screen on many DSLR's, you could pretty much do this now, I think??

Mine doesn't pivot, so I can't verify the practicality... but I have often thought it would be nice feature to enable the camera to be used more discretely at waist-level.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 13, 2017, 04:42:29 pm
Anyway, in the dark no one can see you framing...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 13, 2017, 04:51:13 pm
Anyway, in the dark no one can see you framing...

Cracker!

I must try to get out more when the shadows fall!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 13, 2017, 05:02:39 pm
Anyway, this is one of the silent sentinels who watch me try to find a parking slot in the winter mud.

(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3189_3_orig.jpg)

Rob

P.S. Do you think I'd gain anything by "investing" in a new Phase mega-camera?
No! You do just fine with the equipment you have now.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 14, 2017, 09:00:02 am
Here's Norman Rockwell at night, if such a thing can be imagined...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 14, 2017, 09:32:38 am
Well, so far it can fly over the brolly.... next: the Moon!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 14, 2017, 11:45:24 am
Ahhh! :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 14, 2017, 11:54:50 am
Ahhh! :)

+1

Timed to perfection...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 14, 2017, 12:48:28 pm
Ahhh! :)

Now that’s a smooch!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on November 14, 2017, 01:41:52 pm
Usually one sees similar faces rather from men. Somehow funny it's a woman here, and even more sensual indeed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 14, 2017, 10:05:15 pm
A deep crop into the full photo, but it’s what I had in mind.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 15, 2017, 11:08:56 am
I love the image, Rob. Especially with the title and the caption.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 15, 2017, 03:00:11 pm
I love the image, Rob. Especially with the title and the caption.

Eric

Thank you, Eric.

I seem to be in a mental place where I flip from enthusiasm to emptiness by the day; I do wish I could resolve this property problem once and for all and get away to a brand new start in life, or at least to the point of feeling that I am back in the driving seat and that what happens depends, once more, on my own actions or lack of them! This feeling of suspended animation really sucks! Of course I won't be any the younger, but that's no reason to waste precious time and just rot!

I suppose I felt the same way twice before in life: before I found a path into photography; before I managed to get us to the Mediterranean life. Ironic that the next phase is the reversing of the latter all these many years later. Well, had Ann survived, none of this would have seemed that important, or might have found alternative solutions had the same, new, external political conditions prevailed. She was so wise and determined - where and when it mattered.

And I find myself having to watch that bloody Boris strut the stage, ruining more and more people's lives with his little Englander fantasies and absolute disregard for anything but personal power and publicity. A pox on all of those cursed people.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 15, 2017, 03:41:26 pm
Another rainy night shot. Maybe we can imagine Boris out there wandering in the rain, after his schemes collapse about him... well, that's a dream too, although a bit vengeful.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on November 15, 2017, 07:12:22 pm
perhaps Boris could go digging for clams at low tide and then ......
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 16, 2017, 04:09:01 am
Another rainy night shot. Maybe we can imagine Boris out there wandering in the rain, after his schemes collapse about him... well, that's a dream too, although a bit vengeful.

Funny thing: this image reminds me of a similar but totally different one from La Doce Vita, just prior to the wading in the Trevi moment... you know, where La Ekberg wonders around with a kitten on her head as Marcello goes hunting for milk - poor, besotted sod!

It appears that in reality - ever a dangerous consideration, for isn't playing a rôle in a film also very, very real? - he was actually enamoured of Claudia Cardinale, which is totally understandable. She was something very else in ... They don't make 'em like they used to!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 16, 2017, 05:33:05 am
I love the image, Rob. Especially with the title and the caption.

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 16, 2017, 11:16:52 am
This made me smirk. I wear the real things, wonderfully decayed naturally, and horizontally aspirated. And bought from the same Levi dealership many years ago. One day, I may buy the jacket.

Rob

They're doing this fake distressing to jackets, too.  >:(

I found a great, REAL vintage jean jacket at a local used clothing store. They were asking $15. Unfortunately, I'd forgotten about the general cut of those jackets. My shoulders are the same size as they used to be, but not my waist.  :-[  It sort of fit, but I looked like an old person trying to wear a young person's clothes. I still wear my naturally distressed jeans, though.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 16, 2017, 02:33:47 pm
They're doing this fake distressing to jackets, too.  >:(

I found a great, REAL vintage jean jacket at a local used clothing store. They were asking $15. Unfortunately, I'd forgotten about the general cut of those jackets. My shoulders are the same size as they used to be, but not my waist.  :-[  It sort of fit, but I looked like an old person trying to wear a young person's clothes. I still wear my naturally distressed jeans, though.

The problem or, should I say reason that I never bought the jackets is that they are too short: I really like them a bit longer to provide a better balance when worn over a sweater. It's one thing for women to suffer, willingly, a short jacket in winter so that they can show the tail of a shirt worn outside the jeans (thus casually playing peek-a-boo with the butt, should they choose), but for me, keeping the chill at bay is key! In summer, a jacket is too hot, so it can only find use in the cold.

But truth to tell, as with leather jackets (unless they come lined), denim is not a great insulator.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 16, 2017, 04:47:18 pm
t's one thing for women to suffer, willingly, a short jacket in winter so that they can show the tail of a shirt worn outside the jeans (thus casually playing peek-a-boo with the butt, should they choose), but for me, keeping the chill at bay is key! In summer, a jacket is too hot, so it can only find use in the cold.

French men seem almost as enslaved by fashion as women: watched a young guy getting along the street a couple of days back with several artfully gaping holes in the legs of his jeans. It was 4° with quite a dose of windchill...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 17, 2017, 04:56:07 am
French men seem almost as enslaved by fashion as women: watched a young guy getting along the street a couple of days back with several artfully gaping holes in the legs of his jeans. It was 4° with quite a dose of windchill...

That's why I shall never acquire the savoir faire of the French: my jeans ventilators are the real, home-grown deal that took years of careful wearing to develop. Bummer.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 17, 2017, 06:02:55 am
If you grow up in a household where one is expected to help maintain cars, and you start carrying old-style car batteries about before you have the strength to hold them away from your body... the process is quite dramatically faster :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 17, 2017, 09:10:09 am
If you grow up in a household where one is expected to help maintain cars, and you start carrying old-style car batteries about before you have the strength to hold them away from your body... the process is quite dramatically faster :)

That's perilously close to alternative cosmetic surgery... one might burn away one's own weight-induced hernia - at least.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on November 18, 2017, 01:51:15 pm
Only got my attention when going through the set a second time.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/37617982635_a4239f5a61_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZjaZDv)Forest (https://flic.kr/p/ZjaZDv) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 18, 2017, 03:42:10 pm
Only got my attention when going through the set a second time.

Neato! When this photo loaded in its browser tab the top quarter got lopped off. I think I like it better that way.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 18, 2017, 03:44:33 pm
Back home amongst the raindrops and general gloom…

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on November 19, 2017, 04:20:35 am
Neato! When this photo loaded in its browser tab the top quarter got lopped off. I think I like it better that way.  :)
True, probably a square of the lower part will do, too ...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 19, 2017, 04:25:03 pm
I brought something back from Paris for Rob :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 19, 2017, 06:53:01 pm
from last month
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on November 20, 2017, 03:49:08 am
Some more of the "sofa"

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on November 20, 2017, 05:05:31 am
Envy?

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 20, 2017, 07:28:55 am
I brought something back from Paris for Rob :)

Like I need a scooter!

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 20, 2017, 07:33:20 am
Envy?


Nah, she's just disappointed by the legs. The hair makes up for it - maybe?

Is that a "sexist" observation, and if so, why would truth be considered a negative trait?

Like I often think, so many unanswerables in my life.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Michael West on November 20, 2017, 03:45:13 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4576/24290153038_1cb35442c9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 20, 2017, 09:38:37 pm
Trying a new technique, a mix of blur and realism.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Landscape-Impressions/i-d4MCqtP/0/b7ec282e/M/Madawaska%20131%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 20, 2017, 11:49:28 pm
New technique # 387 in the catalog of John R New Techniques???
It works.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on November 21, 2017, 04:47:51 am
Whatever the technique, the results are more than pleasant!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 21, 2017, 08:39:09 am
Ah, a classic vehicle :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 21, 2017, 12:14:08 pm
Ah, a classic vehicle :)

Cheers!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RobMacKillop on November 21, 2017, 01:22:53 pm
Hi folks. This is my first upload here.This was taken yesterday. Fuji X-T20, 16-50mm, processed in Photoshop Elements 11 and Nik Silver. The leaves are half submerged in rain water and mud. Beautiful  :)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4532/38520172422_8b54560a16_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21FTXeQ) (https://flic.kr/p/21FTXeQ)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on November 21, 2017, 02:06:27 pm
I'd say, very November.
;-)
 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on November 21, 2017, 02:06:38 pm
Hi folks. This is my first upload here.This was taken yesterday. Fuji X-T20, 16-50mm, processed in Photoshop Elements 11 and Nik Silver. The leaves are half submerged in rain water and mud. Beautiful  :)

Welcome! Jolly good start.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RobMacKillop on November 21, 2017, 02:27:31 pm
Yup, very November. Cheers, gents.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on November 21, 2017, 02:42:46 pm
And one November-Photo from me as well ... not as good, yours is really beautiful.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RobMacKillop on November 21, 2017, 03:16:35 pm
Well, I like yours a lot. Self Service, indeed. It makes me wonder who works there. You, perhaps?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 21, 2017, 03:34:09 pm
Hi folks. This is my first upload here.This was taken yesterday. Fuji X-T20, 16-50mm, processed in Photoshop Elements 11 and Nik Silver. The leaves are half submerged in rain water and mud. Beautiful  :)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4532/38520172422_8b54560a16_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21FTXeQ)
 (https://flic.kr/p/21FTXeQ)

Welcome!

I like your mood - sadly, it just reminded me I have to think of buying some Christmas cards, something I find futile but expected of me. So many obligations in life, so much wasted effort about so little, when all that matters is what's really in the heart. Oh well... guess it's tribal.

:-)

Rob C
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RobMacKillop on November 21, 2017, 03:43:04 pm
Christmas again?! I thought we had Christmas last year...

Cheers, Rob. BTW, nice name.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 21, 2017, 04:00:49 pm
Christmas again?! I thought we had Christmas last year...

Cheers, Rob. BTW, nice name.

Rob

What did you expect? You had to know my mother. She was always a bit neurotic about Christmas too, but heaven help me if I forgot a card! But once bitten, I never did it again. She was an amazing woman, and I owe her a lot - thanks to her I got dragged around wartime art galleries as a kid and it rubbed off on me very strongly; never turned into much of an artist, but the love was created, which I suppose is what she intended.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 21, 2017, 09:33:39 pm
Hi folks. This is my first upload here.This was taken yesterday. Fuji X-T20, 16-50mm, processed in Photoshop Elements 11 and Nik Silver. The leaves are half submerged in rain water and mud. Beautiful  :)

I very much like how you brought out the tones, especially highlight areas. I have read that Nik or Topaz can help a lot with BW imagery.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Alskoj on November 21, 2017, 09:41:38 pm
Hi folks. This is my first upload here.This was taken yesterday. Fuji X-T20, 16-50mm, processed in Photoshop Elements 11 and Nik Silver. The leaves are half submerged in rain water and mud. Beautiful  :)

Very nice image.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RobMacKillop on November 22, 2017, 02:40:56 am
Thanks guys. Yes, Nik Silver, now owned by Google and available for free, is worth a look at. There are many filters, which can be further edited in many subtle or unsubtle ways. I just use it occasionally, as only some images benefit from it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on November 22, 2017, 09:35:02 am
Have you thought of submitting to "Lenswork" publication ?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 22, 2017, 09:38:55 am
Welcome! Jolly good start.

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RobMacKillop on November 22, 2017, 10:17:33 am
Have you thought of submitting to "Lenswork" publication ?

No. Never thought of submitting work anywhere, and have never heard of Lenswork. I'm very much an amateur. Thanks for the implication that it might be worthy of publication!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Bruce Cox on November 22, 2017, 04:04:04 pm
I am taken with Bar Van.  We don't have them quite like that in Texas. 

It seems a long lesson in history and design, as well as a modest but fetching object of desire.  All without making me feeling I necessarily need a drink.

Bruce
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 23, 2017, 08:06:16 pm
A waxing Moon for Thanksgiving.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RobMacKillop on November 24, 2017, 05:28:35 am
Nice, somewhat poetic image, Dave.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 24, 2017, 07:50:55 am
I am taken with Bar Van.  We don't have them quite like that in Texas. 

It seems a long lesson in history and design, as well as a modest but fetching object of desire.  All without making me feeling I necessarily need a drink.

Bruce


We seldom have them like this in Mallorca, either: this is the first one I've seen. On the other hand, neither do we have Cadillacs with horns sitting proudly up front: we are hardly permitted bull-bars, either, so I would trade opportunities on that one. In fact, if I remember properly, those bars were banned in the U.K. because they were tougher than the bodies they might contact at 70 miles per hour, even though plastic would prove just as terminal..

Politics is all about appearances, satisfying the casual observer who can't be bothered to think further than the info supplied.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on November 24, 2017, 02:48:31 pm
I am taken with Bar Van.  We don't have them quite like that in Texas. 

It seems a long lesson in history and design, as well as a modest but fetching object of desire.  All without making me feeling I necessarily need a drink.

Bruce

It's a very famous vehicle in France, it was part of the post-WW2 reconstruction. It was the French Kombi, en effet...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_H_Van
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Post by: Telecaster on November 24, 2017, 05:13:31 pm
From this afternoon’s park walk. ‘Twas ~50°F but the lake still had a veneer of ice.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on November 25, 2017, 08:08:42 am
It's a very famous vehicle in France, it was part of the post-WW2 reconstruction. It was the French Kombi, en effet...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_H_Van


Thanks for the info re. the van; the old Alfa I snapped was there on the same day along with some original Jeeps, probably pinched from the military and hidden until it ceased to matter. Oh these Mediterranean customs... !
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 25, 2017, 04:17:46 pm

Thanks for the info re. the van; the old Alfa I snapped was there on the same day along with some original Jeeps, probably pinched from the military and hidden until it ceased to matter. Oh these Mediterranean customs... !

That article led me to read the one on the Kombi (officially "Volkswagen Type 2"... Type 1 was the beatle, it was before marketing...) which led me to the chicken tax:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

(in case you weren't sufficiently cynical about politics).

Anyway, passing cars:
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Post by: Rob C on November 25, 2017, 05:17:20 pm
That article led me to read the one on the Kombi (officially "Volkswagen Type 2"... Type 1 was the beatle, it was before marketing...) which led me to the chicken tax:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

(in case you weren't sufficiently cynical about politics).

Anyway, passing cars:

Big jugs?

;-)

Rob

P.S. My first thought was Leiter; I had another browse through our Lindbergh last night, and almost snapped both ankles when, as I almost nodded off, the tome slid from the protecting pillow on my lap and hit my pins. It's hard getting up off a couch quickly later in life. No, I don't like his images any the more, yet; in fact I think he actually cultivates ugly as a style. He seems to have done so much less with Claudia Schiffer, who at least has a tamed Bardotishness about her, than with the Kristen Macsomebody to whom I have never felt close in my soul. It's a German mystery, a master-race secret, no doubt. Can one say that safely? I'm sure Leica must agree - works for them, the mystery, I mean.
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 26, 2017, 05:39:57 am
I guess it depends on what one considers "ugly", which so far as make-up and clothing goes is probably subject to conditioning. I have a more grungy aesthetic and I'd take Linda Evangelista with a bit of grime over any number of plastered and rendered plastic women in immaculate clothes.

I think he's trying for the "off guard" look, ie the real woman behind the performance.... hence showing us the mechanics of the backdrop and so on. Completely fake of course.

The cigarettes annoy me deeply though: I know the fag companies slip zillions under the table to directors willing to have sympathetic characters in their films suck on cancer sticks, so I wonder if he was getting a pay off from Amatil et al?

Yesterday, again:
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Post by: Riaan van Wyk on November 26, 2017, 06:21:11 am
Sunday morning, was looking for my cleanest dirty shirt to stumble down the stairs with and saw this when I finished scratching in the bedroom cupboard.
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 26, 2017, 06:34:58 am
Ah, Sunday mornings can be good :) And heading up to the southern hemisphere summer, too...
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Post by: Rob C on November 26, 2017, 08:49:11 am
I guess it depends on what one considers "ugly", which so far as make-up and clothing goes is probably subject to conditioning. I have a more grungy aesthetic and I'd take Linda Evangelista with a bit of grime over any number of plastered and rendered plastic women in immaculate clothes.

I think he's trying for the "off guard" look, ie the real woman behind the performance.... hence showing us the mechanics of the backdrop and so on. Completely fake of course.

The cigarettes annoy me deeply though: I know the fag companies slip zillions under the table to directors willing to have sympathetic characters in their films suck on cancer sticks, so I wonder if he was getting a pay off from Amatil et al?

Yesterday, again:

Now that's tight framing!

Yes, Evangelista sure was a chameleon, but perhaps that was the influence of Italian Vogue and Steven Meisel.

I smoked until the death from throat cancer of my wife's uncle; I was thirty when I quit - I hope it wasn't too late. Wish I'd never started; smoking whilst printing led to one mother load of spotting!

Just as well coffee tastes fine when cold; just realised that typing has let that happen yet again.

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 27, 2017, 08:15:28 am
(Don't quote me on this, but smoking until you're 40 doesn't change your risk much. problem is, very few people are able to stop...)
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Post by: petermfiore on November 27, 2017, 12:07:56 pm
Just as well coffee tastes fine when cold; just realised that typing has let that happen yet again.

Rob

Cold coffee in the studio is a welcomed occurrence...equals a great day's progress. In the event of a bad day, the coffee has been known to hit the canvas.

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on November 27, 2017, 02:37:00 pm
Cold coffee in the studio is a welcomed occurrence...equals a great day's progress. In the event of a bad day, the coffee has been known to hit the canvas.

Peter


I wonder if that's why I smoked a lot in the darkroom? Having a lino floor, spilled coffee could have had me slip and break my neck, which might have pleased some, but not the client for whom I was in that room in the first place. I think drinks are better suited for the studio. On the other hand, that had a Lino surface too, so no, smoking was safer.

Would you believe it? Just writing this has given me a flash of sore throat! Where's the coffee?

;-)

Rob
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Post by: farbschlurf on November 27, 2017, 02:50:29 pm
In the process to tidy my archives (call me Sisyphus, as I won't get it done ever) I came across this older picture. Still like the stage like character.

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Post by: Telecaster on November 27, 2017, 04:47:47 pm
I love cold press coffee when the weather is warm. (Cold press is a variant of cold brew but made with a French Press.) Very little bitterness.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on November 28, 2017, 04:36:41 am
I love cold press coffee when the weather is warm. (Cold press is a variant of cold brew but made with a French Press.) Very little bitterness.

-Dave-

No bitterness in mine at all: powder, Nescafé Classic Descafeinado (Con aroma a café recién molido) with a little milk - never any sugar.

I used to use Italian espresso things - double aluminium jars with a compartment between top and bottom sections for the ground coffe beans, but as with so much in life, not worth the hassle for one person. Both my mother and Ann's mother were good cooks: after being widowed neither seemed to cook anything again beyond subsistence level food. I understand completely, though I did not, and would chide them for neglecting themselves.

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 28, 2017, 08:20:20 am
I came across this older picture. Still like the stage like character.

Now I'm obsessed: is that a horse or a cow off to the right, and what is it doing?
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Post by: degrub on November 28, 2017, 08:26:47 am
looks like a brace of horses to my eye.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 28, 2017, 08:28:06 am
Now I'm obsessed: is that a horse or a cow off to the right, and what is it doing?

Siamese-twins horse(s)?  ;)
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Post by: Rob C on November 28, 2017, 10:55:55 am
Siamese-twins horse(s)?  ;)


Don't be naïve, Slobodan: attempted bonding, obviously.

Rob
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Post by: Telecaster on November 28, 2017, 05:29:13 pm
Had a lovely afternoon at the park. Temp ~60°F, though it tumbles back to the normal low 40s tomorrow. I used a just-acquired Leitz 90/4 Elmar, the kinda/sorta rare three-element version made from 1964–68. When I was a kid my dad had this same version for a few years before moving it on, I think to his ‘tog friend Ben. “Too long for me,” he later said when I asked him about it. He was a diehard 50mm guy. Anyway, I still have his “rigid” Summicron along with a replacement for the rarely used 35/2.8 Summaron pilfered in a house break-in decades ago…and now the Elmar completes the set!

-Dave-
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Post by: JNB_Rare on November 29, 2017, 09:22:44 am
The End is Nigh... and also thigh high.
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Post by: Telecaster on November 29, 2017, 04:10:18 pm
I presume the shop window “models” are the three guys in the photo within the photo after some months of reduced but not yet dissolved circumstances.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on November 29, 2017, 04:21:50 pm
The shop used to be a newsagent's base, where he went after being hoofed out of his original spot in the main square in order to make way for a café run by a family with far deeper pockets and many more businesses.

He was eventually displaced from this site (in the snap) by another firm running a wine bar venture. This ran for some years and then gave way to this rag shop. I'm not sure whether this is just a "sale" or a winding up venture... I should know by Easter when the town wakes up again. If this one stays snoring, then the truth will out...

The newspaper seller? He's still business, but a second-string shop, a book store that he ran, also went dodo hunting and has been a clothes emporium for some time. Culture? Maybe the pearls.

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 29, 2017, 04:45:34 pm
I used to use Italian espresso things - double aluminium jars with a compartment between top and bottom sections for the ground coffe beans,

Il biglietto, non ?

I actually like the ritual of making the coffee more than drinking it, I think... so I have an Italian all manual espresso machine and a grinder. Wastes at least 10 minutes of my morning in an enjoyable way. At work though it's the dreaded (copy of a)nespresso capsule.

This one has no relation to coffee
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 29, 2017, 04:46:24 pm
... whereas this one does.
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Post by: Rob C on November 29, 2017, 05:00:41 pm
... whereas this one does.

I hate that you have so many options!

I really need to go somewhere else with people...

;-)

Rob


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Post by: Rob C on November 29, 2017, 05:43:11 pm
Il biglietto, non ?

I actually like the ritual of making the coffee more than drinking it, I think... so I have an Italian all manual espresso machine and a grinder. Wastes at least 10 minutes of my morning in an enjoyable way. At work though it's the dreaded (copy of a)nespresso capsule.

This one has no relation to coffee


No, not the ticket at all! My natural suspicion always had me think that yes, this was the day that the thing would explode and kill me. We bought a stainless steel version by another maker and used that for some years, mainly because of the bad vibes attached to aluminium and food consumption. But all in all, without my better-half to enjoy it with me, it seems too much bother for what it's worth, especially the coffee powder packets which used to last me too long. Dow Egbert or something like that. We used to enjoy a locally ground one, but the little company that did the grinding and packaging vanished... progress.

Nescafé is not too bad once you get used to it; much like anything, really. But I get my café coffees out of their Italianate machines... nothing like the home stuff - ever. Can't beat a good big 'un.
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Post by: armand on November 29, 2017, 06:48:20 pm
in the park
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Post by: Telecaster on November 30, 2017, 12:29:13 am
I only found one leaf during my park walk yesterday.  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: GrahamBy on November 30, 2017, 03:24:54 am
I only found one leaf during my park walk yesterday.  :)

-Dave-

... a very fine one, though :)
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Post by: JNB_Rare on November 30, 2017, 09:16:36 am
I only found one leaf during my park walk yesterday.  :)

-Dave-

Lovely image.

I can contribute if your park needs a few more. This year we had someone else rake our fall leaves. In the past, I've collected over 100 bags of them off our "lawn". Around here, other people take them away even before the town pickup. Some use the leaf-filled bags as extra winter insulation around the base of their homes. One gent takes lots of bags to compost on his Christmas tree farm. I tried to float the "rake your own" idea (like the U-Pick berry farms), but no one was interested.  :)
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Post by: JNB_Rare on November 30, 2017, 09:23:41 am
I usually walk the local trails, but sometimes my wife and I drive to the ocean (20-30 minutes) for a morning walk.  This is Green Bay (Nova Scotia), on a blustery day. The light kept changing, and the waves were mesmerizing as always.
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Post by: Bruce Cox on November 30, 2017, 09:36:05 am
The waves are still mesmerizing, even after traveling the internet.

Bruce
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Post by: Rob C on November 30, 2017, 10:42:03 am
I usually walk the local trails, but sometimes my wife and drive to the ocean (20-30 minutes) for a morning walk.  This is Green Bay (Nova Scotia), on a blustery day. The light kept changing, and the waves were mesmerizing as always.

Strange, the rocks in the black/white: they have the appearance of wet coal! I like that shot a lot.

Rob
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Post by: Bruce Cox on November 30, 2017, 11:45:20 am
Thien Hau Temple
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Post by: Telecaster on November 30, 2017, 04:36:22 pm
Strange, the rocks in the black/white: they have the appearance of wet coal! I like that shot a lot.

Me too!

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on November 30, 2017, 04:42:34 pm
Speaking of leaves, my maple trees still have lotsa dead ones left. They’re usually down by now. Then again everything has been a little late weather-wise this year.

-Dave-
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Post by: JNB_Rare on November 30, 2017, 11:50:02 pm
Speaking of leaves, my maple trees still have lotsa dead ones left. They’re usually down by now. Then again everything has been a little late weather-wise this year.

-Dave-

Here, autumn has lasted longer than usual, yet not as colourful as most years. A few leaves hang on in the deciduous trees, but it's looking like early December for sure. This was shot in rain that became snow overnight, but it didn't last.
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Post by: Rob C on December 01, 2017, 02:53:14 pm
I remarked recently about an attempt to do a snatched snap using the iPad (at least, I think it was here that I was on that topic); my point was that it was far too wide-angled a lens the device uses. In the snap, the subject was no more than about two feet or so away, outside a widow with myself inside, looking out.

This crop is about an eighth of the frame - stupidly, when I got it into the computer, I immediately cropped it to suit what I'd had in mind, and naturally, hoofed it out of the iPad too, so I can no longer refer back to the original. However, I suppose that what it may show is that in extremis, it isn't a total loss, though the cellphone would be far more discreet! Nonetheless, far too close for comfort or reasonable perspective.

The lashes are very crisp in the original.
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Post by: Telecaster on December 01, 2017, 08:39:16 pm
Yes, the iPad lens is on the wide (though not wild) side: ~75° diagonally in the native 4:3 aspect ratio. Same with iPhone standard lenses. (Newer models have a second, longer lens as well.) Much like a 28mm lens in the now Really Big “full frame” format. I’d use my phone cam a lot more if it were in the 35–40mm equiv. range.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on December 01, 2017, 08:45:02 pm
Here, autumn has lasted longer than usual, yet not as colourful as most years. A few leaves hang on in the deciduous trees, but it's looking like early December for sure. This was shot in rain that became snow overnight, but it didn't last.

Here’s one from this afternoon’s park walk. Could well be snow covered a week from today if the weather forecast holds up (as it nearly always does now).

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on December 02, 2017, 04:12:31 am
Here’s one from this afternoon’s park walk. Could well be snow covered a week from today if the weather forecast holds up (as it nearly always does now).

-Dave-

Is hunting allowed near that trail?

;-)

Rob
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Post by: petermfiore on December 02, 2017, 09:47:56 am
Is hunting allowed near that trail?

;-)

Rob

Hi Rob,
While I don't know about that trail. The trails that I frequent do allow hunting. The alarming part is that hunters often shoot across trails.
Sections of the trails that bend and switchback on themselves in various places...a hunter hears movement and takes blind shot. Not uncommon. I wear bright red and talk very loudly on parts of the joint use trails. But I do avoid opening day scenarios.

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on December 02, 2017, 09:57:46 am
Hi Rob,
While I don't know about that trail. The trails that I frequent do allow hunting. The alarming part is that hunters often shoot across trails.
Sections of the trails that bend and switchback on themselves in various places...a hunter hears movement and takes blind shot. Not uncommon. I wear bright red and talk very loudly on parts of the joint use trails. But I do avoid opening day scenarios.

Peter


Heysoos, Peter! Wear red and they'll think you a red deer! Or even Santa.

;-)

Rob
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 02, 2017, 10:44:38 am
.. The trails that I frequent do allow hunting. The alarming part is that hunters often shoot across trails.
Sections of the trails that bend and switchback on themselves in various places...a hunter hears movement and takes blind shot. Not uncommon....

https://nypost.com/2017/11/24/hunter-fatally-shot-woman-he-thought-was-a-deer-cops/
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Post by: Rob C on December 02, 2017, 02:06:31 pm
You are what you eat.
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Post by: Telecaster on December 02, 2017, 04:23:54 pm
Is hunting allowed near that trail?

;-)

Not as a rule, but there have been whitetail (deer) culls in the past due to overpopulation. It was bad c. 2003–4. On some trails you’d regularly find yourself negotiating deer traffic, and park vegetation was suffering. But this is private land and regular ol’ hunting is verboten. Nowadays close-range deer encounters are rare. This one (attached pic, from a few months ago) is about the closest I’ve been to a young buck in ~14 years. (Earlier in this thread are a pair of even closer pics of the same youngster. M9, 90mm lens.)

-Dave-
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Post by: JNB_Rare on December 02, 2017, 07:57:45 pm
A different place for a walk today. Heavy overcast with a cold, damp wind led to some interpretative processing.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 02, 2017, 08:53:46 pm
Fall foliage has been miserable in Massachusetts this year.
Here are a couple of minimalist fall foliage fotos.

-Eric
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Post by: JNB_Rare on December 02, 2017, 10:08:40 pm
Fall foliage has been miserable in Massachusetts this year.
Here are a couple of minimalist fall foliage fotos.

-Eric

I like the simplicity of the 2nd one.
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Post by: Telecaster on December 02, 2017, 10:16:22 pm
Fall foliage has been miserable in Massachusetts this year.
Here are a couple of minimalist fall foliage fotos.

I like! On my walk four days ago I had a pine cones on pine needles photo arranged, on the trail, and was in the process of focusing my lens when a couple ladies strolled past, lost in conversation. One of ‘em booted both cones out of place. “I think you messed up this man’s photo.” “Oh…did I? Sorreee…” In the moment I was so miffed I gave each cone another kick and then walked on.  :D

-Dave-
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 02, 2017, 11:20:08 pm
Thanks, JNB and Dave.

And Dave: You might want to hire a couple of armed guards to keep the old ladies out of camera range.   ;)

Eric
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Post by: John R on December 03, 2017, 12:55:12 am
It's nice to be be able to go on stroll in any park and just stop now and then and take a photo. No pressure. However my wife would dispute that I ever go on walk without contemplating photography.

John, I really like the sheep image. PP sets them apart and creates a nice ambiance.

Eric, nice set. You got the "glow."

Dave, your story had me in stitches. Because I feel great sympathy, I am attaching a guard "dog" for you. Well sort of. Just print him out and place him where you don't want people to go near. He even has laser eyes.

JR

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Post by: Bruce Cox on December 03, 2017, 09:24:23 am
I like the simplicity of the 2nd one.

+1

Bruce
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Post by: Telecaster on December 03, 2017, 03:30:19 pm
Dave, your story had me in stitches. Because I feel great sympathy, I am attaching a guard "dog" for you. Well sort of. Just print him out and place him where you don't want people to go near. He even has laser eyes.

Hah! Thanks. Very Vegas.  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: 32BT on December 04, 2017, 07:03:26 am
The local art committee has decided on an American Dream theme for the coming months. The local museum is running American Realist painters and we even have an interpretation of a Statue of Liberty. The sculptor has decided on a beggar/fugitive variation if I'm not mistaken, not particularly original if true.

I always wondered what was with the latest trend in photography shooting directly into the sun. Especially with shadows lifted to normal daylight levels. Probably EVFs and live view makes it simple to do. idk. Like we ever are able to look straight into the sun, unless of course, we are a US president, which brings us right back to the theme I suppose.

But in this case I was quite content with the acronym for Statue of Liberty. Layers of meaning:

"SoL"


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Post by: Rob C on December 04, 2017, 07:09:37 am
The local art committee has decided on an American Dream theme for the coming months. The local museum is running American Realist painters and we even have an interpretation of a Statue of Liberty. The sculptor has decided on a beggar/fugitive variation if I'm not mistaken, not particularly original if true.

I always wondered what was with the latest trend in photography shooting directly into the sun. Especially with shadows lifted to normal daylight levels. Probably EVFs and live view makes it simple to do. idk. Like we ever are able to look straight into the sun, unless of course, we are a US president, which brings us right back to the theme I suppose.

But in this case I was quite content with the acronym for Statue of Liberty. Layers of meaning:

"SoL"


You don't need no narrative, Oscar, your photographs are eloquent enough!

Rob
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 04, 2017, 07:44:10 am
... Like we ever are able to look straight into the sun...

I've been doing it all my life, just like gazillions of other humans... what's the big deal?
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 04, 2017, 09:08:28 am
I went to Toulouse on the weekend. I expected it would be warmer than Lyon, but it was snowing on Saturday morning... so I felt jealous of the hot-house in the Jardin des Plantes...
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 04, 2017, 09:09:45 am
Outside, the only folk looking relaxed were made of stone...
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 04, 2017, 10:19:56 am
"SoL"
Good shot, Oscar, even if you sold your soul to the Sol and the SoL to get it.  ;)
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Post by: Rob C on December 04, 2017, 02:16:43 pm
Outsode, the only folk looking relaxed were made of stone...

Wait until the political correctnesses get into power: all that disgusting muted grunting will be stopped, once and for all. In public, for heaven's sake! Enough to frighten the horses, is that. Off with their heads!

Rob
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Post by: Telecaster on December 04, 2017, 05:57:31 pm
At the park this afternoon even the trees & vines were getting into it.  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 05, 2017, 05:32:50 am
Finally, I went inside to wait for the train.
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 05, 2017, 09:12:34 am
Emergence...

Ha, yes :)

What was that about lack of total control someone wrote somewhere? ;)
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Post by: Telecaster on December 05, 2017, 03:49:40 pm
Employing my favorite cinema aspect ratio.

-Dave-
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 05, 2017, 08:16:50 pm
Verizon Wireless in the Wilderness
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Post by: John R on December 06, 2017, 01:01:53 am
Verizon Wireless in the Wilderness
Neat Eric. Who's calling? I can still hear something in that empty field. This reminds me of why I finally bought a cell phone.  I would grab some tissues and fight through the cob webs and lift the receiver only to hear dead silence. Another time the phone machine took my last two quarters but would not process the call. The operator came on and wanted my credit card number for 50 cents!!!!!!  I slammed the phone on the powerful steel hook, but it was solid and would never break. Instead, as my friends always remind me, I broke down and bought a cell phone. Se la Vie.

JR
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Post by: John R on December 06, 2017, 11:44:40 am
"A voice was chanting, As the fog was lifting." (W. Guthrie) Guess I heard it.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Hilton-Falls/i-zcnbn89/0/001f9983/M/JMRO4954%20Dec%204-%202017%20Terra%20Cotta%20copy1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Hilton-Falls/i-kGxs4F4/0/b45d0843/M/JMRO4973%20Dec%204-%202017%20Terra%20Cotta%20copy1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Hilton-Falls/i-ShrG62K/0/a2e4a9e7/M/JMRO4978%20Dec%204-%202017-%20Terra%20Cotta%20bwcopy-1000-M.jpg)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 06, 2017, 01:25:57 pm
Love the title, Rob.
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 06, 2017, 02:05:36 pm
Poly Leaving, at least. But maybe he'll come around again...
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Post by: Rob C on December 06, 2017, 02:09:32 pm
Love the title, Rob.

:-)

Rob
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Post by: Rob C on December 06, 2017, 02:12:23 pm
Poly Leaving, at least. But maybe he'll come around again...

Let's hope not! Bad enough getting ordinary flu at this time of year.

Like your shot - that movement next to the woman in red makes it for me.

Rob
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Post by: JNB_Rare on December 06, 2017, 08:27:50 pm
In the Shadows. Originally shot 12 years ago. Reinterpreted on this rainy day.
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Post by: Rob C on December 07, 2017, 08:03:04 am
In the Shadows. Originally shot 12 years ago. Reinterpreted on this rainy day.


Funny thing: I have learned to enjoy rainy days again. Not only is the light more kindly, the incentive to cheer up the self makes my mind turn to photography. Not that it ever goes anywhere much else anymore, but you probably know what I mean. So-called shitty weather makes images assume a different character that is far more interesting than solid blue up top, with the commercially inspired token white cloud. When I was still working, my wife and I referred to those as Tony Stone skies.

Rob
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Post by: petermfiore on December 07, 2017, 09:13:47 am

Funny thing: I have learned to enjoy rainy days again. Not only is the light more kindly, the incentive to cheer up the self makes my mind turn to photography. Not that it ever goes anywhere much else anymore, but you probably know what I mean. So-called shitty weather makes images assume a different character that is far more interesting than solid blue up top, with the commercially inspired token white cloud. When I was still working, my wife and I referred to those as Tony Stone skies.

Rob
Rob,
It's my favorite light...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 07, 2017, 10:05:39 am
Rob,
It's my favorite light...


And you have made good use of it, too. Can hardly wait to move back to a city.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 07, 2017, 12:43:56 pm

And you have made good use of it, too. Can hardly wait to move back to a city.

Rob

You have city plans...in the near future?

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 07, 2017, 02:22:43 pm
You have city plans...in the near future?

Peter

Have had them for a couple of years, but they depend totally on the sale of my apartment, which is never an easy thing to do these days, because most of the stuff up here in the north of the island will be bought by folks seeking holiday summer homes, a majority of such buyers being non-Spanish nationals. It's pretty much exclusively a holiday area with very little other industry to support demand and provide the money with which to purchase. There are plenty of young people with desires, but not the loot with which to do it, a huge problem in Southern Europe as a whole, as far as I can determine.

Rob
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Post by: petermfiore on December 07, 2017, 03:29:50 pm
Have had them for a couple of years, but they depend totally on the sale of my apartment, which is never an easy thing to do these days, because most of the stuff up here in the north of the island will be bought by folks seeking holiday summer homes, a majority of such buyers being non-Spanish nationals. It's pretty much exclusively a holiday area with very little other industry to support demand and provide the money with which to purchase. There are plenty of young people with desires, but not the loot with which to do it, a huge problem in Southern Europe as a whole, as far as I can determine.

Rob
In a perfect world, what city would be your escape?

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 07, 2017, 03:44:55 pm
In a perfect world, what city would be your escape?

Peter

Rome.

Next, perhaps Milan, but I remember nothing about it except fog. However, the potential must be good! Cannes had a lot of good-looking women, so perhaps that would feed the camera's appetite for pulchritude.

That perfect world would also, of course, have to include a perfect bank account, or I may as well just stay where I am.

Rob
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Post by: petermfiore on December 07, 2017, 04:28:27 pm
Rome.

Next, perhaps Milan, but I remember nothing about it except fog. However, the potential must be good! Cannes had a lot of good-looking women, so perhaps that would feed the camera's appetite for pulchritude.

That perfect world would also, of course, have to include a perfect bank account, or I may as well just stay where I am.

Rob
Rome I like very much...I have cousins that live in Milan, so not there. Sort of kidding.
Perfect bank account. Would that be a bank account where the balance never shrinks? That would be perfect!!
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Post by: muntanela on December 07, 2017, 07:07:20 pm
Nothing like Naples, it is a historical miracle, an Unicum.
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Post by: farbschlurf on December 08, 2017, 02:06:09 pm
Trying to cope with the dull light typical for the season, around here.

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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 08, 2017, 03:28:11 pm
Nice mood.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 09, 2017, 08:58:49 am
Lovely, Rob, just lovely. The colors, composition, mood..., in-focus and out-of-focus, straight on and reflected. Perhaps a literary equivalent would be... stream of consciousness? Or am I too reflective this morning?
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Post by: KLaban on December 09, 2017, 09:43:54 am
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3176_orig.jpg)

Rob

Image border apart, absolutely wonderful!
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Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2017, 10:22:58 am
Lovely, Rob, just lovely. The colors, composition, mood..., in-focus and out-of-focus, straight on and reflected. Perhaps a literary equivalent would be... stream of consciousness? Or am I too reflective this morning?

Thank you, Slobodan; after a certain age most of us end up with consciousness being the only real, unbroken stream we can manage - rather do we end up with incessant, minor, nocturnal tributaries.

;-(

Rob
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Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2017, 10:24:49 am
Image border apart, absolutely wonderful!


Thanks, Keith, but look: if I didn't use distressed borders, how would anyone know I was really advanced, and into digital?

;-)

Rob
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Post by: John R on December 09, 2017, 10:27:55 am
Thank you, Slobodan; after a certain age most of us end up with consciousness being the only real, unbroken stream we can manage - rather do we end up with incessant, minor, nocturnal tributaries.

;-(

Rob
You can't fool me, those are dancing spirits.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2017, 10:28:49 am
You can't fool me, those are dancing spirits.

JR

Water sprites?

Rob
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Post by: KLaban on December 09, 2017, 10:33:43 am

Thanks, Keith, but look: if I didn't use distressed borders, how would anyone know I was really advanced, and into digital?

;-)

Rob

Hi Rob, just ignore me, I didn't even like genuine notched Hasselblad borders!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 09, 2017, 12:30:49 pm
I do remember filing out negative carriers to "Make Art Images"...they were so much better.

  : ) 

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2017, 12:38:11 pm
Hi Rob, just ignore me, I didn't even like genuine notched Hasselblad borders!

;-)


OMG! And to think that I even went to the trouble and great expense of making artificial ones for genuine, digital Hassyfakes!

Whatever became of them, I wonder? Probably gone walkabout with Missie Coke...

:-)

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 09, 2017, 03:17:05 pm
(Vigil)

Rob

Gorgeous!
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 09, 2017, 03:19:39 pm
Meanwhile, my favourite jongleuse was back, and it was the Fête des Lumières...

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Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2017, 04:10:33 pm
Gorgeous!


Thanks; it's one that I shot a few days ago and forgot. That's the trouble with life: unless things get done right away there's always the chance they don't get done at all. If it hadn't been pissing down, I might never have gone back into the folder...

The 'Pad shows a lock symbol (on YouTube) so perhaps that's why I can't copy/paste, but give a whirl to:

"Neil Sedaka I waited too long" just type that in, and it comes up.

Your friend with the clubs: carrying a deadly weapon in the street?

Rob
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Post by: KLaban on December 09, 2017, 04:13:45 pm
Quote from: Rob C link=topic=118771.msg1015827#msg1015827


(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3200_1_orig.jpg)

Hell, Rob, you're on a roll.

Beautiful.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 09, 2017, 04:24:06 pm
Hell, Rob, you're on a roll.

Beautiful.
Absolutely!
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Post by: Telecaster on December 09, 2017, 05:36:41 pm
First snow of the season. I always wish it wouldn't come, but once it does I kinda enjoy it. For a week or so anyway.  ;)  When I was a teenager my pal Patty & I would go crosscountry skiing after each decent snowfall in a state park not far from where I go trail walking now. Over time we got pretty darn good at it too. We're still pals, though these days we live far apart, and part of our thing is exchanging winter photos.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2017, 05:43:53 pm
Roll: thanks - so was the girl. Quite oblivious to everything but her machine. From when she came in, had her drink, to when she departed, she couldn't have spoken more than two sentences (short!) to her companions.

I suppose that had this been a camera, one of those screens that fold down would have been rather handy. Especially if focussing by touching the screen. Heresy! As it is, the iPad does have the advantage of not looking threatening, especially when I am connected to the darn thing with 'phones. If anything, I suppose that I come over as the vulnerable one.

:-)

Rob
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Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2017, 05:45:45 pm
First snow of the season. I always wish it wouldn't come, but once it does I kinda enjoy it. For a week or so anyway.  ;)  When I was a teenager my pal Patty & I would go crosscountry skiing after each decent snowfall in a state park not far from where I go trail walking now. Over time we got pretty darn good at it too. We're still pals, though these days we live far apart, and part of our thing is exchanging winter photos.

-Dave-

Like the graphics one on top!

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 10, 2017, 07:58:13 am
Roll: thanks - so was the girl. Quite oblivious to everything but her machine.

Fortunately, some maintain human contact :)
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 10, 2017, 07:59:41 am
And anyway, only two weeks to Christmas and everything that goes with it :)
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Post by: 32BT on December 10, 2017, 09:20:05 am
Since we have a lunch theme going: this was at lunch, couldn't see who it was that deserved such undivided attention which i thought would be interesting to capture. Not a cellphone in sight at that table, unlike other tables btw which, oddly enough, primarily featured older women showing off the grandchildren to eachother or something. At the table next to me they finally stowed their phones at one point, only to finish up an leave.

If you want your kids to use a cellphone responsibly, set a decent example, i say. Like giving somebody your "undivided attention"...
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 10, 2017, 12:39:37 pm
The cell phone discussion reminds me of a couple of my own shots, that I probably posted somewhere on LuLa before.

In the first, three people are actually reading books on a bench in New York.

Then five minutes later, same bench...
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Post by: Rob C on December 10, 2017, 01:19:17 pm
The answers' clear, Eric: they saw you snapping as they held their decoy books, and then pulled out their cellphones to catch you next time! It's clearly a social game.

There are eyes everywhere!

:-)

Rob
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 10, 2017, 01:54:17 pm
But one of the three didn't realize she had timed out on her book.
Is it partly a gender thing?   ;)

Eric
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 10, 2017, 02:42:30 pm
The passing parade...
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 10, 2017, 04:43:03 pm
You've got a great eye, Graham.

Eric
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 11, 2017, 05:57:02 pm
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3178_orig.jpg)

Rob
Nice. (But I still miss Ms. Coke.   ;)  )

Eric
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Post by: Rob C on December 12, 2017, 04:30:38 am
Nice. (But I still miss Ms. Coke.   ;)  )

Eric

Tell you what, Eric: I'll get her a new dress and see where we can go to renew our old collaboration, but beware: old models may have developed new friends! I don't want to face that glassy stare at the wrong moment.

However, that said, perhaps dedicating a few hours to her on the iPad camera will fool her somewhat, rekindle a sentimental streak she may still retain! Truth to tell, she sits behind me whenever I'm at the computer, a silent critic of everything else she sees.

Rob
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 12, 2017, 08:46:25 am
Tell you what, Eric: I'll get her a new dress and see where we can go to renew our old collaboration, but beware: old models may have developed new friends! I don't want to face that glassy stare at the wrong moment.

However, that said, perhaps dedicating a few hours to her on the iPad camera will fool her somewhat, rekindle a sentimental streak she may still retain! Truth to tell, she sits behind me whenever I'm at the computer, a silent critic of everything else she sees.

Rob
Definitely worth a try, Rob.

Eric
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Post by: Rob C on December 12, 2017, 11:16:03 am
Definitely worth a try, Rob.

Eric

Well, there's something putrid in the state of.

I shot a couple of snaps on the iPad today, but for some reason they won't fly across to my computer.

I get the picture into the iPad's Photos gallery, click on it, see the box with the upwards arrow, click it, put in my e-mail address and click SEND. Zilch. It's been woking okay so far - witness the girl with her cellphone to her ear - but today - zero. I sent myself an e-mail from the computer to check it's working, and that got through... perhaps it's Nikon laying down the law and demanding I use their product again for this stuff, and that I stop flirting with the apples! I definitely saw no snakes.

Maybe there's a moral there about convenience, laziness etc. But lunch was good, anyway.

There may even be some security plot working in the Windows computer to distance Apple products, stop them getting in! Nothing would surpise me anymore. It's the age in which we live.

;-(

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 13, 2017, 03:29:18 pm
Further to the problems above: finally, found a burst of messages arriving into the PC! No idea what changed. Anyway.

(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3201_orig.jpg)

;-)

Rob

...I sea what you due their!!

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on December 13, 2017, 04:27:38 pm
...I sea what you due their!!

Peter

It keeps me alive, Peter!

:-) or maybe that should be :-(

But anyway, it does let that iPad work for its weight!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 14, 2017, 08:41:08 am
It's good to see that the genes carry the talent.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 14, 2017, 08:57:17 am
I wonder... a thread called "The Leiter Side of Life"?
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Post by: francois on December 14, 2017, 09:22:21 am
It's good to see that the genes carry the talent.

Eric
Surprising but this is the ultimate proof!
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Post by: degrub on December 14, 2017, 12:44:04 pm
I wonder... a thread called "The Leiter Side of Life"?

Is that an Idle moment question ?
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Post by: farbschlurf on December 14, 2017, 01:30:44 pm
.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 14, 2017, 02:24:26 pm
It's good to see that the genes carry the talent.

Eric


That's harsh: I don't believe my wife even knew Leiter! In any of the senses. I was far too careful to give her cause for vengeance - I think.

Seriously, though, I think she might have made a good job of it - my daughter - as fashion photographer; a least she'd have had a good idea what it entailed. Maybe that was the trouble! Knowing too much can prevent mistakes... what's that thing about the sins of the father being visited upon the sons?

But she made her own way, had her family, got both girls through university and into good prospects, and that's what counts at the end of it all. Not that it's the end yet, I trust!

Rob
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Post by: Rob C on December 14, 2017, 02:30:26 pm
Surprising but this is the ultimate proof!

I choose to see that as a compliment, for which I thank you; quite how my daughter might react to the idea she may have too much of me in her makeup may be something quite else!

:-)

Rob
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Post by: 32BT on December 14, 2017, 03:36:47 pm

That's harsh: I don't believe my wife even knew Leiter! In any of the senses. I was far too careful to give her cause for vengeance - I think.

Seriously, though, I think she might have made a good job of it - my daughter - as fashion photographer; a least she'd have had a good idea what it entailed. Maybe that was the trouble! Knowing too much can prevent mistakes... what's that thing about the sins of the father being visited upon the sons?

But she made her own way, had her family, got both girls through university and into good prospects, and that's what counts at the end of it all. Not that it's the end yet, I trust!

Rob

Dear god i should hope not. Leiter would be the first to roll over...

;-(
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Post by: 32BT on December 14, 2017, 03:39:17 pm
"Vandalism"
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 14, 2017, 03:56:50 pm
The cell phone discussion reminds me of a couple of my own shots, that I probably posted somewhere on LuLa before.

In the first, three people are actually reading books on a bench in New York.

Then five minutes later, same bench...

Hmm, would make an interesting triptych with a final picture showing an empty bench...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 14, 2017, 04:13:21 pm
Lovely, Rob, just lovely. The colors, composition, mood..., in-focus and out-of-focus, straight on and reflected. Perhaps a literary equivalent would be... stream of consciousness? Or am I too reflective this morning?

Speaking of literary equivalent, we have an author here who wrote a book called "stream of consciousness" which is several hundred pages of his thoughts void of punctuation and allineation. Unreadable and incomprehensible of course, which makes one wonder whether it should be called "stream of unconsciousness" or subconsciousness, depending on your believesystem whereby the latter might be a better fit for that experiment or Rob's picture for that matter...
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Post by: Rob C on December 14, 2017, 04:43:35 pm
"Vandalism"

Which just goes to prove that plastic bags are not all bad: one over the seat (of the bike, of course - but I don't know...) would have made it safe to drive away. Two more, one over each handgrip, and total European winter comfort!

Nice sense about it; you can hear the silence snow brings.

Rob
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Post by: 32BT on December 14, 2017, 05:14:55 pm
Which just goes to prove that plastic bags are not all bad: one over the seat (of the bike, of course - but I don't know...) would have made it safe to drive away. Two more, one over each handgrip, and total European winter comfort!

Nice sense about it; you can hear the silence snow brings.

Rob

I think neither of these bikes will go anywhere safely under normal configuration, regardless of snow or plastic bags, but I admit that even I had to look twice before I got that. It was however the reason for stopping to take a picture despite that it was still snowing. I couldn't quite figure out why the foreground bike was still there.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on December 14, 2017, 08:38:56 pm
Barbie's head was spinning...
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 14, 2017, 08:40:05 pm
Hmm, would make an interesting triptych with a final picture showing an empty bench...
I'll try to capture that bench the next time I'm in New York. Thanks for the idea.

Eric
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 14, 2017, 08:41:38 pm
Barbie's head was spinning...
Wow! What is she on?
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Post by: Rob C on December 15, 2017, 04:35:37 am
I think neither of these bikes will go anywhere safely under normal configuration, regardless of snow or plastic bags, but I admit that even I had to look twice before I got that. It was however the reason for stopping to take a picture despite that it was still snowing. I couldn't quite figure out why the foreground bike was still there.


Ah! There appears to be a break in the frame just where the bottom of the V meets the drive/pedal stucture. Nothing like snow to provide perfect camouflage! Doping, obviously.

;-)

Rob
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Post by: Rob C on December 15, 2017, 04:37:16 am
Wow! What is she on?

Spokes: it's the new thing.

Did Saul ride a bike?

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 15, 2017, 05:27:58 am
Speaking of literary equivalent, we have an author here who wrote a book called "stream of consciousness" which is several hundred pages of his thoughts void of punctuation and allineation. Unreadable and incomprehensible of course, which makes one wonder whether it should be called "stream of unconsciousness" or subconsciousness, depending on your believesystem whereby the latter might be a better fit for that experiment or Rob's picture for that matter...

Which reminds me of the book on "Grammar for the time traveller" described in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy... since no-one could actually read more than a few pages, "later editions were printed with the remainder of the pages left blank, to save printing costs".

Ah yes, Chapter 15 of The Restaurant at the End of the Universe:

"The major problem is simply one of grammar, and the main work to consult in this matter is Dr. Dan Streetmentioner's Time Traveler's Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations. It will tell you, for instance, how to describe something that was about to happen to you in the past before you avoided it by time-jumping forward two days in order to avoid it. The event will be descibed differently according to whether you are talking about it from the standpoint of your own natural time, from a time in the further future, or a time in the further past and is futher complicated by the possibility of conducting conversations while you are actually traveling from one time to another with the intention of becoming your own mother or father.

Most readers get as far as the Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional before giving up; and in fact in later aditions of the book all pages beyond this point have been left blank to save on printing costs."
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Post by: GrahamBy on December 15, 2017, 05:31:55 am
I adore the bike photo, btw, dislocated bottom-bracket or not.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on December 15, 2017, 08:07:31 am
Wow! What is she on?

An overdose of a-CYCLO-vir. (Sorry – just couldn't help myself)
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Post by: 32BT on December 15, 2017, 11:51:48 am
Think of it as coca-cola red, if it wasn't for Sony's interpretation of that color. To stay in theme and flow of coke and bikes. Coke and bikes, because Barbie must have gone high on something.
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Post by: 32BT on December 15, 2017, 11:56:22 am
Which reminds me of the book on "Grammar for the time traveller" described in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy...

One day i'm going to buy an old jaguar for a roadtrip, vanity plates read "don't panic", cautionary words to the self or other drivers, don't know yet. But first i'll need to figure out how to move the couch out of the stairway...
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Post by: Rob C on December 15, 2017, 02:04:01 pm
Think of it as coca-cola red, if it wasn't for Sony's interpretation of that color. To stay in theme and flow of coke and bikes. Coke and bikes, because Barbie must have gone high on something.


Great graphics!

Rob
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Post by: Telecaster on December 15, 2017, 02:56:18 pm
The Friedlander thread reminded me of the attached iPhone pic, from a few years ago. For a month or so c. early 2000 I kept my Contax IIa hanging around my neck while driving and ended up with some pics I liked. But I stopped after photographing an accident and realizing I was likely being careless enough to cause one.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on December 15, 2017, 03:57:31 pm
The Friedlander thread reminded me of the attached iPhone pic, from a few years ago. For a month or so c. early 2000 I kept my Contax IIa hanging around my neck while driving and ended up with some pics I liked. But I stopped after photographing an accident and realizing I was likely being careless enough to cause one.

-Dave-

It's funny how one thing leads to another; my Coke shot this a.m. must have been directly influenced by the same source, yet I always felt that my pro life was not influenced much by other people, if only because their situations were inevitably different to mine, and so were the people with whom I interconnected through work. I wonder, now, whether had I ever had the pleasure of a shoot with Shrimpton or Twiggy I'd have felt a pull to ape Bailey or Lategan? An interesting question, to me. Would it have been possible to ignore the iconic-in-their-time images we all knew so well?
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 15, 2017, 04:55:06 pm
From this morning's iPad exercise.

Very poor ergonomics: half the time, as I went from verical to horizontal (with gloves off, I might add), the video would switch itself on and confuse both the issue and myself. Changing from snap to vid should be accident-proof. God knows how folks with huge hands would manage; they'd probably find themselves changing the focus point at the same time, too. The Shoot! button should be on the side, out of the way.

(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3202_1_orig.jpg)

Rob
Ah, it is good to see the old girl back and braving the storm.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 15, 2017, 05:08:06 pm
Ah, it is good to see the old girl back and braving the storm.

Eric

Eric, we were both so cold I thought she was going to crack. But, she got through it bravely, and I had to promise to take her out more often. The things we have to do!

Rob

P.S. The white horse now takes her carrots straight from my palm! I feel a sense of real accomplishment and, oddly, sentimentality! Who'd a thunk? I love a horse? And all so quickly?
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Post by: JNB_Rare on December 15, 2017, 10:56:59 pm
Think of it as coca-cola red, if it wasn't for Sony's interpretation of that color. To stay in theme and flow of coke and bikes. Coke and bikes, because Barbie must have gone high on something.

Coke and bikes: Two very nice pics... and such a lovely bicycle. Not like this monstrosity. But I liked the light.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 15, 2017, 11:09:02 pm
Keeping with the bike theme: a vandal tries his hand at 'art'.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 15, 2017, 11:59:51 pm
Keeping with the bike theme: a vandal tries his hand at 'art'.
Not bad art. I sometimes considered doing something like that to my bike, but I gave it up completely about when I hit 70 (years, not MPH.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 16, 2017, 05:00:31 am
Coke and bikes: Two very nice pics... and such a lovely bicycle. Not like this monstrosity. But I liked the light.


Lovely light in that shot - happens now and again. Trick is catching it, as you have here, at the same time as having a subject. Methinks it would have suited Charis Weston perfectly - though perhaps best off the bike...

Are those official bike-parking devices? Never seen them like that before.

Light not very pretty this a.m. - well,  was in bed so can't really tell, but had hail two hours ago and some still lies in the shade. My first thought was the car - had ever single one of them here damaged by hailstones. No point in gping out to see - what may have been has or has not been.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 16, 2017, 05:05:57 am
Not bad art. I sometimes considered doing something like that to my bike, but I gave it up completely about when I hit 70 (years, not MPH.)

What was wrong with 70? Were it not for inconvenience of parking one, I might buy into it again. Numbers were better the lower they were. No, I wouldn't buy a bike today. Walking is more strenuous - no temptation to coast - so much better for me. Anyway, on a bike, I'd never have met my new best friend, the horse.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 16, 2017, 09:03:46 am
Viva la Coke!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 16, 2017, 09:26:48 am
Are those official bike-parking devices? Never seen them like that before.

Yes – I'm not sure of their origin, but I've seen them in several Canadian cities. Of course some think they could be prettier.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 16, 2017, 11:06:45 am
Coke and bikes: Two very nice pics... and such a lovely bicycle. Not like this monstrosity. But I liked the light.

Considering the shapes and patterns of the shading, and the shadow cast by the bicyclestands, this one might have worked just as well without the bike. Nicely processed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 16, 2017, 11:08:10 am
Keeping with the bike theme: a vandal tries his hand at 'art'.

I sure hope this "artproject" is in no way related to the previous picture...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 16, 2017, 11:23:49 am
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3203_orig.jpg)

Rob

How come these modern cars kill the mood? Or is it just me?

Seems a bit like the other day, i was driving with someone when Eurythmics' "it's all right" came on the radio and she mentioned that the music of that era was so different than todays. She couldn't explain it, she said, but she could feel it in her body.

I later realized that yes, todays music is more about "aggression" than it is about "happiness" with all of the rap/mob culture etc. So it would follow naturally that it just induces aggression in the body as well, if you suffer that particular kinesthetic synesthesia.

It's also with modern car design, totally aimed at a more aggressive disposition. Just look at the frontface of currentday bmw and audi. They used to call those ringlights "angel eyes" but they primarily look like very, very, angry hawkeyes today with the added led-strings.


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 16, 2017, 11:25:21 am
Viva la Coke!

Indeed, and I'm surprised she looks so calm.

I'd just sat down, and was adjusting the various bits of paraphernalia that accompany me through my life, and the chap wandered over with my coffee - always have the same sort, made as soon as they see me wandering in - and he picked her up as if she was just any old emptied bottle he'd forotten to clear away! My protestations were kinda loud as I informed him she was a model! Naturally, I was under oblique client observation the entire time I sat there... Oh well, that's the life of the artist - always a suspect for not quite sure what.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 16, 2017, 11:42:38 am
How come these modern cars kill the mood? Or is it just me?

Seems a bit like the other day, i was driving with someone when Eurythmics' "it's all right" came on the radio and she mentioned that the music of that era was so different than todays. She couldn't explain it, she said, but she could feel it in her body.

I later realized that yes, todays music is more about "aggression" than it is about "happiness" with all of the rap/mob culture etc. So it would follow naturally that it just induces aggression in the body as well, if you suffer that particular kinesthetic synesthesia.

It's also with modern car design, totally aimed at a more aggressive disposition. Just look at the frontface of currentday bmw and audi. They used to call those ringlights "angel eyes" but they primarily look like very, very, angry hawkeyes today with the added led-strings.

Yeah, they have a negative effect on many parts of life.

I don't really see modern cars as aggressive: ever since the advent of the European Ford Sierra that was around at the start of the 80s, I have felt that they have become blancmange, shaped like upturned baths (especially in white) or jelly moulds. The most ridiculous one is the Porsche utility - quick brick if ever there was one.

There was one General genius: Harley Earl.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley_Earl

The Italians were - and probably still are - different: flawed geniuses. Beauty wedded to disastrous dependibility. Italian electronics? I can't remember the number of wet mornings my two Fiats and Alfa left me fuming, and having another cup of tea instead of going anywhere.

But yeah, it's difficult doing 40s/50s New York in Puerto Pollensa in 2017. Even if the folks could transpose quite well.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 16, 2017, 11:51:17 am
Indeed, and I'm surprised she looks so calm.

I'd just sat down, and was adjusting the various bits of paraphernalia that accompany me through my life, and the chap wandered over with my coffee - always have the same sort, made as soon as they see me wandering in - and he picked her up as if she was just any old emptied bottle he'd forotten to clear away! My protestations were kinda loud as I informed him she was a model! Naturally, I was under oblique client observation the entire time I sat there... Oh well, that's the life of the artist - always a suspect for not quite sure what.

;-)

Rob

Senility?

I soooooo imagine them whispering to eachother: just let him be, he's a retired old artsyfartsy type and his only companion is a white horse...
;-p
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 16, 2017, 01:01:59 pm
Senility?

I soooooo imagine them whispering to eachother: just let him be, he's a retired old artsyfartsy type and his only companion is a white horse...



I wonder if they'd know that the whisky brand ran ads and posters telling us all that you could take a white horse anywhere? Probably before their time...

This one is not the other one, as was said about a pipe.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 16, 2017, 02:28:04 pm
Sunset cruise basketball:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on December 16, 2017, 03:01:43 pm
Sunset cruise basketball:

Cool photo!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 16, 2017, 03:16:26 pm
Most of the popular pickup trucks in the US have aggressive, snarly looking front grills. Get out of my way! (Subtext: Please stay away…I'm afraid.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on December 16, 2017, 03:30:44 pm
Sunset cruise basketball:
Thats almost incredible. Wow.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 16, 2017, 03:52:25 pm
Cool photo!

+1 !

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 17, 2017, 08:52:00 am
Sunset cruise basketball:

Awesome shot, and so much nicer than a cruise missile.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 17, 2017, 09:06:22 am
Not winter in Colorado, but damp, cold and generally unpleasant. Unless it's a sunny day, when you forgive it its other face. Until nightfall. When you freeze again.
Rob

Another impeccably composed shot, Rob. Here, we just got our first "real" snowfall of the season (i.e. the snow has lasted more than 24 hours). Our rhododendrons' leaves are curled so tight they look positively spikey. Which means it's c-c-cold outside. Oh, well. Just add another layer (of clothes).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 17, 2017, 11:05:10 am
Another impeccably composed shot, Rob. Here, we just got our first "real" snowfall of the season (i.e. the snow has lasted more than 24 hours). Our rhododendrons' leaves are curled so tight they look positively spikey. Which means it's c-c-cold outside. Oh, well. Just add another layer (of clothes).

Thanks, John, it did sort of fall into place as most of these things tend to do. Perhaps it's what attracts us to something in the first instance. I suspect that our eyes are ahead of our minds, quite often.

By the way, I tried to enter your website just now, and on clicking to "read more", I get an Amazon ad that won't go away. This is on the iPad - may be different on the PC.

That's an amazing texture you have on that rock formation on the opening page - one could almost touch it!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 17, 2017, 02:09:52 pm
Laying low and walking tall... Havana, Cuba:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 17, 2017, 03:59:43 pm
Thanks, John, it did sort of fall into place as most of these things tend to do. Perhaps it's what attracts us to something in the first instance. I suspect that our eyes are ahead of our minds, quite often.

By the way, I tried to enter your website just now, and on clicking to "read more", I get an Amazon ad that won't go away. This is on the iPad - may be different on the PC.

That's an amazing texture you have on that rock formation on the opening page - one could almost touch it!

Rob

Ah, that website. I'm checking it out, and sometimes I get pushed somewhere else on the internet but, so far, not Amazon. Hitting the back arrow repeatedly gets me back to the home page and then everything works as normal for that session. All the Wordpress security doohickeys I installed think there's nothing wrong. I have a query into the web host, but haven't heard back. Thank God I don't depend on it for revenue. Still, I need to clear that up. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 17, 2017, 07:42:10 pm
Havana's pastel decay:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 17, 2017, 11:37:38 pm
Havana's pastel decay:

Now here's a place I'd like to visit. Not sure if I want to go now…or wait to see what it starts turning into post-Fidel, then go.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 18, 2017, 07:02:14 am
Now here's a place I'd like to visit. Not sure if I want to go now…or wait to see what it starts turning into post-Fidel, then go.

-Dave-

I'd wait until it joins the European Community and gets rebuilt...

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 18, 2017, 10:02:40 am
Now here's a place I'd like to visit. Not sure if I want to go now…or wait to see what it starts turning into post-Fidel, then go.

-Dave-

I've never been to Cuba, but it's been a favourite destination for Canadians for decades. And I've seen the same (basic) photographs from numerous photographers, now – a bit like Iceland and certain areas of the American southwest. Photo workshops all go to the same locations. Still, there must be lots of opportunity. Slobodan's images prove that – kudos to him for seeing something different.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on December 18, 2017, 10:51:34 am
Go before the Americans (i'm one) flood back in with a change in administration and it becomes just another commercial resort. It's appears to be not as impoverished and run down as what i experienced in  East Germany  back in the '80s from what my friends can tell me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on December 18, 2017, 11:44:52 am
Lyon had its first snow last night, and the 5cm threw the city into complete chaos as it does each time. No salt on the roads so the snow had packed down to ice by the time I put the knobby tyres on the bicycle and set off to work. I wasn't stylish but I stayed upright.

Sunday night, it was another Cynthia & Damien performance... they have now evolved from black paint to green paint to red lipstick, with added scissors. This time on a staircase in the foyer of  theatre, during intermission of a festival of French songs...

The photo is effectively monochrome: red at +30% saturation, orange at -30% and the rest at -100%. Almost all the light was coming from a tungsten spot over my left shoulder, but qhite a bit reflected back from the wall behind.

It's unfortunate that she made her face make-up darker than the rest of her body... but oh well. There are another 150 photos I need to pick through, last night I only picked out 5 and then crashed into my bed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 18, 2017, 02:34:39 pm
Lyon had its first snow last night, and the 5cm threw the city into complete chaos as it does each time. No salt on the roads so the snow had packed down to ice by the time I put the knobby tyres on the bicycle and set off to work. I wasn't stylish but I stayed upright.

Sunday night, it was another Cynthia & Damien performance... they have now evolved from black paint to green paint to red lipstick, with added scissors. This time on a staircase in the foyer of  theatre, during intermission of a festival of French songs...

The photo is effectively monochrome: red at +30% saturation, orange at -30% and the rest at -100%. Almost all the light was coming from a tungsten spot over my left shoulder, but qhite a bit reflected back from the wall behind.

It's unfortunate that she made her face make-up darker than the rest of her body... but oh well. There are another 150 photos I need to pick through, last night I only picked out 5 and then crashed into my bed.


Covered in paint?

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on December 18, 2017, 04:10:02 pm
Nah, olive oil... but that's another story :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 18, 2017, 05:06:14 pm
Nah, olive oil... but that's another story :)

Well lubricated, then?

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 18, 2017, 07:58:46 pm
As I said yesterday, we got our first "real" snowfall of the season recently. Unfortunately, the wind blew it out of the trees fairly quickly, so the scenes along the walking trail weren't very special. But I have to walk through town to get to the trail, and caught some sun and shadows at a local park.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 19, 2017, 03:33:50 pm
As I said yesterday, we got our first "real" snowfall of the season recently. Unfortunately, the wind blew it out of the trees fairly quickly, so the scenes along the walking trail weren't very special. But I have to walk through town to get to the trail, and caught some sun and shadows at a local park.

The best is often right under our nose...

Colour one for me.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 20, 2017, 02:36:06 pm
She doesn't believe it either, but that's what it says... makes you wonder.

Rob

She came in through the bathroom window
Protected by a silver spoon...
And though she tried her best to help me
She could steal but she could not rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 20, 2017, 02:37:45 pm
Ice in the rock cut.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 20, 2017, 02:55:21 pm
John, that's like an X-Ray of my feet, complete with ice.

Funny how badly one feels the cold out here in the Med; it isn't really that cold, statistically speaking, but it certainly is when you bring in dampness and wind chill and non-existent building insulation.

;-(

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 20, 2017, 02:58:13 pm
She came in through the bathroom window
Protected by a silver spoon...
And though she tried her best to help me
She could steal but she could not rob

Ah, those Beatles...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 20, 2017, 09:44:24 pm
John, that's like an X-Ray of my feet, complete with ice.

Funny how badly one feels the cold out here in the Med; it isn't really that cold, statistically speaking, but it certainly is when you bring in dampness and wind chill and non-existent building insulation.

;-(

Rob
It looks grisly to me. Like something about to rise and break free from its icy surroundings.

So I must lighten the mood and introduce my playful frog.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Hilton-Falls/i-K89t28q/0/0e95f1a7/M/JMRO5272%20frog1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 21, 2017, 09:40:04 am
These days the stuff all comes from the same factory, but waaaaaaay back in university this was considered sacrilege...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 21, 2017, 05:03:35 pm
When I reached drinking age (1978) for a time there was a store in my neighborhood that sold bottled Heineken imported "direct from Amsterdam," or so they claimed. It was certainly different than the domestically brewed version we could also get, though I no longer remember if I thought it was better.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 21, 2017, 06:06:55 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 22, 2017, 04:06:08 am

I wonder if they'd know that the whisky brand ran ads and posters telling us all that you could take a white horse anywhere?
Rob

True, you can take a white horse anywhere...but that never guaranteed he'll be served!!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 22, 2017, 04:24:09 am
True, you can take a white horse anywhere...but that never guaranteed he'll be served!!

Peter


He would be if he offered to buy a round for the whole bar, though: the other customers would insist.

On the other hand, if he were a she, who knows how many would try to serve.

Strange old world...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 22, 2017, 04:40:18 am

He would be if he offered to buy a round for the whole bar, though: the other customers would insist.

On the other hand, if he were a she, who knows how many would try to serve.

Strange old world...

The new world is strange and getting stranger by the nanosecond...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on December 22, 2017, 05:29:12 am
I couldn't resist re-configuring one of the Cynthia & Damien & Red Lipstick photos in B&W...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 22, 2017, 07:15:50 am
I think it works very well this way; she really, really gets into it, doesn't she? Would enjoy trying a few shots with her - the face promises many expressions. And she appears devoid of shyness. Which is cool.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 22, 2017, 08:45:41 am
I think it works very well this way; she really, really gets into it, doesn't she? Would enjoy trying a few shots with her - the face promises many expressions. And she appears devoid of shyness. Which is cool.

Rob
+1.

This is a fine series, Graham.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 22, 2017, 01:31:12 pm
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3212_orig.jpg)

I'm afraid this friend isn't from Italy... kinda shows in the expression.

;-)

Rob
I can see that Ms Coke is a very supportive type. Nice...

Peter
 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 22, 2017, 04:00:38 pm
I can see that Ms Coke is a very supportive type. Nice...

Peter
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on December 23, 2017, 05:33:06 am
………
I'm afraid this friend isn't from Italy... kinda shows in the expression.

;-)

Rob

Simply superb!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on December 23, 2017, 08:21:43 am
Simply superb!

What 'e said.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on December 23, 2017, 08:23:59 am
Another one...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on December 23, 2017, 08:29:48 am
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3212_orig.jpg)

I'm afraid this friend isn't from Italy... kinda shows in the expression.

;-)

Rob


Why not? Pulcinella can be very melancholic

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulcinella#/media/File:Eduardo_e_Pulcinella.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/54/d2/78/54d27834cb956163271b8170b8e91080.jpg
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 23, 2017, 09:04:13 am

Why not? Pulcinella can be very melancholic

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulcinella#/media/File:Eduardo_e_Pulcinella.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/54/d2/78/54d27834cb956163271b8170b8e91080.jpg

In this case, I know for a fact: this bird is English. She was a gift to my step-father from Pilkington Glass, a company with which he had been associated in his career...

Sorry, but unlike Sophia, not a trace of pasta in this one's boobs!

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 23, 2017, 09:19:16 am
To those of you who liked the shot, thank you very much!

In a way, it was a mistake: the light was typical Mallorcan winter, bright between clouds, just as landscape shooters have to contend with - or perhaps pray for? - and I thought I was on a 35mm optic which would have been bad enough, because by choice I'd have gone to the 105mm, but once I started I realised the damned thing was my 24mm, but I didn't want to miss the chance by digging out the boxes and changing lenses around. Lucky mistake, then!

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 23, 2017, 01:50:03 pm
To those of you who liked the shot, thank you very much!

In a way, it was a mistake: the light was typical Mallorcan winter, bright between clouds, just as landscape shooters have to contend with - or perhaps pray for? - and I thought I was on a 35mm optic which would have been bad enough, because by choice I'd have gone to the 105mm, but once I started I realised the damned thing was my 24mm, but I didn't want to miss the chance by digging out the boxes and changing lenses around. Lucky mistake, then!

:-)

Rob
I find often things that are not planned are great surprises...in my experience, however, not tax preparation.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 23, 2017, 02:30:35 pm
I find often things that are not planned are great surprises...in my experience, however, not tax preparation.

Peter

Yes, it's the only way to fly. Bailey said in an interview that if he was going to plan ahead, then he'd get somebody else to make the shot. I see what he meant. Pleasant surprises are what I think keeps us all doing this. The day it becomes mechanical is the day we have to lose interest or become mere machines.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 23, 2017, 04:22:12 pm
I agree completely.
Without surprises there'd be nothing to shoot (except maybe with a gun.)

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on December 23, 2017, 07:46:03 pm
In this case, I know for a fact: this bird is English. She was a gift to my step-father from Pilkington Glass, a company with which he had been associated in his career...

Sorry, but unlike Sophia, not a trace of pasta in this one's boobs!

:-)

Rob


The Puffin in italian  is called "Pulcinella di mare..."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Bruce Cox on December 24, 2017, 09:36:01 am
In the park yesterday.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 24, 2017, 10:08:10 pm
My pal Susan snapped this pic, and did the main processing in Affinity Photo too, just before I attempted some after-dinner guitar noodling. She likes jazzy stuff so as usual I bluffed as best I could: lotsa maj7 chords & such.  ;D  The guitar is an Ibanez AS50, a model made for a short time in the early 1980s. Amazing Maxon "Super 58" pickups, made only during the same time. Both guitar and pickups are prized by in-the-know jazzers. I got this one from such a fellow…he had two of 'em and let me pick the one I liked best.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 25, 2017, 03:58:05 pm
My pal Susan snapped this pic, and did the main processing in Affinity Photo too, just before I attempted some after-dinner guitar noodling. She likes jazzy stuff so as usual I bluffed as best I could: lotsa maj7 chords & such.  ;D  The guitar is an Ibanez AS50, a model made for a short time in the early 1980s. Amazing Maxon "Super 58" pickups, made only during the same time. Both guitar and pickups are prized by in-the-know jazzers. I got this one from such a fellow…he had two of 'em and let me pick the one I liked best.

-Dave-


Does she love you, really love you
Is she just stringin' you along...
Is the magic in the dinner 
Or is it only in that song?

Some unexpected strangeness for Christmas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETf1zrKk5W0

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 25, 2017, 04:09:00 pm
Cheer up, Ms.Coke. Rob will never abandon you.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 25, 2017, 04:46:07 pm
Christmas seems to really cheer my brittle little friend no end!
;-)

Very confrontational, for Christmas, that is...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 25, 2017, 05:23:33 pm
Very confrontational, for Christmas, that is...

Peter

Not really, Peter, she never listens to a thing I say and never, never looks at the Internet!

On the other hand, she gets really pissed off when I split infinitives, just as I did when I posted her image; no knowing what she'd do if she felt associated with something like that!

Eric, you know me very well; of course I can't abandon her - well, not right now, at any rate.

Regarding my other little friend, the one with four legs: I think we have been spied upon, because when I wandered down the road to feed her her carrots today, I realised somebody had put a second wire above the original electrical one, and she wouldn't reach over to take the things from my palm. I thought that a bit harsh - we have been very well-behaved and no liberties taken either way. But there you are - I must respect her boss's wishes and throw the things into the field instead of doing it the friendly way.

So much for the New Year - foiled already!

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on December 26, 2017, 04:59:20 am
Christmas seems to really cheer my brittle little friend no end!

;-)


Nice one, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on December 26, 2017, 05:00:46 am
Christmas Eve experiment
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 26, 2017, 08:56:35 am
Christmas Eve experiment
Cool!
Or should I say: Cool and Warm.
I like it.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 26, 2017, 10:32:16 am
Follows me everywhere...

Checkmate?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 26, 2017, 10:40:38 am
Checkmate?

Good one!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 26, 2017, 03:30:24 pm

Does she love you, really love you
Is she just stringin' you along...
Is the magic in the dinner 
Or is it only in that song?

Some unexpected strangeness for Christmas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETf1zrKk5W0

When it comes to the Bardot era Susan prefers Scandinavians: Anita Ekberg, Bibi Andersson and so on. Might be a subconscious ancestry bias thing as she claims not to care a bit about where her grandparents were born.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 27, 2017, 04:06:51 am
Aha! Norwegian Wood!?

Regarding famous women of the era: I was surprised to see BB could actually sing a song! I had always imagined her to be far too busy doing other things.

Carla Bruni also sings and accompanies herself on guitar; either of them, in their time, singing me a song of my choosing could have been more than pleasant, especially had I a camera to hand. Anything for my art!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M7K8twyeZA

Something completely different, and my favourite version of this number:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CUKmCfm1s

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 27, 2017, 11:52:11 am
Cellphone pano. When I try to get the same thing from the "regular" camera shots I have multiple stitching errors (in LR and Photoshop), go figure.

PS. I think the quality on this one is probably good enough for a pano print 10-13" high
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 27, 2017, 02:39:33 pm
That 'Pad again:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 27, 2017, 03:28:11 pm
Aha! Norwegian Wood!?

Susan does get the uniquely British meaning of fire.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 27, 2017, 03:36:25 pm
I tried a handful of stitched panos, mostly with my iPhone, on my recent holiday but none of 'em really panned out. (Sorry…) This one was with my little Panasonic GX8 and an Olympus 12/2 lens, processed in Affinity Photo. The software did its job very well.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on December 28, 2017, 09:26:42 am
The law of two elevenths (uncropped).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on December 28, 2017, 09:35:20 am

Some unexpected strangeness for Christmas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETf1zrKk5W0


Possibly a result of drinking tea with Serge.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 28, 2017, 10:02:40 am
The law of two elevenths (uncropped).

Nicely done. Very "less-is-more", including the toning. Would fit the minimalism thread as well.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 28, 2017, 10:28:23 am
Possibly a result of drinking tea with Serge.

Yes, it might explain the bout of gawkish, self-conscious twisting, but I often wonder what sort of blend Serge used to brew; he certainly drank a lot of it with many lovely ladies. I think Jeanloup also had a pot or two with BB but can't remember if that's true or just personal (mine) pangs of envy. Once you see one of those tea-meisters you get to sense them everywhere!

I just bought some more tea this afternoon, but as it's just bags, I don't suppose the mojo works - what can one expect, taking the lazy route?

Perhaps it's like photography: requires incentive. They used to sing: David Bailey takes tea twice daily. Of course, as one can imagine, he was up to his elbows in incentive.

;-(

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 28, 2017, 08:48:02 pm
Got my fav 90mm lens back today from a CLA + new 6-bit coded mount, and after taking a pass on some outdoor test snapping (too cold for December!) I settled for a guitar portrait. Use what you've got comfortably at hand… This is an early '70s Guild, one of my long-time workhorses. Lens and cameras are now in proper sync too.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 28, 2017, 08:50:13 pm
The law of two elevenths (uncropped).
Keen eye there, Mr Graham.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 29, 2017, 05:47:50 am
Got my fav 90mm lens back today from a CLA + new 6-bit coded mount, and after taking a pass on some outdoor test snapping (too cold for December!) I settled for a guitar portrait. Use what you've got comfortably at hand… This is an early '70s Guild, one of my long-time workhorses. Lens and cameras are now in proper sync too.

-Dave-

Thanks - makes me think of this, quite suitable for the time of year (I like the chair shot better than the Keeler one):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_1zZ8Xx64

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on December 29, 2017, 08:32:34 am
I have made peace with the fact that I can't "see" compositions for people/ model photography, every time I pick up a camera to do "serious" or considered attempts with the Blonde it ends up in nothing. But the cellphone is always handy for when walking into a composition like when I saw this as I walked past her in a doorway.


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 29, 2017, 10:07:38 am
Seeing the snowy news about Glasgow today made me wonder if once-regular poster, stamper, has been out there making Leiteresque shots of red brollies in the snow... I would have braved the cold and even wet feet to do that! I think.

Turns out we had a wildfire a couple of nights ago, just a short distance from home; neither heard nor saw a damned thing! Magnum needs me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJPK5ZiJsS0

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on December 29, 2017, 01:32:48 pm
wet

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 29, 2017, 03:00:26 pm
wet


Nice one! Wish I could find city lights again. This time, I'd think of using them, not shutting the door on them and putting my feet up. Not that I put my feet up on anything: hated people who put them up on tables or other chairs. Anyway, my wife would have wordlessly handed man a duster and some polish, and left the room.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 29, 2017, 05:05:23 pm
I have made peace with the fact that I can't "see" compositions for people/ model photography, every time I pick up a camera to do "serious" or considered attempts with the Blonde it ends up in nothing. But the cellphone is always handy for when walking into a composition like when I saw this as I walked past her in a doorway.
That shot tempts me to get a cell phone.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on December 29, 2017, 10:01:05 pm
~not even cold dampens the spirits this evening...a small tip of cognac seals the deal~ahh, onions, fond de boeuf, and gruyere~ let it blow, let it blow, let it blow...😋
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 29, 2017, 10:23:07 pm
~not even cold dampens the spirits this evening...a small tip of cognac seals the deal~ahh, onions, fond de boeuf, and gruyere~ let it blow, let it blow, let it blow...😋
Yum!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 29, 2017, 11:39:54 pm
Yum!
So here I am looking at the Patricia's food once again. Eric likes it for sure. So warm and inviting on these cold bleak wintery days. But today was great. Only -7 celsius, the sun wrestling with the clouds produced a fine bright, soft wintry day. Wish I could have gone out. I have decided to include one warm image and one "blue" image. It was literally blue all over, so I decided to correct only one half, leave it abstract, with no features in the white.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Caledon-Badlands-20142015/i-nGMBTkj/0/afa9992b/M/Jan%204-%202014%20Badlands-%20Bellfountain%20013%20copy1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Caledon-Badlands-20142015/i-mqPw8VX/0/27dcd1f3/M/Jan%204-%202014%20Badlands-%20Bellfountain%20038%20copycrop-1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 30, 2017, 12:28:10 am
~not even cold dampens the spirits this evening...a small tip of cognac seals the deal~ahh, onions, fond de boeuf, and gruyere~ let it blow, let it blow, let it blow...😋

I'll have a shot of tequila with my helping, please.  :D  Yum fer sher!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on December 30, 2017, 04:05:13 am

Nice one! Wish I could find city lights again.
Rob
Thank you. Funny thing is, after more than 15 years here, I lost the eye for many "city things" a bit, eventually. You know, if something stops to be new it's hard to maintain a fresh look or even get attracted to something that could be worth it. Sometimes I find myself thinking "what the heck are they shooting there" when I pass by a group of tourists obviously excited about something I actually don't "see" anymore ... Still don't have a trick to bypass this behavior ...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 30, 2017, 07:06:27 am
Thank you. Funny thing is, after more than 15 years here, I lost the eye for many "city things" a bit, eventually. You know, if something stops to be new it's hard to maintain a fresh look or even get attracted to something that could be worth it. Sometimes I find myself thinking "what the heck are they shooting there" when I pass by a group of tourists obviously excited about something I actually don't "see" anymore ... Still don't have a trick to bypass this behavior ...

Despite what clients used to think, travelling to new locations was not all about getting one's jollies, but about getting enthusiasm worked right up to 11 so that you could use what you had researched to the maximum.

Your city ennui is exactly what 37 years of Mallorca has left me nursing: I just can't see it anymore. I know that's crazy, because for a while it was magical for me - though I also know a lot of the magic was imaginary, that it was newness trumping reality. But then it represented a lot more than living on location, as it were, it was also a paradise for two people who suddenly found the time to be together 24/24/365+ instead of just meeting to eat, watch some tv, deal with the two kids and go to bed. That new life was never going to work the wrong way.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on December 30, 2017, 07:45:07 am
(abstract, with no features in the white.)
John,
This deserves a home of its own! Pool of chromatic grey on a Chinese inkstone.
So much is flooding my mind with this. Headed off island to farmers market for the weeks greens. To be 25 negative in the North Woods tonight, negative 5-20 for the rest of us...I wake each morning thankful to be surrounded by the sea, but the flows from the pole~well I'm still alive for the experience... More on that second of your two images on return... Not to covet is how I try to live but this one dangles temptation~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on December 31, 2017, 01:47:14 pm
John~

I am exerting all my efforts from this point forward in my reply not to become longwinded or boring with "insights". Yet, this one has taken hold, your Chinese inkstone debarkation.
I arrive at this point after many dream charged nights triggered by a work going through a second self editing... the place I go amid wake sleep deserts me at the precipice of a leap into a boundless "space", no waypoints, ceilings, walls, height, perceivable depth. Until at once again fully awake I am unable to participate in the decisions.

Some time ago I suggested that Lula friends might consider a trip to the Guggenheim or CA for an exhibit of the studies in Light by James Turrell. I was able to see that two of my grandchildren made it to Guggenheim on one of my visits. At the time I really did want to see through their eyes and perception what for them acquired reality. I took care not to mar them with any pre-information or opinion...just, "it might be fun to stop in here to see what's happening " in between the two shows with which  I had lured them.

The results were wildly satisfying as I watched notion upon notion obliterated with new realities. (as in watching as one found himself walking THROUGH what he had determined to be a wall which he had been offered the opportunity to "touch" for "temperature".)

How lucky am I to share their eyes and brain workings! Because the work that had been coming together then is now sorted across an upper floor, adjusted at no particular times during the day and night my dreams have become exceptionally vivid with this vast destination to which I travel in semi sleep/wake.

Your image snapped me to attention with an almost mystical secret jolt. I spread it large across a sun blinding white wall at the end of my studio...it became more so. All this coupled with the murmuring voice of an Indian climber being dragged frozen down Everest a year after his death there. (My mother-in-law too has been repeating to me, "don't let them kill me, I'm not dead yet", though I was there in her final days).

I have very little say about the workings within this skull, truth be known, most seem to take place in a vast swirl out of its bounds.

What I am trying to say here John, is that you have something quite amazing here. Don't allow it to go missing. Just off in the upper right quadrant is a passage to unknown, yet to be experienced, but holding an exceptional waiting light~

Perhaps I should apologize, but just can not. Thank you for sharing it. Lumine!!

(edited for punctuation)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 01, 2018, 03:47:53 am
~nearer the sun.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 01, 2018, 09:08:27 am
Not much warmth from that sun ... yet.
But wait a few months.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 01, 2018, 03:38:06 pm
That snap was actually moonrise last night through the double glass doors, couldn't make myself brave the trip away from fire (coincidently reflected in the glass) . I watched the temp move from -4 at 5am down the ramp to -8 at 6am, then curiously a steady climb back up afterward. By late breakfast a toasty 3. There was enugh heat remaining in the chimney (a very massive and tall one) surprisingly that the last coals were coddled in the ash bed allowing the fire to pop right back to going about its wonderful Rumford back radiance. Sweetness!

aside, source EarthSky:



Tonight – January 2, 2018 – we reach Earth’s closest point to the sun for this entire year at 11:35 p.m. CST (central U.S.). It’ll be the morning of January 3 for Europe and Africa … later in the day January 3 for the rest of the world (January 3 at 5:35 UTC; translate to your time zone). Astronomers call this special point in our orbit perihelion, from the Greek roots peri meaning near and helios meaning sun.

Source: Fred Espenak’s Earth at perihelion and aphelion, 2001 to 2100

On January 3, 2018, Earth at its closest point swings to within 91,401,983 miles (147,097,233 km) of the sun. That’s in contrast to six months from now, when the Earth reaches aphelion – its most distant point – on July 6, 2018. Then we’ll be 94,507,803 miles (152,095,566 km) from the sun.

In other words, Earth is about 3 million miles (5 million km) closer to the sun in early January than it is in early July. That’s always the case. Earth is closest to the sun every year in early January, when it’s winter for the Northern Hemisphere.

We’re farthest away from the sun in early July, during our Northern Hemisphere summer
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 01, 2018, 05:14:57 pm
In other words, Earth is about 3 million miles (5 million km) closer to the sun in early January than it is in early July. That’s always the case. Earth is closest to the sun every year in early January, when it’s winter for the Northern Hemisphere.

We’re farthest away from the sun in early July, during our Northern Hemisphere summer

This is in part why winters in the Antarctic tend to be colder than in the Arctic.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 02, 2018, 04:58:06 am
This is in part why winters in the Antarctic tend to be colder than in the Arctic.

-Dave-

Blame the bears or the penguins, or both!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 02, 2018, 04:32:19 pm
Not Cherbourg. No umbrellas.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 04, 2018, 11:43:56 am
Found an old, real contact sheet amongst some digital test prints that I was consigning to the tender mercies of the rubbish collectors. Whenever I find myself doing these household chores I get images of cash machines behind my eyes; I'm all for printless photography! Anyway, I copìed the sheet and amused myself for a little while, which is better than cutting my toenails, which I did the other day.

It was quite a difficult stretch, trying to cut; almost gave myself a hernia when I suddenly remembered that there was a time I could put my ankle behind my head.

(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3218_orig.jpg)

For the technically minded: Nikkor 3.5/135 on a Nikon F or F2 with FP3 or FP4 - can't remember when they changed, and D76 1+1.

;-(

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 05, 2018, 04:39:48 pm
Part of my morning routine involves a cup of coffee and a playing session with this gizmo (attached pic). Especially useful for limbering up fingers in cold weather. I dial up a new sound every handful of mornings and then often tweak it over the following days before starting over again. No presets…pure WYSIWYG. The pic is a heavily-cropped trial run at riffing on a Moog promo I saw online. Haven't gotten around to a "proper" version yet (wider lens at closer range).

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 05, 2018, 04:44:20 pm
Found an old, real contact sheet amongst some digital test prints that I was consigning to the tender mercies of the rubbish collectors.

Last evening I tried convincing one of my neighbor's kids to pose with a water pistol and a menacing grimace, but she wasn't having it.   :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on January 05, 2018, 05:34:16 pm
Part of my morning routine involves a cup of coffee and a playing session with this gizmo (attached pic). Especially useful for limbering up fingers in cold weather. I dial up a new sound every handful of mornings and then often tweak it over the following days before starting over again. No presets…pure WYSIWYG. The pic is a heavily-cropped trial run at riffing on a Moog promo I saw online. Haven't gotten around to a "proper" version yet (wider lens at closer range).

-Dave-

Soooo much better than a guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUM8gFyLqo
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on January 05, 2018, 07:45:30 pm
Soooo much better than a guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUM8gFyLqo

Not long before Kingsley's famous pop Moog tune was Wendy Carlos (Switched On Bach) and Dick Hyman, of course. I still remember the first time I heard The Minotaur (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuv5gNRVbQ). For most of my generation, however, it was Emerson, Lake and Palmer who really brought the sound to the airwaves in a big way. I think "Lucky Man" was released as a single in 1970 and re-released in '73.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 06, 2018, 04:23:15 am
Last evening I tried convincing one of my neighbor's kids to pose with a water pistol and a menacing grimace, but she wasn't having it.   :D

-Dave-

Buy her a Klein book and get her to bring along a friend...

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Bruce Cox on January 06, 2018, 09:52:39 am
That's framing.

That's it's here and it's gone.

That's a flat mountain.

Bruce
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 06, 2018, 01:49:45 pm
La jongleuse... Jozette Margarette Seinecke-Bock.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 06, 2018, 04:06:08 pm
Soooo much better than a guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUM8gFyLqo

Hah, hadn't heard Popcorn in ages.  :)  Didn't even know it had been covered so much.

The Emerson, Lake & Palmer song that stuck in my ear as a teenager was From The Beginning. Also features a catchy Moog solo at the end.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 06, 2018, 11:06:02 pm
La jongleuse... Jozette Margarette Seinecke-Bock.

Love those shoes and leggings (or socks). Circus performer style.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on January 07, 2018, 04:07:14 am
Another attempt.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 07, 2018, 04:48:42 am
That's framing.

That's it's here and it's gone.

That's a flat mountain.

Bruce

Thanks, Bruce; I sometimes try to reduce things to the minimum, even within the overall area of interest.

To revert to another thread about pre-sensing the shot: black/white seems to lend itself to that better than colour if only because shadow can look more convincing as black than as some suggested, coloured tone of it does. Or at least, so I find. When you can decide on what it is that really attracts your eye, then it isn't rocket science to figure out a framing to let you concentrate on that, knowing you can change the rest of the image later on by subjugating it to shadow or lack of focus via wide apertures.

Photography is such a powerful tool for expression, not just of self, but of observations. Some will argue it's the same thing, but I'm not so sure.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 07, 2018, 05:14:46 am
Circus performer style.


Well, she is, so...

Interesting insight into the "joys" of the street performer: between Christmas and New Year, she was shut down by 3 Municipal Police... the lowest rung of the police hierarchy. They walked straight past a bunch of male performers and told her if she didn't turn off the music, she'd be arrested.

This despite having an authorisation from city hall, whose rep called the police to confirm. The police replied that when it came to "Public Order" they were free to make their own judgement. A judgement that can presumably be modified by slipping a few notes into the right hands... :(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 07, 2018, 06:17:59 am
Well, she is, so...

Interesting insight into the "joys" of the street performer: between Christmas and New Year, she was shut down by 3 Municipal Police... the lowest rung of the police hierarchy. They walked straight past a bunch of male performers and told her if she didn't turn off the music, she'd be arrested.

This despite having an authorisation from city hall, whose rep called the police to confirm. The police replied that when it came to "Public Order" they were free to make their own judgement. A judgement that can presumably be modified by slipping a few notes into the right hands... :(


There's an ongoing case in Palma where a nightclub owner is on trial for using the police to do his heavy lifting... in essence, the tale is that in exchange for freebies at his clubs - not money! - they leaned on other clubs so hard and for so long, with drug raids etc. that the man in question would then make them an offer to buy that they could not, financially, refuse. It also explained why residents' complaints about club noise at night were ignored, depsite the reality of laws controlling such polution. Great world in which we live.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 07, 2018, 08:14:39 am
Snooping into another window the other day:
Rob
Rob,

Bittersweet memories...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 07, 2018, 09:03:07 am
Rob,

Bittersweet memories...

Peter

Exactly! I remember that when I was a kid there were several similar bits of luggage in the loft; when I was sent off to boarding school I was accompanied by one of those trunks made of wooden ribs and stiff, reddish/brown canvas (?) sections and brass corners that survived repeated trips on Indian trains and even made it to Britain where, for a while, it occupied space in my own loft... Not for flying, but very good for most other ways of transport except the car! I think Norman Parkinson used one in some pictures, as he would, wouldn't he? A couple of nights ago I rewatched the Beeb video they made after his death; as he said, he was the guv'nor.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 07, 2018, 03:34:52 pm
Into the light
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 07, 2018, 06:55:05 pm
"Learn Chinese"

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 07, 2018, 10:05:37 pm
.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 08, 2018, 05:52:55 am
A couple of chaps in the street...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 08, 2018, 10:31:19 am
Departure...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Bruce Cox on January 08, 2018, 10:52:07 am
Departure...

Peter

I suggest the longer title:  Departure in Light from Three Windows

Your scene reminds me of...

Bruce
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 08, 2018, 12:40:59 pm
Departure...

Peter

Like the atmosphere and balance of emotions!

David Hamilton would have given you his vote too...

:-;
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Richowens on January 09, 2018, 12:29:19 am
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4B7xGdW/0/ddc56c24/L/i-4B7xGdW-L.jpg)

 Another face, another time
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 09, 2018, 08:35:54 am
A coffee (or three)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 09, 2018, 12:41:44 pm
75 minuets...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 09, 2018, 12:52:29 pm
Hi Peter, Looks as if I'm looking out of a bomb bay from about 35,000 feet.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 10, 2018, 04:17:12 am
You're doing this on purpose

Of course.

Here's a recent shot of she whose knees you appreciated...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 10, 2018, 05:07:25 am
Enigmatic or ambiguous? Or both?

At thumbnail size, I mistook that side-lit thumb for something quite else. Is that a tap I see before me, denoting the room of baths - or perhaps of a kitcken, or be it the head of a little tripod? And if so, is it a case of Alice aforethought or of seizing the moment? Is that the hand of man or a little self-help? That's what photography should be about: anything but the obvious! And the light was rather helpful too. France agrees with you.

And regarding the women in black; Catherine Deneuve, at 74 (give or take!) has just said that it all smacks of puritanism and hatred of men... now that's bravery, flying in the face of the sisters! But then, she earned her eff-off money decades ago.

IMO, it's neither: I think that it's simply grandstanding, and latching on to something that might garner more likes in the social media that rules these lives. It will play very well with all the many dispossesed, those no-chancers who litter the malls and buy tickets to suspension, and it might even translate into more publicity (which it has) and possibly a better base from which their agents to negotiate fees. Either way, most women know they look better in black, and it does prevent some of the total fashion disasters that such festivals sponsor.

As I have mentioned before, I have never known a female who didn't know the power of her own mind and her place within her society. There is a huge difference between people who have that/an ellusive something that everybody wants a piece of, and those people who have absolutely nothing anyone wants. It is something that hits both the sexes (all of them, if I must be seen to be inclusive) and if anything, the battle for supremacy is within the sexes, not between (or amongst) them. The other battles have always been fought and always will; right until the day when gender ceases to mean anything and the species stops recreating itself. Survival and achievement of goals depends upon pragmatism, and the acceptance of human nature and our willingness or otherwise to live within the group. It's about the heat in the kitchen. If we don't like it, that hermitage awaits. Or the barroom and the jukebox (love those blue notes!) and the honky tonk angels.

Good grief! It's eleven o'clock and I haven't even given a thought to the carrots!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 10, 2018, 07:20:43 am
It's been some time since Catherine D was a young woman walking unescorted across the public places of a large French city: i've seen the harassment happen in front of me, and it's appalling:
"Oh, you're so beautiful, can I have your phone number?"
"Oh well F-off then, slut".

With a slap to the face of the woman as well, in one recently recorded case.

I've seen screen shots of e-discussions between model friends and supposed photographers... that basically follow the same lines.
My jaundiced opinion is that as the rich-poor gap gets bigger, there is a more "anything goes" attitude to gaining success, however that's defined. It applies equally to raising animals as though they are machines, or ripping off everyone you deal with, or pouring alcohol into young models to disinhibit them, or feeding drugs to desperately ambitious young athletes.

It's not an issue for someone like Kate Moss, who has the money and the power and can happily decide to flash whatever bits of her body she cares... it's the young ones who aren't at peace with themselves and who are probably too insecure to be in the business, but are desperate to succeed because of the marketing of the dream. It's certainly a fault on both sides, but I'd like to think a 50 yo photographer has a certain responsibility of care toward 20 yo models... regardless of gender.

Then you see the bitterness Marie Helvin seems to still harbour for Bailey... human jealousy etc etc. Bof, as they say around here.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 10, 2018, 07:32:28 am
Hi Peter, Looks as if I'm looking out of a bomb bay from about 35,000 feet.

Hi Russ,

Maybe, I was......just kidding. Direct Sunlight pouring in and a cool blue sky reflection through a south facing window.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 10, 2018, 08:06:17 am
It's an interesting image no matter how you approach it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 10, 2018, 09:18:24 am
It's been some time since Catherine D was a young woman walking unescorted across the public places of a large French city: i've seen the harassment happen in front of me, and it's appalling:
"Oh, you're so beautiful, can I have your phone number?"
"Oh well F-off then, slut".

With a slap to the face of the woman as well, in one recently recorded case.

I've seen screen shots of e-discussions between model friends and supposed photographers... that basically follow the same lines.
My jaundiced opinion is that as the rich-poor gap gets bigger, there is a more "anything goes" attitude to gaining success, however that's defined. It applies equally to raising animals as though they are machines, or ripping off everyone you deal with, or pouring alcohol into young models to disinhibit them, or feeding drugs to desperately ambitious young athletes.

It's not an issue for someone like Kate Moss, who has the money and the power and can happily decide to flash whatever bits of her body she cares... it's the young ones who aren't at peace with themselves and who are probably too insecure to be in the business, but are desperate to succeed because of the marketing of the dream. It's certainly a fault on both sides, but I'd like to think a 50 yo photographer has a certain responsibility of care toward 20 yo models... regardless of gender.

Then you see the bitterness Marie Helvin seems to still harbour for Bailey... human jealousy etc etc. Bof, as they say around here.

Bof! indeed, as my daughter has been wont to say ever after her uni year in France! I often wondered where that came from, as it wasn't all that prevalent in Scotland at the time; probably still isn't, but I can't say.

But yes, your example of the lone woman in the city (probably even more at risk in the sticks!) isn't something of which to be proud, but it's hardly anything new. The difference seems to be that where nobody thought much of it, or even expected it to be different, the zeitgeist has suddenly made it a falsely new issue, and thus the young who are exposed to it - it nearly always is the young, because it is all about obvious sexual attraction (though it is now fashionable to think of it as much in terms of power, for goodness sake!) think it is a new deal, and that by shouting out loud things will change. They will not. Men change no more than do women; only socially acceptable habits appear to change, but underneath the public face, life continues as ever. It has to, or it finishes.

Harking back to the 50s, I was no more likely to walk around the less salubrious areas of Glasgow than I would be today; perhaps the old razors have gone, but with the popular craze for bikes, I'm sure the lengths of chain have returned with a vengeance, if they had ever vanished. Of course things such as rape and physical harm must be prevented and punished, but we step a little too fast when we conflate all of that with the wolf whistle from atop some scaffolding; my wife used to work in a laboratory and she used to be amused at the reactions when she (you see? labs were open to both genders, it depended on ability if you got in or not) or any of the other female chemists would need to go into the works. The catcalls and "appreciation" were all good-natured and nobody took offence or intended it; as I say, I think this has been soured by political correctness distorting all transgender (cross-gender?) relationships. I remember my neighbour, in her seventies, remarking some years ago that if nobody gave you a whistle or pinched your ass, you believed you were slipping... There is an enormous gulf between assault and light public applause - and as the wolf whistle is often given to any female, it is probably if she doesn't get it that doubts creep in, exactly as they will from gazing at videos of trainers or dancers doing workouts and lying that yes, you too can look as do I if you but buy this, that or the other machine or diet deal. Bullshit; people are what they are through the luck of the draw, and helped not a little by loving, responsible and caring parents who cook good food and keep you out of the fast food joints. If there is a medical condition, that is something entirely different.

I can't speak for other snappers, but I never worked in a culture where you got your models and/or yourself drunk on the job. Why would you imagine that made life better? If anything, it would make you both incompetent. That may be the case within the ethos of the "amateur model and photographer" who hires her or picks her up somewhere, but as all my models came from agencies, all the girls knew how many eggs made an omelette. Now, of course there are and will continue to be photographers who take advantage of the relationship, as docs and nurses, pilots and stewardesses (you interact with people types you meet every day) might well do, for all I know; it's just sex appeal appealing yet again. It's up to the model if she wants to play that game or not; models are the strongest, most resilient creatures who face rejection at a casting every day, accept that somebody else suits the gig better, and they simply move along to the next casting they have been invited to attend. The invitation is its own reward on a basic level, because it indicates you are valuable; if you fail and another gets the gig, c'est la vie.

Kate Moss was not always a millionairess. Cocaine chick was flavour of the day - Corrine Day was big at the time, and worked with Moss a lot... there were many drug casualties, the most notable perhaps being poor Gia, a girl who had everything throwing it all away on dust.

But yes, times change. Mostly, a girl would come up to the studio, do her thing, I'd sign her agency slip and she'd be on her way. We were seldom stuck with other people around because the girls all knew how to do their make up themselves, and better yet, the day of the present-and-lurking art director and client had not arrived on my parish. Today, though I trust myself and know my abilities as well as those that age and health have stolen, I don't think I'd work that way again. This came to me after the same woman who had complained about political correctness stopping her from getting whistles, and also my own daughter, told me that I would be insane to work alone with a woman again. I think that may illustrate part of the mess that the pc brigade has created for everybody, even probably harmless old buggers such as I.

What a shame that attempts to improve the natural order have only made it worse.

Thought it worth adding: I have known models who hunt scalps, too. Hunting 'em is not exclusively a male thing.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 10, 2018, 11:22:33 am
Nothing new of course about abuse and the Weinstein or subsequent scandals. Monroe famously said she spent much of her early career on her knees. Even the Church - or should that be particularly the Church - had much to answer for. Abuse throughout society was rife, still is, but hopefully women people today are more informed, can recognise it for what it is and will be less inclined to perpetuate or tolerate the behaviour.

If that's being politically correct then bring it on.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 10, 2018, 11:41:55 am
 Amen, sister! (a nod to Catherine Deneuve)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 10, 2018, 11:58:27 am
Amen, sister! (a nod to Catherine Deneuve)


+1

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 10, 2018, 02:27:15 pm
Nothing new of course about abuse and the Weinstein or subsequent scandals. Monroe famously said she spent much of her early career on her knees. Even the Church - or should that be particularly the Church - had much to answer for. Abuse throughout society was rife, still is, but hopefully women people today are more informed, can recognise it for what it is and will be less inclined to perpetuate or tolerate the behaviour.

If that's being politically correct then bring it on.


No, I don't think that's at all pic: I think it's realistic. Having a daughter as well as granddaughters, I'm all too aware of what lies out there. But pretending it's all new and tied up to showbiz and that a few women in black will change the reality of sex is a mistake and a confusion of desires.

The bottom line, as I see it, is education both at home and in school. Fail there and all that remains is peer pessure at school, and certainly in my era there, all the girls were virgins and all the boys fully experienced. Go figure.

The funny thing is, dating a girl used to be easy: you just wandered across to her and said: would you like to go out with me on Saturday (or whenever). At worst she would say no thanks, I'm going steady (even if not) or, better, she'd say okay - where shall we meet? Today, with all the hysteria, I'd probably still be a batchelor and a world-class player of solitaire. These days, how do folks ask for a date without risking arrest or stoning?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on January 10, 2018, 02:38:24 pm

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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 10, 2018, 02:51:15 pm

No, I don't think that's at all pic: I think it's realistic. Having a daughter as well as granddaughters, I'm all too aware of what lies out there. But pretending it's all new and tied up to showbiz and that a few women in black will change the reality of sex is a mistake and a confusion of desires.

The bottom line, as I see it, is education both at home and in school. Fail there and all that remains is peer pessure at school, and certainly in my era there, all the girls were virgins and all the boys fully experienced. Go figure.

The funny thing is, dating a girl used to be easy: you just wandered across to her and said: would you like to go out with me on Saturday (or whenever). At worst she would say no thanks, I'm going steady (even if not) or, better, she'd say okay - where shall we meet? Today, with all the hysteria, I'd probably still be a batchelor and a world-class player of solitaire. These days, how do folks ask for a date without risking arrest or stoning?

Rob

That would be the internet.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 10, 2018, 03:59:09 pm
That would be the internet.

;-)

Please tell me it isn't so! How without soul; how "commodity"! Just buy it at Amazon.

:-)





Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 10, 2018, 04:08:26 pm
I expect tech developments to run human reproduction as currently practiced through the shredder. Initially for everyone who can afford it, eventually more widespread. Eventually pregnancy may come to be seen as barbaric. Eventually the need for men to play any part in the process may disappear.

Personally I'm rooting for all of this.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 10, 2018, 04:22:34 pm
And spoil all the fun? You're outta your mind!!!!!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 10, 2018, 04:25:14 pm
And spoil all the fun? You're outta your mind!!!!!

Think about it...By then it wont be fun. A cup of dystopia, all around.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 11, 2018, 03:21:58 am
During labour the pain is so great that a woman can almost imagine what a man feels like when he has a cold.

Think on these things.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 11, 2018, 05:14:38 am
I think it goes well past desire... or it's desire that has been so mutilated and deformed that it has turned into something much worse.
What I've observed on the street is young men shouting at women with hatred in their voices; referring to others as sluts and whores.

I'm sure it's a natural consequence of telling young men and women that the intense desires they are feeling are sinful and will condemn them to hell: they hate themselves, so they hate those who they see as temptation.

In France, what is happening on the streets is mainly about young men from a Muslim background. From what I've read, 50 years ago in the UK it was Irishmen: different religion, same cause. It has nothing to do with Weinstein et al, except that they believe they can get away with it. The kids are running in gangs and taking pleasure in doing what they've been told they mustn't do... the Weinsteiners have learnt that they have so much power that women will not say no. There is sense in the phrase "drunk on power"

As for Deneuve... it's a long time since she was a young woman walking across a public space in the less exclusive areas of a big city.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 11, 2018, 06:38:17 am
I think it goes well past desire... or it's desire that has been so mutilated and deformed that it has turned into something much worse.
What I've observed on the street is young men shouting at women with hatred in their voices; referring to others as sluts and whores.

I'm sure it's a natural consequence of telling young men and women that the intense desires they are feeling are sinful and will condemn them to hell: they hate themselves, so they hate those who they see as temptation.

In France, what is happening on the streets is mainly about young men from a Muslim background. From what I've read, 50 years ago in the UK it was Irishmen: different religion, same cause. It has nothing to do with Weinstein et al, except that they believe they can get away with it. The kids are running in gangs and taking pleasure in doing what they've been told they mustn't do... the Weinsteiners have learnt that they have so much power that women will not say no. There is sense in the phrase "drunk on power"

As for Deneuve... it's a long time since she was a young woman walking across a public space in the less exclusive areas of a big city.

Of course, religion has a part when you're talking about a clash of cultures, but the Catholic Irish and the Baptist Americans and Australians to which latters' tender mercies I was exposed from the age of about twelve, though they are diametrically opposed on religious grounds, just as the internecine-warring Moslems, they are united in the condemnation of pleasure. I simply don't get it: if it boils down to nothing more than the dangers of pregnancy, why the hell don't they just say so and nobody in their right mind would argue. But no, it gets mixed up with all manner of different aspects of life. Maybe in the case of the latter grouping, they get what they appear to get as a wrapped package, which might bring with it as many shocks as pleasant surprises. I can understand they might dislike anyone else having the opportunity to try before they buy, as it were. But equally, who can blame them totally when one sees some of the non-Moslem people behave exactly as the cows they sometimes get called by some Moslem hotheads? Life in a holiday resort is quite revealing of one's fellow tribe and it's behaviour patterns when away from home and possible observation.

However, nothing excuses violence and intimidation. There have been notorious cases of gangs of Pakistani-origination men in England abusing young white girls; apparently, though they were eventually tried and jailed, the ethic continues, and it seems that the reason is that the police are afraid to get too close because of the knee-jerk public and press noise about racial discrimination. I mean, as with the stop/search thing, it only happens more to specific groups because the figures show that's where the problems exist to a disproportionate degree. As with security searches at airports, guys and women who look and dress the part are more likely to enjoy the undivided attention of staff who have historical reasons to think those people enjoy, and think exploding aircraft to be desirable. My son and I used to be very frequent fliers during the early 80s, and we both wore jeans and I a beard. We would be stopped at Glasgow Airport every single time, and I know why: dress codes. I even joked with one officer about it, but he simply smiled and checked the cases thoroughly. I had no beef with that  - if we wanted to look like hippies on an Amex card, that was the price we had to be prepared to pay for that pleasure. And no, I'm all for stringent security at airports.

But Catherine: she doesn't have to be a walker of dingy streets: she was/is in the movie business since forever, and could hardly have escaped the system; her interest in the matter must relate to showbiz as it does for the women in black. Expanded altruism for the lesser-blessed (read less ambitious wannabe showbiz types) women strikes me as nothing more than what Deneuve condemns it for being. Even Mrs Worthington was advised not to let her daughter near the stage!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 11, 2018, 04:24:03 pm
As close as I get to two wheels.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 12, 2018, 04:28:46 am
Or one ball...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 12, 2018, 04:34:28 am
I'd have bought a shirt like hers in the sixties or even the seventies.

Nice shot, by the way, that improves with magnification: it's the Hans Feurer background effect.

;-)

Rob

P.S.

The Louis Faurer book arrived today - something for the weekend, sir...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 12, 2018, 09:34:53 am
~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 12, 2018, 10:11:49 am
Wow. Very nice, Patricia.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 12, 2018, 10:54:37 am
~

J.R.R. Tolkien eat your heart out.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 12, 2018, 03:35:35 pm
Of course, religion has a part when you're talking about a clash of cultures, but the Catholic Irish and the Baptist Americans and Australians to which latters' tender mercies I was exposed from the age of about twelve, though they are diametrically opposed on religious grounds, just as the internecine-warring Moslems, they are united in the condemnation of pleasure.

Yes. Separate sex from procreation, thus removing all necessity from it, and among other things you'll find out where & what people are actually getting their pleasure from and what exactly the nature of that pleasure is.

Some people get off on denying and condemning.

Oh, one other thing: sexbots.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 12, 2018, 04:03:43 pm
I've been reprocessing some of my Kodachrome digitizations (from 2013 via Olympus E-M5 camera & 60mm macro lens) in Affinity Photo on my iPad. This one is from Luxor, Egypt, May or June 1984. I can't remember if it was a bus or train station. Maybe both. I do remember feeling really crappy on the day…I had hepatitis A but didn't yet know it. Camera & lens were a Canon AE-1 and 50/1.4. Pretty sure I'd run out of K25 by then so this is almost certainly K64.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on January 12, 2018, 07:00:21 pm
Wow. Very nice, Patricia.

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 12, 2018, 10:41:16 pm
Lost passage~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 12, 2018, 11:52:52 pm
And another winner, Patricia!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 13, 2018, 09:12:19 am
Patricia's 2997 shot is indeed Tolkinian :-)

I seem to have accidentally created a series on chairs, or one chair in particular. Here is its latest appearance:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 13, 2018, 11:59:13 am
Patricia's 2997 shot is indeed Tolkinian :-)

I seem to have accidentally created a series on chairs, or one chair in particular. Here is its latest appearance:


Well, I'll grant you this: as fetish it out-values Ms Coke, because at least you can sit on it without risking life, not to mention disgrace at the local hospital.

Regarding the Louis Faurer purchase: as you'd expect from Steidl, you get a wonderful print job. Nice paper, and the inks have a glow that I like. The text is also interesting and quite descripitve, but the images disappointed me. Oh, there's nothing wrong with them at all, and very reminiscent of the Leiter b/white pairing, but as my knowledge of his work has been mostly inspired by his efforts for the two fashion bibles, it comes as a huge disappointment to find no fashion work therein. The text refers to a dearth of such material surviving, yet the Internet is replete with his fashion work, and he uses a few of the same girls that did William Klein for his fashion shoots. Every bit as beautiful (and considering lack of Photoshop at the time), if not even more so than do our own era's supermodels, those ladies looked like class, not just expensive glamour. The proverbial duchess, as it might be said, which has, again, not a lot to do with duchesses at all, though I have to say that the Spanish Queen is some elegant lady!

Had this book been physically visible and not bought on the Internet, would I have bought it? Perhaps, but not at the first look at it. There are other publications I would rather have sprung for, but c'est la vie. And thinking of springing, maybe Steidl could have provided a dust jacket...but they do include a little ribbon for marking your page. Hmmm.

Another thing that I found strange: though the same gallery that represents Leiter also contributed to the book, nowhere is there mention of Leiter, though there is of Eggleston, which seems more than a little perverse. Yes, Robert Frank and Arbus as well as Helen Levitt are mentioned along with others of that NY School, but no Leiter. Distinctly and disturbingly odd. I wonder what political games are afoot there!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 13, 2018, 01:56:21 pm

Well, I'll grant you this: as fetish it out-values Ms Coke, because at least you can sit on it without risking life, not to mention disgrace at the local hospital.

Not entirely : this chair is in fact not the same as the earlier chair... I removed it from the spare room when I decided to clean it out and declare it the studio. Its duties for the last few years were limited to holding up boxes of paper, because the back will fall off with even minor encouragement. Otoh, hypothetical injuries would be more easily explained.

One of the challenges of making one's home. Did I post this one before?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 13, 2018, 02:01:05 pm
I can't remember if it was a bus or train station.

The descending stairwell to the left suggests trains. What I find striking is how much it reminds me of the Station Françia on the north side of Barcelona: not the painting, but the proportions of the space. There must be a generic form to train-station ticket-halls... or not.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 13, 2018, 03:35:55 pm
On the subject of recent book purchases, I plunged for Crewdson's Cathedral of the Pines. I'm very happy with it, even if I'm not convinced his production budget was really necessary, other than for creating a story to market the photos. Oh well, you have to spend money to make money, musn't go spoiling the industrial adages...  :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on January 13, 2018, 03:52:02 pm
~
Dark and moody. Really comes through, Patricia.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 13, 2018, 05:32:36 pm
On the subject of recent book purchases, I plunged for Crewdson's Cathedral of the Pines. I'm very happy with it, even if I'm not convinced his production budget was really necessary, other than for creating a story to market the photos. Oh well, you have to spend money to make money, musn't go spoiling the industrial adages...  :D


Spend money to make money. Yes, spend client money, not your own. I was just thinking about this the other day when I opened the cabinet and saw the D700 wrapped up in its dish towel, almost never used (the camera) because the other one, though a lesser creature, has some mojo about it, just like Norman Parkinson's magic hats. The thought registered that of the many bits of glass and stuff that I bought after retiring, most of it lies unused, the one that sees most daylight being the af G version of the 1.8/50mm. It's the case, because on the D200 it is a 75mm equivalent, even if still a bit shorter than I'd have liked. An 85mm would be handy instead, giving me a bit more reach without going to the 180mm which becomes too obvious at times. The wonderful 105 Micro and fantastic 2.8/135 are manual focus, and off a tripod I may as well just go feed the nag. My beloved 500 reflex has nobody to grace, around whom to create halos of glory; it just sulks silently in its leather case. Which reminds me: Nikkors all used to come in clever, clear Perspex cases or in leather ones. Today, you are lucky to get the cardboard box. Maybe Leica does it better, but never having bought one, I don't know.

The book I should have bought, though I forgot about it when I ordered the Faurer, was the Ernst Haas one called Color Corrections. Age, the bitch!

But hey, you gotta hang on in there and think of something else. That's where music saves your hide.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 13, 2018, 05:35:39 pm
Not entirely : this chair is in fact not the same as the earlier chair... I removed it from the spare room when I decided to clean it out and declare it the studio. Its duties for the last few years were limited to holding up boxes of paper, because the back will fall off with even minor encouragement. Otoh, hypothetical injuries would be more easily explained.

One of the challenges of making one's home. Did I post this one before?


Not that I remember, you didn't, but I'm glad that you did. You really do have a great eye for city stuff.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 13, 2018, 07:23:46 pm
"...because the back will fall off with even minor encouragement."
As will even the most fine fine and precious of city porcelaine if pushed beyond its brink, yet receiving and expressing living sweet light, just as fine~I find your resting place quite fetching.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 13, 2018, 07:35:41 pm
Returning at nightfall to lost path, the thaw~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 14, 2018, 09:54:17 am
Returning at nightfall to lost path, the thaw~

Wonderfully mysterious...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 14, 2018, 11:02:49 am
Returning at nightfall to lost path, the thaw~

Where's Gollum?

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 14, 2018, 11:42:05 am
~making progress on that. The tracking has been excellent until the thaw and did locate an entry within the root tangles of a banke, where at 10 degrees this morning I could feel a warmer movement of air being exhaled, so know there must be an anterior passage also. The flows have halted and once the tides recede a bit more hope to poke about. (Gladdens my heart ;) )
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 14, 2018, 11:53:05 am
Wonderfully mysterious...

Peter


You know what's a neat little piece in this Peter? Almost lost my walking sticks to the tide behind me as I perched between two outcroppings. As my fingertips began to throb trying to stay in position long enough in the lowlight to catch a particular surge which seemed to repeat briefly and draw the forms before my eyes, I several times saw two of your lowlight winter tree paintings. It is truly magical for me when these events simply spring up before my eyes with no particular warning or suggestive announcement. I actually DID say to you, "do you see that tree Peter? There it is again!", then finally had to quit and retreat against the cold and falling deep dark warning me of the need to get a move on. Set a chill up my spine to read your comment~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 14, 2018, 04:48:50 pm
Returning at nightfall to lost path, the thaw~

Dark & lovely. Has a painted on hardboard quality.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 14, 2018, 04:49:44 pm
Wonderfully mysterious...

Peter


You know what's a neat little piece in this Peter? Almost lost my walking sticks to the tide behind me as I perched between two outcroppings. As my fingertips began to throb trying to stay in position long enough in the lowlight to catch a particular surge which seemed to repeat briefly and draw the forms before my eyes, I several times saw two of your lowlight winter tree paintings. It is truly magical for me when these events simply spring up before my eyes with no particular warning or suggestive announcement. I actually DID say to you, "do you see that tree Peter? There it is again!", then finally had to quit and retreat against the cold and falling deep dark warning me of the need to get a move on. Set a chill up my spine to read your comment~

Patrica,
When in search of winter nocturnes, I often find myself accompanied by thoughts that have been placed in my head and remain in my heart.
Fleeting light and mysterious shadows and the uncomfortable unknown are made safe with the voices and images of my past.

Peter

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 14, 2018, 11:28:54 pm
Thank you for that Peter.. Yes they have a way of becoming touchstones revealing truths emerging from the swirls of marks placed upon our hearts.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 15, 2018, 05:09:09 am
Patrica,
When in search of winter nocturnes, I often find myself accompanied by thoughts that have been placed in my head and remain in my heart.
Fleeting light and mysterious shadows and the uncomfortable unknown are made safe with the voices and images of my past.

Peter


That, Peter, is why I hate having to have anything at all to do with forests!

Yes, on a practical human level they may be generally safe (in western Europe) from death by tooth and claw unless you wander through ferns, eating wild mushrooms and stand on snakes, but there is a spooking of the mind present nonetheless - for me. Blair Witch Project illustrated it perfectly or, maybe, created a recognizable form of what I had formerly known only as a shapeless sense of menace about the disorientation those places engender.

It's not reserved for humans. When we came out here to live (Spain) we eventually brought our Alsabrador with us - mainly Alsation - and she had the biggest teeth I ever saw on a dog. A hundred yards behind our home there is a hill covered in pine forest, with a road winding up to the crest, on the sides of which road were markings where houses were allowed to be built. Most, these almost forty years later, are still not built. Anyway, a great place for a walk with the reward of a magnficent view overlooking the Bay of Pollensa, right across to the next bay, the Alcudia one. But, that dog was straining against the lead every step of the way. She did not want to be there. I was to discover later that one of my neighbours who also had a dog, experienced the very same reactions with his. He told me that he'd once wandered off the road into the trees and came across a dead dog hanging from a branch. Who could do this sort of thing?

But dogs do more than sense by ear and nose. The predecessor to the above dog was a lot smaller - pretty much like a fox, she was; I would sometimes be in the front room playing my records whilst the family were in the next room watching tv or whatever, the dog with them. I would hear her bark, and then I'd look out the window to the road and see a chap and his dog come strolling down, about forty yards away. Now how, with music and tv on, could that dog know that this other animal was on its way? No chance of scent shooting ahead of the dog and into the house, and I can't imagine it could hear above the ambient sounds already in the house. Yes, the dog was a regular on the road, but the timing was not regular.

It's things like this that convince me of a hereafter, of the existence of so much of which we know zero.

But back to the forests: as you admit to the emotions they inspire, I'm surprised you actually seek them out. I thought you loved the woods... however, this new revelation puts another layer of meaning onto your paintings, widening the conversation one might hold with them.
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Post by: GrahamBy on January 15, 2018, 05:31:03 am
Yes, I think dark is a primordial fear... it makes sense, we lose one of our most useful defensive faculties, we're at a disdvantage to the beasts of claws and teeth. My friend of the shoulder blades and knees grew up in a tiny village in the Ardèche, the only Département in France with neither a railway nor an autoroute. Some would call it a "shit-hole", but it's where you end up when your father has left the priesthood to marry: did you know that the church is excused any contributions to the social security system? That means an ex-priest essentially has no hope of a decent retirement once past 40 years. In the case of her father, he solved the problem by dieing in his 50's.

Anyway, as a girl she would be sent up the hill to collect milk from a farm every night, on a road through the forest which in winter was completely dark. If she was lucky she could persuade one of her brothers to to come along, but often not. She was overjoyed when the family moved to the city :)

These are not her legs, they belong to a young woman who was reading musical scores and making notes on a laptop in my new favourite café...
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Post by: petermfiore on January 15, 2018, 07:13:50 am

That, Peter, is why I hate having to have anything at all to do with forests

But back to the forests: as you admit to the emotions they inspire, I'm surprised you actually seek them out. I thought you loved the woods... however, this new revelation puts another layer of meaning onto your paintings, widening the conversation one might hold with them.

Rob,
To paint one needs to feel, if one paints only what is observed...well, the camera does that much better. Feeling can be uneasy, but feeling is life. I've never felt my life was endangered on my walks. My mind wanders to various life moments as I move through a space. The past is a tremendous reservoir to inform our future thinking. I force that upon myself.

Peter
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Post by: KLaban on January 15, 2018, 08:19:27 am
Going back twenty years or more I used to do a lot of woodland photography and spent a lot of time in these environments miles from any habitation. The day to day experience varied, perhaps depending on my frame of mind on any particular day. Some days it was an uplifting experience and on others somewhat daunting and even potentially dangerous.

Occasionally in the middle of nowhere I'd come across a lit manmade fire: a policeman friend told me this was more than likely evidence of criminals who are on the run. Another time I had my car broken into but thankfully I had all my equipment with me and there were no losses other than a broken window. On yet another occasion I got back to my car only to find a pornographic polaroid tucked under the wiper. I reported this to the police who told me the perpetrator was likely in the vicinity and watching for my return: rather unnerving.

On balance and despite the dangers I remember it generally as a rewarding time.

 
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Post by: Rob C on January 15, 2018, 09:27:50 am
Yes, I think dark is a primordial fear... it makes sense, we lose one of our most useful defensive faculties, we're at a disdvantage to the beasts of claws and teeth. My friend of the shoulder blades and knees grew up in a tiny village in the Ardèche, the only Département in France with neither a railway nor an autoroute. Some would call it a "shit-hole", but it's where you end up when your father has left the priesthood to marry: did you know that the church is excused any contributions to the social security system? That means an ex-priest essentially has no hope of a decent retirement once past 40 years. In the case of her father, he solved the problem by dieing in his 50's.

Anyway, as a girl she would be sent up the hill to collect milk from a farm every night, on a road through the forest which in winter was completely dark. If she was lucky she could persuade one of her brothers to to come along, but often not. She was overjoyed when the family moved to the city :)

These are not her legs, they belong to a young woman who was reading musical scores and making notes on a laptop in my new favourite café...

My bad forest experience wasn't there, but in Limousin, as we took the route from Brive-la-Gaillard across, eastwards, towards Clermont Ferrand and onwards and upwards to the champagne lands. I needed to take a leak and it's a route as empty as the places of your friend's experiences. After that I thought seriously about carrying an empty bottle around... I guess some things defy logic and common sense, whatever common sense may really be; it might even be the emotion tellng me not to turn off the straight line because then I'd never find the way back. I also wonder why the hell I didn't just go French, stop right beside the car and just unzip, there and then. Maybe the French do that because they know their forests better.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 15, 2018, 10:27:05 am
To paint one needs to feel, if one paints only what is observed...well, the camera does that much better. Feeling can be uneasy, but feeling is life.
Well said, Peter!

Expressing feeling using a camera is probably harder than using paints, but the photographs I find myself most attracted to are ones that express feelings, as do Patricia's, and Peter's, and, yes, even Rob's. And "happy face" isn't the only feeling worth expressing visually.

-Eric
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Post by: Rob C on January 15, 2018, 01:19:20 pm
Well said, Peter!

Expressing feeling using a camera is probably harder than using paints, but the photographs I find myself most attracted to are ones that express feelings, as do Patricia's, and Peter's, and, yes, even Rob's. And "happy face" isn't the only feeling worth expressing visually.

-Eric


Thanks, Eric, and "happy face" is probably the most boring of them all; at least a selfie might show a tiny spot of embarrassment... !

I think emotional buzz must be one of the hardest things to try and achieve through landscape photography, though, as one lacks so much control over the subject and pretty words induce nothing by way of response. At least with Moira there is some communication: I whistle, she wanders over, and she gets a couple of carrots and I the pleasure of looking into her eyes. Done. No camera required. I have always failed to see anything when looking into the eyes of a cat, and for some years we had over thirty of them that we fed. That each had a name made no difference to the depth of relationship.






Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 15, 2018, 03:00:41 pm
Ah,Rob,

Cats are like the purest of documentary photographers. They may have feelings, but they will absolutely NEVER let a human know what those feelings are. The sound of a can opener will cause any cat to come running, making a great (totally fake) show of affection, that lasts until the food is in the dish.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 15, 2018, 03:52:00 pm
Ah,Rob,

Cats are like the purest of documentary photographers. They may have feelings, but they will absolutely NEVER let a human know what those feelings are. The sound of a can opener will cause any cat to come running, making a great (totally fake) show of affection, that lasts until the food is in the dish.

Eric

Are you sure, Eric? Shows of affection could be no more than the wilder imaginings of anthropomorphic wishful thinking.

But they do relate, one to the other - the cats, I mean. The last surviving pair from our adopted lot of wildbunchers were both castratos (not done by us, but during our absence on a working trip by a crazed woman neighbour who poisoned the rest and took the surviving pair to a vet) and seemed inseperable.

When one died, probably by a heart problem as it happened so fast, the other walked up to it, sniffed it and literally jumped away from it. So some connection or understanding of death exists within the species. Equally, when some of the females gave birth, there would always be the kitten that came to feed last. We were friendly enough that the mothers would allow us to handle their offspring, and when we'd try to get the runts to feed by holding them up at the mother, they would just look at us as if thinking poor sods, don't they know it's not going to survive?

All said and done, the emotional stress of losing animals one has known all their life is too hard to handle anymore; also, the knowledge that having another dog today means the poor creature will eventually be left to fend for itself or, worse, put to sleep when I'm gone, stops me making the mistake it would be. The loss of our last dog was very hard to accept, and neither of us ever got over the sound of silence when we put the key in the front door lock...
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Post by: Michael West on January 15, 2018, 04:59:34 pm
a not very recent image from the actual interior of neighbor's rather odd  house

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2290/2106753721_f2605b80c0_o.jpg)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 15, 2018, 06:17:22 pm
a not very recent image from the actual interior of neighbor's rather odd  house

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2290/2106753721_f2605b80c0_o.jpg)
Ah! Classic!
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Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 15, 2018, 07:11:36 pm
~slow passage to sea ~(hard water)
and come to grips~
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 15, 2018, 08:01:04 pm
Very hard water indeed!
Splendid.
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Post by: armand on January 15, 2018, 09:52:00 pm
few streams from the summer time
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Post by: armand on January 15, 2018, 09:57:39 pm
and a winter one
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on January 16, 2018, 09:40:41 am
My staircase fetish almost played up on me. SooC:
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Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 16, 2018, 11:41:59 am
Ohhh, a nice patch of visual mind games rolled into one passage; my favorite, ~vertigo.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 16, 2018, 12:48:09 pm
Escher would love it.
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Post by: armand on January 16, 2018, 04:11:20 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 16, 2018, 04:40:18 pm
http://myrvaagnes.com
 

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Escher would love it.

He was the string to my view too, but with a splash of Hitchcock~
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 16, 2018, 10:41:28 pm
Yes, Patricia! Escher plus Hitchcock.

I felt the Hitchcockian vibes but his name didn't immediately pop up.
Thanks for interpreting my unconscious mind.  ;)

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 17, 2018, 12:27:07 am
I really went out of my way to bring you this - I walked to the other side of the building and looked into the neighbours' garden. Somebody had to do it.

I flew all the way to Hawai'i for this one!  ;D

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on January 17, 2018, 10:37:50 am
I flew all the way to Hawai'i for this one!  ;D

-Dave-

Your palm and mine are leaning towards one another (or apart, if you juxtapose unkindly), which suggests that they share the same gene pool which has been ruffled by island winds and its gifts scattered across the oceans; yes, even if this one is just pretending a tiny bit, being little but an inland sea with miniscule outlets, one but a canal.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 17, 2018, 10:48:05 am
I flew all the way to Hawai'i for this one!  ;D

-Dave-
Somehow I guessed it wasn't Massachusetts.

-Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 17, 2018, 01:30:43 pm
Somehow I guessed it wasn't Massachusetts.

-Eric


Because the lights are still on?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 17, 2018, 02:20:08 pm

Because the lights are still on?
Of course.   ;)
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Post by: armand on January 17, 2018, 06:56:46 pm
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Post by: armand on January 17, 2018, 09:38:40 pm
lights
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Post by: John R on January 18, 2018, 01:05:51 am
Some people just don't want to use the stairs.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-RPptRjB/0/f26697bb/M/Feb%2020-12%20Downtown%20HDR%20094%20copy1000-M.jpg)
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Post by: 32BT on January 18, 2018, 05:52:03 am
I like that one John. Good "story" in that image. You didn't bump into Slobodan there by change? ;-) 

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on January 18, 2018, 06:47:08 am
Some people just don't want to use the stairs.

JR


I love this one. It has a story, the colors and geometry/architecture.
Well done.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 18, 2018, 04:42:23 pm
Sometimes there's a ramp...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 18, 2018, 05:27:11 pm
I almost forgot about these
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Post by: Telecaster on January 19, 2018, 04:36:31 pm
I almost forgot about these

Reminds me of the balloon fiesta I saw in Albuquerque in 1993.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 19, 2018, 04:38:59 pm
I've been documenting my north-most maple tree's refusal this winter to give up all its leaves. This is today's pic.

-Dave-
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Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 20, 2018, 01:23:24 am
Hi Dave,
You must have had a few mornings of severe late season cold before the process had completed. If it left them so tightly attached the winds have not yet stripped them, new Spring growth should push them off to allow you your raking pleasure. Beech trees happily exhibit this behaviour on a regular basis, and is one way to locate them in the woods during winter months when you had up to that point not even realized they were among your species.
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Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 20, 2018, 01:25:05 am
Screened in~
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Post by: Rob C on January 20, 2018, 04:12:05 am
Screened in~


That one has power indeed, and mystery. Cuts right across the banal.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 20, 2018, 09:40:29 am

That one has power indeed, and mystery. Cuts right across the banal.
+1.

Patricia continues to amaze.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 20, 2018, 04:50:27 pm
Patricia, I've seen the behavior you describe with trees in my favorite trail-walking park during years with early cold weather. This maple has been behaving oddly for the past 18 months or so. In fall 2016 it was late to drop its leaves, though they finally did fall in a big burst about two weeks after my other maple dropped its last stragglers. This past spring both maples budded normally but the leaves grew slowly, maybe due to unusually cool May weather. (My lilies were late too.) This fall the other maple dumped its leaves a little late but they did come down. But with the pictured tree the leaves have been very stubborn, wind or cold or lack thereof. It's kinda comical driving down my street and seeing nothing but bare branches, then this weirdo. I'm hoping it's just confused rather than ill.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 21, 2018, 07:16:13 am

That one has power indeed, and mystery. Cuts right across the banal.

The floating fine line between fear and desire? (your history with forest,) The sparse population or even more of interest relative safety from your position in place, screened out? Always surprising, the ever constant ebb and flow of our involuntary senses.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 21, 2018, 02:48:16 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 22, 2018, 06:48:54 am
Acknowledgement of a forever friend...Indeed

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on January 22, 2018, 07:12:11 am
Acknowledgement of a forever friend...Indeed

Peter

Yeah, she calls me whenever the blues come say hello.

If I'm smart I go to her; if I'm not, I just walk and hope it lifts and passes again. So far so good...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 22, 2018, 07:20:52 am
Sometimes there's a ramp...


I thought you were too young to notice ramps; two things made me aware: at an early age it was riding a bicycle against the breeze; these days, it's just walking. Quite amazing how one's sense of level increase with age. The wonderful, new-found sense is all in the principal pump.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 22, 2018, 09:35:38 am
Sometimes rain helps me get photos of people too distracted by their umbrellas to notice the camera, but in Paris no one holds till for more than a few milliseconds unless held up by a red light... and even then...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 22, 2018, 12:02:40 pm
Rob, you're doing some really interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 22, 2018, 12:10:54 pm
They take their time in Palma, maybe because they already know there's nowhere else to go.

Love it :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 22, 2018, 12:14:35 pm
Sometimes rain helps me get photos of people too distracted by their umbrellas to notice the camera, but in Paris no one holds till for more than a few milliseconds unless held up by a red light... and even then...

An exercise in futilty: smoking on a bicycle was a waste of fag - a motorised machine makes it last even less time! On the other hand, perhaps that's more healthy, then, despite gasses.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on January 22, 2018, 01:35:59 pm
I'm looking for a version with less window and more wall, but there was a tree in the way, so let's call it a study. Need to get closer for an unobstructed wider view but that would be on their premises, so it's either asking permission or stealthmode. Considering the sentiment these days, i'd better ask permission first.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 22, 2018, 10:56:39 pm
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 22, 2018, 11:11:21 pm
I'm looking for a version with less window and more wall...

That's a cool shot, Oscar.

It is fine as-is, but if you insist, you can always reduce the aspect ratio from the left.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 23, 2018, 05:24:06 am
An exercise in futilty: smoking on a bicycle was a waste of fag - a motorised machine makes it last even less time! On the other hand, perhaps that's more healthy, then, despite gasses.

You know that at one stage Barry Sheene drilled a hole in the front of his helmet, so he could get in one last fag while sitting on the starting grid at GP's ?

Eventually it killed him, more surely than all the high-speed impacts. Today's riders are all hyper-trained athletes and wouldn't dream of such things, with a very small number of exceptions. One of them though is Valentino Rossi, arguably the greatest of all... who probably grills one occasionally just for the perversity of it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on January 23, 2018, 07:46:13 am
That's a cool shot, Oscar.

It is fine as-is, but if you insist, you can always reduce the aspect ratio from the left.

Yes, although I would like to stick to 2:1 or 16:9 for the theme (industrial activity) and the wall structure obviously makes the image. There is a lot of wall left at the top, so perhaps there is a square version possible. The window however extends further to the left so I would like to go for a more elongated but more narrow window contribution with a very dominant wall structure. Even smaller bricks but with plenty of detail would be preferred.

Most of the people that work in this building have mental disabilities and I'm strongly considering calling this "autism" where the narrow window in a wall of structure alludes to a narrow view and love or necessity of structure in the lives of these people.

I could probably shoot a scene oversight picture to show the context.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 23, 2018, 09:25:29 am
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/stephanie-mclean

No wonder he had to smoke now and then...

I used to have her index card but never used her - I think she might have been with Bobton's Agency, but it's long gone too. Yeah, quite an era that was. I think about it sometimes now and start to wonder if it ever existed, and then I find some of my old snaps and feel a little bit more certain that it did. She was a Penthouse or Playboy girl at one time.

I also remember wearing bell-bottoms of the softest denim; a big brand - briefly- was South Sea Bubble, but it went the way of its illustrious namesake...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 23, 2018, 10:44:19 pm
There are no actual cardinals to be *seen around my house at the moment so this will have to do. I think Joan Cox was a neighbor of ours when I was a kid. (I remember the Cox children well but I'm not certain Joan was their mother.) The brown splotch above left of the cutting board dates back more than 40 years. My Aunt Anna flicked a spatula holding a small amount of lemon or lime pudding/filling at me—I was being a smartarse about something—and missed, hitting the wall instead. I cleaned it up but somehow didn't properly get this one spot. It wasn't even noticeable at first, but once it darkened Anna pointed it out to me with a grin…and left it there.  :)

-Dave-

*At my fav local park the cardinals are much less wary of humans during winter, probably because so many folks leave seeds and nuts for the smaller residents. I've put out seeds on a bench in really cold & snowy weather and had a cardinal immediately swoop down and start chowing less than two feet away from me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on January 24, 2018, 03:38:55 pm

I wonder if this is one of Moira's dreams?

Rob

Huh? What then have you been feeding the poor damsel lately?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 24, 2018, 05:12:15 pm
No whisky involved... just a rainy Sunday morning in Paris
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 24, 2018, 05:24:36 pm
The Leica Look (when you push an M9 exposure to ~EI 16000 and leave in all the resulting artifacts).  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 24, 2018, 07:31:35 pm
~toward Spring
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Post by: churly on January 24, 2018, 09:06:29 pm
Nice one Patricia. 
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 24, 2018, 09:14:13 pm
Nice one Patricia.
+1.
But Spring also brings Mud Season, after which you may be able to get to that car safely if you need to.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 24, 2018, 09:29:41 pm
wasps in the winter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 25, 2018, 03:59:25 am
No whisky involved... just a rainy Sunday morning in Paris

If that's from your own apartment, you have a minefield at your feet!

Incidentally, that's pretty good definition you've got there: I can read the legend about the shop so clearly!

Rob
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Post by: GrahamBy on January 25, 2018, 05:00:20 am
No, it's an AirBnB. 50€/night, really quite nice except for the passage of the nuclear powered garbage compactor in the early hours of Saturday. It's in the 17th, which I didn't know at all but my friend had meetings at Pont de Levallois... so it was an opportunity.

Here's one from down the road a bit... and it comes with a sound-track :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifhcWeXIOZs

(As for resolution... the car he is level with is a Smart "FourTwo" which is very easy to read at full res... damn these hand-held APC sensors and 16 year old zooms :) )
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 25, 2018, 05:04:35 am
The Leica Look (when you push an M9 exposure to ~EI 16000 and leave in all the resulting artifacts).  :)

Yes! Much better than smoothing, de-noising, sharpening and otherwise converting the image into what one thinks it should be rather than what it is :)

Although I have to say that Leica noise doesn't look so different to Pentax noise  ;D
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Post by: Rob C on January 25, 2018, 05:43:30 am
No, it's an AirBnB. 50€/night, really quite nice except for the passage of the nuclear powered garbage compactor in the early hours of Saturday. It's in the 17th, which I didn't know at all but my friend had meetings at Pont de Levallois... so it was an opportunity.

Here's one from down the road a bit... and it comes with a sound-track :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifhcWeXIOZs

(As for resolution... the car he is level with is a Smart "FourTwo" which is very easy to read at full res... damn these hand-held APC sensors and 16 year old zooms :) )

Oops! Of course, it's Paris, quite some way away!

Grace Jones. Not my cup of tea, even were it the last cup I was ever to be offered, though I believe that entire suite of crockery is already down the Swannee! Jean-Paul Goude used to push her a lot in French PHOTO lo those many moons ago...  never could understand her popularity if, indeed, she ever was, and it wasn't simply media hype made one imagine so.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 25, 2018, 05:53:35 am
Huh? What then have you been feeding the poor damsel lately?

Well, if you reflect on that, you might see her point... those black stallions come with as much hype as did Ms Jones.

I don't see her as much these days - I think that what with the hint from the new, fluttering ribbon above the electric wire, they are trying to keep us apart. She seems to be in a second field where she only becomes visible when in front of a gate. My daughter has suggested (before this new ribbon was brought into play) that I start to walk past Moira, just casually, carrying a saddle on my shoulder for a few days... perhaps instead of a whistle I might try a whisper. I'd never have thought of that.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 25, 2018, 05:56:45 am
Oh, I think she has a certain charm :)
She was HUGE in the gay community... and if she occasionally punched a few blokes in her disambulations down the corridors of television land, it probably did them some good :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on January 25, 2018, 07:06:48 am
A feeble attempt at a more Rob-like approach, including faux-framing.
I'm imagining a Daido telling me: "too many mind" and then start looking for more eros in our city, which is quite a considerable task given the average age of citizenship here, so you'll have to excuse the windowtheme. It's just an appetizer, so to speak.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 25, 2018, 08:02:08 am
A feeble attempt at a more Rob-like approach, including faux-framing.
I'm imagining a Daido telling me: "too many mind" and then start looking for more eros in our city, which is quite a considerable task given the average age of citizenship here, so you'll have to excuse the windowtheme. It's just an appetizer, so to speak.


Your appetizer is beautiful!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 25, 2018, 08:16:59 am
Oh, I think she has a certain charm :)
She was HUGE in the gay community... and if she occasionally punched a few blokes in her disambulations down the corridors of television land, it probably did them some good :)

Perhaps charm is relative, and the sense of it a bit too subjective! I have no thermometer within the "happy" community (gotta be sensitive here or risk banishment!) and thus no way of knowing how hugely hot or lukewarm the person may have been... ;-) For my part, I wouldn't even have wanted to photograph her in her time. It wasn't a matter of being indifferent, it was one of actual dislike of an image, though as a person, off-stage, she may have been a delightful buttercup. But from afar, one knows only what's projected.

I'd add: of all the models in this world, if I were to have the choice of shooting pictures of one of them, at her prime, that girl would be Jean Shrimpton: hands down winner by a mile. I don't think anyone since has come close.

As with my revulsion with one, the attraction for this other one is pretty much complete: I just can't imagine Shrimp being a bitch. Again, I never met her, but from the few videos where she speaks, as from her expressions, she is about softness, vulnerabilty, and not in the least like the contemporary model women who threaten to skewer you with every snap. But, perhaps as with Jones, I could be being deluded by image, but a chance I'd have taken with Jean. Fierce women leave me cold; it's not my idea of femininity at all. Yep, I'm always gonna be the obsolete romantic!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 25, 2018, 04:59:51 pm
Enjoyed all the recent pic posts!

Today's maple tree study comes courtesy of the near-infrared spectrum and a 720nm filter.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 25, 2018, 10:16:42 pm
wasps in the winter

This reminds me of my dad & I water-blasting a wasp's nest, along with its inhabitants, into pulp after one of the wasps stung a neighbor. (The nest was in the same maple tree now suffering from leaf separation anxiety.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 26, 2018, 12:07:16 am
Keeping up both guitar playing and lens focusing chops. Two cups of coffee helped with the former while not seeming to harm the latter.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 26, 2018, 05:14:14 pm
Nicer weather leads to (short due to mud) park trail walk for this boy.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 26, 2018, 10:27:02 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on January 27, 2018, 03:58:27 am
Hmm ...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4655/39168211374_ca0ee68504_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22FajDd)Flags (https://flic.kr/p/22FajDd) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 27, 2018, 04:22:20 am
Reminds me of Brexit. Europe won't ever be the same again, and worst of all, nobody will have won anything at all...

The power of photography to express what it sees.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on January 27, 2018, 07:21:19 pm
Ms Coke is going to be jealous that you have taken up the vine. ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 28, 2018, 04:12:15 am
Ms Coke is going to be jealous that you have taken up the vine. ;)

I know, I know...

The only answer is to attempt a delicately balanced ménage à trois; however, I'm not sure I have the energy for that sort of ambition, if I had that ambition, which I'm not sure that I do. Maybe if I increase the grain neither will discover the other? I often wondered what smoke and mirrors were meant to do - I think I'm learning fast. Perhaps the answer lies in layers that are never flattened. But at what cost?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on January 28, 2018, 04:19:57 am
Reminds me of Brexit. Europe won't ever be the same again, and worst of all, nobody will have won anything at all...

Avoid politics, Rob. Not everyone thinks it's a bad thing.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 28, 2018, 04:26:28 am
Avoid politics, Rob. Not everyone thinks it's a bad thing.

Jeremy

Jeremy, that was an artistic statement based upon the effect of the image upon my brain.

Anyway, when did it, art criticism, depend upon peer opinion, whether in the majority or the minority?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 28, 2018, 06:35:51 am
Colour ?
A lot, a little, or none at all.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 28, 2018, 07:52:25 am
Graham,

I think you can safely assume that the cup shot is perfect.

Ms Cup? Except, of course, that what we have is a mug. I see no delicate way of addressing that; the term has not yet been introduced into conversation, but if you are willing to forego political correctness, Ms Mug seems cool with me. But I'd check first.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 28, 2018, 04:33:33 pm
This was meant to be a shot of a red-ribbon in red hair... and at the moment I was about to press the button, she turned her head.

What could I do?

(Sadly a bit damaged by the jpgification)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 28, 2018, 04:43:02 pm
This was meant to be a shot of a red-ribbon in red hair... and at the moment I was about to press the button, she turned her head.

What could I do?

(Sadly a bit damaged by the jpgification)

ETTR?

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: mbaginy on January 29, 2018, 03:15:37 am
Monday!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 29, 2018, 05:58:49 am
Monday!

That one would tempt our friend Seamus!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 29, 2018, 07:33:00 am
This chap seemed very worked up while singing, but wonderfully at peace while tuning...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 29, 2018, 08:39:19 am
This chap seemed very worked up while singing, but wonderfully at peace while tuning...

The zigzag of Zen, Graham.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 29, 2018, 11:00:07 am
ETTR?

;-)

Rob

Or After...forgive me for taking a leap.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 29, 2018, 11:22:58 am
But it's often hard to beat this approach.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on January 29, 2018, 11:54:48 am
But it's often hard to beat this approach.

Indeed, but it's a shame to lose all that glorious red hair, and the first decent sun for a few months as well.

An alternative effort in B&W, still in high-key (lets hope the Lula compression doesn't push her face into burn-out):
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 29, 2018, 12:11:32 pm
Indeed, but it's a shame to lose all that glorious red hair, and the first decent sun for a few months as well.

An alternative effort in B&W, still in high-key (lets hope the Lula compression doesn't push her face into burn-out):

Well, the sun's still there and the hair's still there. The color's gone, but the girl's still there and she's prettier than the color.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 29, 2018, 12:50:14 pm
No competition, the red hair and bow are the interest.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 29, 2018, 01:30:55 pm
No competition, the red hair and bow are the interest.

Wow, K. You like red hair and bows more then girls?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 29, 2018, 01:44:05 pm
Wow, K. You like red hair and bows more then girls?

Hey, what can I say, I love girls women, red, black, white, blonde...

My current favourite redhead (http://images.radiotimes.com/remote/ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p05q5jl8.jpg?quality=60&mode=crop&width=700&height=422) and my wife being blonde is more than happy for me. She would have been the perfect muse for Egon Schiele.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 29, 2018, 01:47:30 pm
Or After...forgive me for taking a leap.

Great depth.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 29, 2018, 02:18:36 pm
Hey, what can I say, I love girls women, red, black, white, blonde...

My current favourite redhead (http://images.radiotimes.com/remote/ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p05q5jl8.jpg?quality=60&mode=crop&width=700&height=422) and my wife being blonde is more than happy for me. She would have been the perfect muse for Egon Schiele.


Red, and in Grenages, as tough and without soul as they come. She did look attractive when she was sleeping in her bath of blood, though, but she was too important to the plot to remain deaded.

I find these French dramas quite gripping. Especially now, as double episodes. Interestingly, both she and other players have made reference to the volume of her breasts. I notice things like that. Perhaps it signals the demise of a remaining bastion of normal appreciation - or even of pride and envy. Me2 will never allow such things to survive... That porc will truly have to run to save its bacon.

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 29, 2018, 02:26:24 pm
Rob, she - Audrey Fleurot - was also in the latest series of Witnesses.

Worth a watch.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 29, 2018, 03:02:42 pm
It's all context. Egon Schiele and the like are in no danger from Me2, whereas The Presidents Club is toast.


Yep, and half a million squids given to the Sick Children's Hospital is supposedly being handed back as coming from soiled sources... I wonder at the sense of it all. I think a hospital and sick kids should not give a shit about the fact that the money comes from a few fat cats with plenty of it. That it is possible to find a hundred girls to attend those functions shows that the agencies have plenty of willing people on their books who think nothing of riotous male exuberance; the shit came from "undercover" plants. How brave of them; how noble that it means kids will probably lose out if the hospital sticks with its silly attitude.

Oh well, that's what a free and hypocritical press does for us all: sells copies and gathers audiences on the back of holding up its dainty, clean little hands in horror.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 30, 2018, 04:54:45 am
Great Britain's all male 'Captains of Industry' putting their hands up young student's skirts and asking "how much for a fuck", well, there's a surprise.

Great Britain's press acting as self appointed guardians of all our morals, well, there's a surprise.

Great Britain's children's charities distancing themselves from these behaviours, well, there's a surprise.


You saw all this? Well, there's a surprise!

Students play hostess games? My girls never told me! That's an ever bigger surprise!

Cap'ns of Industry with roaming hands? Students and schoolboys with roaming hands? Now there's a suprise!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 30, 2018, 05:11:02 am
Rob, she - Audrey Fleurot - was also in the latest series of Witnesses.

Worth a watch.

Yes, I saw the ads for it, Keith, but the Beeb here depends on the atmpospherics, just like Radio Luxembourg used to in Scotland: some nights it works and others not. The only channel that sails through fire, storm and general world shit is Sky News. (Other channels are bundled with the telephone contract's tv and Internet package deal, which is where I pick up on France24.) Yes, other satellite channels also weather storms, but I have stopped looking at them because I drift off...

As a result, I saw none of Witnesses and only got into this latest series of Engrenages a couple of weeks ago, so I missed a lot, but will probably end up with it available later on.

To be honest, I watch hardly any tv because I find trawling pictures on that little iPad far more rewarding. But it's also frustrating when I see images that I know very well and find them wrongly attributed.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 30, 2018, 05:49:12 pm
Someone was writing about shadows as theme, I think.

Here's one from this afternoon:

(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3269_orig.jpg)

Or Picasso, profile of young woman?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 31, 2018, 04:13:58 am
That strikes me as reasonable, Keith; I therefore offer a single, signed print for $ 40,000,000 - a unique snip!

(That might ensure the arrival of a spanking new M10 as well as of a new Shaman. How odd: on the face of it at least, both are of German origin! I might have imagined I'd have gone for an Italian job.)

Oh, on the sale of said print, I shall immediately take on the chore of my French canal trip and faithfully document the windows along the banks of that waterway. And publish it via Steidl; even he must encounter offers he can't refuse! Whilst there, in Germany, I will pick up the wheels, in a fine, greyish chrome.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on January 31, 2018, 05:38:40 am
Yep, and half a million squids given to the Sick Children's Hospital is supposedly being handed back as coming from soiled sources... I wonder at the sense of it all.

There's no sense in it at all, Rob: it's sanctimonious virtue signalling. "Oh, sorry, we can't treat your child's cancer: we've had to spend the money replacing the half million we gave back because it made us feel better". GOS gets hugely privileged, special treatment, far in excess of any other children's hospital and far more than it truly deserves. It's been a source of irritation for years to people who work at those other hospitals. If one good thing comes of this absurd and pointless gesture, it will be that the money is re-distributed to others who need it.

As Vespasian (I think it was) is said to have observed when criticised by his son for levying a tax on public toilets, "pecunia non olet".

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 31, 2018, 08:27:05 am
I've just removed a couple of my posts so as not to pollute this thread.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 31, 2018, 09:16:22 am
There's no sense in it at all, Rob: it's sanctimonious virtue signalling. "Oh, sorry, we can't treat your child's cancer: we've had to spend the money replacing the half million we gave back because it made us feel better". GOS gets hugely privileged, special treatment, far in excess of any other children's hospital and far more than it truly deserves. It's been a source of irritation for years to people who work at those other hospitals. If one good thing comes of this absurd and pointless gesture, it will be that the money is re-distributed to others who need it.

As Vespasian (I think it was) is said to have observed when criticised by his son for levying a tax on public toilets, "pecunia non olet".

Jeremy


Funny you should say that: early during my first couple of years working on my own, my pa-in-law tried to convince me that I was nuts trying to stick to the difficult path of finding fashion photography to shoot in an area not famed for offering much work of that nature. He was a successful surveyor, and told me: I don't care if I measure a shit-house or a palace, the bank is just as happy either way! And he was, objectively speaking, right, but that didn't take cognizance of personality. However, I'm sure the concern was for his daughter's welfare and not directly mine other than by virtue of marriage! (I was very vituous then.)

Yes, it must really be a drag for similar institutions to feel that they somehow lurk in the shadow of famous establishments. If there's a solution, it must lie with some honest political initiative, cross-party, where they sit down and realise - no, admit what they already know - that finance for health can't be done on a small/medium scale: there has to be a massive input of money and as that is ever finite, then other ependitures have to be cut, or taxes raised for everyone to sustain the entire show. But above all, they have to be honest and show what the ideal service we all seem to desire will really cost us, collectively. Perhaps a simple, yes/no referendum on that would make sense. ;-)

I write as one of that certain age where hospìtal visits can become as casual to dropping in somewhere for a coffee. Oh well, at least I rapidly lost my fear of hypodermic syringes.

;-(

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 31, 2018, 12:47:21 pm
Rob still working on convincing my Shaman about the Cayman but truth is I can't even convince myself.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 31, 2018, 01:08:47 pm
Could almost be Audrey Fleurot (https://www.glasshouseshop.co.uk/images/uploads/journal/_big/gingeregonschiele.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 31, 2018, 02:03:15 pm
You have a point!

Remove her from the lawyer character that is all I know about her, and she could be very, well, entertaining!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 31, 2018, 02:14:47 pm
The Easter Islander was the second thing I shot at home after lunch; just before lunch I shot one half of the attached image, and immediately after I caught the next part, and then the Island.

People sometimes look for the distinctions between art (as in drawing and painting) and photography. I think that the reality is that a photographer's art is pretty much confined to his ability to recognize, and then subsequently shoot what he sees well enough to stay with his vision as it was, whereas the other person also has that, but the ability to go that essential step beyond, and create a physical work even without a physical presence doing the really heavy lifting.

Anyway, more shadows. I enjoyed my own cooking yesterday, maybe because I was excited by the two-image shot I recognised the day before. Convenient how shadows appear upside down sometimes. Only reason I twigged.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 31, 2018, 02:23:37 pm
Rob still working on convincing my Shaman about the Cayman but truth is I can't even convince myself.


Yep, it was the same before we sold up and moved to Spain: as I think you know, I was inclined to buy a yacht and live on it, cruising and working the Med. Fortunately, Ann was far more perceptive and insisted that any move meant buying another property on land. Thank God for that; I'd have bankrupted us following that whim!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 31, 2018, 02:56:05 pm
Pornographic cacti!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 31, 2018, 04:29:36 pm
Pornographic cacti!

Thorny issue, but probably grist for some peculiar mills.

All I saw was penumbra acting as a Softar. Told you I loved my 500s!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on February 01, 2018, 10:00:48 am
There's no sense in it at all, Rob: it's sanctimonious virtue signalling. "Oh, sorry, we can't treat your child's cancer: we've had to spend the money replacing the half million we gave back because it made us feel better".

Nothing is simple. Children's cancer research is massively over-funded relative to both its rarity and what you can do about it (it tends to be of genetic origin because, well, children haven't had much time to be exposed to the environment). Pancreatic cancer research is poorly funded and kills almost everyone who gets it... it's much more common, but there are hardly any survivors left to lobby for funding. Breast cancer is hugely funded because survival is very high (but not for all types... sorry Rob) and the lobbying pressure is immense. Lung cancer is poorly funded despite being the most common cancer globally because it's perceived as self-inflicted (probably true in the west, not so much where coal is used for cooking in unventilated kitchens)... and because of the lack of survivors.

So the funds are distributed largely according to feel-good impulses. It's not so surprising that they get re-directed accoding to the mood of the moment.

The other thing you might usefully look at is what percentage of funds actually get to a hospital or a research institute: charity can be very profitable for people putting on the show... and the fact that they choose to support children's cancer rather than say colorectal cancer is itself likely to have been a marketing-driven choice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: GrahamBy on February 03, 2018, 02:35:51 pm
Reason to not own a Monochrom
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 03, 2018, 03:22:22 pm
Reason to not own a Monochrom

Unless as a spare - or a gift...

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on February 03, 2018, 04:11:51 pm
Unless as a spare - or a gift...

:-)

Gifts are always most welcome...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 03, 2018, 06:30:36 pm
Gifts are always most welcome...

Peter

I'm always afraid of them, truth to tell.

Imagine if your rich mistress gave you a beautifully wrapped box at Christmas - or birthday, whichever comes sooner - with a brand new Monoc. inside, and you really wanted an M10, but you had only said you like Leica, sort of in passing, one evening... such things could blow your mind right out of your head. You'd have to smile, and look delighted!

These are the sorts of situations that come to mind when it's late, you are tired, and then when you go to the bedroom you realise you'd forgotten to switch on the electric blanket. Oh well, in another twenty minutes it may be worth risking it. God, it's cold in the office/studio/padded cell!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 03, 2018, 10:35:28 pm
Seeing as we're into M *theory at the moment, here's one from this evening just before sunset. The lens is a Zeiss Jena 50/1.5 Sonnar in Leica Thread Mount. The serial number dates it to ~1946, but who knows exactly when the parts were made. It could even be a later Soviet fake (though likely not for a number of different reasons, foremost that it focuses accurately throughout its range on Leicas but doesn't do so on Soviet LTM cameras). At f/1.5 you can't let your subject stray far from frame center…not an issue here.  :)

-Dave-

*No, not M-theory (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 04, 2018, 05:15:39 am
That's got a lovely glow within the trunk, which I would have expected to be cold and forbidding instead! Very nice shape to everything, but I'm left with a mystery to ponder: from whence the green light? Is it a traffic light suspended on a w¡re I don't see; is it an exotic winter butterfly?

Stringing along with M-Theory: now you understand why I don't take naturally to computers; as with those, my eyes glaze over and it's got nothing to do with physical eyesight problems.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 04, 2018, 03:18:44 pm
That's got a lovely glow within the trunk, which I would have expected to be cold and forbidding instead! Very nice shape to everything, but I'm left with a mystery to ponder: from whence the green light? Is it a traffic light suspended on a w¡re I don't see; is it an exotic winter butterfly?

The lens has a unique color signature: it tends to make warm colors warmer still and cool colors cooler. It's sharp enough wide open in the center but without the razor-y quality of modern optics. My friend Bruce had it on loan for ages…I fetched it back a few days ago.

The green light is a mystery: no matter how carefully I focus it's always fuzzy.

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Stringing along with M-Theory: now you understand why I don't take naturally to computers; as with those, my eyes glaze over and it's got nothing to do with physical eyesight problems.

My physicist friend Kate has in this case much the same reaction.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 05, 2018, 04:16:31 pm
Not to belabor the subject too much (I hope): this is basically the same photo as the earlier one (previous page here) but from a couple hours ago and taken with a 90mm lens at f/2 to help get rid of traffic light distraction while keeping other distractions from creeping in at the frame edges. (I'm rationalizing…the tree trunk makes a good target for keeping up my RF focusing chops given the thoroughly blah weather we're having and my increasing boredom with indoor targets.) Newer lens design too: 1970s (made in 1991) rather than '30s! Different lighting than the earlier pic, but '70s Leitz lenses do have a more green-tilted rendering than Zeiss Jenas.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 06, 2018, 04:25:37 am
Not to belabor the subject too much (I hope): this is basically the same photo as the earlier one (previous page here) but from a couple hours ago and taken with a 90mm lens at f/2 to help get rid of traffic light distraction while keeping other distractions from creeping in at the frame edges. (I'm rationalizing…the tree trunk makes a good target for keeping up my RF focusing chops given the thoroughly blah weather we're having and my increasing boredom with indoor targets.) Newer lens design too: 1970s (made in 1991) rather than '30s! Different lighting than the earlier pic, but '70s Leitz lenses do have a more green-tilted rendering than Zeiss Jenas.

-Dave-

Why did you feel the red light to be a distraction?

If anything, I think it added a lovely counterpoint of life to an otherwise cold and gloomy landscape: just by its local warmth it set off the rest of the wintry emotion.

This second shot is more the basis of a heavy catapult. I've been thinking a lot about catapults recently. Regression, I guess.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 06, 2018, 03:43:44 pm
Why did you feel the red light to be a distraction?

If anything, I think it added a lovely counterpoint of life to an otherwise cold and gloomy landscape: just by its local warmth it set off the rest of the wintry emotion.

Oh, I didn't really…thus my "rationalizing" comment. Once I noticed the streetlight was in the frame I even waited for it to turn.  :)  (Not red but green. Not stop but go.)

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This second shot is more the basis of a heavy catapult. I've been thinking a lot about catapults recently. Regression, I guess.

Yep, the second pic is just a bullseyed focus test. Fine detail near the edge of what my eyes and the camera's RF can accurately discern. After my dad sawed off the now-missing limb (20+ years ago) he joked that he'd be able to string up a bungee rig during winter and shoot snowballs at passing cars.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 06, 2018, 05:02:36 pm
Oh, I didn't really…thus my "rationalizing" comment. Once I noticed the streetlight was in the frame I even waited for it to turn.  :)  (Not red but green. Not stop but go.)

Yep, the second pic is just a bullseyed focus test. Fine detail near the edge of what my eyes and the camera's RF can accurately discern. After my dad sawed off the now-missing limb (20+ years ago) he joked that he'd be able to string up a bungee rig during winter and shoot snowballs at passing cars.  :D

-Dave-

You see? Great minds think alike!

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on February 09, 2018, 12:29:10 pm
This one imposed itself on me, somehow. And I got reminded on this thread.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on February 09, 2018, 02:21:15 pm
As Russ would say, "I was there." And happy just to be so. A full day after storm winds have subsided, the big rollers still crash on the rocks.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: churly on February 10, 2018, 04:27:30 pm
Sheep Crossing.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 11, 2018, 09:17:14 am
One day i'll go there, check that there are no stupid cars in sight, then set up my camera on a tripod and myself on a folding chair, deadsmackinthemiddleoftheroad (motorized traffic isn't really allowed there, don't worry), and then i'll just wait... and wait...

Until then you'll just have to ignore the car.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 11, 2018, 09:31:13 am
Meanwhile grandma is wondering what all the fuzz is about with some idiot below  deadsmackinthemiddleoftheroad on a folding chair. She's clearly the square type...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 11, 2018, 01:10:29 pm
Until then you'll just have to ignore the car.
Or you could just clone it out with an hour or two in PhotoShop.   ;)

P.S. Square Granny is very nice; no cloning needed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Richowens on February 11, 2018, 01:57:52 pm

  Car?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 11, 2018, 04:36:18 pm
One day i'll go there, check that there are no stupid cars in sight, then set up my camera on a tripod and myself on a folding chair, deadsmackinthemiddleoftheroad (motorized traffic isn't really allowed there, don't worry), and then i'll just wait... and wait...

Until then you'll just have to ignore the car.

You're kidding: the car mates with the colours on the right and sits just right with the woman with the backlit hair, which is always nice to watch.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 11, 2018, 04:41:54 pm
But the woman with the backlit hair is much prettier than the car.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 12, 2018, 04:36:58 am
But the woman with the backlit hair is much prettier than the car.

Only because the car is not a '59 Coupe de Ville. In black.

https://www.google.es/search?dcr=0&source=hp&ei=ol-BWpyLFoGqU4Pxp4gO&q=cadillac+coupe+deville+1959&oq=cadillac+coup&gs_l=psy-ab.1.7.0l10.1338.5942.0.10830.13.9.0.4.4.0.107.819.6j3.9.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.13.828...0i131k1.0.dxJJ36rRL7I

Women in a hurry cause me great anxiety. No, I don't know why.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on February 13, 2018, 06:42:59 am
Snow shower over Somerset
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on February 13, 2018, 07:44:36 am
Snow shower over Somerset

A masterpiece!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 13, 2018, 08:00:24 am
Good one!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on February 13, 2018, 08:41:59 am
A masterpiece!

Wow. I wasn't expecting that. Thanks.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 13, 2018, 10:17:48 am
Cool, Bill, in both senses!

We have snow on the local mountain behind Pollensa, and the highest peak on the island, Puig Mayor at circa 1400 metres, is well-covered half-way down.

I used to do brochure photography for so-called Winter Sunshine holidays out here... if anyone tried to go topless on the beach these recent winters they'd both fall right off.

No friggin' space rocket gonna fix that any time soon!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on February 13, 2018, 05:29:46 pm
A sadist's delight. Masochists would probably like it too.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 14, 2018, 08:35:09 am
A sadist's delight. Masochists would probably like it too.


But definitely not M Mono owners. The pain spots were pink on a medium grey, and without the use of the built-in colours I could never have separated/accentuated them; in fact, it was quite a tough gig getting them to register that differently to the normal flesh colours.

The more tools natively available the better, I think.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 16, 2018, 05:20:35 pm
A matter of scale
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on February 16, 2018, 05:44:37 pm
One from this evening
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 18, 2018, 05:22:24 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on February 18, 2018, 05:53:35 pm
Nice one, Armand!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 18, 2018, 06:14:16 pm
Thanks! You might recognize it, it's Chicago.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 18, 2018, 06:25:55 pm
Photographers at work
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on February 19, 2018, 09:40:13 am
A Good Morning...

Peter

Color version here  http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=123312.0
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 19, 2018, 10:20:31 am
A Good Morning...

Peter

Peter, you are so in tune!

That's the sort of thing that provides personal joy when we catch it.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on February 19, 2018, 10:50:45 am
Peter, you are so in tune!

That's the sort of thing that provides personal joy when we catch it.

Rob

Thanks Rob, I greatly appreciate that.

Peter

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 19, 2018, 12:01:00 pm
I love it, too, Peter. But in this case even I prefer the warmth of the color version (I say as a died in the wool B&W fan).

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 19, 2018, 12:25:27 pm
found these while looking around many years ago
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 19, 2018, 10:53:11 pm
Few panoramas from Iceland
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on February 20, 2018, 06:41:22 am
I love it, too, Peter. But in this case even I prefer the warmth of the color version (I say as a died in the wool B&W fan).

Eric

Eric,
I agree all the way. I convert all my photos that I use for reference for Painting. The value is more important, and alowes me to freely  use color in a more creative manner.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 20, 2018, 09:31:14 pm
the road to perdition
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 21, 2018, 03:17:19 pm
My weird maple tree has finally lost most of its leaves. The catalyst was the 12" of wet snow we got early last week…all melted as of last evening thanks to the late March weather we're now having.

Pic taken with an 80+ year-old Zeiss 35/4.5 Orthometar, dating from when a 35mm lens in the 135 format was wide. One of less than 1700 made. It's just okay optically, though it way outperforms its f/2.8 Biogon sibling when used in front of sensors. The Biogon is a superior lens with film, but on the A7rii the Ortho's shallow rear exit pupil means much less filter-stack-induced corner smearing. 16:9 aspect ratio per my usual with this camera. From the monochrome in-camera JPEG.

Second pic also taken this afternoon…a variant on one I posted about a month ago.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on February 22, 2018, 04:25:41 am
the road to perdition

A road to nowhere! Perfect illustration.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 22, 2018, 03:43:39 pm
More larking about in my front yard, this time in 3:2 color with the A7rii and a Zeiss 85/4 Triotar. The lens is the 1950s coated & recomputed version. Both it and its pre-WWII fraternal twin are reputed to be soft-ish, but I haven't found that to be true. Both versions are, however, flare prone. In fact there's a touch of blue ghosting in this pic, in the shadows near the top left corner. (It's more visible in the straight RAW conversion.) The paramedic truck is a distraction but it gives you a more complete look at the camera/lens combo's color response.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 22, 2018, 05:40:24 pm
Alternative maths.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 23, 2018, 12:40:03 am
Alternative maths.
I think you've finally captured the Essential Formula of the Universe, Rob!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 23, 2018, 05:59:48 am
I think you've finally captured the Essential Formula of the Universe, Rob!

The answer is always 42
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 23, 2018, 07:02:06 am

The answer is always 42

Not from this morning, when I supplied the 43rd to Erik K in another thread about sexual politics. (Can one write that today?)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 23, 2018, 09:37:37 am
Metal bridge, from 1905, recently restored. Used to bridge a train-track which has been dismantled during the late 70s. The tracé is still open and visible though as a hiking and biking route, and on some parts the tracks are even in place. It's interesting since I had seen tracks on several occasions and wondered about the backgroundstory. Just recently found out about the bridge and curiosity getting the better of me I went to have a look. I can feel a project emerging from the deepest cellars of my mind...

It's dark admittedly, but I like the dark, moody, wintery feel of it. Seems appropriate for this type of history.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 23, 2018, 02:12:45 pm
Metal bridge, from 1905, recently restored. Used to bridge a train-track which has been dismantled during the late 70s. The tracé is still open and visible though as a hiking and biking route, and on some parts the tracks are even in place. It's interesting since I had seen tracks on several occasions and wondered about the backgroundstory. Just recently found out about the bridge and curiosity getting the better of me I went to have a look. I can feel a project emerging from the deepest cellars of my mind...

It's dark admittedly, but I like the dark, moody, wintery feel of it. Seems appropriate for this type of history.


Dark indeed, and makes me think of WW2.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on February 23, 2018, 02:24:07 pm
Good stuff, Oscar.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 23, 2018, 03:44:34 pm
Remnant of crusader fortress, northern Israel, ~July 1984.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 24, 2018, 09:34:01 am
(http://www.roma57.com/uploads/4/2/8/7/4287956/d-3274_orig.jpg)

Rob

Yes, that's a cool picture.

The spamfilters over here seem to be more effective though...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 24, 2018, 09:57:23 am
Both good ones, Rob and Oscar.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 24, 2018, 12:20:55 pm
Yes, that's a cool picture.

The spamfilters over here seem to be more effective though...

Yes, and the location graphics are better, too!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 24, 2018, 05:56:30 pm
Pause to catch my breath during postprandial exercise tribulations. At least there was no postprandial hypotension that sometimes bites my ass!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 24, 2018, 07:38:29 pm
Not like your usual, but I like it.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 25, 2018, 04:35:49 am
Not like your usual, but I like it.

Eric


Ah Eric, I have to admit the exercise was really a screen for another mermaid hunt. Guess it was just too cold for 'em to risk breaking surface. Maybe I'll find one (probaby stuffed) in a window back in the old town.

As it feels so damned cold these days, perhaps I should really be in Amsterdam where the windows may be more rewarding.

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 25, 2018, 11:20:57 am
Dinner's ready...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 25, 2018, 12:02:59 pm
This is not the correct atmosphere and I would like to shift the vantagepoint slightly, but it serves to illustrate that hints of the rails from the track mentioned earlier still exist in certain locations. Here they are part of a road. This is the location where I first became aware of its existence and wondered whether there was some larger significance to it. The first thing that came to mind is that it may have been in use as one of the routes from camp Westerbork.

Which perhaps explains why I'm seeking a dark, moody, wintery rendition. The WW2 reference mentioned by Rob then seemed quite appropriate to me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 25, 2018, 02:55:13 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 25, 2018, 05:30:50 pm
"Experience Of The Dachau Camp" by a Mr. Apelbaum. (Can't make out his first name.) This was on display at an exhibit in Jerusalem my then girlfriend & I attended with our friends Yehezkel and Dalia Landau in late 1984.

Dalia later wrote *inspired a terrific book, The Lemon Tree, centered on the house she grew up in and the people who had previously lived there.

-Dave-

*Defective memory on my part. The Lemon Tree was written by Sandy Tolan, but the initial spark for the book was an article written by Dalia and published in The Jerusalem Post in 1988.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 25, 2018, 05:31:05 pm
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Interesting; if you look at the thumbnail on a tiny screen, you can get the distinct idea that you are actually looking at a fashion shot of a woman wearing a fur coat.

Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 25, 2018, 05:33:53 pm
This is not the correct atmosphere and I would like to shift the vantagepoint slightly, but it serves to illustrate that hints of the rails from the track mentioned earlier still exist in certain locations. Here they are part of a road. This is the location where I first became aware of its existence and wondered whether there was some larger significance to it. The first thing that came to mind is that it may have been in use as one of the routes from camp Westerbork.

Which perhaps explains why I'm seeking a dark, moody, wintery rendition. The WW2 reference mentioned by Rob then seemed quite appropriate to me.

Didn't you believe in ghosts?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 25, 2018, 05:53:51 pm
Seeing as I do often photograph people (though very seldom post those pics online) here's one: Yehezkel (see previous post), some time in 1984, conducting one of his semi-impromptu discussion sessions on whatever was on his mind that afternoon. Taken on Ektachrome 200, which has held up very well over time.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 25, 2018, 08:09:13 pm
"Experience Of The Dachau Camp" by a Mr. Apelbaum. (Can't make out his first name.) This was on display at an exhibit in Jerusalem my then girlfriend & I attended with our friends Yehezkel and Dalia Landau in late 1984.

Dalia later wrote a terrific book, The Lemon Tree, centered on the house she grew up in and the people who had previously lived there.

-Dave-

I visited camp Dachau once. Interestingly enough that day the camp was occupied by refugees. No, I'm not kidding. They had decided to open the gates only 10 minutes each hour, the remaining 50 minutes the gates were locked. It was a beautiful, sunny day and apart from the horrid history the camp is actually like a well kept commemoration park. So by the time we were ready to leave, the gates were still closed and we sat on the grass to wait for the 10 minute window.

There was a weird sense of irony in watching some of the tourists protesting to the refugees and fulminating about their right to leave.

Not to mention the method of weedcontrol. I kid you not, think about this sentence for a bit:
In camp Dachau, gaspowered burners were the preferred method of weedcontrol...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on February 26, 2018, 03:27:04 am
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It's a wonderful waterfall, Armand. Less snowy than when I was there.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 26, 2018, 03:48:18 pm
I visited camp Dachau once. Interestingly enough that day the camp was occupied by refugees. No, I'm not kidding. They had decided to open the gates only 10 minutes each hour, the remaining 50 minutes the gates were locked. It was a beautiful, sunny day and apart from the horrid history the camp is actually like a well kept commemoration park. So by the time we were ready to leave, the gates were still closed and we sat on the grass to wait for the 10 minute window.

There was a weird sense of irony in watching some of the tourists protesting to the refugees and fulminating about their right to leave.

Not to mention the method of weedcontrol. I kid you not, think about this sentence for a bit:
In camp Dachau, gaspowered burners were the preferred method of weedcontrol...

I've never been to Dachau but I know a man who survived it. Still sharp at age 89! Juli (my girlfriend at the time) and I visited Westerbork in spring 1985 on our journey from the Middle East back to her home in Heidelberg.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 26, 2018, 03:56:31 pm
After days of rain & gloom the sun reappeared this morning. As did the usual refuse on my lawn.  :)  Pic via a 1937 Zeiss Jena 85/2 Sonnar. Uncoated, nickel-plated brass construction, silky smooth operation.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 26, 2018, 04:00:41 pm
Another one from my front lawn early this afternoon.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 26, 2018, 06:02:37 pm

Interesting; if you look at the thumbnail on a tiny screen, you can get the distinct idea that you are actually looking at a fashion shot of a woman wearing a fur coat.

Rob.

I admit I fail to see it.

It's a wonderful waterfall, Armand. Less snowy than when I was there.

Jeremy

It's good that you recognize it, they all look the same to me  ;D
While I got some snow in the Reykjavik area in the southern part, Vik to Glacier lagoon, there wasn't much as it rained quite a lot.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 26, 2018, 11:07:18 pm
Into the darkness
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 27, 2018, 05:01:01 am
I admit I fail to see it.



She's standing there, body facing a bit to the left, her head at the top of the falls, her hands in her pockets, as the fur coat falls right down to the bottom of the picture. The lapels of the coat are close together as her arms and hands hug the coat close. If it helps, the shot would have been made with a wide-angle lens and from about knee height.

I can't stop seeing it!

I made you a copy just now, with the shape outlined in black, but my PS tells me it's the wrong kind of file and so I don't know how to post it, so I dumped it.

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Richowens on February 27, 2018, 11:32:07 am
 That is one tall lady.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 27, 2018, 12:51:11 pm
That is one tall lady.

On my thumbnail, she's a midget!

As suggested, she's more visible in a minor key.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on February 27, 2018, 07:17:30 pm
Tonight's Moon. First time I've seen it after sunset in awhile!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 28, 2018, 07:27:03 am
Apologies, but it's too cold to go outside and take some decent shots.

leafy seadragon
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 01, 2018, 04:02:39 pm
Yesterday's high temperature was 62° F. This is the view from my driveway ~1 hour ago.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 01, 2018, 04:07:38 pm
Yesterday's high temperature was 62° F. This is the view from my driveway ~1 hour ago.

-Dave-

Michigan, right?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 01, 2018, 04:16:29 pm
Here is in SW Michigan 2 weeks ago, 24 hours apart
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 01, 2018, 04:28:25 pm
Michigan, right?

Yup! South thumb side.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 01, 2018, 05:45:06 pm
Iceland, few minutes apart
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 01, 2018, 08:55:59 pm
A fine set.

They could be any wild, wintry place, not necessarily Iceland.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 02, 2018, 02:07:15 pm
Old promises.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 03, 2018, 12:52:40 am
In light of Gibson's possible near-future restructuring, or buyout, or even liquidation…I decided to pounce on one of the lesser known '70s models I've always liked just in case prices on all older Gibbies go up. It's a 1971 Les Paul Recording model. Ironically the LP model favored by Les himself, with electronics and switching designed by him, is also among the least favored by most guitar players. This has nothing to do with the guitar itself and much to do with its "too complex" reputation.

It's one of the stupider aspects of guitar culture that the same people who zoom around effortlessly within the labyrinthine interfaces of digital effects gizmos usually go glassy-eyed with confusion when faced with a guitar featuring anything beyond volume & tone knobs and a pickup selector switch. But this can work to your (that is, my) benefit when seeking out certain high end, small batch instruments with extra features that really should cost far more in the used marketplace than they do. I nearly bought one back in 2001 but then decided not to 'cuz it was so heavy. This one is light for a Les Paul: ~8.25 lbs. It's made from the last of the easily & cheaply available old growth Honduras mahogany. The body is just two slabs of nicely grained wood glued together pancake style. The neck is made from three pieces rather than the traditional single piece…Gibson was already starting to use their wood supply more smartly.

The pickups are an early example of the stacked humbucker design: two coils with the second placed atop the first, wound and wired up for hum-cancelling operation. Each coil has ~600 turns of 28 gauge wire. This is weird for guitar pickups, which are normally wound with far more turns of far thinner wire. But the result is a snappy, punchy, full-frequency sound. Which also contributes to the guitar's lack of popularity: the stereotypical Les Paul sound is about mellow high end, thick midrange and somewhat loose bass. The LP Recording, in comparison, sounds more like a Telecaster.  :D

Anyway, I've had this one for a few days and really like it. Beyond the basic tonality there's lotsa subtle tonal shading available via those knobs & switches.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Richowens on March 03, 2018, 01:51:43 am
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Art/Childs-Play/i-M2cdhZG/1/5afd01fb/L/_DSC3975-L.jpg)


  Just hanging out.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 03, 2018, 05:27:42 pm
This was a popular disco in the 80s.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 03, 2018, 06:15:11 pm
This was a popular disco in the 80s.

An Incredibly ominous image...the stars

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 04, 2018, 05:26:11 am
An Incredibly ominous image...the stars

Peter

Yeah, it just grabbed me the instant I was walking alongside it. It was inevitable death in plain sight, present and future.

Really, that's why I think it so unrealistic to go out with a camera with the intention of making a statement of some sort: I think one is best served just acknowledging that statement whenever it's heard.

Thanks for the nod!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 05, 2018, 12:06:39 pm
Into the light
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on March 05, 2018, 12:40:52 pm
A Hasselfake from the weekend  :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 05, 2018, 05:31:53 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on March 05, 2018, 10:24:26 pm
Into the light
Now this is surreal.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 06, 2018, 12:33:01 am
Now this is surreal.

JR
Indeed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 06, 2018, 09:28:28 am
Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 06, 2018, 09:40:48 am
Wonderful shot, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 06, 2018, 10:18:58 am
You already published that one, Rob, like 3 pages ago...!?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 06, 2018, 10:53:21 am
Another part of the track, where the track is still visible. At this point they used to have one or two old engines parked for a future restoration project that never materialised. They are no longer there. The bright beam at the top middle of the image is the continuation of the route. Need to figure out a way to make that more prominent in a final composition.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 06, 2018, 12:40:20 pm
You already published that one, Rob, like 3 pages ago...!?


Shit!

I used to have a notebook with a list of images already shown, but no idea where it went. Probably took too much time looking through it...

Or, more likely, it's an age thing. Anyway, I've taken it off in order to protect the last showing.

:-(

Here's another bit of age thing:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 06, 2018, 02:41:01 pm
Since my last snow-ish pic we've had a complete melt and then a fresh batch, which is itself nearly gone now. The pothole gods are lovin' it. Via a 1966 Soviet Jupiter-8M, a *clone of the pre-WWII Zeiss Jena 50/2 Sonnar. The aperture ring features evenly spaced full-stop detents, IMO an improvement on the originals.

-Dave-

*Clone may be understating the situation, as there's a good chance the lens was made with at least some of the original Zeiss machining & calibrating equipment.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 07, 2018, 12:47:59 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 07, 2018, 02:02:18 pm
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Nonchalant!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 07, 2018, 05:04:32 pm
Nonchalant!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 07, 2018, 05:04:55 pm
The end
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 09, 2018, 02:10:51 pm
This reminded me that I once bought a langur.

Not a lot of people has done that; not a lot of people has been that dumb.

:-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 09, 2018, 04:18:23 pm
older stuff
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 10, 2018, 03:09:49 am
This reminded me that I once bought a langur.

Not a lot of people has done that; not a lot of people has been that dumb.

:-(

I know this is slowly turning into a comment on your own mortality, but you're now capturing a silhouetted shadow of yourself with a cross...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 10, 2018, 03:53:32 am
I know this is slowly turning into a comment on your own mortality, but you're now capturing a silhouetted shadow of yourself with a cross...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-1OgNqBkVE

I know.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 10, 2018, 04:10:00 am
Our man in Havana.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 10, 2018, 11:03:21 am
Leaves
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 10, 2018, 05:18:40 pm
Winter lingers on.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 10, 2018, 05:46:54 pm
Our man in Havana.

That's looking.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 10, 2018, 05:57:12 pm
That's looking.

Also, that's the pleasure of the gifts that exist out there for us to enjoy; were they not there, it would require a studio and more visual imagination and patience than I think myself to possess.

I think it is Friedlander said pretty much just that, but better.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 11, 2018, 10:02:49 am
Essential instructions.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 11, 2018, 12:18:21 pm
But save the daylight 'cuz Spring is Coming.

Edit: replaced both pics with re-cropped versions. So it goes when you initially process & post photos immediately after taking 'em.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 11, 2018, 03:45:49 pm
Rest
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on March 11, 2018, 04:29:47 pm
The cranes are here. I wasn't prepared, nor ready ... :-(

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4783/39858032835_658c27e5d0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23J7QwF)Ungeheuerwiesen (https://flic.kr/p/23J7QwF) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 11, 2018, 09:20:01 pm
The cranes are here. I wasn't prepared, nor ready ... :-(

In recent years some of the sandhill cranes in my locale have stopped migrating. Last time I was at my fav trail-walking park, in late January, I saw a pair hanging out near the park's nature center. Lotsa people give 'em food despite all the Please Don't Feed The Cranes signs. They've become very tolerant of human presence…except during spring when they've got vulnerable young. A few years ago I got chased away by a honking parent when one of her/his "colts" (that's what they're called, in English anyway) strayed too close to where I was standing & watching.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 12, 2018, 06:14:13 am
But save the daylight 'cuz Spring is Coming.

Edit: replaced both pics with re-cropped versions. So it goes when you initially process & post photos immediately after taking 'em.  :)

-Dave-

I like the atmosphere a lot.

You display (in both pix) a positive attitude that I would immediately have felt compelled to crush by converting into black/white and then taking into the realms of threat and foreboding.

This seems, to me anyway, to illustrate that the subject, per se, can be the least important aspect of an image; that it often serves just as springboard to whatever else if cooking deep inside the mind.

Perhaps that's why I believe that hand-of-man subjects are more relevant to personal photography than nature's freebies. Man-made enables the base usurping of the object by the photographer as a second step along the path of connections between people. I feel no connection whatsoever with a redwood nor even an oak. I find a powerful connection, however, with a '59 Coupe de Ville, despìte never owning not having the most remote chance of owning one, but none at all with an equally distant Ferrari, yet I find both beautiful.

In other words, perhaps hand-of-man ultimately encourages searches of the soul. For those who suspect we have no such thing as a soul, what in the name of all that's good do you search in your private moments?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 12, 2018, 06:28:38 am
I haven't posted here for a long time, don't know why.

Here's one from a while back:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/201404/i-Tpp268t/0/ad0fceec/O/PEG_Nex6_1_04127_20140402.jpg) (https://pegelli.smugmug.com/Other/201404/i-Tpp268t/A)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 12, 2018, 07:32:00 am
I haven't posted here for a long time, don't know why.

Here's one from a while back:

Ha, perfect!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 12, 2018, 09:49:10 am
Ha, perfect!


Perfect? A disgrace!

Why was the gig given to a woman when there are dozens of male models perfectly willing to model absolutely anything at all?

A blatant case of sexual discrimination and, worse, an insult to the innocent passer-by (now forced forever to feel threatened, possibly embarrassed and mocked for her natural, highly unretouched avoirdupois), through the brash, insensitive visual comparison that only a chauvinist pig could have made! Where the Me2 and Porc-eaters when you need one?

But a damned nice picture nonetheless.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 12, 2018, 05:10:40 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 12, 2018, 05:11:05 pm
I like the atmosphere a lot.

You display (in both pix) a positive attitude that I would immediately have felt compelled to crush by converting into black/white and then taking into the realms of threat and foreboding.

This seems, to me anyway, to illustrate that the subject, per se, can be the least important aspect of an image; that it often serves just as springboard to whatever else if cooking deep inside the mind.

Perhaps that's why I believe that hand-of-man subjects are more relevant to personal photography than nature's freebies. Man-made enables the base usurping of the object by the photographer as a second step along the path of connections between people. I feel no connection whatsoever with a redwood nor even an oak. I find a powerful connection, however, with a '59 Coupe de Ville, despìte never owning not having the most remote chance of owning one, but none at all with an equally distant Ferrari, yet I find both beautiful.

In other words, perhaps hand-of-man ultimately encourages searches of the soul. For those who suspect we have no such thing as a soul, what in the name of all that's good do you search in your private moments?

I rarely take a photograph with a concept already in mind. It's why my subject matter tends to be scattered, especially in this thread where I'm often posting shortly after snapping. Stuff that wouldn't make the cut with a more considered edit can get through.  ;)  If I see something that catches my eye and I have a camera handy, I'll use the camera to examine it more closely. Paying closer attention to my surroundings, seeing more precisely, is what I'm after. In this trees and Caddies are equal game.

I think of the "soul" as the aggregate of the participants in one's internal dialogue. If so a "soulless" person is one who lacks the capacity for self-scrutiny and -reflection. I *notice in myself a strong cautious inner voice, a more reticent dark one (check out an essay or two in John Gray's book Straw Dogs for an idea of what this voice sounds like) and a strong sanguine voice. The latter one seems to have solid control over my visual cortex.  :)  I was in Jerusalem on the first day of the first Palestinian intifada in late 1987. Took many photos that day, yet few indicating anything unusual going on, even as rocks were flying and tires were burning. I'd make a crap battle photographer.

-Dave-

*There must be at least four inner participants then, including the one noticing & evaluating the other three.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 12, 2018, 10:42:54 pm
Just finished restringing a guitar I'm breaking in for a friend of a friend. It's a Collings 290, one of a number of current small-batch instruments that earn the "better Gibson than a Gibson" reputation. It's based on the Les Paul TV model from the 1950s, which featured the same "limed mahogany" finish commonly used at the time on TV & HiFi cabinets. It's owner, new to electric guitars, wanted me to make sure everything was in order. Not that I've had to do anything other than put on his strings of choice…it's a Collings! The wraparound bridge (pictured) even has a functional intonation pattern. You'll see it if you know what I mean.  ;)  Because of this the guitar plays nicely in tune up & down the neck, unlike most of the originals I've tried out.

The 290 name comes from the guitar's two P-90 pickups and also from US-290 in Texas. (Collings is located in Austin.) These particular P-90s are made by Harry Häussel in Germany and are both strong and clear. The guitar is light & resonant and plays & sounds terrific. I'm jealous.

Photo taken with a 1950s Zeiss-Opton 50/1.5 Sonnar at f/2.8, mounted on a Sony A7rii via a lovely Yeenon adapter with a built-in focusing helical. The Yeenon allows much closer focusing than do the old Contax rangefinder cameras: ~40cm. Focusing action is very smooth. And the focus ring turns in the proper Leica/Canon direction rather than the backwards Contax/Nikon/Pentax one.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 13, 2018, 04:26:05 am

Perfect? A disgrace!

Why was the gig given to a woman when there are dozens of male models perfectly willing to model absolutely anything at all?

A blatant case of sexual discrimination and, worse, an insult to the innocent passer-by (now forced forever to feel threatened, possibly embarrassed and mocked for her natural, highly unretouched avoirdupois), through the brash, insensitive visual comparison that only a chauvinist pig could have made! Where the Me2 and Porc-eaters when you need one?

But a damned nice picture nonetheless.

You said it yourself Rob: in photography we can only depict reality, and if we consider it a little longer, the truth can never be politically correct now, can it?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 13, 2018, 07:25:12 am
I rarely take a photograph with a concept already in mind. It's why my subject matter tends to be scattered, especially in this thread where I'm often posting shortly after snapping. Stuff that wouldn't make the cut with a more considered edit can get through.  ;)  If I see something that catches my eye and I have a camera handy, I'll use the camera to examine it more closely. Paying closer attention to my surroundings, seeing more precisely, is what I'm after. In this trees and Caddies are equal game.

I think of the "soul" as the aggregate of the participants in one's internal dialogue. If so a "soulless" person is one who lacks the capacity for self-scrutiny and -reflection. I *notice in myself a strong cautious inner voice, a more reticent dark one (check out an essay or two in John Gray's book Straw Dogs for an idea of what this voice sounds like) and a strong sanguine voice. The latter one seems to have solid control over my visual cortex.  :)  I was in Jerusalem on the first day of the first Palestinian intifada in late 1987. Took many photos that day, yet few indicating anything unusual going on, even as rocks were flying and tires were burning. I'd make a crap battle photographer.

-Dave-

*There must be at least four inner participants then, including the one noticing & evaluating the other three.


Dave, things are worse (or should that be better?) than you suspected: there's also a powerfully Freudian one at work: have your collective ids and egos not noted the fascination with orifices, naturally sealed and thus frustrating, within your recent photography of the family tree out there, both in fair weather and foul?

But in direct contradiction (or is it culmination of a subliminal fear?) your musical interest resides in holeless(?) electronic instruments that ape those other, naturally functioning ones with holes. This is very interesting, and not just in the Rowan and Martin sense of interesting. Or is it in precisely that sense of interesting?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 13, 2018, 08:04:03 am
Marilyn; what a pretty name. First came across it in school, where it was borne by the daughter of a Canadian missionary. The next time, it was in Photoplay, where it had nothing to do with missionaries of any kind.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 13, 2018, 08:38:26 am
Great catch, Rob. Besides being significant, street's fun.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 13, 2018, 09:28:36 am
Great catch, Rob. Besides being significant, street's fun.

Thanks; yes, it is indeed a great reason for owning cameras from which one no longer expects any financial return! In my own case, I get a lot of pleasure from coming up with titles that pop into my mind.

That they do, that they are obviously triggered by something other than the placing of names in a hat, gives me a feeling that there is more in what the eye sees, that the ear hears, that can easily be explained. So apart from the obvious visual buzz that snaps give me, I enjoy (sometimes) the further revelations of myself that I discover through them.

How delighfully complex the world beyond the door through which photography leads us!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 13, 2018, 10:06:13 am
...where it had nothing to do with missionaries of any kind.

Depends on the position one takes (on the issue) ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 13, 2018, 11:52:13 am
Sometimes my two hobbies collide  8)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/201803/i-TjDBKcb/0/24f57ac4/XL/PEG_NEX5_1_07680_20180309-XL.jpg) (https://pegelli.smugmug.com/Other/201803/i-TjDBKcb/A)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 13, 2018, 12:16:42 pm
Depends on the position one takes (on the issue) ;)

Alas, poor Marilyn, I never knew her well...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 13, 2018, 12:19:11 pm
Sometimes my two hobbies collide  8)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/201803/i-TjDBKcb/0/24f57ac4/XL/PEG_NEX5_1_07680_20180309-XL.jpg) (https://pegelli.smugmug.com/Other/201803/i-TjDBKcb/A)

So, does an embouchure work better with medium or small formats?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 13, 2018, 02:40:22 pm
Dave, things are worse (or should that be better?) than you suspected: there's also a powerfully Freudian one at work: have your collective ids and egos not noted the fascination with orifices, naturally sealed and thus frustrating, within your recent photography of the family tree out there, both in fair weather and foul?

But in direct contradiction (or is it culmination of a subliminal fear?) your musical interest resides in holeless(?) electronic instruments that ape those other, naturally functioning ones with holes. This is very interesting, and not just in the Rowan and Martin sense of interesting. Or is it in precisely that sense of interesting?

;D  Are the things we project onto others not inevitably the very things we wish to avoid seeing in ourselves? (That's a paraphrase of someone, I think…)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 13, 2018, 02:52:35 pm
So, does an embouchure work better with medium or small formats?

Rob
I thought that was obvious, small formats of course ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 13, 2018, 04:41:21 pm
;D  Are the things we project onto others not inevitably the very things we wish to avoid seeing in ourselves? (That's a paraphrase of someone, I think…)

-Dave-


Not a parrot phrase at all: a deep, psychological study of photographers at large, methinks. Well, sometimes.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 13, 2018, 06:59:30 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on March 14, 2018, 02:05:31 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 14, 2018, 02:23:17 pm
You just wish you could get on some trains, but unfortunately that's not always possible

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Events/Dyxum-Meet-16Oct2010-Naarden/i-9bkhRC6/0/a04a6b19/O/PEG_A700_12220_20101017.jpg) (https://pegelli.smugmug.com/Events/Dyxum-Meet-16Oct2010-Naarden/i-9bkhRC6/A)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 14, 2018, 03:29:51 pm
In keeping with today's mono vibe…from my yard earlier this afternoon.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 15, 2018, 10:19:56 am
For the birds.

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 15, 2018, 11:28:32 am
Another good grab, Rob. You make me strain at the bit and want to get out and do that kind of shooting. Instead I'm gonna have to shoot a play's dress rehearsal on Sunday. I enjoy doing that, but it's not the same kind of enjoyment as street is.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 15, 2018, 12:21:57 pm
Another good grab, Rob. You make me strain at the bit and want to get out and do that kind of shooting. Instead I'm gonna have to shoot a play's dress rehearsal on Sunday. I enjoy doing that, but it's not the same kind of enjoyment as street is.

I understand only too well.

I'm almost dizzy trawling this little coastal resort looking for stuff that will have vanished come the clean-up, and summer's tourist crush. I crave the rush of a city and its constantly renewed landscape of motifs and people and the signs of life. Realistically, though, the real estate economy appears to indicate that I will end my days here instead. Could certainly be a lot worse: at least I have a home!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on March 15, 2018, 01:52:01 pm
I was up very early this morning, couldn't sleep ...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4771/26957737888_0fb4f08e1e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H5ashh)Dawn (https://flic.kr/p/H5ashh) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 15, 2018, 02:52:15 pm
I was up very early this morning, couldn't sleep ...

Is that your window? The one with the light on?   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on March 15, 2018, 03:18:00 pm
Is that your window? The one with the light on?   ;)
No, it‘s not ... but when I walked around to get rid of a &%#€§) headache I watched out whether somebody else was awake, too. of course there were. No bad photographic opportuity, artificial light in the blue hour. In the evening theres too much of it, in the morning just few spots, quite nice. But, honestly, I‘d rather like to sleep that time ...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 15, 2018, 03:34:10 pm
I sympathize. I'm pretty good at sleeping at that hour of the day. That's why I don't have any good (or bad) sunrise shots.   ;)

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 15, 2018, 05:20:44 pm
Before adding to the monochrome pics yesterday I'd intended to post this one.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 15, 2018, 05:54:36 pm
Here's an urban wanderer

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 15, 2018, 10:52:24 pm
Before adding to the monochrome pics yesterday I'd intended to post this one.

Seeing my snap above just now, the attached alt version seems kinda obvious. Duh…

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 16, 2018, 08:55:14 am
From a recent trip to Rajasthan. A couple of images, the first posted elsewhere, Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM, @ f/2 and the second, Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH @ f/4

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_1.jpg)

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Daydream.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 16, 2018, 09:19:46 am
Absolute great these two, colours, pose, focus on the essentials and a lot more to like!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 16, 2018, 09:34:56 am
I'm pretty good at sleeping at that hour of the day. That's why I don't have any good (or bad) sunrise shots.   ;)

Eric

There is always a positive way to look at anything and everything...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 16, 2018, 11:07:53 am
Absolute great these two, colours, pose, focus on the essentials and a lot more to like!

If you look at Keith's website you will realise that the two pictures from India fit perfectly within his highly developed visual ethic of colours and unconfused motif.

There is seldom any unnecessary item or distraction within the frame. That really does take a lot of confidence and, also, instant recognition of what's right when the image has to happen quickly.

Just another of the things you have or do not have in your box of tools. Or at least, so I believe.

Another thing I note is this: how remarkable the apparent ease of transition from a world based on 6x6 to a different one based on 24 x 36!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 16, 2018, 12:11:09 pm
Absolute great these two, colours, pose, focus on the essentials and a lot more to like!

Thanks Pieter, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 16, 2018, 12:15:38 pm
If you look at Keith's website you will realise that the two pictures from India fit perfectly within his highly developed visual ethic of colours and unconfused motif.

There is seldom any unnecessary item or distraction within the frame. That really does take a lot of confidence and, also, instant recognition of what's right when the image has to happen quickly.

Just another of the things you have or do not have in your box of tools. Or at least, so I believe.

Another thing I note is this: how remarkable the apparent ease of transition from a world based on 6x6 to a different one based on 24 x 36!

Rob


Rob, I'd put that down to a background as a painter and illustrator working with no end of differing formats. What hasn't been quite so easy has been the transition from tripod based shooting to handheld: my hands have become less steady with age :-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 16, 2018, 03:43:31 pm


Rob, I'd put that down to a background as a painter and illustrator working with no end of differing formats. What hasn't been quite so easy has been the transition from tripod based shooting to handheld: my hands have become less steady with age :-(

I don't find that my hands shake much, but what has changed is that instead of the usual 1/125 or 1/250 speeds that were my normal zone, digital has pushed me way up the range and the lens more often than not almost wide open. Perhaps because DOF no longer matters much, and I have no need to show a sense of location just to keep clients happy and justify travel.

I agree, though, that 6x6 was almost inevitably tripod-bound! Thank God I left that behind.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 16, 2018, 03:57:54 pm
Puerto Pollensa. On a cold day.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 16, 2018, 08:35:05 pm
I agree, though, that 6x6 was almost inevitably tripod-bound! Thank God I left that behind.
I can't agree with you about this, Rob. My 6x6 Mamiya 6 RF camera was such a joy to use, and I never once put it on a tripod. It was really easy to hand-hold, and it's the one camera I really regret leaving behind when I went over to the (digital) Dark Side.

Cheers,

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on March 17, 2018, 12:00:09 am

A fine photograph:

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Daydream.jpg)
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 17, 2018, 12:18:20 am
A fine photograph:

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Daydream.jpg)
I agree!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 17, 2018, 04:09:44 am
I agree!

+1

The angular graphics encompassing a faceless individual, the subtle colors and tones. This image certainly stands out. An impressively beautiful capture.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 17, 2018, 05:12:50 am
+1

The angular graphics encompassing a faceless individual, the subtle colors and tones. This image certainly stands out. An impressively beautiful capture.

Vermeer.

And not an earring in sight!

As I often say, you can't beat a painter.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 17, 2018, 08:14:11 am
Vermeer.

And not an earring in sight!

As I often say, you can't beat a painter.

Rob

My granddad used to be a reasonably accomplished fine-art painter. It rubbed off on the grandchildren. If your theory holds, i'm very apparently squandering my talents...

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 17, 2018, 08:46:13 am
My granddad used to be a reasonably accomplished fine-art painter. It rubbed off on the grandchildren. If your theory holds, i'm very apparently squandering my talents...

;-(

Have you tried seriously to paint?

I'm just about through with lunch - beautiful hake today - and as a side-dish, the web has me exploring the differences between Manet and Monet.

Years of looking for expensive books has become almost irrelevant today; there is so much out there to look at, but as ever, not always easy to tell where reality ends and bad information begins.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on March 17, 2018, 11:20:32 am
+1

The angular graphics encompassing a faceless individual, the subtle colors and tones. This image certainly stands out. An impressively beautiful capture.
Can't say it better. Excellent!

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 17, 2018, 11:23:29 am
Have you noticed the echoing of the scarf and skirt in the painting on the wall?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 17, 2018, 11:32:53 am
Have you noticed the echoing of the scarf and skirt in the painting on the wall?

Yes
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 17, 2018, 01:44:46 pm
Winter is back, but perhaps a final attempt to hold back the inevitable. Anyway, caught in the morning glow of yesterday:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 17, 2018, 02:20:53 pm
Winter is back, but perhaps a final attempt to hold back the inevitable. Anyway, caught in the morning glow of yesterday:

Haha, looking at the shadow, she(?) would be in serious need of a haircut... =8-/
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on March 17, 2018, 03:24:59 pm
Winter is back

Indeed.
:-(
Just home from some shooting, I feel like an icicle. Only -2/-3 Celsius, but that east wind. My hands feel clumsy even after a hot bath! 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 18, 2018, 09:50:14 am
Fairly weird. I call this "Levitating Branch."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 18, 2018, 09:51:27 am
And another example of True Street Photography: "Cracks."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 18, 2018, 12:26:48 pm
Many thanks for the comments on the seated lady, much appreciated.

Here's another shot, perhaps more typical of the area. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM, @ around f/4 - those who use these antiquated cameras will know there's no recording of aperture to the metadata ;-(

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 18, 2018, 01:14:59 pm
Many thanks for the comments on the seated lady, much appreciated.

Here's another shot, perhaps more typical of the area. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM, @ around f/4 - those who use these antiquated cameras will know there's no recording of aperture to the metadata ;-(

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_2.jpg)

Reminds me of a scene in Lethal Weapon...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 18, 2018, 05:10:05 pm
Fairly weird. I call this "Levitating Branch."

Concept Copyright Breach!  ;D

(I posted a 3:2 version of this last summer.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 18, 2018, 05:17:42 pm
Concept Copyright Breach!  ;D

(I posted a 3:2 version of this last summer.)

-Dave-

Both are quite intriguing!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 18, 2018, 05:23:01 pm
Sorry, Dave. I must have missed yours.
Mine was actually dangling by a fishing line (not visible in the photo, I hope) that had caught in the tree.
I'm sure yours was more purely levitating.   ;)

-Eric

P.S. Thanks, Armand.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 18, 2018, 05:25:27 pm
Mine was actually dangling by a fishing line (not visible in the photo, I hope) that had caught in the tree.

I had a suspicion that might be the case seeing similar stuff but you can't see it on your photo so one can only guess.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on March 19, 2018, 09:42:20 am
Somehow I found this pretty interesting. Stood there long time till I got it "right". I'm afraid it's not so interesting for others?


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 19, 2018, 10:53:46 am
I understand; the image has geometric equilibrium even though at first glance one might think that it does not.

Sarah Moon wrote (and I can only paraphrase, because to find her relevant video, though I have it, would take me all day), "I would love to make a photograph where nothing happens, but for nothing to happen something must happen first." I reserve doubts about the logic of that idea, but as a supreme artist, why would she require the justification and burden of logic? So yes, I can accept that she would instantly know where your photograph was trying to lead her, quite without any need for captions or similar thought signposts.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 19, 2018, 04:15:13 pm
Sorry, Dave. I must have missed yours.
Mine was actually dangling by a fishing line (not visible in the photo, I hope) that had caught in the tree.
I'm sure yours was more purely levitating.   ;)

Oh yes, of course! *Magic.  :D

-Dave-

*aka spider silk
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 19, 2018, 04:16:30 pm
Can't remember if I posted this before; hope not.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 19, 2018, 09:36:37 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 19, 2018, 11:36:58 pm
Somehow I found this pretty interesting. Stood there long time till I got it "right". I'm afraid it's not so interesting for others?
It works nicely for me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 19, 2018, 11:41:23 pm
I am amused by the juxtaposition of the latest offerings from Rob and Armand, one B&W and the other color, but they are both "alleys" of sorts, with very similar compositions.   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on March 20, 2018, 09:55:09 am
There are fewer Exmoor Ponies than there are Giant Pandas. Just saying.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 20, 2018, 10:47:09 am
I am amused by the juxtaposition of the latest offerings from Rob and Armand, one B&W and the other color, but they are both "alleys" of sorts, with very similar compositions.   ;)

It was unintentional, I'm in the process of trimming my photo collection as I have way too many (started with 130k +) and I passed by this where I liked the atmosphere. Technically it doesn't have enough DOF though.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 20, 2018, 04:10:37 pm
I'm afraid this one may also be lacking in DOF.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 20, 2018, 04:14:29 pm
But when I was younger I knew how to work the aperture ring.

Autumn 1983, Kodachrome (probably 25).

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 21, 2018, 03:02:47 pm
Not Louisiana Rain.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 21, 2018, 03:23:09 pm
Another close focus exercise earlier this afternoon.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 21, 2018, 05:16:25 pm
shadows
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 21, 2018, 05:45:29 pm
Not Louisiana Rain.

Rob
Painting at it's best!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 21, 2018, 06:26:28 pm
Painting at it's best!

Peter


Right, but I wouldn't use canvas if I were ever to print it! Canvas deserves better.

Thanks - ;-)

Rob

P.S.

It's that tree you like, isn't it!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 22, 2018, 06:23:54 am
Not Louisiana Rain.

Very atmospheric, but I do hope this isn't the result of recent atmospherics.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 22, 2018, 06:36:32 am
Another from India, this time one of the many kids who demanded our attention. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM, @ f/2.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_Boy.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 22, 2018, 11:17:33 am
Very atmospheric, but I do hope this isn't the result of recent atmospherics.

;-)

Well, we have snow on the two highest peaks that I can see from home... bit late in the year for that!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 22, 2018, 01:47:15 pm

It's that tree you like, isn't it!

Hum......Maybe...????

Peter

P.S.

Yes
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 22, 2018, 02:57:09 pm
mountain
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 22, 2018, 09:56:42 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on March 23, 2018, 04:50:31 am
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Perfect for B/W!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 23, 2018, 12:15:29 pm
According to Tony Soprano, "remember when" is the worst kind of conversation.

I prefer to think of it as proof that one existed, at least a few minutes ago when the conversation started.

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 23, 2018, 04:39:49 pm
That necklace doesn't look a bit like Tony Soprano.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 23, 2018, 05:00:01 pm
That necklace doesn't look a bit like Tony Soprano.
Eric,
That's a very true statement...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 23, 2018, 07:13:31 pm
Perfect for B/W!

Thank you!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 23, 2018, 07:13:59 pm
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 23, 2018, 08:38:38 pm
Weeping tombstone.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 23, 2018, 08:39:35 pm
i
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 24, 2018, 10:26:41 am
Nice graphics, Eric, but personally speaking, I think I'd prefer being up on a mantlepiece or somewhere more family-oriented where I could hear what the hell they were all saying after I'm gone! For a start, it would be more comfortable during the winter, don't you think?

Stuck in a hole, just like a cat digs for its poop, doesn't seem at all fitting, somehow.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 24, 2018, 11:00:50 am
I think I'd prefer being up on a mantlepiece or somewhere more family-oriented where I could hear what the hell they were all saying.

Rob
Amongst the trees for me please...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 24, 2018, 12:21:41 pm
Amongst the trees for me please...

Peter


Peter, isn't there a view of the trees from inside the house, where you wouldn't get all wet and look like one of Sally Mann's more somber experiments in body farming?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 24, 2018, 01:45:25 pm

Peter, isn't there a view of the trees from inside the house, where you wouldn't get all wet and look like one of Sally Mann's more somber experiments in body farming?

Rob

Burn me and spread me...after all, the idea of being in a cold damp hole in the ground is problematic with my Arthritis.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 24, 2018, 04:31:31 pm
My dad resides, per his wishes, in a handful of his favorite fishing spots…and also along a trail in the park where I still often walk.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 24, 2018, 06:15:28 pm
Burn me and spread me...after all, the idea of being in a cold damp hole in the ground is problematic with my Arthritis.

Peter


That's deep; arthritis is a pain, wherever you have it. So far, I think I have been spared, but I'm taking no bets.

It's been pissing all day, very cold, and I haven't made a snap in a couple of weeks. I really have to pull myself out of this lethargy - just because the weather gives me a good excuse doesn't mean I feel good about it. But what are you gonna do? It is what it is, and that's how it goes at times. Worse, the clock changes tomorrow night and I have an appointment at 9.15 with the cardio for a test on Monday... it'll feel like 8.15 and I'm not good on the mornings anyway. Problems, problems...

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 25, 2018, 08:44:04 am
My dad resides, per his wishes, in a handful of his favorite fishing spots…and also along a trail in the park where I still often walk.

-Dave-
Dave,
I'm sure when you walk in that park it's a wonderful visit with your Dad.

That's what I wish for my loved ones... to walk in the places that I love and that I have made a part of life's work.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 25, 2018, 08:55:52 am
+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on March 25, 2018, 03:47:43 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 25, 2018, 05:15:42 pm
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The edgy look to this photo works IMO.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 25, 2018, 05:20:36 pm
I'm sure when you walk in that park it's a wonderful visit with your Dad.

That's what I wish for my loved ones... to walk in the places that I love and that I have made a part of life's work.

Yes, to both sentiments.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 26, 2018, 12:53:36 pm
Another from India. Bling camera, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM, @ f/2.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/The_Visit.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on March 26, 2018, 01:04:38 pm
Another from India. Bling camera, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM, @ f/2.

I am very much enjoying your images from India, especially the people images. I really like how you use shallow depth of field in some of your images. This one is very interesting, the nice balance of shadows, shapes and people. Makes the image dynamic. Also, you have stasis and motion in the people. Excellent work!

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 26, 2018, 02:21:57 pm
Keith, lucky for the Bling to have landed an artist!

As ever, beautiful colours you create/capture/produce and the content would be very hard to beat, too.

Makes much of Europe look flat.

As chance would have it, I was looking at a Jeanloup Sieff set of pix in Pinterest over lunch, and where I think he used his M4 or whatever, the dynamics are just, well, different. I know he used several other types of camera too, Rollei TLR, Hassy 500, Pentax, Nikon, but the Bling with 21mm stands out. How wide does your kit go at the moment?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 26, 2018, 02:40:21 pm
I don't think I posted this one before, last in a quartet or so of a particular window in the Port.

Helmut Newton also played around with mannequins in some of his fashion shots; in a few, it's hard to spot this unless you start to question the scary situations in which they do their thing. And all that before Photoshop. With PS he could probably have fooled everybody, but then, isn't it also possible that the little deception, when seen for what it is, is also part of the deal, the interest?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 26, 2018, 04:27:53 pm
Earlier this afternoon. 75/2.8 lens…frames like a 60mm in the 135 format.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 26, 2018, 04:32:08 pm
Another from India. Bling camera, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM, @ f/2.

Lurvly color!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 26, 2018, 04:33:50 pm
JR, thanks, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 26, 2018, 04:48:05 pm
Keith, lucky for the Bling to have landed an artist!

As ever, beautiful colours you create/capture/produce and the content would be very hard to beat, too.

Makes much of Europe look flat.

As chance would have it, I was looking at a Jeanloup Sieff set of pix in Pinterest over lunch, and where I think he used his M4 or whatever, the dynamics are just, well, different. I know he used several other types of camera too, Rollei TLR, Hassy 500, Pentax, Nikon, but the Bling with 21mm stands out. How wide does your kit go at the moment?

Rob

Rob, I wish I could take credit for both the colour and content but if Rajasthan excels at anything it would be the combination.

That said, I do find I prefer the Adobe colour profiles in Adobe Camera Raw to the Leica Embedded versions. The reds in particular tend towards overkill in the latter. But as with any post work it's about trying to get the best out of the files and matching one's vision. Perhaps the embedded profiles could give a much need boost to flat old Europe ;-)

The widest lens I have is 21mm and it's a real cracker, but if that's not wide enough there's quite a choice including M fit Voigtlander lenses as wide as 10mm!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 26, 2018, 05:01:06 pm
Earlier this afternoon. 75/2.8 lens…frames like a 60mm in the 135 format.

Lurvly color!


Back at you.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 27, 2018, 05:45:19 am
Yesterday, after reading some newspapers on the local town elections in the Netherlands

Leaning left, leaning right  :-\
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 27, 2018, 09:15:41 am
Pieter,

It looks to me as if you favor leaning left.   :D

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 27, 2018, 09:38:22 am
Pieter,

It looks to me as if you favor leaning left.   :D

Eric

That's only from the viewer's perspective, no?

It's the other thing that keeps me awake at night: so what if we finally manage to contact the aliens, and after a large UN convention weighting the options of hostile or friendly beings, we decide to invite them over. How are you going to give directions?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 27, 2018, 09:51:33 am
Pieter,

It looks to me as if you favor leaning left.   :D

Eric
For myself I don't know, it's actually the tree in front that favoured leaning left, but it seems outnumbered by some others in the background   :-\  ;)

 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: LesPalenik on March 27, 2018, 10:33:28 am
It seems that the further north, the more of them are leaning left.
All the way to Alaska. There the situation reverses.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 27, 2018, 10:43:41 am
It seems that the further north, the more of them are leaning left.
All the way to Alaska. There the situation reverses.


I guess it depends if you're coming or going.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 27, 2018, 04:07:12 pm
The main thing I like about trees is that unless impeded they all aim upward.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 28, 2018, 07:30:26 am
I'm sure they must have some department for this...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 28, 2018, 07:49:14 am
Good shooting, Oscar.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 28, 2018, 07:51:13 am
The main thing I like about trees is that unless impeded they all aim upward.

-Dave-

I am in agreement, 100%

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 28, 2018, 10:07:26 am
The main thing I like about trees is that unless impeded they all aim upward.

-Dave-
Agree!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on March 29, 2018, 06:15:26 am
Leftist trees in Italy after the elections 2018 :(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 29, 2018, 03:41:05 pm
...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 29, 2018, 04:16:50 pm
More trees, leaning right this time, old weathered and one of them infected with fungus. What does that tell us? ;)


Btw, picture taken with a 1958 lens, bought new by my father then and still regularly in use by me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 29, 2018, 04:17:42 pm
From a few evenings ago. Too cloudy to see the big Lunar lamp so I settled for a couple lesser ones.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 29, 2018, 04:22:59 pm
If all the left- & right-leaning trees rot and fall down that'll free up space for healthier trees to grow.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 30, 2018, 06:36:17 am
If all the left- & right-leaning trees rot and fall down that'll free up space for healthier trees to grow.  ;)

-Dave-

LEFT...RIGHT...it all depends upon which direction you approach the subject.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 30, 2018, 07:06:30 am
LEFT...RIGHT...it all depends upon which direction you approach the subject.

Peter


You might be in breach of copyright:

Check post #1354

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 30, 2018, 07:13:10 am

You might be in breach of copyright:

Check post #1354

:-)

Rob

Rob,
It appears I agree with that brilliant post... I'll need to secure one time worldwide rights to that concept. Hope the cost isn't prohibitive!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 30, 2018, 07:28:43 am
Peter,

The cost is exceptionally steep: it requires that you post some more street photographs.

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 30, 2018, 07:31:26 am
Peter,

The cost is exceptionally steep: it requires that you post some more street photographs.

:-)

Rob

He don't do street, he do the same dark and moody artsy fartsy stuff that you do.

We just live with it...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: pegelli on March 30, 2018, 07:35:24 am
LEFT...RIGHT...it all depends upon which direction you approach the subject.

Peter
Well, maybe I flipped the image, very easy to do in LR  ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on March 30, 2018, 07:36:36 am
Peter,

The cost is exceptionally steep: it requires that you post some more street photographs.

:-)

Rob

Rob,

A pound of flesh...Dear God!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 30, 2018, 07:37:12 am
He don't do street, he do the same dark and moody artsy fartsy stuff that you do.

We just live with it...

I wrote that the cost would be steep; I didn't specify to whom.

:-)

Rob


P.S. This is going down as I have lunch in an alternative place to my regular Frenchman's; as with many others, come fiestas and the like, and costs are 50% higher... thanks, but no thanks! This real-time conversation provides a pleasant distraction over and beyond the Louisiana radio one.

Wonderful deal, wifi and the like.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 30, 2018, 04:43:09 pm
leaves
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on March 31, 2018, 11:43:29 am
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 31, 2018, 12:39:35 pm
Another from India. Photographic jewellery, 35mm Summilux ASPH @ f/2.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Kitchen.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 31, 2018, 03:32:51 pm
leaves

Looking very forward to seeing leaves colored something other than dingy brown!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 31, 2018, 04:27:09 pm
Selfie in the cold, but great camera-holding technique, nonetheless.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 01, 2018, 04:04:20 pm
I'm enjoying using Affinity Photo on my iPad and so have decided to reprocess some of my Grand Canyon Nat. Park photos from around this time 4 years ago.

"Marlboro Man."

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on April 01, 2018, 06:00:37 pm
Selfie in the cold, but great camera-holding technique, nonetheless.

Rob,
The very best...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 05, 2018, 04:39:54 pm
Another from 2014, though not at the Grand Canyon but rather in my yard. One of those "looking thoughtful in-between poses" pics.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on April 06, 2018, 04:36:25 am
 :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 06, 2018, 05:29:24 am
Or, looking thoughtful in-between eating grass pics.

;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 06, 2018, 12:49:15 pm
Another from India. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM, @ f/2.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Doorstep2.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 06, 2018, 01:54:34 pm
I'm really enjoying your Indian photos, Keith.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 06, 2018, 02:17:22 pm
I'm really enjoying your Indian photos, Keith.

Yup!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on April 06, 2018, 02:53:01 pm
I'm really enjoying your Indian photos, Keith.

Eric

+1. I think this latest might be my favourite so far.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 06, 2018, 05:09:58 pm
Thanks guys, I have to say I enjoyed making them.

The people we met in India were proud and dignified and the welcome we received was humbling. Can hardly wait to return.

Keith
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on April 07, 2018, 02:32:57 am
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 07, 2018, 02:56:33 pm
Rooting around in my Cloud storage I rediscovered a folder of iPhone pics from my 2014 Arizona holiday. These two are in-flight, the first shortly after takeoff from Detroit Metro and the second shortly before landing at Phoenix Sky Harbor.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on April 09, 2018, 02:17:20 am
A walk on the inside with lighted floor, from a well known building in downtown Toronto.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Front-St-Walk-Toronto/i-zpDCzdP/0/06918b99/M/March%2011-%202018%20Downtown%20Toronto_0115%20bwcopy-1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 10, 2018, 10:40:55 am
Oldie.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: guido on April 10, 2018, 01:14:19 pm
.

Very nice image!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 10, 2018, 04:36:37 pm
Here's one more from the Grand Canyon in 2014: an infrared "environmental selfie."  :D

(All my recent pics have been via SX-70. I need a decent flatbed scanner to properly digitize 'em.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 10, 2018, 07:30:18 pm
Front porch ~25 minutes ago.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 12, 2018, 04:45:39 pm
No.1 Blonde - ever.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 12, 2018, 05:31:48 pm
A couple electronic versions of recent SX-70 pics, via the Sony A7iii that arrived on my front porch yesterday afternoon. (Sold the A7rii to a friend of a friend.) RAWs converted in Sandy McG's PhotoRaw app to TIFs, then tweaked in Affinity Photo. (Affinity doesn't yet decode A7iii RAWs.)

(Edit: to clarify, these are photos of the same subject matter as a pair of earlier SX-70 pics, not copies of the Polaroids.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 13, 2018, 10:46:51 am
No.1 Blonde - ever.

At the risk of offending my own leggy blonde, yup.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 13, 2018, 02:16:38 pm
At the risk of offending my own leggy blonde, yup.

;-)


That spells the definitive end of the Caveman, as in front of the porch or anywhere else! Probably for the best...

I think I may have changed my own affections more towards the TT from the audiophile company instead. I see a silver one every day on my walk; the spoiler is frozen in the upright position, either as priapic virility symbol, a means of figuring out where the butt may be or, perhaps, another form of malfunction in the system.

I also saw a spanking new Mustang (in red) with a soft top, which rather spoiled the look of it, I have to say. But nonetheless, it was very clean and shiny!

I should have worked harder, or smarter.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 13, 2018, 03:47:26 pm
From earlier this afternoon. Windy weather memorabilia.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 13, 2018, 04:00:58 pm

That spells the definitive end of the Caveman, as in front of the porch or anywhere else! Probably for the best...

I think I may have changed my own affections more towards the TT from the audiophile company instead. I see a silver one every day on my walk; the spoiler is frozen in the upright position, either as priapic virility symbol, a means of figuring out where the butt may be or, perhaps, another form of malfunction in the system.

I also saw a spanking new Mustang (in red) with a soft top, which rather spoiled the look of it, I have to say. But nonetheless, it was very clean and shiny!

I should have worked harder, or smarter.

I think of the audiophile as the fiancé one would introduce to one's parents and the caveman as the mistress one wouldn't.

Everyone following this?

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 14, 2018, 04:15:16 am
Speaking of leggy blondes...

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Goat.jpg)

Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 14, 2018, 04:59:52 am
I think of the audiophile as the fiancé one would introduce to one's parents and the caveman as the mistress one wouldn't.

Everyone following this?

;-)

There is truth in what you suggest, Keith.

That admitted, I have a teeny suspicion that parents might, just might be more forgiving than could a wife: where parents think they understand, a wife would most wilfully and certainly refuse so to do.

Or, one might employ the strategy of French presidents and keep one of each, even if it does mean the inconvenience of a bike ride between the two. In either case, steer well away fom Cliveden: it could make the entire structure keel over on its back, or at least fall off a chair.

Caution is the word for the day.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 14, 2018, 06:33:29 am
Speaking of leggy blondes...

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Goat.jpg)

Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH.


And boy, can she flutter her eyes!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on April 14, 2018, 08:32:21 am

And boy, can she flutter her eyes!

Better than the best of them...eye fluttering, that is!

Peter


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 14, 2018, 09:46:42 am
Better than the best of them...eye fluttering, that is!

Peter
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on April 14, 2018, 03:45:56 pm
We have some real wilderness, here, too ... just an quick and dirty hand held pano, wasn't prepared for such a view ...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/805/26584857317_9224ffc142_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GvdkSV)Wildernis (https://flic.kr/p/GvdkSV) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 14, 2018, 05:22:14 pm
experiments
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Post by: 32BT on April 15, 2018, 09:06:29 am
experiments

Yes, very good, very specific impressionistic mood. Now find a story to capture and you've nailed it.
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Post by: RSL on April 15, 2018, 09:30:20 am
+1
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Post by: John R on April 16, 2018, 03:44:10 am
Yes, very good, very specific impressionistic mood. Now find a story to capture and you've nailed it.
Armand, very good impressions.

JR
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Post by: guido on April 16, 2018, 08:12:19 am
We have some real wilderness, here, too ... just an quick and dirty hand held pano, wasn't prepared for such a view ...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/805/26584857317_9224ffc142_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GvdkSV)Wildernis (https://flic.kr/p/GvdkSV) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr

Fabulous!
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Post by: farbschlurf on April 16, 2018, 08:43:09 am
Fabulous!
Thank you.
(Interestingly, it's a man made landscape. There they dug out clay for all the bricks, Berlin was build from in the 19th century. It's  over 100ft deep holes, just down to the ground water, and mine dumps around. There's a museum brick manufacture nearby. Now it's a nature-sanctuary.)
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Post by: guido on April 16, 2018, 10:01:23 am
Thank you.
(Interestingly, it's a man made landscape. There they dug out clay for all the bricks, Berlin was build from in the 19th century. It's  over 100ft deep holes, just down to the ground water, and mine dumps around. There's a museum brick manufacture nearby. Now it's a nature-sanctuary.)
Seeing nature re-claim spaces after we are done with them is a fascinating study. The battle between native species and invasive introduced species can be quite intense.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on April 16, 2018, 01:03:52 pm
Lunenburg Harbour walkabout. The reflection is of the saltbanker schooner Theresa E. Connor, built in Lunenenburg and launched in 1938.

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Post by: guido on April 16, 2018, 01:14:28 pm
Lunenburg Harbour walkabout. The reflection is of the saltbanker schooner Theresa E. Connor, built in Lunenenburg and launched in 1938.

Very nicely seen!
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 16, 2018, 03:14:35 pm
Very nicely seen!
+1.
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Post by: KLaban on April 17, 2018, 10:04:27 am
One for Rob.

Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH @ f/4ish.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Coke.jpg)

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Post by: pegelli on April 17, 2018, 11:52:55 am
^^  Very nice Keith

Antwerp water towers
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Post by: JNB_Rare on April 17, 2018, 01:04:33 pm
Really enjoying Keith's series. Pieter – good eye!
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 17, 2018, 03:48:53 pm
Kudos to both Keith and Pieter.
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Post by: KLaban on April 17, 2018, 04:46:26 pm
^^  Very nice Keith

Antwerp water towers

And back at you Pieter!

Thanks Eric & JNB_Rare, appreciated.

Have to admit I didn't notice the Coke bottle until after the event.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 17, 2018, 05:34:36 pm
Have to admit I didn't notice the Coke bottle until after the event.
Now we know where Ms. Coke has been traveling recently.
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Post by: farbschlurf on April 18, 2018, 03:19:43 am
After 20 years or so I visited a funfair ...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/846/39724645860_240506f414_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23wkcef)funfair flowers (https://flic.kr/p/23wkcef) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr

few more on flickr, with changing colors.
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Post by: Rob C on April 18, 2018, 04:39:47 am
One for Rob.

Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH @ f/4ish.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Coke.jpg)


All those thousands of miles away and you still thought of me! ;-)

I still keep an eye open for the old Coke bottles, the ones with the raised glass motif, but never see them anymore. All you get are cheap, printed logos.

Should I come across one of the oldies but goodies, it might make me start back into the theme - possibly around the "ancestor to Ms. Coke" angle. The light reflections would be so much more interesting, and would give my dormant 2.8/105 Micro Nikkor some exercise.

I'd like to see what you'd make of Cuba.

Rob
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Post by: KLaban on April 18, 2018, 05:13:52 am
Being India the bottle is likely to be counterfeit and the contents risky! On the other hand I believe there are many genuine vintage Coke bottles available on eBay.

Cuba; once on my bucket list but no more. Too many pesky photographers and white faces. Thankfully in India it is perfectly possible to walk for hours without encountering any of either.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 18, 2018, 05:34:31 am
...Cuba; once on my bucket list but no more. Too many pesky photographers and white faces...

Not in my experience. I wonder what makes you say so? By the way, two thirds of Cubans are white.
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Post by: KLaban on April 18, 2018, 07:26:38 am
Not in my experience. I wonder what makes you say so? By the way, two thirds of Cubans are white.

You were there.

;-)
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Post by: Rob C on April 18, 2018, 07:27:56 am
Being India the bottle is likely to be counterfeit and the contents risky! On the other hand I believe there are many genuine vintage Coke bottles available on eBay.

Cuba; once on my bucket list but no more. Too many pesky photographers and white faces. Thankfully in India it is perfectly possible to walk for hours without encountering any of either.


Yes, I looked quite a few years ago; but there's no way of knowing if they are in pristine condition (how I like my female bottles, at least) and as they are mainly in America, no point in further disappointment...

I'm currently watching the Braquo series, and wondered, as you too enjoy French dramas, if you had any idea why the title, as none of the characters seems to bear the name? Perhaps it's a colloquial, Parisian form for CID?
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Post by: KLaban on April 18, 2018, 07:38:17 am

Yes, I looked quite a few years ago; but there's no way of knowing if they are in pristine condition (how I like my female bottles, at least) and as they are mainly in America, no point in further disappointment...

I'm currently watching the Braquo series, and wondered, as you too enjoy French dramas, if you had any idea why the title, as none of the characters seems to bear the name? Perhaps it's a colloquial, Parisian form for CID?

Rob, never even heard of the series, but thanks for the heads-up, I'll look into it.

Currently watching the box set of Sopranos - bought used on eBay, over 80 episodes for £15. Only trouble is 'T' puts me in mind of my Brother-in-Law, also named Anth-O-Knee.
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Post by: Rob C on April 18, 2018, 08:06:41 am
Rob, never even heard of the series, but thanks for the heads-up, I'll look into it.

Currently watching the box set of Sopranos - bought used on eBay, over 80 episodes for £15. Only trouble is 'T' puts me in mind of my Brother-in-Law, also named Anth-O-Knee.

I answered my own question by consulting the good doctor Google:

"The name of the series comes from the French word braquage, meaning armed robberies, particularly of banks."

I loved the Sopranos!

If ever I get back to Glasgow I shall have my son drive me through some of the city's less happy areas as I snap away in homage (read rip off) to The Sopranos' opening titles. Whether they work in stills is another matter, but hey, a break from shop windows!

Rob
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Post by: KLaban on April 18, 2018, 09:42:28 am
I answered my own question by consulting the good doctor Google:

"The name of the series comes from the French word braquage, meaning armed robberies, particularly of banks."

I loved the Sopranos!

If ever I get back to Glasgow I shall have my son drive me through some of the city's less happy areas as I snap away in homage (read rip off) to The Sopranos' opening titles. Whether they work in stills is another matter, but hey, a break from shop windows!

Rob

Ditto, we are both hooked!
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Post by: JNB_Rare on April 18, 2018, 10:13:52 am
After 20 years or so I visited a funfair ... few more on flickr, with changing colors.

Lots of fun! I love the colours. I prefer the slightly "sharper" ones that show the rich blue in the sky.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 18, 2018, 11:58:06 am
You were there.

;-)

Nice. Then again, I've been to 35 countries, would be a shame to cross them all from your bucket list ;)
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Post by: KLaban on April 18, 2018, 12:23:58 pm
Nice. Then again, I've been to 35 countries, would be a shame to cross them all from your bucket list ;)

Forewarned is forearmed.

;-)
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Post by: armand on April 18, 2018, 09:35:35 pm
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Post by: Telecaster on April 19, 2018, 07:37:17 pm
From my yard ~45 minutes ago. First properly spring-like day this spring.  :D

-Dave-
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Post by: guido on April 19, 2018, 08:16:12 pm
From my yard ~45 minutes ago. First properly spring-like day this spring.  :D

-Dave-

Very nicely seen!
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Post by: JNB_Rare on April 19, 2018, 11:22:30 pm
First properly spring-like day this spring.  :D

We had one of those here today, too. At least it started that way. But, after a short drive to the seaside, the temperature dropped dramatically, the wind came up and clouds rolled in. Then it started to pelt cold rain. Had to retire to a local café to warm up.

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Post by: Telecaster on April 20, 2018, 02:40:08 pm
Two spring-y days in a row, a relief after the near-horrors of last weekend. From earlier this afternoon.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on April 20, 2018, 02:45:53 pm
Very nicely seen!

Took me awhile to see it in the first place.  :)  I was looking way too close to the horizon.

-Dave-
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 20, 2018, 07:20:28 pm
Ambiguous traffic light ahead.
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Post by: Telecaster on April 20, 2018, 09:05:41 pm
This time from my driveway, shortly after sunset.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on April 20, 2018, 09:07:41 pm
Ambiguous traffic light ahead.

"We give up…do whatever you like."  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 20, 2018, 10:26:18 pm
"We give up…do whatever you like."  :)

-Dave-
I think you got it.   :D
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Post by: 32BT on April 21, 2018, 09:26:32 am
Obligatory colortests for a camera are best done in b&w obviously.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 21, 2018, 10:34:11 am
Obligatory colortests for a camera are best done in b&w obviously.
Your red peppers look fine, but the strawberries look a bit too green to me.   8)
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 21, 2018, 07:35:10 pm
Two shots from today's walk through Chicago:

The first one I can title "Lamps," or, alternatively, "Lineus Inerruptus," though I am sure it would be incorrect Latin ;)

The second one feel free to interpret as enthusiasm or sarcasm, up to you.

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Post by: Telecaster on April 21, 2018, 08:46:20 pm
Today's cloudy sky partially cleared not long before sunset, so here we are again.

-Dave-
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Post by: guido on April 21, 2018, 09:10:16 pm
I feel a series coming on...
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Post by: Rob C on April 22, 2018, 07:56:28 am
Good  advice.
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Post by: KLaban on April 22, 2018, 07:59:14 am
India. Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Through_the_Window.jpg)

Some shots are made for 6x6 ;-)
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Post by: 32BT on April 22, 2018, 08:26:20 am
Good  advice.

It can occassionally clear up blurry concepts...
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Post by: 32BT on April 22, 2018, 09:00:50 am
India. Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH.

Some shots are made for 6x6 ;-)

Good combination of color, tones, and content.
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Post by: John R on April 22, 2018, 11:09:53 am
Good combination of color, tones, and content.
Yes, outstanding people images. This one has beautiful soft natural glow on the subject that fades into black and creates nice tension between the light and dark areas.

JR
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Post by: KLaban on April 23, 2018, 12:28:07 pm
Thanks to opgr and John R for their comments, appreciated.

The subject was a charming and obliging man who also showed us around his charming home.
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Post by: Telecaster on April 23, 2018, 05:27:33 pm
The herons in my fav local park are getting ready for this year's crop o' young 'uns.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on April 23, 2018, 05:33:53 pm
Meanwhile this sandhill crane seems kinda forlorn. No doubt her/his mate is also sitting on a nest. Or maybe it's the ruddy/muddy tones the PhotoRaw app on my iPad seems compelled to produce from Sony A7iii files no matter how hard I try to dial it out. Looks like old ISO 1600 color neg film minus the grain. I'll be less forlorn myself once iOS (and thus Affinity Photo) can decode the RAWs.  ;)

-Dave-
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Post by: John R on April 24, 2018, 07:19:21 am
Spring has inspired me to try new things!

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-rzMzPQH/0/b256f2e7/L/April%2020-%202018%20abstract%20glass_0382%20halfbw-copy1000-L.jpg)
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Post by: JNB_Rare on April 24, 2018, 09:22:11 am
Spring has inspired me to try new things!

Very attractive!
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Post by: Rob C on April 24, 2018, 09:45:17 am
Rob
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Post by: guido on April 24, 2018, 10:16:43 am
Very nice! Well seen!
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Post by: KLaban on April 24, 2018, 10:19:25 am
Rob

This works because it resembles a trawler *wheelhouse, the rest of the ship being engulfed by huge waves.

* Is that a valid nautical term?
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Post by: Rob C on April 24, 2018, 12:55:01 pm
This works because it resembles a trawler *wheelhouse, the rest of the ship being engulfed by huge waves.

* Is that a valid nautical term?

Aye aye, Sir, that it be!

:-)
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Post by: Rob C on April 24, 2018, 12:56:32 pm
Very nice! Well seen!

Mille grazie, Guido!

Rob
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Post by: armand on April 24, 2018, 01:10:07 pm
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Post by: pegelli on April 24, 2018, 04:10:44 pm
Watching in awe, as the pendulum swings (Science Museum, London)
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Post by: Rob C on April 26, 2018, 11:51:18 am
Rob
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Post by: RSL on April 26, 2018, 12:04:21 pm
Watching in awe, as the pendulum swings (Science Museum, London)

Good shooting, Pieter.
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Post by: David Eckels on April 26, 2018, 12:48:44 pm
Anemones from the Vancouver aquarium.
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Post by: petermfiore on April 26, 2018, 01:18:36 pm

Rob


Great graphics...

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on April 26, 2018, 02:05:36 pm
Rob


Great graphics...

Peter

Thank you Peter - encouraging to explore different directions now and then. Were I able to draw and paint better than I can, I think it would be an easier journey! As we know, cameras really need something to shoot first.
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Post by: Rob C on April 26, 2018, 02:11:37 pm
Anemones from the Vancouver aquarium.


Nice work, David, but doesn't it require you to get wet?

I haven't swum since my first heart attack: I think the shock of even summer Med waters would be too much! Shame; I used to love it once upon a time...
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Post by: David Eckels on April 26, 2018, 02:15:25 pm
Thanks Rob. Not unless the glass breaks! No no no swimming in the ocean for me! Fish (and other things) poop in it! ;)
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Post by: armand on April 26, 2018, 03:15:29 pm
Dilated time
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Post by: Telecaster on April 26, 2018, 08:06:17 pm
45 minutes ago.

-Dave-
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Post by: pegelli on April 27, 2018, 02:27:34 am
Good shooting, Pieter.
Thanks Russ, 6 sec handheld, sharpness is overrated these days ;)
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Post by: drmike on April 27, 2018, 02:33:10 am
Thanks Russ, 6 sec handheld, sharpness is overrated these days ;)

I agree. We are fortunate that sharpness is always an option these days but not everything has to be so sharp you cut yourself.

Mike
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Post by: Rob C on April 27, 2018, 12:24:13 pm
Something novel: colour!

I wonder if it'll catch on but, hey, these new fads should never be taken too seriously!

:-)
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Post by: 32BT on April 28, 2018, 08:37:02 am
Something novel: colour!

I wonder if it'll catch on but, hey, these new fads should never be taken too seriously!

:-)

 Sigh...

What's next? ipad captures?

Oh wait...
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Post by: Rob C on April 28, 2018, 10:50:50 am
Sigh...

What's next? ipad captures?

Oh wait...

I know, I know, history too.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 29, 2018, 07:55:21 am
India. Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH @ f/4.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Pride.jpg)
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Post by: armand on April 29, 2018, 03:46:34 pm
Paris
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Post by: Telecaster on April 29, 2018, 04:36:53 pm
More shadow branches with bonus selfie.

-Dave-
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Post by: farbschlurf on April 30, 2018, 02:29:53 am
Archetypes.

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Post by: francois on April 30, 2018, 03:42:01 am
Archetypes.

Modern life!  :) I like the shot a lot and the treatment is also appropriate.
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Post by: Rob C on April 30, 2018, 03:49:43 am
Surreal!
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Post by: petermfiore on April 30, 2018, 11:53:08 am
Wired clouds...


Peter
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 30, 2018, 12:03:49 pm
Wired clouds...


Peter
Definitely high-voltage.
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Post by: Telecaster on April 30, 2018, 04:39:56 pm
Via a 7Artisans 50/1.1 lens. It's a Sonnar variant, basically a faster Zeiss (or Soviet Jupiter) 50/1.5. I like it!

-Dave-
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Post by: KLaban on April 30, 2018, 05:13:59 pm
Via a 7Artisans 50/1.1 lens. It's a Sonnar variant, basically a faster Zeiss (or Soviet Jupiter) 50/1.5. I like it!

-Dave-

And at £348 it's an absolute bargain!

I wonder what a comparison with the Zeiss sonnar ZM at f/1.4 to f/1.5 would reveal.
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Post by: Rob C on April 30, 2018, 05:42:49 pm
I suppose these notions must have sold a helluva lot of Rolleiflex and Hasselblad cameras in the day.

Now, a few minutes at the computer before the News comes on, and there you are, even a simple little crop-frame Nikon will do.

Kinda depressing, in a perverse sort of way...
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Post by: Telecaster on May 01, 2018, 01:00:28 am
And at £348 it's an absolute bargain!

I wonder what a comparison with the Zeiss sonnar ZM at f/1.4 to f/1.5 would reveal.

I can tell you that my sample of the 50/1.1 at f/1.1 resolves identically to my two 1950s-era Zeiss 50/1.5s at f/1.5, and with a bit more contrast too. (This is on a Sony A7iii.) With the ZM version the story is likely different. Still it's a lotta lens for the £$€. The focal length is shorter than the Zeisses, which are ~53mm.…closer to an actual 50mm.

One issue is the 55mm filter thread size: too small. My 55mm 3-stop ND filter causes some vignetting as does the supplied hood. A 58 or 60mm thread diameter would fix this.

Ironically I got the lens to use on my M9 but have yet to actually do that.

-Dave-
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Post by: KLaban on May 01, 2018, 04:21:51 am
Thanks Dave.
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Post by: muntanela on May 01, 2018, 08:08:21 am
Emerus major, Polygonatum odoratum and Cephalanthera longifolia at the feet of Mount San Martino (very steep path, maximum heart rate during the last walk 119, average heart rate 90, still shortness of breath :().
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Post by: KLaban on May 01, 2018, 08:29:55 am
I suppose these notions must have sold a helluva lot of Rolleiflex and Hasselblad cameras in the day.

Now, a few minutes at the computer before the News comes on, and there you are, even a simple little crop-frame Nikon will do.

Kinda depressing, in a perverse sort of way...

Rob, if you're referring here to the high quality of the Zeiss lenses for Rolleiflex and Hasselblad then of course, they sold cameras.

The case of the 50mm Zeiss Sonnar ZM is different in that it is any thing but a flawless lens, it's very different from my Leica lenses being the softest lens I own. Perversely though it still helps to sell Leica cameras because folk buy it for its flawed qualities.

Probably my favourite lens.
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Post by: Telecaster on May 01, 2018, 04:06:06 pm
Comacetic! (Via Leitz 50/2 Summar.)

-Dave-
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Post by: armand on May 01, 2018, 09:30:09 pm
London
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Post by: Telecaster on May 02, 2018, 04:13:07 pm
Ye Grapes! It's Wine o'clock!

(I amuse myself…)

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on May 02, 2018, 04:15:24 pm
The maple tree in my yard most reluctant to let go of last year's leaves is now the most eager to make new ones.  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on May 02, 2018, 05:28:32 pm
Rob, if you're referring here to the high quality of the Zeiss lenses for Rolleiflex and Hasselblad then of course, they sold cameras.

The case of the 50mm Zeiss Sonnar ZM is different in that it is any thing but a flawless lens, it's very different from my Leica lenses being the softest lens I own. Perversely though it still helps to sell Leica cameras because folk buy it for its flawed qualities.

Probably my favourite lens.

No, nothing to do with lenses, Keith.

It was a reference to the days (years) of LPs and the glamour of that big, square piece of artwork that was the jacket.

I think it was quite an influence on choice of camera format - you know, living in hope and running on empty? Them wuz the days.

I have just watched Cinema Paradiso, and it broke my heart; not a dry eye in the house. Who needs porn and 007 and Wonderwoman et al? All you need is a good story and some honest little emotions. Whatever happened to people?

;-)
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Post by: KLaban on May 03, 2018, 03:21:00 am
No, nothing to do with lenses, Keith.

It was a reference to the days (years) of LPs and the glamour of that big, square piece of artwork that was the jacket.

I think it was quite an influence on choice of camera format - you know, living in hope and running on empty? Them wuz the days.

I have just watched Cinema Paradiso, and it broke my heart; not a dry eye in the house. Who needs porn and 007 and Wonderwoman et al? All you need is a good story and some honest little emotions. Whatever happened to people?

;-)

Whoops.

It would seem that V is right when she tells me that I often have my head up my arse.

;-)
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Post by: Rob C on May 03, 2018, 04:50:27 am
Whoops.

It would seem that V is right when she tells me that I often have my head up my arse.

;-)

Then we make a pair: it's where mine has been for years, and here's another example of 'blad (der) retention:

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Post by: JNB_Rare on May 03, 2018, 12:28:16 pm
From Castillo San Cristóbal on Puerto Rico

I like this a lot – the colours, the textures, the composition.
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Post by: guido on May 03, 2018, 02:16:13 pm
Overlook, San Cristobal Puerto Rico

Lovely alignment of elements!
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Post by: pegelli on May 03, 2018, 03:22:28 pm
Centerpiece
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Post by: Telecaster on May 03, 2018, 03:25:52 pm
Centerpiece

London, Eye Sea Ewe!

-Dave-
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Post by: armand on May 03, 2018, 06:20:49 pm
From Castillo San Cristóbal on Puerto Rico

Are these recent? I wonder how much Puerto Rico recovered, if at all.
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Post by: David Eckels on May 03, 2018, 06:23:06 pm
Are these recent? I wonder how much Puerto Rico recovered, if at all.
No, Armand, they are from 2012. Re-doing some from the library.
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 04, 2018, 02:44:52 pm
Three Doors; two with reflected light.

And very beautiful reflected light at that.

Jeremy
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 04, 2018, 06:09:46 pm
And very beautiful reflected light at that.

Jeremy
+1.
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Post by: Dahlmann on May 04, 2018, 11:00:05 pm
A red rose!! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180505/83e49b23c2676b3cb9e4fcdcab1d21e6.jpg)

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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 05, 2018, 12:37:24 pm
Rob
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Post by: armand on May 05, 2018, 03:44:28 pm
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Post by: Telecaster on May 05, 2018, 04:59:24 pm
Somewhere I've got color negs of dragons I took in Singapore c. 1997. They were part of the opening day ceremony for a business I was involved with at the time.  :)  But I'm not sure where I've put the negs so this pair of young lilac blooms will have to do.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2018, 04:22:48 am
Pleasures of a rainy afternoon.

Rob
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Post by: KLaban on May 06, 2018, 04:34:13 am
^

Lovely shots, Rob.
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Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2018, 06:56:56 am
^

Lovely shots, Rob.

Thank you, Keith; spent an hour or so sitting in the rain down the coast in Alcudia, where there's this abandoned/reserve? old power station. Been that way for ages, and I'd love to go in and explore, but lack the armed guard. As well as the nerve. However, it doesn't stop the good olde graffiti artists: right at the very dizzy top, there's a massive gang graffito. Wow, indeed!

The lot was shot with the 2.8/180 which waves about like a magic wand in ecstasy. I managed to get some crisp(ish) and I'm working on them at the mo, except right now I'm sitting having lunch nearby.

Love that focal length, but so hard (for me) to hand-hold.

Thanks again.

Rob
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Post by: muntanela on May 06, 2018, 07:06:59 am
A real master (Rob).
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Post by: KLaban on May 06, 2018, 07:34:41 am
Thank you, Keith; spent an hour or so sitting in the rain down the coast in Alcudia, where there's this abandoned/reserve? old power station. Been that way for ages, and I'd love to go in and explore, but lack the armed guard. As well as the nerve. However, it doesn't stop the good olde graffiti artists: right at the very dizzy top, there's a massive gang graffito. Wow, indeed!

The lot was shot with the 2.8/180 which waves about like a magic wand in ecstasy. I managed to get some crisp(ish) and I'm working on them at the mo, except right now I'm sitting having lunch nearby.

Love that focal length, but so hard (for me) to hand-hold.

Thanks again.

Rob

I'd be in there like a rat up a drainpipe, but perhaps I'm lacking in the danger gene department.

;-)
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Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2018, 07:39:35 am
A real master (Rob).

Now that is very generous!

But I shall cling to it and not let go.

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2018, 07:44:52 am
I'd be in there like a rat up a drainpipe, but perhaps I'm lacking in the danger gene department.

;-)


I'm older than you are, and worry about falling ill in some place where my cellphone may not function or I may just be too knackered to cope...

On the other hand, better make a mess where it makes little difference to the general scheme of things, than to play out the same mini-drama at home, and perhaps ruin a bed and a carpet!

I have been thinking about going to have a chat with the local fuzz and see if access can perhaps be arranged...

Rob
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 06, 2018, 08:40:33 am
Well, I'm too old to learn how to use a cell phone, Rob, but I agree with the others: You've got a good eye!

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on May 06, 2018, 08:43:53 am
Pleasures of a rainy afternoon.

Rob

I love the light of Rainy Days...dreamscapes.

Peter
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Post by: KLaban on May 06, 2018, 10:44:59 am

I'm older than you are, and worry about falling ill in some place where my cellphone may not function or I may just be too knackered to cope...

On the other hand, better make a mess where it makes little difference to the general scheme of things, than to play out the same mini-drama at home, and perhaps ruin a bed and a carpet!

I have been thinking about going to have a chat with the local fuzz and see if access can perhaps be arranged...

Rob

Just make sure you're not alone when accessing these places.

As you know I spend much time in derelict buildings but I'm always with my personal minder. If things look particularly dangerous she will stay outside to raise the alarm if needed. I never - well, hardly ever - risk it alone.

Looks as if it could be really interesting.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 06, 2018, 11:52:49 am
Rob found a hipster hobby (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_exploration). Grow the right beard and you'll instantly feel 20 years younger...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2018, 12:35:14 pm
Rob found a hipster hobby (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_exploration). Grow the right beard and you'll instantly feel 20 years younger...

;-)

I have the beard - whether hip or not I can't say - but reading that link and all about "stray voltage" put the hammer on the idea. Asbestos, too, is most likely there - it is an old stablishment after all.

Best keeping a long lens employed, or a drone (not that I have a drone, of course), seems nice and sensible.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on May 06, 2018, 01:33:51 pm
Rob found a hipster hobby (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_exploration). Grow the right beard and you'll instantly feel 20 years younger...

;-)

Gosh, it appears to be risky.

Who would have thunk it?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2018, 02:04:09 pm
Gosh, it appears to be risky.

Who would have thunk it?

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on May 06, 2018, 04:33:03 pm
India. Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Pink_Interior.jpg)
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Post by: farbschlurf on May 07, 2018, 01:42:40 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 07, 2018, 02:13:24 pm
I like verticals too, but it isn't that easy to find something that isn't too narrow when using 135 format frame cameras.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 07, 2018, 08:54:44 pm
Today in let the tools choose the photo: this pedestrian pic of a box on a sill. The non-pedestrian part is that the lens is an early/mid 1950s Zeiss-Opton 50/1.5 Sonnar, with focus achieved via a Contax RF mount (internal bayonet lenses only) to M mount Voigtländer adapter atop a Techart M mount to Sony E mount AF adapter. In the early days of the digital era I figured it was unlikely I'd ever be able to use this lens in front of a sensor, much less via autofocus!

This is wide open at the Techart's closest focusing distance: ~70cm. Closer than you get on a Contax RF camera. And the Techart/camera combo will AF all over the frame, well into the zones of diminishing returns with this particular lens at f/1.5.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on May 08, 2018, 04:04:03 am
Today in let the tools choose the photo: this pedestrian pic of a box on a sill. The non-pedestrian part is that the lens is an early/mid 1950s Zeiss-Opton 50/1.5 Sonnar, with focus achieved via a Contax RF mount (internal bayonet lenses only) to M mount Voigtländer adapter atop a Techart M mount to Sony E mount AF adapter. In the early days of the digital era I figured it was unlikely I'd ever be able to use this lens in front of a sensor, much less via autofocus!

This is wide open at the Techart's closest focusing distance: ~70cm. Closer than you get on a Contax RF camera. And the Techart/camera combo will AF all over the frame, well into the zones of diminishing returns with this particular lens at f/1.5.

-Dave-

Lovely picture; at first glance it reminded me of those great cigarette adverts of long ago.

https://www.google.com/search?q=benson+and+hedges+gold+advertising&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt1Mun0_XaAhUnMZoKHS1IA1QQsAQIJg&biw=1259&bih=863

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 08, 2018, 08:36:28 am
It is a lovely picture!
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Post by: armand on May 08, 2018, 01:49:11 pm
A kid's dream
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Post by: Telecaster on May 08, 2018, 03:01:48 pm
A kid's dream

Makes my teeth hurt just looking at it. (But my inner kid wants a bagful of the stuff anyway!)

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on May 08, 2018, 03:08:00 pm
Lovely picture; at first glance it reminded me of those great cigarette adverts of long ago.

Hah! When my friend Susan saw the box she said it looked like the one her dad kept Cigarillos in when she was a youngster. :)

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on May 08, 2018, 05:42:40 pm
Hah! When my friend Susan saw the box she said it looked like the one her dad kept Cigarillos in when she was a youngster. :)

-Dave-

I think I like Susan.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 08, 2018, 09:11:28 pm
This spring's nascent lilac blooms were decimated by the ice storm we had 24 days ago, but here's one that made it through.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 09, 2018, 09:59:48 am
A longtime friend of mine is in town for business stuff, so we've been hanging out in the evenings. As with the Techart pic this is from his hotel room window. Full-res crop as the longest lens I had was a 135mm. Sony A7iii.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 09, 2018, 03:55:23 pm
From today's park walk via the Sony/Techart/Sonnar rig. Maybe I should start a series called Unnecessary Signage. (The park rangers did a lotta good work over the winter, though, like clearing out saplings and tall brush from grassy areas and so making wildflowers happier.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Unnecessary Signage
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 09, 2018, 08:40:48 pm
Ambiguous traffic light ahead.
They go well with my shot in post #1441.
Title: Re: Unnecessary Signage
Post by: Telecaster on May 09, 2018, 10:27:48 pm
They go well with my shot in post #1441.

Hehe, so they do.  :D  Must continue on then.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 10, 2018, 11:29:32 am
Probably the last one I can squeeze out of my little rainy afternoon trip to the old power station. Well, I was only there for about an hour, and never got out of the car.

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Post by: David Eckels on May 10, 2018, 05:51:55 pm
I think Saul would approve.

;-)

Rob
I do too!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 11, 2018, 04:18:46 am
I do too!

Heysoos, David, you have some memory! But thanks - I think?

;-)

Rob
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Post by: RSL on May 11, 2018, 07:15:11 am
Probably the last one I can squeeze out of my little rainy afternoon trip to the old power station. Well, I was only there for about an hour, and never got out of the car.

A fine shot, Rob.
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Post by: Rob C on May 11, 2018, 08:07:06 am
A fine shot, Rob.


Thanks, Russ, I think it is a site that would really fit in well with your old prairie relics interests; human constructs beyond their time...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 11, 2018, 03:38:52 pm
One more from hotel room window. Sony/Techart/Sonnar rig at f/2.

-Dave-
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Post by: armand on May 15, 2018, 09:53:29 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on May 16, 2018, 03:16:28 am
Just a preliminary one from an ongoing trip ...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/963/42097619722_36f093bb79_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2792iFG)Near Reutte / Tirol (https://flic.kr/p/2792iFG) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
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Post by: Rob C on May 16, 2018, 07:23:23 am
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Love that, and the sense of clean it has.

Rob
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Post by: RSL on May 16, 2018, 07:32:34 am
+1. Do it again.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on May 16, 2018, 07:35:48 am
A kid's dream
Probably owned by a dentist...or his kinfolk.

Peter
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Post by: 32BT on May 16, 2018, 07:49:56 am
hmmm, street or whatever...
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Post by: Rob C on May 16, 2018, 09:46:30 am
I'm not sure how the peculiar, repeated fence shapes in the upper part got there; I kinda suspect it had something to do with freak light reflecting off the surfaces of the individual elements in the lens.

I hope I didn't post it before as part of the power station shoot of the other week.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on May 16, 2018, 09:59:41 am
Well, it's certainly mysterious.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 16, 2018, 11:39:09 am
+1.
And the fence pattern adds to the mystery.
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Post by: Telecaster on May 16, 2018, 05:41:39 pm
A pair of tiny critters from today's park walk. Also saw a pair of orioles…very unusual around here. Just as unusual as the chickadee sitting still long enough for me to take three whole frames!

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on May 16, 2018, 09:16:59 pm
A tale of two lenses. The first is a Zeiss Jena 85/2 Sonnar in Leica Thread Mount, the second a Leica 75/2.4 Summarit. The Zeiss is likely a late 1940s lens assembled from WWII-era components while the Leica was made in 2016. Photos via a Sony A7iii + Techart Pro AF adapter for M mount lenses. Both lenses wide open at minimum focus, 90 & 75cm respectively, with a little additional extension from the Techart. Both photos cropped (not much) for near-identical framing and also processed in iOS Affinity Photo close to identically.

IMO there's very little in it. The Leica has a bit more resolution & snap while the Zeiss has more focal length & speed. Neither impedes anyone from taking a compelling photo nor is capable of turning sows' ears into silk purses.

(I took the two critter pics above with the Zeiss Jena lens.)

-Dave-
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Post by: 32BT on May 17, 2018, 12:06:40 am
Summarit >>>>>> Sonnar

Is the color balance difference due to lens only? Or is there a WB processing difference involved?

Considering the color, combined with the softer backfocus look, I very much prefer the Summarit. 
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Post by: Telecaster on May 17, 2018, 03:19:23 pm
Summarit >>>>>> Sonnar

Is the color balance difference due to lens only? Or is there a WB processing difference involved?

Considering the color, combined with the softer backfocus look, I very much prefer the Summarit.

The color balance difference is in the lenses. The Zeiss is an early coated lens and renders with less color saturation than most anything from the SLR era forward. (I also have a pre-WWII version, uncoated, with a very cool color rendering.) The Summarit, besides "seeing" with higher saturation, also has a pinkish tilt common to current Leica lenses.

The Sonnar, for a ~70 year old version of an 80+ year old design, IMO hangs in there pretty well.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on May 18, 2018, 03:03:57 pm
The park trails I love walking on are really pretty at this time of year. The greens are fresh & clean and the browns have pleasingly darkened. I spent lotsa time on this particular walk just standing and letting my senses take it all in.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on May 18, 2018, 04:14:15 pm
Sweet soul music.

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Post by: BobDavid on May 19, 2018, 02:43:00 am
Sweet soul music.

...interesting, jumped out at me.
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Post by: BobDavid on May 19, 2018, 02:44:04 am
stuck in traffic at the crossing
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Post by: Rob C on May 19, 2018, 04:18:24 am
stuck in traffic at the crossing

I keep looking in vain for all those '59 Coupe de Villes, Pontiac '73 Grand Prix... even an Eldorado with horns would be okay and reassure me!

Has the US really lost its love affair with cars? Funny thing: Mallorca has lots of Mercedes, but the majority appear to be taxis. A few folks with no money buy used BMW 3 series coupes and then end up with even less money than they started with, if you see what I mean. I don't know who buys the new ones, other than my doctor who has sold his in favour of a 4 Gran Coupé model because he is now a granddad and needs a rear door even though he rathers it didn't apear obvious (that it's a door, not his grandfathership).

Funny thing, the mind: I drive a small car - a Fiesta - and there are loads of places I don't even try to get through in the old town here; yet, periodically, you see builder's trucks there with cranes, unloading cement and cement mixers. Perhaps the drivers just don't care, and figure the buildings will collapse before the truck gets seriously damaged. Or a damaged truck is yet another, secret rite of passage? (No pun etc.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 19, 2018, 06:04:44 pm
Bob's photo is kinda misleading in that there are no large pickup trucks with fierce-looking front grills in it. "Check out my style!" has been replaced in large part by "Stay away from me!"

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 20, 2018, 04:44:42 am
Bob's photo is kinda misleading in that there are no large pickup trucks with fierce-looking front grills in it. "Check out my style!" has been replaced in large part by "Stay away from me!"

-Dave-

I think bull bars are illegal in the UK, though some trucks have them out here in Spain.

Worse, I think, are those towing hooks that extend from the rear of some vehicles. Plastic doesn't stand much of a chance against them, even if they are disguised under half a tennis ball.

Rob
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Post by: drmike on May 20, 2018, 05:08:52 am
I think bull bars are illegal in the UK, though some trucks have them out here in Spain.

Worse, I think, are those towing hooks that extend from the rear of some vehicles. Plastic doesn't stand much of a chance against them, even if they are disguised under half a tennis ball.

Rob

Bull bars were made illegal to fit as they kill and maim pedestrians. Tow balls won't do that and really should you be that close to the car in front?

I was sitting in my parked car as someone carefully drove into/onto my tow ball. What was he thinking of? Well a new radiator I expect :)

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Post by: Rob C on May 20, 2018, 06:30:37 am
Bull bars were made illegal to fit as they kill and maim pedestrians. Tow balls won't do that and really should you be that close to the car in front?

I was sitting in my parked car as someone carefully drove into/onto my tow ball. What was he thinking of? Well a new radiator I expect :)


Absolutely correct.

Also absolutely correct is the fact that folks with towing hooks don't park any better than the guys who drive into them.

Rob
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Post by: JNB_Rare on May 20, 2018, 09:45:33 am
Farmhouse parlour
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Post by: petermfiore on May 20, 2018, 09:58:44 am
Farmhouse parlour

A universal moment...Great image.

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on May 20, 2018, 10:25:53 am
Yeah, it helps looking around the old pad when you can't be bothered going out.

And a lazy guy just loves black and white.
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Post by: petermfiore on May 20, 2018, 11:04:34 am
Yeah, it helps looking around the old pad when you can't be bothered going out.

And a lazy guy just loves black and white.

My Kinda hunt...Love it.

Peter
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Post by: Telecaster on May 20, 2018, 04:41:30 pm
Hotel room pic from a couple weeks back.

-Dave-
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 20, 2018, 04:53:24 pm
Hotel room pic from a couple weeks back.

I've stayed in places like that. Depressing, isn't it?

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on May 20, 2018, 06:36:10 pm
The Royal Roost. The chair on the right bears a plaque that reads "This chair was used by his Royal Highness The Duke of Edinburgh..."  Who keeps track of these things? In days gone by there was the Groom of the Stool, but that was a much more intimate throne (and function) :)
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Post by: BobDavid on May 20, 2018, 06:49:23 pm
The Royal Roost. The chair on the right bears a plaque that reads "This chair was used by his Royal Highness The Duke of Edinburgh..."  Who keeps track of these things? In days gone by there was the Groom of the Stool, but that was a much more intimate throne (and function) :)

...reminds me of the director Wes Anderson (except I don't recall any of his films being in black and white).
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Post by: drmike on May 21, 2018, 02:32:55 am
Who keeps track of these things?

You bet we do. We have a chair (which the cat has taken ownership of) used the Prince of Wales before he became King George the fifth. It is of course referred to as the King's chair - which no doubt pleases the cat.
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Post by: Rob C on May 21, 2018, 04:23:00 am
The Royal Roost. The chair on the right bears a plaque that reads "This chair was used by his Royal Highness The Duke of Edinburgh..."  Who keeps track of these things? In days gone by there was the Groom of the Stool, but that was a much more intimate throne (and function) :)


Nice image; there's a sense of incipient drama/horror about to be played out, which I think would be totally lost in colour. Where's Jack N.?

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Post by: Rob C on May 21, 2018, 04:24:33 am
My Kinda hunt...Love it.

Peter

Thanks Peter, appreciated.
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Post by: Telecaster on May 21, 2018, 03:51:54 pm
I've stayed in places like that. Depressing, isn't it?

This particular hotel is a favorite of former colleagues of mine when they're in town. Good business location. Oppressively bland: imagine a world where the only colors are beige and taupe.

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on May 21, 2018, 04:12:02 pm
The Royal Roost. The chair on the right bears a plaque that reads "This chair was used by his Royal Highness The Duke of Edinburgh..."  Who keeps track of these things?

When my pal Patty & I were driving through the American southwest in 1993 we stayed in the "Burt Lancaster Room" at the El Rancho Hotel in Gallup, New Mexico. Apparently ol' Burt had occupied the same room decades earlier while doing location shooting for a film. Anyway, after we unlocked the door and dropped our backpacks on the floor Patty flopped down on the bed. Which squeaked very loudly. "I don't think BURT LANCASTER would've put up with this sh*t!" Patty said, even more loudly. This has been a running joke between us ever since.  :D

-Dave-
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Post by: JNB_Rare on May 21, 2018, 10:45:19 pm
When my pal Patty & I were driving through the American southwest in 1993 we stayed in the "Burt Lancaster Room" at the El Rancho Hotel in Gallup, New Mexico. Apparently ol' Burt had occupied the same room decades earlier while doing location shooting for a film. Anyway, after we unlocked the door and dropped our backpacks on the floor Patty flopped down on the bed. Which squeaked very loudly. "I don't think BURT LANCASTER would've put up with this sh*t!" Patty said, even more loudly. This has been a running joke between us ever since.  :D

-Dave-

Brings to mind a couple of scenes from Delicatessen, including this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpAHRPDTYWE).
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 22, 2018, 07:38:02 am
Brings to mind a couple of scenes from Delicatessen, including this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpAHRPDTYWE).

Ha! Delicatessen, the movie! Loved it.

On a totally unrelated note, the art director for the movie was brother of my best man.
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Post by: Rob C on May 22, 2018, 08:45:28 am
Great clip, but totally lost to me sans language...

The girl has a great acting ability, keeping a straight face despite all the undercurrent of later bounces (one might hope), to come...

Having run through all the Engrenages, Braquo and Sopranos episodes, I am now reduced to The Shield - which I find totally wooden (watched five episodes to date) and I began Breaking Bad which had a reasonable pilot, but turned unwatchable for me later on. I also have access to some Brit series too, but just can't relate.

I find European drama much more gripping and complex; so complex at times, that when I get to bed I ask my no-longer-there-wife if she understood what the hell was going on? I suppose it's a combination of hearing getting less focussed as well as dependency (for French) mainly on sub-titles. As for the names of characters - forget it! Even with the Sopranos I could only name the hero/villain, his wife and two brats. The rest of 'em were almost interchangeable - especially the wives - just like different versions of the same focal length lens.

No wonder I spend so much time LuLa-ing! Don't nobody suggest going out to make some pix: done that, got the snaps and then/now what?

Thank goodnes for a little southern music.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on May 22, 2018, 12:13:34 pm
Great clip, but totally lost to me sans language...

The girl has a great acting ability, keeping a straight face despite all the undercurrent of later bounces (one might hope), to come...

The man has come to fix the squeaky bed. Earlier in the film there were 'bounces' which led to the request for a fix. Rhythm & Squeak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9F7HxbOCBQ)
If you can find it, Delicatessen is a wonderful dark comedy from directors Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro. Other favourites of theirs include City of Lost Children and Amélie (starring Audrey Tautou).

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Post by: Rob C on May 22, 2018, 02:34:36 pm
The man has come to fix the squeaky bed. Earlier in the film there were 'bounces' which led to the request for a fix. Rhythm & Squeak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9F7HxbOCBQ)
If you can find it, Delicatessen is a wonderful dark comedy from directors Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro. Other favourites of theirs include City of Lost Children and Amélie (starring Audrey Tautou).


Thanks for the link! Reminds me of small hotels in rural France, which explains the sudden rash of Ibis chains, etc.! Anything for a good night's sleep!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 23, 2018, 05:32:09 pm
From today's park walk. Lotsa ladies out & about with cameras, from young 'uns to even older than me.  ;)  Also saw a guy perched in a tree out over the water, framing up a blackbird with his smartgizmo. Okaaay… I stood by, waiting for a photo op of my own, but though the guy slipped a bit at one point he failed to tumble into the lake. Oh well… I had the Sony A7iii/Techart combo with me, using a 1970s Leitz 40/2 Summicron-C. Lens performs pretty darn well. No magenta edges or astigmatized corners.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 23, 2018, 08:43:42 pm
This evening's Moon. Nice to be able to include some green.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 24, 2018, 04:21:52 am
This evening's Moon. Nice to be able to include some green.

-Dave-

I thought they required a bus window. However, grammar explained it all.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on May 24, 2018, 07:00:55 am
I thought they required a bus window. However, grammar explained it all.

;-)
Now Rob,
Your still such a youth :~) may you keep it forever!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 24, 2018, 07:42:46 am
Now Rob,
Your still such a youth :~) may you keep it forever!

Peter


I can't avoid it: it comes with the passing of many years...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 24, 2018, 03:44:18 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 25, 2018, 04:58:27 pm
Wooden pedestrian street.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 26, 2018, 04:25:50 pm
We had a power brownout in my neighborhood last evening, so rather than watch the next episode of Jessica Jones (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Jones_(TV_series)) on my phone (couldn't use the TV) I went outside and took some snaps. Sony/Techart combo with the same 1960 Leitz 50/2 "rigid" Summicron my folks used to document young me (pic 2).

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 26, 2018, 04:49:16 pm
We had a power brownout in my neighborhood last evening, so rather than watch the next episode of Jessica Jones (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Jones_(TV_series)) on my phone (couldn't use the TV) I went outside and took some snaps. Sony/Techart combo with the same 1960 Leitz 50/2 "rigid" Summicron my folks used to document young me (pic 2).

-Dave-

Young Me is rather misleading; are you sure it's you?

I ask, because the guy in the photo is clearly a piano player, not a guitarist...

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 26, 2018, 11:42:47 pm
Young Me is rather misleading; are you sure it's you?

I ask, because the guy in the photo is clearly a piano player, not a guitarist...

:-)

Yep! I started plunking on the family piano (my mom played, and was a very fine singer too) as soon as I could manage climbing up on the stool. Started taking formal lessons at age 9, ~5 years before getting my first guitar. I enjoy guitar more but playing piano & other keyboards comes easier. I know I inherited my mom's motor coordination. I even have the same coordination anomaly she had, where when I move a finger on one hand the corresponding finger on the other hand wants to move too. She took piano lessons as a child in part to get this under control. Me too. It actually gets in the way of certain guitar techniques but has also resulted in a unique playing style. You wouldn't know it if you watched me play guitar, but there are certain chord shapes I avoid and others I gravitate to because of this. My childhood & teenage doctor, also my mom's doctor after she got ill, called it "neural crosstalk."

A side effect is that I'm ambidextrous in many ways. I can write as comfortably with my left hand as my right, though I use my right hand nearly all the time 'cuz that's how my mom taught me. Much the same with playing golf, hockey or baseball. As a kid I was a good hockey player. I could easily switch sides, right & left, and outmaneuver the other kids. If I'd been a better skater…  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on May 27, 2018, 01:58:14 am
Early, early '60s baby picture.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on May 27, 2018, 08:59:58 am
Greetings from Lake Como  :)

(Belvedere on the path to the Pizzetti, reached during my daily cardio rehab walk )
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 27, 2018, 09:30:29 am
Greetings from Lake Como  :)

(Belvedere on the path to the Pizzetti, reached during my daily cardio rehab walk )

Be careful: I also have to do these walks, but have learned to limit them to a one-hour walk on the flat. I used to include, now and again, a climb that took me up to the top of a hill (the Calvario hill in Pollensa) which was reasonably close to my habitual French-run restaurant where I have lunch. I thought it would both be good for the heart as well as aid digestion. I mentioned this to the cardiologist during an annual check-up, and he almost had a fit. Apparently, it represents too much of a strain. I didn't feel that was the case, because I didn't rush - just took my time and enjoyed the view across the plain below to the sea. Now, I no longer know who is right. Might be an idea to check with your own guy again. Too much can be as bad as too little.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 27, 2018, 09:31:56 am
Yep! I started plunking on the family piano (my mom played, and was a very fine singer too) as soon as I could manage climbing up on the stool. Started taking formal lessons at age 9, ~5 years before getting my first guitar. I enjoy guitar more but playing piano & other keyboards comes easier. I know I inherited my mom's motor coordination. I even have the same coordination anomaly she had, where when I move a finger on one hand the corresponding finger on the other hand wants to move too. She took piano lessons as a child in part to get this under control. Me too. It actually gets in the way of certain guitar techniques but has also resulted in a unique playing style. You wouldn't know it if you watched me play guitar, but there are certain chord shapes I avoid and others I gravitate to because of this. My childhood & teenage doctor, also my mom's doctor after she got ill, called it "neural crosstalk."

A side effect is that I'm ambidextrous in many ways. I can write as comfortably with my left hand as my right, though I use my right hand nearly all the time 'cuz that's how my mom taught me. Much the same with playing golf, hockey or baseball. As a kid I was a good hockey player. I could easily switch sides, right & left, and outmaneuver the other kids. If I'd been a better skater…  :)

-Dave-

You see how unfair life? I can't play a hot damn thing other than the radio.

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on May 27, 2018, 01:00:48 pm
Greetings from Lake Como  :)
(Belvedere on the path to the Pizzetti, reached during my daily cardio rehab walk )

Such walks and scenery do the heart (literal and figurative) good. I always feel better (mood) after mine.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on May 27, 2018, 01:08:24 pm
Nothing special. It just caught my eye as I was sitting, waiting for someone to arrive.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 27, 2018, 04:36:08 pm
Greetings from Lake Como  :)

(Belvedere on the path to the Pizzetti, reached during my daily cardio rehab walk )

Definitely a view worth the walk all by itself!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on May 27, 2018, 11:13:04 pm
Nothing special. It just caught my eye as I was sitting, waiting for someone to arrive.
Wonderful play of light and lines. With shots like these, of open windows, I usually get some part too bright and overexposed. But this is right on.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on May 28, 2018, 01:38:24 pm
Wonderful play of light and lines. With shots like these, of open windows, I usually get some part too bright and overexposed. But this is right on.
JR

Thanks. A fair degree of slider push in Lightroom, but this was taken with my Panasonic G1. And dynamic range has come a long way since then.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 28, 2018, 02:22:01 pm
Shadow self(ie).

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on May 29, 2018, 07:21:46 am
Thanks. A fair degree of slider push in Lightroom, but this was taken with my Panasonic G1. And dynamic range has come a long way since then.
WHAT!!!! You still use a relic to make wonderful pictures. How is that possible? 😁

Oh yeah, I have the same camera and use it for certain applications. A very direct simple camera.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 29, 2018, 08:32:01 am
I like simple cameras. They suit my simple mind.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on May 29, 2018, 09:17:42 am
I like simple cameras. They suit my simple mind.

+1

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 29, 2018, 10:02:35 am
I like simple cameras. They suit my simple mind.

+2
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on May 29, 2018, 10:26:51 am
+3. And it really torques me that I no longer can buy a still camera that doesn't include a filmstrip capability. I could buy a Leica, but Leica no longer is a serious camera. It's jewelry. I used to love the split image rangefinder. Nowadays automatic focusing on something like the Pen-F is so far superior to split image that it's ridiculous there's still split image stuff out there.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on May 29, 2018, 11:03:08 am
Many thanks for your advice Rob!
During my walks I use a heart rate monitor (with chest strap) and I do not go above 120 bpm (80% of my maximum heart rate would be 125). After reading your advice, I emailed my cardiologist asking him if I should reduce the intensity of my physical activity, he answered that what I do is OK.

From my walks, two Cyclamen purpurascens with heart shaped  ( ;) ) leaves...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 29, 2018, 04:40:13 pm
Not many folks walking the trails today: temp currently 91°F. Yet another "spring" consisting of extended late winter followed by a headfirst dive straight into summer.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on May 31, 2018, 08:54:04 am
A Challenging Perspective
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 31, 2018, 09:42:28 am
A Challenging Perspective

Ha, challenging all right. Very perceptive. Love it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 31, 2018, 02:17:59 pm
Ha, challenging all right. Very perceptive. Love it.
Yes!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 31, 2018, 04:41:37 pm
Around 20 years ago there was road construction in my locale that forced me to drive an alternate route to my office at the time. The alternate route took me past a Lutheran church that had a flashing LED sign placed out where passing cars would see it. One morning a traffic clog stuck me in place for awhile close to the sign. Which was slowly flashing in sequence: THERE IS … NO GOD … BUT GOD … THERE IS … etc. I watched the sequence a couple times before realizing: photo op! But I had no camera with me.

The next day I drove out before the morning traffic rush, camera in tow, prepared to take a photo of a church declaring its disbelief in big red letters. But they'd changed the sequence.  :-\  Drat!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on May 31, 2018, 04:46:31 pm
My white lily plants have shot up from nothing to ~75cm tall in nearly no time!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on May 31, 2018, 05:33:55 pm
Around 20 years ago there was road construction in my locale that forced me to drive an alternate route to my office at the time. The alternate route took me past a Lutheran church that had a flashing LED sign placed out where passing cars would see it. One morning a traffic clog stuck me in place for awhile close to the sign. Which was slowly flashing in sequence: THERE IS … NO GOD … BUT GOD … THERE IS … etc. I watched the sequence a couple times before realizing: photo op! But I had no camera with me.

The next day I drove out before the morning traffic rush, camera in tow, prepared to take a photo of a church declaring its disbelief in big red letters. But they'd changed the sequence.  :-\  Drat!

-Dave-

Sadly, I was not able to get a pic of one highway billboard that I saw while travelling:

Jesus is Lord.
ANY QUESTIONS?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on June 01, 2018, 01:52:35 pm
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/882/40684164260_fbe3926094_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24Z7YBW)Kiss May Goodbye (https://flic.kr/p/24Z7YBW) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 01, 2018, 04:01:38 pm
This is a photo of a Real Street.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on June 02, 2018, 06:46:22 am
This is a photo of a Real Street.

-Dave-
Dave
Could go under lawn too...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 02, 2018, 09:37:40 am
Here are some Real Real Street photos (some I have posted before.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on June 02, 2018, 02:13:50 pm
I like your tar shots, Eric. The third is strangely familiar  ;)

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on June 02, 2018, 02:34:14 pm
Here are some Real Real Street photos (some I have posted before.)
Nice.
I did something similar, cannot believe it's 10 years ago ...
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjpXeDCb
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 02, 2018, 03:15:29 pm
Could go under lawn too...

 :D  Parts of my lawn are looking very street this spring. Rain forecast for next Tuesday, so I may scatter some seed Monday evening.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 02, 2018, 03:21:44 pm
Spiffy pics, Eric & Stefan.  :)  Some of my fav subject matter when using b&w film. Something I should return to…

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on June 02, 2018, 04:39:45 pm
Here are some Real Real Street photos (some I have posted before.)

Esoteric jewels.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on June 02, 2018, 07:57:36 pm
Here are some Real Real Street photos (some I have posted before.)

Great series!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 02, 2018, 11:58:47 pm
Currently fixated on my nascent white lilies.  :)

#1: Leitz 40/2 Summicron-C at f/2.4. (Mike Johnston at The Online Photographer is also a fan of this lens. The Minolta Rokkor version he spotlights (http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/cameras-old/) uses the same optical design.)
#2: 7Artisans 50/1.1 wide open.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 03, 2018, 12:05:23 am
I like your tar shots, Eric. The third is strangely familiar  ;)

Jeremy
Yes, some guy ripped it off to use it for his avatar. I should sue!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 03, 2018, 04:05:49 pm
Take 5 - on each foot.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on June 04, 2018, 01:40:57 pm
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1754/28690280938_dd18c6174f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KHgbYb)Nuthe (https://flic.kr/p/KHgbYb) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 04, 2018, 04:53:38 pm
A proper spring day for once: warm in the sun, cool in the shade, with a nip in the air. And very windy. My park walk was brisk…took few photos. #1 has a *bird-y vibe to me, while in #2 the vine looks like an elongated snail. The tree in #2 is a fresh fall…probably came down during the night or earlier today.

-Dave-

*Not Birdy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdy_(singer)).  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on June 04, 2018, 09:44:47 pm
All these spring greens...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on June 04, 2018, 10:29:05 pm
A proper spring day for once: warm in the sun, cool in the shade, with a nip in the air. And very windy. My park walk was brisk…took few photos. #1 has a *bird-y vibe to me, while in #2 the vine looks like an elongated snail. The tree in #2 is a fresh fall…probably came down during the night or earlier today.

-Dave-

*Not Birdy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdy_(singer)).  ;)
Aren't you clever Dave. This is good seeing even if it is anthropomorphic. To me they both look like snakes despite the two probes in the first image. The one that looks like outline of bird (especially when seen small)  struck me as a head devouring another animal.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on June 05, 2018, 01:42:02 am
My handbook of Valtellina flora (https://www.amazon.it/alpina-Valtellina-Valchiavenna-Roberto-Ferranti/dp/8897292089) says that Primula farinosa is rare in Valtellina, but last Saturday in Malghera there were really many of them (never seen so many) in glorious bloom (not very satisfied by the photo, indeed).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on June 05, 2018, 03:24:35 am
*Not Birdy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdy_(singer)).  ;)

My wife's cousin (and the late Sir Dirk Bogarde's niece).

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on June 05, 2018, 03:52:46 am
A proper spring day for once: warm in the sun, cool in the shade, with a nip in the air...


I prefer #1. It looks like a skeleton of a knee and leg. ...interesting.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 05, 2018, 01:20:54 pm
Lucky for some.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on June 05, 2018, 02:19:07 pm
Lucky for some.

Very nice stree...uh...archi-?..land-?(no, not that)...contemp-?...Ar...t(?!)...ummmm, black and white image! (Whew! Easy for some... ;) )
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 05, 2018, 04:27:52 pm
My wife's cousin (and the late Sir Dirk Bogarde's niece).

Neato! Young(er) Birdy is responsible for IMO the definitive version (https://youtu.be/7LlKoQAvXUc) of the Fleet Foxes song White Winter Hymnal.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 05, 2018, 04:38:18 pm
Lucky for some.

Rock & roll is here to stay. Or so say Big Star: https://youtu.be/NnEzkeaopmA

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 08, 2018, 04:14:43 pm
Speaking of Big Star, specifically the cover of their Radio City album, I changed a lightbulb in my garage earlier today and kinda had to take a photo.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on June 10, 2018, 03:16:33 am
Bulbs need to be photographed in color with a red ceiling, you know!?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on June 10, 2018, 11:45:38 am
Pulsatilla alpina subsp. apiifolia near the Brata hut. Very young, last Sunday was not born yet.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 10, 2018, 04:05:07 pm
Bulbs need to be photographed in color with a red ceiling, you know!?

I'm way too lazy to paint that ceiling.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 11, 2018, 06:14:27 am
D Block

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 12, 2018, 11:21:34 am
From the air, near Salt Lake City.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 12, 2018, 11:41:24 am
No.1

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 12, 2018, 03:17:01 pm
No.1

Indeed, favorite number of narcissists everywhere. (Also the loneliest number according to some.) And the title of a plaintive Juliana Hatfield outtake! (https://youtu.be/PbLGPIIdPVw)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: David Eckels on June 12, 2018, 03:21:06 pm
Indeed, favorite number of narcissists everywhere. (Also the loneliest number according to some.) And the title of a plaintive Juliana Hatfield outtake! (https://youtu.be/PbLGPIIdPVw)

-Dave-
Thus the title: Egoiste!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 12, 2018, 08:21:40 pm
Thus the title: Egoiste!

Indeed (quoting self from previous post)!  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 13, 2018, 07:04:08 am
Coffee Grinder.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 13, 2018, 10:02:51 am
Coffee Grinder.
That looks just like the coffee grinder I use every morning.
Shouldn't this be posted over in the "Best Coffeemaker" thread???   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 13, 2018, 10:15:47 am
... Shouldn't this be posted over in the "Best Coffeemaker" thread???   ;)

Oh, no! The Dog would go berserk from caffeine overdrive ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 13, 2018, 04:04:01 pm
Ride the Red Carpet. Or is it Four Crosses? An example of why I'm not a big fan of *wide-ish lenses when snapping urban scenics. Invariably a wide snapshot from a constrained vantage point (parking lot roof in this case) will contain two or more "proper" photos.

-Dave-

*~3mm in this case, or 28mm "equiv."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 14, 2018, 01:18:52 pm
Hotel California.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 15, 2018, 10:25:03 am
Vermeer!
In our front yard.

(Grinding down a tree stump.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 15, 2018, 12:41:33 pm
From a recent trip to the Greek Islands. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM @ f/2.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Car_Corfu.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 15, 2018, 01:04:08 pm
Hotel California.

I'm sure it looked a lot like that, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 15, 2018, 03:46:45 pm
From a recent trip to the Greek Islands. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM @ f/2.

Reminds me of the interior of my dad's Dodge Custom Royal when I was a kid. He'd started stripping it, intending to do a full refurb, but then abandoned the project.  :)

(Pic taken in Florida c. 1957.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 16, 2018, 12:52:27 pm
Reminds me of the interior of my dad's Dodge Custom Royal when I was a kid. He'd started stripping it, intending to do a full refurb, but then abandoned the project.  :)

(Pic taken in Florida c. 1957.)

-Dave-

Sadly I have to wonder how many of these projects are entered into with passion only to be put on the back burner and ultimately forgotten.

The car I photographed was never even a project, abandoned by the side of the road and left to rot. Apparently - thanks to my wife for having the presence of mind to capture the identity plate mounted under the bonnet - it is a Simca type 90 A from the 50s.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 16, 2018, 04:27:02 pm
Sadly I have to wonder how many of these projects are entered into with passion only to be put on the back burner and ultimately forgotten.

In my dad's case it was my mom who put the kibosh on the project. He was also in the midst of refurbing a sailboat with a friend, and she told him he could do one or the other but not both. So the Royal sat for a while before being sold. Its spot in the garage was then taken up by the sailboat.  ;D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 17, 2018, 05:51:03 am
HotCal's way out.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on June 17, 2018, 08:35:51 am
HotCal's way out.

I wanted to post a thumb up, but I don't know how to do it…
Anyway, Thumb up!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 17, 2018, 08:43:59 am
HotCal's way out.
This one is grim.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 17, 2018, 09:54:36 am
Here's another thumb up.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 17, 2018, 12:10:13 pm
Thanks; just the way I was brought up - what with Grimm's an' all...

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on June 18, 2018, 12:08:00 am
Nova Scotia in two shots.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 18, 2018, 05:05:49 am
Sunny days.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 18, 2018, 08:59:51 am
Rob, lovely series.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 18, 2018, 09:05:03 am
Pushkar, India. Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Pushkar_Sadu.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 18, 2018, 09:11:12 am
Grand shot, Keith. McCurry would be proud of you.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on June 18, 2018, 11:43:01 am

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2927446770-5.jpg)

Essaouira, Morocco.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on June 18, 2018, 11:51:10 am

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2927455523-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 18, 2018, 02:26:58 pm
Rob, lovely series.

Thanks, Keith

I've a few more from the power station visit - surprising what a quick shoot can offer if the place has potential. Reminds me of Bailey's famous throwaway line about Jean Shrimpton: "She's the cheapest model in the world because you only need to shoot half a roll of film and you've got the shot."

I know this is the WP thread, and no how-to-improve-it comments are wanted, but regarding your old guy in India, I just wanted to indicate to anyone wondering about photographic balance etc. that they should consider the sunlit spot on the right, and how well it strikes an equilibrium within the whole. Take that away, and it alters everything. These are the kinds of details that might look accidental but are anything but, and give you immediate framing clues on what feels right as you look through the camera.

As that's dangerously close to describing/defining art, I think it a good moment to retreat.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 18, 2018, 02:33:07 pm
Hotel California, failed Brutalist edition.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3Charen
Post by: Rob C on June 19, 2018, 07:09:36 am
Charnel House:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 19, 2018, 10:16:40 am
You're on a roll, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 19, 2018, 10:56:17 am
You're on a roll, Rob.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on June 19, 2018, 04:17:07 pm
You're on a roll, Rob.

Mw Too. +2

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on June 19, 2018, 05:35:52 pm
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1766/42188707154_33c1aac541_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27h59NE) Summer Birches (https://flic.kr/p/27h59NE) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr

I was too lazy to set up the tripod, thus blurry and/or unsharp . A shame, I know. Like the light anyway.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 19, 2018, 05:43:03 pm
You're on a roll, Rob.

Russ, Eric and Peter - thanks for the vote of confidence; it's a bit ironic that that establishment has been waiting for me so long, though I did visit a few years ago, but with a different attitude. Maybe the rain put me in the mood as it did the place. I really have reached a point where sunshine pretty much puts the camera away.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 20, 2018, 12:00:46 am
I was too lazy to set up the tripod, thus blurry and/or unsharp . A shame, I know. Like the light anyway.

Looks sharp enough to me. But I admit my interest in sharp is fast "on the wane" these days. Nice light for sure, and nice tones in the photo.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 20, 2018, 12:04:24 am
I really like everything on this page so far. Even my own silly snap.  ;D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 21, 2018, 10:30:50 am
Underbelly:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 21, 2018, 11:56:05 am
Cheer up, Rob, not all is lost ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on June 21, 2018, 12:25:36 pm
Russ, Eric and Peter - thanks for the vote of confidence; it's a bit ironic that that establishment has been waiting for me so long, though I did visit a few years ago, but with a different attitude. Maybe the rain put me in the mood as it did the place. I really have reached a point where sunshine pretty much puts the camera away.

:-)

Hello Rob, long time no speak.

Is this the place you have been wanting to shoot for ages? I recall you mentioning an industrial type area close by some years ago.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 21, 2018, 01:31:51 pm
Hello Rob, long time no speak.

Is this the place you have been wanting to shoot for ages? I recall you mentioning an industrial type area close by some years ago.

Hi Riaan,

Yes, it's only about 20mins away by car (using the by-pass systems to avoid chaotic town traffic) but as with so many things, it gets put to the back of the list... I feel amazed that I still have lists!

Another thing on the list is trying to get official access, but as I am also caught up in the annual shutter-varnishing ritual... for myself, the thing would really come into its own as a location for fashion pix, but as I don't have any of those to do, I suppose I might just shoot stuff and save it as effect files for any model stuff that may come along with the lottery win. I would choose the lottery win first, though.

The heat had started in earnest, but it has been a long, slow winter, not as cold as usual but looong.

All the best to you and the Blonde.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 21, 2018, 01:37:39 pm
Cheer up, Rob, not all is lost ;)

But I am cheerful, Slobodan; either cheerful or high on marine varnish fumes.

At least that's legal here.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on June 21, 2018, 02:35:00 pm
Russ, Eric and Peter - thanks for the vote of confidence; it's a bit ironic that that establishment has been waiting for me so long, though I did visit a few years ago, but with a different attitude. Maybe the rain put me in the mood as it did the place. I really have reached a point where sunshine pretty much puts the camera away.

:-)

I understand...I pass all kinds of things while I take a drive to clear my head.  I see all kinds of possible subjects. Nothing jumps out on these drives. It takes time for me to be receptive. Often a subject will emerge years later. A certain time of day, a difference in light and weather and all of a sudden I'm into a start of a body of work that could take three years to complete. Totally consuming me...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 21, 2018, 03:45:59 pm
I understand...I pass all kinds of things while I take a drive to clear my head.  I see all kinds of possible subjects. Nothing jumps out on these drives. It takes time for me to be receptive. Often a subject will emerge years later. A certain time of day, a difference in light and weather and all of a sudden I'm into a start of a body of work that could take three years to complete. Totally consuming me...

Peter


Try explaining that to somebody who hasn't spent their life working in the graphic arts!

Though it can be a bit of a real bitch sometimes, I really wouldn't have been able to a work at anything else and stay sane. The beauty of the thing is that you never switch off by the clock: it can be as compelling at midnight as at ten in the morning. Those dry periods we all hit are only - for me - a product, of the amateur state - a luxury, perhaps; it never happened to me during the working years. In fact, my appetite was insatiable.

:-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on June 21, 2018, 03:59:54 pm

Try explaining that to somebody who hasn't spent their life working in the graphic arts!

Though it can be a bit of a real bitch sometimes, I really wouldn't have been able to a work at anything else and stay sane. The beauty of the thing is that you never switch off by the clock: it can be as compelling at midnight as at ten in the morning. Those dry periods we all hit are only - for me - a product, of the amateur state - a luxury, perhaps; it never happened to me during the working years. In fact, my appetite was insatiable.

:-(
People not in the arts, whatever type, don't get it...And I think that's a good thing.

Pter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 22, 2018, 08:49:46 am
Travelling light:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 22, 2018, 12:45:54 pm
Another from a recent trip to Greece. Leica M240, 21mm Super Elmar ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Interior.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 22, 2018, 12:56:09 pm
Thanks, Keith

I've a few more from the power station visit - surprising what a quick shoot can offer if the place has potential. Reminds me of Bailey's famous throwaway line about Jean Shrimpton: "She's the cheapest model in the world because you only need to shoot half a roll of film and you've got the shot."

I know this is the WP thread, and no how-to-improve-it comments are wanted, but regarding your old guy in India, I just wanted to indicate to anyone wondering about photographic balance etc. that they should consider the sunlit spot on the right, and how well it strikes an equilibrium within the whole. Take that away, and it alters everything. These are the kinds of details that might look accidental but are anything but, and give you immediate framing clues on what feels right as you look through the camera.

As that's dangerously close to describing/defining art, I think it a good moment to retreat.

:-)

Rob, I believe you are right. That said, sometimes, particularly when speed is of the essence, framing, by necessity, becomes instinctive rather than considered.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on June 22, 2018, 01:53:13 pm
Hi Riaan,

Yes, it's only about 20mins away by car (using the by-pass systems to avoid chaotic town traffic) but as with so many things, it gets put to the back of the list... I feel amazed that I still have lists!

Another thing on the list is trying to get official access, but as I am also caught up in the annual shutter-varnishing ritual... for myself, the thing would really come into its own as a location for fashion pix, but as I don't have any of those to do, I suppose I might just shoot stuff and save it as effect files for any model stuff that may come along with the lottery win. I would choose the lottery win first, though.

The heat had started in earnest, but it has been a long, slow winter, not as cold as usual but looong.

All the best to you and the Blonde.

Rob

Ah the varnish, a never ending story :)

Thank you, I have passed on the well wishes to the Blonde, we are hopefully tying the knot sometime this year, by the way. Guess it is about time.

I am glad you are shooting that structure Rob, I also love the way you see the intimate aspects of it. The pics tell a story for me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 22, 2018, 03:23:56 pm
Another from a recent trip to Greece. Leica M240, 21mm Super Elmar ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Interior.jpg)

Very nice, Keith. I like it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 22, 2018, 04:55:42 pm
Pointed my phone camera out the window a handful of times during yesterday's plane trips. The first is from near Sacramento, California, while the second is from Salt Lake City, Utah.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on June 23, 2018, 01:36:48 am
I must maybe look for my old thread on Nguni cattle and post some pics there, done a fair bit of them over the years.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 23, 2018, 05:04:27 pm
Spotlight.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 23, 2018, 07:45:12 pm
Yes! You're still rolling.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 23, 2018, 11:25:33 pm
Yes! You're still rolling.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on June 24, 2018, 03:09:03 am
Spotlight.

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 24, 2018, 08:37:07 am
Thanks, guys.

The thing is, the longer I remain active in photography the more convinced I become that you are only limited by the circumstances in which you find yourself.

I've mentioned before that I believe that I could wander around here and get a useful picture every time. That's not to turn me into genius, but just that the ambience is generous. I know I crave a return to city life, but at the same time I know it would be one helluva wrench! That said, I think we need some kind of pasture new at different phases in life. The ideal, pour moi, would be a lottery win and a new life in a top apartment in Rome, a city my wife-to-be and I fell in love with back in '57. (This solving some possible mystery?)

I spent lunchtime looking at snaps of Cindy Crawford's daughter and wondering what kind of life the future was going to deal her. All the advantages of native wealth and good looks don't, of themselves, guarantee happiness; check out Stephanie of Monaco if you don't think I have a point.

On the other hand, maybe it was simply that my fish could have been hotter.

Perhaps just as well we can't read the runes.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 25, 2018, 07:18:52 am
Last one in the series - a happy one just for Slobodan!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on June 25, 2018, 10:31:53 am

marathon...

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2938844595-4.jpg)

home...

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2938847879-4.jpg)

alps...

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2938844579-4.jpg)

Without prejudice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 25, 2018, 01:43:15 pm
Another of the many children who demanded our attention in India. With no direction from me, this little chap went through a multitude of poses any of which would have made the grade. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_Boy2.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 25, 2018, 02:29:51 pm
He's beautiful, Keith, and it's a fine portrait.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 25, 2018, 02:56:23 pm
He's beautiful, Keith, and it's a fine portrait.

Russ, many thanks.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on June 25, 2018, 04:19:52 pm
Mt. Elbrus. Southern Russia, in the Caucasus Mountain Range. The tallest mountain in Europe and the 10th most prominent peak in the world.
Altitude 5642 meters.

An acclimatization stop for today. Ayesha and her group of Saudi female friends are at 4200 meters.

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2939223093-5.jpg)

The climb to the summit shall be attempted, in stages, starting at 0300 hrs tomorrow, weather permitting.


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 25, 2018, 04:21:56 pm
Wow!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 25, 2018, 04:44:32 pm
Another of the many children who demanded our attention in India. With no direction from me, this little chap went through a multitude of poses any of which would have made the grade. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_Boy2.jpg)

Best of them so far - IMO.

You can't beat a good model :-) and an equally good eye does no harm whatsoever.

Rob



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 25, 2018, 04:48:18 pm
And I thought only men were crazy!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 25, 2018, 05:41:18 pm
Last one in the series - a happy one just for Slobodan!
These would make a great book.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 25, 2018, 05:43:20 pm
My friend K runs marathons but has no interest (so far) in mountain climbing. Hope Ayesha summits!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 25, 2018, 05:44:07 pm
Best of them so far - IMO.

You can't beat a good model :-) and an equally good eye does no harm whatsoever.

Rob
Agreed!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on June 26, 2018, 06:13:34 am

Russ, Rob, Dave....thanks.

I hope the group makes it to the summit and back without mishaps.

Thanks again.

My friend K runs marathons but has no interest (so far) in mountain climbing. Hope Ayesha summits!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 26, 2018, 07:56:13 am
These would make a great book.

Eric,

Truth is, it would probably be capable of offering an amazing, entire issue, of Vogue or one of those publications; all it needs is a small group of ubermodels and the right clothes... Peter Lindbergh would go climactic over it as, of course, would I, preferably without him around.

Books? I wasted several months making layouts etc. before realising that what turns me on would not be pop enough to let a publisher save his skin.

As with pretty much all shooting for fun (of genres that once supported my lifestyle) I don't think that self-publication meets the demands of my inner demons. Either somebody feels they want to pay for it, or I am letting ego spend my meagre savings. Maybe if I was around fifty or so it could still make some kind of fiscal sense... that bird has turned to ancient dust; no tail feathers left to shake, baby!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 26, 2018, 08:15:46 am
"You can't beat a good model".

Rob, Eric, thanks, appreciated!

I can certainly understand where Rob is coming from, given where he's been, but to be quite honest I'm not sure I'm comfortable capturing subjects who knowingly pose. I feel more at home capturing people as I find them but admit that this can also lead to discomfort.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on June 26, 2018, 08:42:33 am
"You can't beat a good model".

Rob, Eric, thanks, appreciated!

I can certainly understand where Rob is coming from, given where he's been, but to be quite honest I'm not sure I'm comfortable capturing subjects who knowingly pose. I feel more at home capturing people as I find them but admit that this can also lead to discomfort.

;-)

That spot of yellow is so good.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 26, 2018, 09:28:50 am
That spot of yellow is so good.

Peter
Absolutely.
Keith has a gut color sense that gives a lovely consistency to his photos.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 26, 2018, 11:29:40 am
Absolutely.
Keith has a gut color sense that gives a lovely consistency to his photos.

Eric


He's an artist; natural, trained and professional.

Q.E.D.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 26, 2018, 11:59:11 am
Peter, to be perfectly honest when I first looked at the file I did wonder if the spot of yellow needed to be included. I then masked out that spot and realised that it was almost as if it was casting light upon his face. It stayed!

Eric, Rob, really, too kind, but there again, sadly, I have to admit I wouldn't  have a clue where to start with B&W and I leave that to those who have that expertise.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on June 26, 2018, 05:05:23 pm
Excellent people image. Well taken and it tells a story. The boy proudly poses wearing part Western, and part Indian garb, in an Indian environment.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on June 26, 2018, 06:03:53 pm
Gentiana acaulis L. in Val di Sacco.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 27, 2018, 10:29:33 am
Another of the many children who demanded our attention in India. With no direction from me, this little chap went through a multitude of poses any of which would have made the grade. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_Boy2.jpg)

I've been coming back to this splendid thing, Keith, and I'll tell you why: I have four sons. They're all grandpas now, but I remember the expression on this kid's face. You caught it exactly. I don't know whether or not you intended to do that. I suspect you shot a whole series of the kid. But this one says something about boys that age that's timeless. I'll also tell you that if you have a kid with that expression on his face. . . watch out.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 27, 2018, 11:19:33 am
It's just perfect, Russ; colours, expression and equilibrium. Personally, I'd put it as one of - if not the best of - Keith's pictures.

It just grips, and can handle repeated scrutiny. Not many photos can do that.

Now, if he could arrange for a model on one of his old Greek beds...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 27, 2018, 12:47:39 pm
John, thanks, appreciated.

Russ, what can I say, he was a star.

Rob, I'm pretty sure no model would go anywhere near one of my abandoned buildings, let alone one of the abandoned beds. ;-)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 27, 2018, 02:25:13 pm
Old Fashioned Cherry at the Bottom. Sacramental Firelight. Samsung G7.


Ye olde romantic you!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 27, 2018, 02:27:25 pm
Another olde romantic:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: David Eckels on June 27, 2018, 02:53:25 pm
Another olde romantic:
No cherry there ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 28, 2018, 08:39:08 am
No cherry there ;)


Long picked...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 28, 2018, 04:19:49 pm
From my recent travels.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on June 28, 2018, 05:03:21 pm
From my recent travels.

-Dave-

Neat!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 28, 2018, 05:11:45 pm
From my recent travels.

-Dave-
Oh, I'd call it a-maze-ing!  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 28, 2018, 06:41:43 pm
Slobodan thought he is a Monet... he ain't, of course. But, heck, lilies are lilies, even in Florida:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 28, 2018, 08:57:00 pm
This is a guitar geek post.  ;)  Some pages back I posted a closeup pic of a Collings 290 electric guitar (based on a 1950s-style Gibson Les Paul Special) that I'd set up for an acquaintance. I was so taken with the guitar that I decided to find one, or at least something like it, for myself. Anyway on my recent trip I visited a few "vintage" & used guitar shops, and in one of 'em I played an instrument that had it. I didn't buy right then but instead decided that if the guitar was still for sale a week later I'd pull the trigger. It was and so I did. It's a 1964 Gibson *SG Special, with pickups factory wired out-of-phase. Which means a variety of cool snarly sounds with both pickups on, depending on how the volume & tone controls are set. I've been playing it so much the last couple days that my left hand is sore. Plays fast & easy and sounds glorious.

Update: I've removed the strings the SG came with and installed a slightly heavier set more to my liking. I also popped the pickups out and had a look. Turns out they're not wired out-of-phase but rather one of 'em has its magnets installed backwards (or upside down if you prefer). I really like the OOP sound so I left 'em alone. I also cut two pieces from an old popsicle stick and used 'em to shim up the rear (aka "bridge/lead/treble/back") pickup to balance its output with the other one. This is a common non-invasive mod with these guitars as the pickups are non-adjustable height wise.

-Dave-

*The SG (Solid Guitar) was just the redesigned Les Paul model prior to Les' endorsement deal with Gibson ending in late 1963. The volume & tone pots in my guitar date it to no earlier than March of '64.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 28, 2018, 09:03:56 pm
My white lilies waited 'til I came back home before blooming. I'm positive that was the reason!  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on June 29, 2018, 02:08:24 am
Rural.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on June 29, 2018, 03:37:31 am
My white lilies waited 'til I came back home before blooming. I'm positive that was the reason!  :D

I do like that composition.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 29, 2018, 07:08:54 am
Rural.
Riaan, that's a marvelous shot.

It's great to see you back on LuLa, by the way.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 29, 2018, 07:30:01 am
Rural.

Lovely shot; interesting change from wave motion dynamics and good to see your interest in goode olde black and white!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on June 30, 2018, 08:19:17 pm
Lily pr0n.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 01, 2018, 04:03:26 am

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2946546292-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 01, 2018, 06:35:04 am
(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2946546292-5.jpg)

Nice atmospheric!

Did you know that one of our members actually gets up close and personal with tigers? No kiddin' - he has the snaps (NPI).

Makes mountain complexes look like child's play.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 02, 2018, 12:25:57 pm
Another of the delightful, dignified and stoical people it was our pleasure to meet in India.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_Pride.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 02, 2018, 12:31:01 pm
Keith,

I like the blue decorative floral dancing in that sea of yellow...another great picture.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 02, 2018, 12:36:59 pm
Thank you, Peter, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 02, 2018, 01:32:18 pm
Keith,

I like the blue decorative floral dancing in that sea of yellow...another great picture.

Peter

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 02, 2018, 01:33:59 pm
(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2946546292-5.jpg)

Rayaan, This is a marvelous photograph. Brings back some memories. Where in Asia did you shoot it?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 02, 2018, 02:18:41 pm
Keith,

I like the blue decorative floral dancing in that sea of yellow...another great picture.

Peter
+1.

I love the color sense you show in all your photos.

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on July 02, 2018, 02:41:11 pm
Thanks Russ for the welcome. Haven't really left to come back as such but one gets busy with life and the crap that goes with trying to survive every day. Photography takes a back seat then as the internal creativity "dam," as that Heisler chap spoke about, has so many ripples from the stones being thrown into it from all sides. It makes it difficult to "see" for me.

I shot a seascape sunrise yesterday for the first time in months, just couldn't motivate myself to get up. But anyway, so it goes. One can't have sunshine all the time.

Rob, glad you like the B&W but I need to add it's one from a year or three ago. And yes, the waves thing I have done to death now. The seascapes also I guess, frustration is the order of the day.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on July 02, 2018, 02:43:19 pm
Lovely photo Keith. Your considered compositions and sensitive use of colour has been an inspiration for me for years.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 02, 2018, 04:28:13 pm
Eric, Riaan, thanks very much and Riaan, it's good to see you posting here again.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 02, 2018, 08:23:15 pm
Nice one Keith.

Another of the delightful, dignified and stoical people it was our pleasure to meet in India.
...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 02, 2018, 08:25:28 pm
Rob, Russ.
Thanks for stopping by.

Russ, this is from a very local area temple in Ho Chi Minh City.

Best.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 03, 2018, 04:57:32 am

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2952004296-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 03, 2018, 07:14:35 am
Rob, Russ.
Thanks for stopping by.

Russ, this is from a very local area temple in Ho Chi Minh City.

Best.

Ah yes, Saigon.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 03, 2018, 07:27:51 am
Ah yes, Saigon.

Funny thing, Russ: I often wonder what became of Bombay, Madras, Calcutta and good old Ceylon.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 03, 2018, 09:27:14 am
They're still in the heart and in Kipling, Rob. Same thing with Burma. "An' the dawn comes up like thunder outer China 'crost the Bay!" It was stuff like this that made me volunteer for Siam twice. And the first time I got out of the airplane in Bangkok what I saw was right out of Kipling and his fellows. In my stories about Col. Gus Cass in Thailand (Short Stories from Thai Seeds (http://www.russ-lewis.com/asia/Shorts/S-preface.html)) I wrote about his arrival in Bangkok the second time:

"Cass was astonished at the changes in Don Muang airport since he'd last passed through it. The old, tile-roofed buildings had been water-stained and shabbily exotic, his vision of what turn-of-the-century Siam might have been. Now there was a lot more concrete on the field and he and Pat were walking toward a flat-roofed, concrete-block military passenger terminal that would have seemed more in place on a base in the United States. He could see the old civilian terminal a half mile down the ramp and he remembered the feeling of adventure that old building always had given him.

"The air and the countryside fit his memories though, the crushing heat, the faint fragrance of myriad flowers, beyond the tarmac a tracery of lacelike foliage leading the eye out and out, plane by plane, until distance vanished in an accumulation of haze. To understand Asian painting, he thought, one had to see Asia. Rising planes rather than vanishing-point perspective to symbolize distance wasn't a "primitive" device. It was an accurate rendition of this reality."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 03, 2018, 06:43:54 pm
Mt. Elbrus..

The summit.

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2953087121-6.jpg)




Nice atmospheric!

Did you know that one of our members actually gets up close and personal with tigers? No kiddin' - he has the snaps (NPI).

Makes mountain complexes look like child's play.

;-)

Rob
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Post by: Telecaster on July 03, 2018, 08:35:16 pm
Mt. Elbrus..

The summit.

Brava!

-Dave-

BTW, Rob, I'll soon be off to New Nederland for a museum visit followed by some upstate relaxation. Maybe I'll bring along my wooden clogs.  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 04, 2018, 04:05:16 am
Brava!

-Dave-

BTW, Rob, I'll soon be off to New Nederland for a museum visit followed by some upstate relaxation. Maybe I'll bring along my wooden clogs.  ;)

I'm told it's a place where almost anything goes... but you'll probably need to wear more than the clogs in order to avoid arrest or a dose of the chill. Those sea airs can be dangerously damp; I think it has something to do with free icebergs floating downhill, but we'd need to consult with Mr Roussak for confirmation.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 04, 2018, 06:44:21 am
Thanks Dave. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 04, 2018, 07:47:55 am
Impression of a summer day
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 04, 2018, 07:53:48 am
Impression of a summer day


Beautiful, Oscar.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 04, 2018, 07:58:59 am
+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 04, 2018, 08:30:51 am
Impression of a summer day

Not sharp enou... just kidding – quite lovely.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 04, 2018, 09:07:37 am
Impression of a summer day

When I click on the thumbnail it locks up my browser (IE 11).
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Post by: Riaan van Wyk on July 04, 2018, 01:22:49 pm
Traffic on the Zululand gravel roads.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 04, 2018, 02:43:55 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on July 04, 2018, 03:45:49 pm
Sometimes, from the balcony of my home "innumerabili stelle, astri, globi, soli e terre
sensibilmente si veggono, ed infiniti raggionevolmente si argumentano
."
(G. Bruno, De l'infinito, universo e mondi)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 04, 2018, 04:40:07 pm
Sometimes, from the balcony of my home...

Well captured!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: fdisilvestro on July 04, 2018, 05:27:53 pm
Mt. Elbrus..

The summit.


Congratulations, great achievement!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 04, 2018, 05:29:30 pm
Sea level.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 04, 2018, 08:22:09 pm
.

 :D

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on July 05, 2018, 01:27:33 pm
Past their prime but still lovely. And very sweetly fragrant this year.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 06, 2018, 05:49:21 am
Thanks Francisco  :)

Congratulations, great achievement!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 06, 2018, 06:05:03 am
Come along with us along a rocky path...

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2957223959-4.jpg)

Pause for a breather. A look at a village inhabited for thousands of years..

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2957223965-4.jpg)

Watch your step, now. Slipping is the least of your worries...

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2957232871-4.jpg)

Another break....

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2957223936-4.jpg)

Pause at the summit, to take it all in...

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2957223928-4.jpg)

Time to begin the descent...careful, watch those little rocks and pebbles...

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2957223931-4.jpg)

Thank you for being with us on a trek to the summit of the Jebel Al Shams ( Mountain of the sun ) in Oman.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 06, 2018, 04:42:52 pm
Yow, fantastic terrain & scenery for a climb!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 06, 2018, 04:49:14 pm
Who dat? (A pair of critters from today's park walk.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 08, 2018, 12:30:35 pm
Thornbird:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 08, 2018, 02:50:49 pm
I guess you have a Thornbird feeder outside your window.   8)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 08, 2018, 03:49:31 pm
I guess you have a Thornbird feeder outside your window.   8)


I do, but it's transparent; just like the bricks in the new wall someone was telling us about. Works every time.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 08, 2018, 06:02:39 pm
In my usual, organised manner, I came up with the title for my old power station series this morning, weeks after making the set. BRAQUO has had a profound visual effect on me; I am rewatching the series again, still thankful for the subtitles, the French soundtrack even more alien-sounding than the few live French people I meet in reality.



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 08, 2018, 06:26:03 pm
... BRAQUO has had a profound visual effect on me; I am rewatching the series again...

That was one hell of a good tv series, Rob.

I just finished watching another French police thriller on Netflix, The Forest (La Forêt). One season only, very nice, very French.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 08, 2018, 06:32:01 pm
In my usual, organised manner, I came up with the title for my old power station series this morning, weeks after making the set. BRAQUO has had a profound visual effect on me; I am rewatching the series again, still thankful for the subtitles, the French soundtrack even more alien-sounding than the few live French people I meet in reality.

Outage... clever and very succinct for a decommissioned powerstation.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 08, 2018, 08:12:50 pm
Outage... clever and very succinct for a decommissioned powerstation.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 09, 2018, 03:32:15 am
Rob, perfect title for a super series - your images not the TV series.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 09, 2018, 03:34:41 am
Another abandoned interior from a recent visit to Greece. Leica M240, 21mm Super-Elmar ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Interior2.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 09, 2018, 04:34:41 am
Hi guys - thanks for the nice remarks re. OUTAGE; the series (Braquo) which inspired it is well worth the watching - mine came courtesy one of the streaming services.

Engrenages is another French cop drama that's pretty good, and available streamed, with subtitles if one wants them.

The summer weather has removed the emotional pull of the power station - the pull of anything, to be honest - but come winter, if I'm still here, I'll take my ass around the rest of the massive perimeter which I don't think I have seen before. The shots I have are all from two brief shoots on a seventy-five yard stretch of public road. It would have been interesting to see what Michael Kenna might have made of the place; I loved his Calais lace series. Of course, by now he'd have found the official way inside. I'm still pondering about that... and there but one of the massive differences between the young and the old: inertia.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 09, 2018, 04:51:47 am
Another abandoned interior from a recent visit to Greece. Leica M240, 21mm Super-Elmar ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Interior2.jpg)

Isn't it strange how the two cultures, Greek Island and Spanish Island, both afloat in the same little sea, have such different takes on decoration. I see almost no coloured building here in Mallorca at all, and the few that have colour can be apartment blocks that stand out like sore thumbs from the surrounding architecture.

Your interiors in that genre are all rather uplifting, despite the apparent destitution; I think it comes down to colour giving a positive vibe. Go black/white, and one might discover tears - of the wet kind, not just in fabrics.

Have you ever been drawn to shooting contemporary interiors, you know, the boutique hotel kind of pictures that find their way into Condé Nast's Traveller? Could be a commercial outlet on your trips, something to defray the costs. Maybe you are already ahead of me on that one! ;-)

Nice series-in-progress, the best kind to have!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 09, 2018, 05:43:47 am
Isn't it strange how the two cultures, Greek Island and Spanish Island, both afloat in the same little sea, have such different takes on decoration. I see almost no coloured building here in Mallorca at all, and the few that have colour can be apartment blocks that stand out like sore thumbs from the surrounding architecture.

Your interiors in that genre are all rather uplifting, despite the apparent destitution; I think it comes down to colour giving a positive vibe. Go black/white, and one might discover tears - of the wet kind, not just in fabrics.

Have you ever been drawn to shooting contemporary interiors, you know, the boutique hotel kind of pictures that find their way into Condé Nast's Traveller? Could be a commercial outlet on your trips, something to defray the costs. Maybe you are already ahead of me on that one! ;-)

Nice series-in-progress, the best kind to have!

Rob

Hi Rob, I think of the Greek colour palette as life-affirming but it does vary enormously depending on location. Many of the islands - particularly the Cyclades where the houses are white cubist en masse - can look very dramatic but are not my cup of tea glass of ouzo. On other islands and areas of mainland Greece the houses are often rather severe unpainted stone. Happily the Ionian and Northern Aegean Islands are particularly colourful.

These abandoned buildings are becoming scarce, or rather the accessible buildings worth photographing are scarce, plenty of abandoned buildings about but most are either too far gone, plain stone shells, or well secured and inaccessible. In three weeks, trying most days, I only found a handful worth the effort: a labour of love, that buzz of not knowing what lies around the next corner.

Commercial work, well, the money could come in handy, but I've zero interest in revisiting that source. It's now purely that labour of love and above all great fun.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 09, 2018, 06:03:18 am
Hi Rob, I think of the Greek colour palette as life-affirming but it does vary enormously depending on location. Many of the islands - particularly the Cyclades where the houses are white cubist en masse - can look very dramatic but are not my cup of tea glass of ouzo. On other islands and areas of mainland Greece the houses are often rather severe unpainted stone. Happily the Ionian and Northern Aegean Islands are particularly colourful.

These abandoned buildings are becoming scarce, or rather the accessible buildings worth photographing are scarce, plenty of abandoned buildings about but most are either too far gone, plain stone shells, or well secured and inaccessible. In three weeks, trying most days, I only found a handful worth the effort: a labour of love, that buzz of not knowing what lies around the next corner.

Commercial work, well, the money could come in handy, but I've zero interest in revisiting that source. It's now purely that labour of love and above all great fun.

Very interesting. Any idea why these homes have been abandoned? Is it purely old people without succession, so to speak? I presume it is not the crisis, since these look like abandoned longer ago. I see superstition hanging next to the door. Amazing how well that is preserved, yet the people have moved on long since. An intriguing detail which, given the surrounds, makes one ponder life.

Great shot.
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Post by: KLaban on July 09, 2018, 07:21:59 am
Very interesting. Any idea why these homes have been abandoned? Is it purely old people without succession, so to speak? I presume it is not the crisis, since these look like abandoned longer ago. I see superstition hanging next to the door. Amazing how well that is preserved, yet the people have moved on long since. An intriguing detail which, given the surrounds, makes one ponder life.

Great shot.

Thanks.

The abandonment has been due to a number of factors. Historic migration to the Americas and the Antipodes etc. due to a lack of employment and opportunity particularly on the islands.  An aging population combined with the understandable desire of the younger family members to live in modern and more comfortable accommodation. The houses are often handed down to multiple beneficiaries who cannot agree on what to do with them. Migration from the towns to the coast. Foreigners tend to buy villas and apartments rather than old houses. People in general are unwilling to live in areas of abandonment.

The old houses are photogenic but once abandoned decline rapidly. Many of the properties I photographed a few years ago are sadly now piles of rubble. 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 09, 2018, 09:50:37 am
Another abandoned interior from a recent visit to Greece. Leica M240, 21mm Super-Elmar ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Interior2.jpg)

More exceptional work, Keith. Bravo!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 09, 2018, 10:23:47 am
Keith,

In this case the yellow is the foil...Do you still paint?

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 09, 2018, 11:07:29 am
Russ, many thanks, very much appreciated.

Peter, This was a difficult exposure, the warmth and strength of the sunlight spilling through the door and at the top of the curtained window was such a contrast to the poorly lit cool interior. I'm sure many folk would resort to combining multiple exposures but being a single shot and available light kind of guy it's not something that interests me, if I can possibly do something in camera I will. As for painting, well, it's been a few years since I've picked up the brushes, I'm very much committed to the photographic work for the moment, but never say never.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 09, 2018, 12:13:38 pm
Fine work. Love the juxtaposition of all the elements, not least the wonderful light coming through the door. It is surely symbolic, the light and yellow. It evokes naturalness and an ethereal inviting mood...if only we can what is beyond that door. Just fine...

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on July 09, 2018, 12:22:55 pm
optical trickery (subtle)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 09, 2018, 12:41:23 pm
Fine work. Love the juxtaposition of all the elements, not least the wonderful light coming through the door. It is surely symbolic, the light and yellow. It evokes naturalness and an ethereal inviting mood...if only we can what is beyond that door. Just fine...

JR

Hi John, many thanks.

Just beyond the door sat my wife, waiting extremely patiently, bless her...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 09, 2018, 01:16:32 pm
Hi John, many thanks.

Just beyond the door sat my wife, waiting extremely patiently, bless her...

;-)

Keith,
In many of the photos I make for painting, my wife is waiting just off camera...Often freezing as I love winter paintings.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 09, 2018, 01:36:23 pm
Keith,
In many of the photos I make for painting, my wife is waiting just off camera...Often freezing as I love winter paintings.

Peter

Peter, they suffer for our art.

Bless 'em.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 09, 2018, 02:00:12 pm
Peter, they suffer for our art.

Bless 'em.

;-)

In very many ways...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 09, 2018, 02:40:23 pm
Just beyond the door sat my wife, waiting extremely patiently, bless her...

My wife seems to frequently wander into the frame, especially when I'm using a wider-angle lens. Sometimes it's a good thing – "wife for scale".

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 10, 2018, 12:17:34 pm
Wonderful color harmony. Even the yellows are so subdued.
Beautiful shooting.

Another abandoned interior from a recent visit to Greece. Leica M240, 21mm Super-Elmar ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Interior2.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on July 10, 2018, 01:02:40 pm
Enjoying the view
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 10, 2018, 01:44:13 pm
Enjoying the view

Ruckenfigur and a good one...

Peter

 
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Post by: RSL on July 10, 2018, 01:56:57 pm
Good stuff, Bill.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 10, 2018, 03:57:53 pm
Rayyan, thanks.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 11, 2018, 08:55:59 am
Work in progress (much like my photography).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 11, 2018, 12:04:44 pm
Playing with balance and relationships, I think, JNB.
I like them a lot.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on July 11, 2018, 12:31:17 pm
One of those photos I stood in one place for an hour ... without too much success ... light didn't break through properly.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1823/41535845560_e93c20d662_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26ho4Nh)
 Rainy Forest (https://flic.kr/p/26ho4Nh) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 11, 2018, 12:39:20 pm
One of those photos I stood in one place for an hour ... without too much success ... light didn't break through properly.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1823/41535845560_e93c20d662_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26ho4Nh)
 Rainy Forest (https://flic.kr/p/26ho4Nh) by Stefan Berndt (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fototypo/), auf Flickr


Moira, the mare I often feed with carrots, stands still for hours. Sometimes, she appears to have remained overnight on exactly the same spot as on the previous day, despite having a large field to explore. Of course, the fact that most of it is arid may be influential.

Or she just likes my carrots. And is patient which, devoid of much else left to do, is an emotional state to which well worth the clinging.

She is also a part-time philosopher.

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 11, 2018, 05:14:06 pm
Imagine the philosophy of the day lily: born in the morning, pestered by flies & bees immediately, decaying visibly by the hour, will never know its offspring or even if they'll be any, dead and gone shortly after sundown.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on July 12, 2018, 04:13:17 am
Peter, Russ - thanks for the positive comments
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 12, 2018, 04:36:40 am
Imagine the philosophy of the day lily: born in the morning, pestered by flies & bees immediately, decaying visibly by the hour, will never know its offspring or even if they'll be any, dead and gone shortly after sundown.  :D

-Dave-

But does Lily know?

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 12, 2018, 06:46:46 am
But does Lily know?

;-)

Lily has not a clue, until...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 12, 2018, 08:17:51 am
Imagine the philosophy of the day lily: born in the morning, pestered by flies & bees immediately, decaying visibly by the hour, will never know its offspring or even if they'll be any, dead and gone shortly after sundown.  :D

But then there are the Remains of the Daylily.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 12, 2018, 08:33:12 am
A nice, brief "Day in the life of...," JNB.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 12, 2018, 04:09:09 pm
Continuing the theme, one from the garden today. Spot the day lilies.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Garden11_LuLa.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 12, 2018, 11:31:16 pm
But then there are the Remains of the Daylily.
A fragile beauty, just before it decomposes and returns to the earth. Nice.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 13, 2018, 08:56:12 am
Continuing the theme, one from the garden today. Spot the day lilies.

Lush and beautiful.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on July 13, 2018, 09:23:07 am
A fragile beauty, just before it decomposes and returns to the earth. Nice.

Thank-you Eric and John. Of course the title is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, with apologies to Anthony Hopkins, the cast and crew, and the author of the original book The Remains of the Day (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1aCp1Z1gAo). Then, of course, there's the Remains of the Day lunchbox, from Waiting for Guffman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Ml4u3hLlY).  As Corky St. Clair says "Kids don't like eating at school, but if they have a Remains of the Day lunchbox they're a lot happier." :)
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Post by: KLaban on July 13, 2018, 09:31:11 am
Lush and beautiful.

Thanks. The difficulty, in the drought and heatwave we're experiencing this summer, is keeping it that way.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 13, 2018, 05:34:41 pm
My day lily crop has been very poor this year, likely due to the yo-yo-ing temperatures and multiple ice storms we experienced in early spring. Only two left to bloom after this one.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 14, 2018, 09:50:41 pm
Nice late evening sky tonight. As usual I was sitting in my backyard enjoying the summer warmth. My pal Susan, who'd come over for dinner, was fussing about in my garden. "Hey, Dave, you should take a picture of this." She then came over and showed me a smartgizmo pic she'd taken. So I popped inside and grabbed a camera.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 14, 2018, 10:31:16 pm
Nice late evening sky tonight. As usual I was sitting in my backyard enjoying the summer warmth. My pal Susan, who'd come over for dinner, was fussing about in my garden. "Hey, Dave, you should take a picture of this." She then came over and showed me a smartgizmo pic she'd taken. So I popped inside and grabbed a camera.  :)

-Dave-
Dave

I love this quality of very soft and beautiful light...tell Susan she has a great eye, as you do.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on July 15, 2018, 02:05:55 am
Dave

I love this quality of very soft and beautiful light...tell Susan she has a great eye, as you do.

Peter

Indeed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on July 15, 2018, 02:07:46 am
Washed up on the beach.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 15, 2018, 03:14:05 am
Makes me think of deep space.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 15, 2018, 03:15:17 am
Nice late evening sky tonight. As usual I was sitting in my backyard enjoying the summer warmth. My pal Susan, who'd come over for dinner, was fussing about in my garden. "Hey, Dave, you should take a picture of this." She then came over and showed me a smartgizmo pic she'd taken. So I popped inside and grabbed a camera.  :)

-Dave-

Lovely graphic!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 15, 2018, 01:39:06 pm
Washed up on the beach.
The surrounding water movement makes the image. Nice.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 15, 2018, 03:32:37 pm
The surrounding water movement makes the image. Nice.

JR

+1
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Post by: KLaban on July 15, 2018, 04:10:27 pm
Washed up on the beach.

Riaan, very nice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 15, 2018, 05:08:07 pm
Washed up on the beach.

Cool! Looks kinda like Kermit put on a dyed Miss Piggy wig and decided to end it all.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 15, 2018, 05:13:39 pm
Susan appreciates the kudos. (I took a few different versions…she picked the one I processed & posted.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 16, 2018, 10:09:46 am
Barbie, India. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar ZM @f/2.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Barbie.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 16, 2018, 01:42:38 pm
Another beautiful shot, Keith. And this kid looks as if he's not planning a revolt if you turn your back. Love it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 16, 2018, 04:08:27 pm
The Last Dance. I used a 1970s Leitz 100/4 Macro-Elmar via R-to-M adapter. There are two versions of the lens, the first requiring a bellows to focus and then this one with a "normal" helical.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: churly on July 16, 2018, 05:06:55 pm
Security guard I hired to keep the robins from eating all of the strawberries in our garden.  Not much good.Chuck
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 17, 2018, 06:32:51 am
Another beautiful shot, Keith. And this kid looks as if he's not planning a revolt if you turn your back. Love it.

Thanks, Russ, appreciated.

One of the reasons I posted the shot was because I, we, thought there was more than a degree of ambiguity there.

Is he wearing his big sisters hand-me-downs - not only the Barbie t-shirt but also slinky, skinny jeans with bobbles on the zips - or is she sporting a tom-boy haircut. The feet look particularly slim, elegant and feminine.

Either way he, she, is certainly a very beautiful and charming kid.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 17, 2018, 07:26:18 am
The nice thing about ambiguity is that it's often a broad kind of spectrum: I see a decidedly male face enjoying the allure of western dolls - a further ambiguity within that, in that he may or may not be aware of the childish/adult references within Ms B to another, quite different type of doll than the cartoon/physical doll pleasure he may or may not think he is sporting.

Sorta like carrying your copy of Hustler onto the tube (not that I imagine anyone here would buy that organ), settling down and holding the issue up to read - assuming, the while, you are not strap-hanging.

India; inscrutable. Like Ms B?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 17, 2018, 07:31:47 am
It's a good question, Keith. I can't be sure, of course, but I'd bet that's a boy. I say that because I had four of 'em, and I'm familiar with that expression. On the other hand, since I never had girls it may be that a girl can have the same expression. In any case you really caught him (or her).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 17, 2018, 11:10:55 am
Personally I hope he's wearing his big sisters hand-me-downs and doesn't give a damn.

Whatever, bless him!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 17, 2018, 11:29:24 am
Really cool shot Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 17, 2018, 11:31:15 am

Surfer!
Well done.

Washed up on the beach.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 17, 2018, 11:35:31 am
Philosophical!: and a gentle image to go with it.
Like.

Imagine the philosophy of the day lily: born in the morning, pestered by flies & bees immediately, decaying visibly by the hour, will never know its offspring or even if they'll be any, dead and gone shortly after sundown.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 17, 2018, 12:58:14 pm

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2974756989-6.jpg)

Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh City.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 17, 2018, 01:59:48 pm
Looks as if Saigon hasn't changed much.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 17, 2018, 02:02:33 pm
Personally I hope he's wearing his big sisters hand-me-downs and doesn't give a damn.

Whatever, bless him!

Bless them all, Keith. An awful lot of people in Western societies have absolutely no idea how hard life can be.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on July 17, 2018, 05:49:59 pm
Bless them all, Keith. An awful lot of people in Western societies have absolutely no idea how hard life can be.

True that.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 18, 2018, 04:05:57 am
Equally, a lot of people in the West know only too well how tough it can be in the West!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 18, 2018, 06:18:02 am
What struck me the most about the people we met in India was how dignified, relaxed and stoical they were.

What a contrast then to the people here on LuLa!

;-)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 18, 2018, 12:35:04 pm

(http://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2725737525-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 18, 2018, 01:21:15 pm
What struck me the most about the people we met in India was how dignified, relaxed and stoical they were.

What a contrast then to the people here on LuLa!

;-)

They're not all that way, Keith. I roomed with an Indian at University of Michigan. He was a great guy, but far from dignified, relaxed or stoical. But even he would have been a dignified, relaxed and stoical contrast to the folks on LuLa.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 18, 2018, 01:28:37 pm
I like that one, Rayyan, for its graphical and claire-obscure qualities.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 18, 2018, 02:11:00 pm
+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 18, 2018, 05:25:05 pm
Not entirely a success—too much background intrusion tonally on the subject despite the shallow DOF—but I like it well enough. From my garden yesterday evening.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 18, 2018, 05:39:39 pm
Today's planned 1.5 mile park walk turned into 3.5 miles due to footbridge construction. The detour took me along a trail extension I hadn't walked in over a decade. That last walk was a nasty one: winter, deep snow crunched down by foot traffic to icy slickness, multiple slips & falls, badly bruised knee. But this one was lovely.

The cheeky gal/fellow in the pic followed me around for a few minutes, chirping constantly. "I can haz seeds?"  :)

7Artisans 50/1.1 lens wide open.

Edit: I added a second, slightly gentler rendering of the pic. Slightly different crop too.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 19, 2018, 05:02:16 am
Slobodan, Russ thank you for stopping by.
Much appreciated,gentlemen.

Kind regards.

I like that one, Rayyan, for its graphical and claire-obscure qualities.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 19, 2018, 04:26:36 pm
Here comes Tiffany
My best friend, Tiffany
Wearing a size too small of sweater

Me and Tiffany
Dressing up pretty
We love to ride, we love to canter

My best friend Tiffany
She is so popular
We're goin' from site to site and pool to pool tonight


— from Girl's Room by Liz Phair

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 19, 2018, 05:31:51 pm
No sombrero
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 20, 2018, 05:09:33 am
No sombrero

Nice; you almost caught an entire Tour de France there!

Actually, I may start to think again about Impressionism in photography...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 20, 2018, 04:43:35 pm
No sombrero

Super!

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on July 20, 2018, 04:46:28 pm
v2.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on July 24, 2018, 08:44:30 am
Travels.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on July 24, 2018, 09:45:18 am
... sometimes you've great sky and light, but you're not in a particular nice place ...



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 24, 2018, 02:41:07 pm
Quince, Greece. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar @f/2.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Quince.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 24, 2018, 03:05:56 pm
Good eye, Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 24, 2018, 05:10:30 pm

+1
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Post by: Rayyan on July 24, 2018, 05:11:02 pm
(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2986442224-6.jpg)

Tibet.
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Post by: Rayyan on July 24, 2018, 05:14:36 pm

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2986442226-6.jpg)

A potter and family. India.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 24, 2018, 05:15:30 pm

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2986442182-6.jpg)

Laos.
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Post by: Rayyan on July 24, 2018, 05:21:32 pm

Russ.

When I visited it was not called Saigon!

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2986460739-6.jpg)

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2986460770-6.jpg)


Looks as if Saigon hasn't changed much.
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Post by: petermfiore on July 24, 2018, 06:08:14 pm
Quince, Greece. Leica M240, 50mm Zeiss C Sonnar @f/2.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Quince.jpg)
Keith,
Exquisite color, light and a beautiful painterly feel...Wonderful.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 24, 2018, 07:53:26 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 24, 2018, 09:43:22 pm
When I visited it was not called Saigon!

The owners of the Vietnamese restaurant in my neighborhood tell me that "Saigon" is more widely used now than in the first few decades following the war. It's also true that "Ho Chi Minh City" does stick in some American craws.  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on July 24, 2018, 09:46:20 pm
.

So cute. The little ones anyway…the adult seems pretty messy.  :D

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on July 24, 2018, 09:49:31 pm
v3. Via a Nikkor 105/2.5, the original rangefinder version.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 25, 2018, 01:09:06 am

Like!

v3. Via a Nikkor 105/2.5, the original rangefinder version.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 25, 2018, 05:38:16 am
Russ, Rayyan, thanks.

Rayyan, I particularly like  potter and family.

Peter, thanks. If those Greeks know how to do anything then it's colour and light.

With the dreadful events unfolding in Greece over the last day or two my heart goes out to the people.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 25, 2018, 09:46:14 am
Russ, Rayyan, thanks.

Rayyan, I particularly like  potter and family.

Peter, thanks. If those Greeks know how to do anything then it's colour and light.

With the dreadful events unfolding in Greece over the last day or two my heart goes out to the people.


Especially when there are thoughts that it could be separate acts of arson.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 25, 2018, 10:31:27 am

Especially when there are thoughts that it could be separate acts of arson.

Rob

Sadly fires are occasionally deliberately set but this is certainly not exclusive to Greece. Reasons are many including those looking to get building permission on previously undeveloped land, those looking to loot houses, pyromaniacs and even part time firefighters looking for more employment.

Just makes it all the sadder.

 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 25, 2018, 08:52:40 pm
Eyes
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Post by: armand on July 26, 2018, 08:56:31 pm
Rainy day
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Post by: Rayyan on July 27, 2018, 03:33:56 am
Thanks Keith.

Russ, Rayyan, thanks.

Rayyan, I particularly like  potter and family.
....
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on July 27, 2018, 06:24:49 am
Wells Cathedral from the Bishop's Palace gardens
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 27, 2018, 06:53:41 am
Moving day...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 27, 2018, 01:39:04 pm
Moving day...

Peter

Peter, yours?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 27, 2018, 01:44:33 pm
The Water Carrier, Bundi, India. Hermès body, Hermès lens.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Water_Carrier.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 27, 2018, 02:14:34 pm
Another winner, Keith. Too bad about the hose, though.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 27, 2018, 02:18:09 pm
Another winner, Keith. Too bad about the hose, though.

Russ, think of it as another water carrier.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 27, 2018, 03:38:13 pm
Yes. The thought occurred to me. ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 27, 2018, 04:50:20 pm
Mars last night, via GX8 and 400mm lens (800mm "equiv"). This is the closest (~36 million miles or ~58 million km) the planet has been to us since around this time in 2003.

I briefly considered using a Nikkor 400mm + 2x TC instead, but previous experience with Saturn suggests that rather than rendering genuine spatial detail I'd just get a bigger fuzzy orb.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 27, 2018, 05:00:38 pm
We were supposed to have a Blood Moon here tonight but for the first time in months it was cloudy.

:-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on July 27, 2018, 06:58:18 pm
I just come back from watching the Blood Moon. Funny, a spot I thought is absolutely remote and unknown was crowded with about 20-30 people. Lots of haze near the horizon, so the Moon was only visible as it came up higher, too bad for shots with some landscape, so basically nothing to show really. But a nice experience anyway.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 27, 2018, 09:23:17 pm
Peter, yours?

No. I’m in NYC today. Teaching. A view outside the senior studios.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 27, 2018, 11:48:57 pm
I just come back from watching the Blood Moon. Funny, a spot I thought is absolutely remote and unknown was crowded with about 20-30 people. Lots of haze near the horizon, so the Moon was only visible as it came up higher, too bad for shots with some landscape, so basically nothing to show really. But a nice experience anyway.

Clear view of the Moon tonight after a cloudy day in southeastern Michigan, USA, but no eclipse in North America and so no Blood.  ;)

Here's one from a few six days ago (time flies!).

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on July 27, 2018, 11:49:57 pm
Moving day...

I like the geometry.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on July 28, 2018, 04:05:18 am
One a bit interesting, my trusty 500mm Reflex added some creativity ...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 28, 2018, 04:56:13 am
The Water Carrier, Bundi, India. Hermès body, Hermès lens.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Water_Carrier.jpg)


Actually, that hose lends a sort of subliminal base (via weight of colour)) to the entire structure of the shot. Imagine it without that darker line, and it seems a bit less firmly planted than it is.

I am sure that its presence dictated the instinctive vertical cropping of the picture.

Try to see it without the hose, and it changes significantly.

This is not critique: without that weight of colour, my own temptation would have been to trim the base just above the stone on the step, and have the top higher. As it is, the stronger weight of colour gives a different balance that works. Either way, you need that weight from the hose to balance the dark above and to the right of the woman's head.

IMO.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 28, 2018, 05:18:15 am

Actually, that hose lends a sort of subliminal base (via weight of colour)) to the entire structure of the shot. Imagine it without that darker line, and it seems a bit less firmly planted than it is.

I am sure that its presence dictated the instinctive vertical cropping of the picture.

Try to see it without the hose, and it changes significantly.

This is not critique: without that weight of colour, my own temptation would have been to trim the base just above the stone on the step, and have the top higher. As it is, the stronger weight of colour gives a different balance that works. Either way, you need that weight from the hose to balance the dark above and to the right of the woman's head.

IMO.

Rob

Yes, it would have been easy enough to remove the hose in post but I prefer not to meddle, at least not to that extent and as you've implied, Rob, I feel it adds balance.

With regard to critique, the reason I post in the without prejudice thread is because I'm not actively seeking it. I'm not the least interested in providing critique, never have been, never will be, but I'm not averse to receiving it, if that makes any sense?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 28, 2018, 05:29:09 am
No. I’m in NYC today. Teaching. A view outside the senior studios.

Peter

Good, I somehow couldn't picture you living there, but rather I see you surrounded by trees.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 28, 2018, 08:27:01 am
About the Water Carrier: I conclude that both Keith and Rob have good eyes.
I agree about the balance with the hose.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 28, 2018, 09:16:51 am
Good, I somehow couldn't picture you living there, but rather I see you surrounded by trees.

;-)

Keith,
I moved away from the big city 30 years ago...to northeast Pa. Trees abound. It changed my life is so many ways.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 28, 2018, 10:14:59 am
Keith,
I moved away from the big city 30 years ago...to northeast Pa. Trees abound. It changed my life is so many ways.

Peter


Have you ever given a thought to looking at what remains standing from the days of the huge W. Eugene Smith project in Pittsburgh, and doing a contemporary take? I ask, because you have proved that you have a very good sense of hard industrial space (in your street work - a far cry from the forest) but I have to confess to knowing very little about the size of Pa. and so the logistics may be crazy.

Nonetheless, that would give some dedicated guy a huge challenge to take onboard.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 28, 2018, 10:16:45 am
...to northeast Pa. Trees abound. It changed my life is so many ways.

Lyme disease?  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 28, 2018, 10:29:03 am
Lyme disease?  ;)
Lyme ticks tend to congregate in tall grass rather than in trees.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 28, 2018, 11:21:01 am
Lyme ticks tend to congregate in tall grass rather than in trees.

Indirectly, Eric.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2017/03/28/Lyme-disease-surge-in-Pittsburgh-Western-Pennsylvania-more-acorns-more-mice-carriers/stories/201703210143

Quote
If you become infected with Lyme disease this year, blame the acorn — the bitter-tasting nut that falls from oak trees..l
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 28, 2018, 01:13:44 pm

Have you ever given a thought to looking at what remains standing from the days of the huge W. Eugene Smith project in Pittsburgh, and doing a contemporary take? I ask, because you have proved that you have a very good sense of hard industrial space (in your street work - a far cry from the forest) but I have to confess to knowing very little about the size of Pa. and so the logistics may be crazy.

Nonetheless, that would give some dedicated guy a huge challenge to take onboard.

Rob
I wish this could be a commission and would be fun too...It's about a six hour drive, not impossible but would require major planning and revenue.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 28, 2018, 04:12:27 pm
I wish this could be a commission and would be fun too...It's about a six hour drive, not impossible but would require major planning and revenue.

Peter


I instantly see the hitch! About the only way - commission aside - that could make sense is by doing it in a spare time way: a bit at a time when nothing paying is around.

It would be a great gig for some cat living in that city...
 
Rob
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Post by: Telecaster on July 28, 2018, 08:37:50 pm
Re-documenting my geetars for insurance and legal stuff. Here's a pair of '50s classics: a Gretsch 6120 Chet Atkins and a Gibson ES-350T. This version of the 6120 is associated not so much with Chet but rather Duane Eddy, who recorded all his late '50s–60s hits & albums with it. Mine is from the same year as Eddy's (1957) but a few production runs earlier. The ES-350T is the Chuck Berry guitar. He used it for pretty much everything of note he ever recorded. This one is from 1958 and features a set of Gibson's highly regarded Patent Applied For (PAF) humbucking pickups. It also features some non-standard appointments, including a fancily-bound ebony fingerboard from the upscale Byrdland model and a Bigsby vibrato tailpiece. But the most important non-standard appointment is the piece of black foam I threaded between the strings behind the bridge to dampen weird sympathetic string resonances.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 28, 2018, 11:56:17 pm
Indirectly, Eric.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2017/03/28/Lyme-disease-surge-in-Pittsburgh-Western-Pennsylvania-more-acorns-more-mice-carriers/stories/201703210143
Thanks for that link, Slobodan. I was unaware of the acorn link. My son had Lyme disease, which was not properly diagnosed for several years, which meant that the eventual treatment was long and slow.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 29, 2018, 09:15:53 am

I instantly see the hitch! About the only way - commission aside - that could make sense is by doing it in a spare time way: a bit at a time when nothing paying is around.

It would be a great gig for some cat living in that city...
 
Rob

My thoughts too...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 29, 2018, 07:37:39 pm

Waiting to go home..

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2993804767-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 01, 2018, 06:30:33 am
Van Gogh at the beach
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 01, 2018, 07:33:22 am
Van Gogh at the beach

Yep, feel the thickness of the pain/paint!

Nice observation and connection.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 01, 2018, 08:47:00 am
Van Gogh at the beach
Good one!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on August 01, 2018, 02:36:44 pm
Good one!
Now that's a good seeing and a fine image.

I see Van Gogh's and Monet's and others, almost every day when I visit the home. I feel like stealing them and putting them in my home! They are so inspiring.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 01, 2018, 04:43:50 pm
Textile impasto.  ;)

Might've mentioned this before, but each time I visit the van Goghs at my local museum I make sure to look at the heavily textured ones from the side. You can see the peaks & dips in the paint.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 01, 2018, 10:46:28 pm
Dog life
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 02, 2018, 12:18:36 am
Clearly after a long day of hard work.
Nice set.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Tony Ovens on August 02, 2018, 09:56:29 am

I instantly see the hitch! About the only way - commission aside - that could make sense is by doing it in a spare time way: a bit at a time when nothing paying is around.

It would be a great gig for some cat living in that city...
 
Rob


Sometimes maybe we miss the gritty black and white not just of the film or the print but the reality of the 50s and while we could revisit the places they would be in colour and sanitized.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMCO_NTcRxI   This clip shows what you might see in Pittsburgh today.
Tony
 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 02, 2018, 10:31:25 am

Sometimes maybe we miss the gritty black and white not just of the film or the print but the reality of the 50s and while we could revisit the places they would be in colour and sanitized.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMCO_NTcRxI   This clip shows what you might see in Pittsburgh today.
Tony


That's not the Pittsburgh that would make the drama...well, maybe if you move beyond the PR images you still find grit.

Could be that most of those one-time steel and construction industrial hubs are much the same today, morphed into something quite other. On the sad side, some areas never get to rebuild into something else, and just languish in terminal decline. Could be that it's a case of critical mass: if rich enough, there's momentum in the money, and renewal almost assured, just like with people.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on August 02, 2018, 10:46:40 am
Lyme disease?  ;)
Sorry Slobodan just saw this,

Oh yes, it most definitely is here...must guard for that always. Used to be in summer, not a problem. Now it is and sometimes into winter.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 02, 2018, 05:02:50 pm
Dog life

A near spittin' image of my former boss Janet's *newfie, Bear.  :D

-Dave-

*Newfoundland breed, that is.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 02, 2018, 05:22:35 pm
I'm finding now with various "50 years ago" stuff (celebrating, commemorating) that we've hit a point where the past doesn't look (or sound) as old as it used to.  ;)  When I was a teenager the 1920s, then 50 years ago, was an utterly foreign world of fuzzy b&w images and crackly lo-fi sounds. But anything well photographed or recorded from the '60s looks and sounds quite modern.

Attached pic of my dad's lifelong friend Steve + two of his kids + me taken around this time 55 years ago, and about 20 feet from where the two guitars in my previous pic (taken last weekend) were placed. Is that a transistor radio on the table or a smartphone in a retro case?  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on August 03, 2018, 02:33:46 am
We have an "awesome" summer here in Berlin this year. Almost no rain since April, temperatures well over 30 degrees celsius regularly, which is not common here. At first welcomed with the usual people lying on the meadow enjoying the sun in the park, in the meantime it's rather taking shelter from the sun and theres not much meadow left ... but makes an unusual photo.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on August 03, 2018, 02:59:21 am
The Trinket Seller. Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/The_Trinket_Seller.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on August 03, 2018, 07:08:05 am
Well done, Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 03, 2018, 09:47:33 am
Well done, Keith.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on August 05, 2018, 12:22:41 pm
+1.
Lovely. Love your environmental portraits.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on August 05, 2018, 12:32:12 pm
Thanks guys.

If I crop I'll usually crop to the same format as the original capture but in this case I simply couldn't get it to work: hence 4:3. It was a tricky exposure but I think I got there, eventually.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 08, 2018, 01:16:31 pm
Sunsets
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 10, 2018, 10:13:27 am
Saw it (the image) as I was standing, exercising my bladder.

It was still there (the image) when I found my camera.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on August 10, 2018, 12:28:47 pm
Saw it (the image) as I was standing, exercising my bladder.

It was still there (the image) when I found my camera.

There seems to be a shaking, almost a shimmering. Are you sure you didn't capture it as you were finishing the micturition reflex?

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on August 10, 2018, 01:02:01 pm
Rob~
"Just is ". Bardot luscious~
p.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on August 10, 2018, 01:16:18 pm
The Women's Refuge, Jodhpur, India. Leica M240, 21mm Super_Elmar ASPH

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/The_Womens_Refuge.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 10, 2018, 02:54:56 pm
Rob~
"Just is ". Bardot luscious~
p.


Thank you, Patricia; simple always seems to get through my mental carapace - perhaps an attempt to balance both pressures...


For some peculiar reason, I've been thinking of her recently, wondering how she dealt with the physical changes that time brings to all flesh. I wondered if her timely exit from movies was a planned action to leave at the peak, never to be seen going down the professional hill, or whether she really did prefer stray dogs to most of the people she had buzzing around her - which probably makes sense.

Whatever her reasons, she certainly was unique, the forerunner to thousands of amateur and professional imitators. I think of the Teutonic Claudia Schiffer who also made a career out of looking like her -  and probably a lot more money from it too. It's said that being the first in something doesn't always bring the greater success.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 10, 2018, 03:00:50 pm
There seems to be a shaking, almost a shimmering. Are you sure you didn't capture it as you were finishing the micturition reflex?

;-)


Interesting theory, but no, everything was still, including the shimmer -  I definitely don't bear a Nikon in the john unless by design!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 10, 2018, 09:35:01 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 11, 2018, 03:28:41 pm
Pollensa.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on August 11, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Interesting stuff, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 11, 2018, 05:20:45 pm
Interesting stuff, Rob.
That is a good description of most of Rob's recent images, this one included.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 12, 2018, 04:06:52 am
Thanks, Russ and Eric; I suppose it's an example of the images I would never have made on film. Digital allows the luxury of trying stuff out without wasting money in the process. Not the kind of thing I'd probably have printed up either, were my printer still able to print anything - but certainly interesting and entertaining enough for me to spend some time figuring out where it might go. That's a definite plus for digital photography, and perhaps an illustration of how it can take us to different stations not on the film circuit. Guess it takes time to work out the new options available in photography.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 12, 2018, 08:58:48 am
OK, Rob, now can you give us a list of the Compositional Rules you followed in taking/making each of your recent images?    ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 12, 2018, 10:28:46 am
OK, Rob, now can you give us a list of the Compositional Rules you followed in taking/making each of your recent images?    ;D

Not a problem, Eric:

Compositional Rules

1. Hold camera with viewfinder at eye;

2. move camera until eye is happy;

3. press button.

Voilà! C'est tout.

Can I monetize those rules, Eric, or do you think they may be far too radical to find popular acceptance?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 12, 2018, 10:33:47 am
...

2. move camera until eye is happy;

...

Makes one wonder how some of you even manage to take a picture then these days, no? Considering the curmudgeons you are...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on August 12, 2018, 10:48:47 am
Not a problem, Eric:

Compositional Rules

1. Hold camera with viewfinder at eye;

2. move camera until eye is happy;

3. press button.

Voilà! C'est tout.

Can I monetize those rules, Eric, or do you think they may be far too radical to find popular acceptance?

Rob, I hope you carry that flowchart with you at all times.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 12, 2018, 10:59:31 am
Makes one wonder how some of you even manage to take a picture then these days, no? Considering the curmudgeons you are...

;-)

There is happiness in curmudgeonliness!

Lots of it resides within the inner smile and peal of laughter; all is not surface, all is not photograph!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 12, 2018, 11:05:23 am
Rob, I hope you carry that flowchart with you at all times.

;-)

I used to Keith, and it always had a special place in my camera bag. Unfortunately, I no longer carry camera bags, but only a single camera with lens attached prior to leaving home; I always forget to look for the chart. Or for the tripod, I'm afraid.

Obviously, life is not what it was before I learned to concentrate.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 12, 2018, 01:19:03 pm
I didn't have time to consult any rulebooks or find my cameras so a grab shot with the phone.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on August 12, 2018, 03:40:40 pm
Good shooting, Riaan. You held the camera with viewfinder at eye. You moved the camera until your eye was happy. You pressed the button. Voilà! And here it is.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 12, 2018, 08:03:21 pm
Good shooting, Riaan. You held the camera with viewfinder at eye. You moved the camera until your eye was happy. You pressed the button. Voilà! And here it is.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 12, 2018, 08:08:37 pm
This caught my eye.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on August 12, 2018, 10:01:58 pm
This caught my eye.

-Dave-
Cool. Just let it continue to catch your eye ;)

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 12, 2018, 11:52:17 pm
Cool. Just let it continue to catch your eye ;)

JR
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 13, 2018, 01:43:27 pm
Connections (trainstationstudy nr 4b)
Which, according to the rule of thirds, is clearly about the pillar.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 14, 2018, 03:49:51 am
Obviously, Oscar, you have no idea about what a good photograph has to be:

1. a pillar, of itself, holds no interest to third parties;

2. you have allowed important shadows to go below an acceptable value;

3. your monitor is obviously not propely calibrated;

4. the total lack of a strong, definitively blue sky makes the image look ridiculous.

But I can help you!

I have just published a new guide - a guide to end all guides - that is available by direct purchase from me. I don't use shops because I don't want my new best friends wasting precious learning time going shopping!

Just post a blank cheque to the address I shall give you via PM. (I ask for it to be blank so that I can save you money by giving the very best exchange rate at the moment of purchase! Every little bit helps!)

Expectantly yours -

Garry.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 14, 2018, 06:12:15 am
Pfff, i better send some advance cash via Western Union, no?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 14, 2018, 09:03:33 am
Pfff, i better send some advance cash via Western Union, no?

You're speaking my language!

Garry.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on August 14, 2018, 11:34:31 pm
I didn't have time to consult any rulebooks or find my cameras so a grab shot with the phone.
I rather like this image. it is quite mysterious and sensuous.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 15, 2018, 03:55:22 am
Connections II

As can be seen on this picture they are frantically building away at the new trainstation. It will be fun creating a set of images of the final result. The title for the project seems to have surfaced as well.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 15, 2018, 05:24:51 am
Here's the view towards the main entrance. An open structure. The wooden bench shows it is still under construction. The roof structure is clearly visible and includes an interesting waved shape. They are planning a large wooden statue of a dog at the front.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 15, 2018, 05:33:28 am
Here is part of the roof with the slight curving of the wave visible. It gives the impression of an upside down railway track. Although i like the abstract example previously posted here (https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=86369.msg1061537#msg1061537), i'd like to end up with a version including the wave to give that impression of tracks and the crisscrossing to allude to travels by train.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 15, 2018, 10:15:01 am
Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 15, 2018, 10:38:21 am
Oscar, nobody think of the fire hazzard?

That road bridge collapse at Genova has made me determined never to try crossing the mega one recently opened in France. Neither would I like to cross the one that's shown in the opening titles of Inspector Montalbano (should have included him in the tv lists elsewhere!).

I think the Kingston Bridge in Glasgow can't be much younger than the one in Genova... it never looked finished - the Glasgow one.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 15, 2018, 01:23:08 pm
Oscar, nobody think of the fire hazzard?

That road bridge collapse at Genova has made me determined never to try crossing the mega one recently opened in France. Neither would I like to cross the one that's shown in the opening titles of Inspector Montalbano (should have included him in the tv lists elsewhere!).

I think the Kingston Bridge in Glasgow can't be much younger than the one in Genova... it never looked finished - the Glasgow one.

Actually, i expect several of these extraordinary bridges to be part of your upcoming epic roadtrip. It 'll be your swansong anyway, so i'd say: wth...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 15, 2018, 03:28:12 pm
Actually, i expect several of these extraordinary bridges to be part of your upcoming epic roadtrip. It 'll be your swansong anyway, so i'd say: wth...


First I have to get the apartment sold, then the epic trip - if I still have my driving licence by that stage. Of course, if the lottery turns out friendly first, then I have decided to keep the apartment as a spare, buy a new red Mustang (GT variety - no rag-tops) and forget all about European classics. More crumple zone in a big Yank. Which could be important.

I guess you can't avoid them, bridges, even off motorways, because if not over them, they are over you. You could say they've got your number!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 15, 2018, 04:16:49 pm
Sorry for the off-topic rant, but we still have bridges and aqueducts from Roman and medieval times standing tall and proud, but our contemporary bridges crumble after 50 years!? In the recent case in Miami, literally the next day. Speaking about progress. Not to mention the irony of the First World looking more and more like the Third  :(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 15, 2018, 04:58:29 pm
Sorry for the off-topic rant, but we still have bridges and aqueducts from Roman and medieval times standing tall and proud, but our contemporary bridges crumble after 50 years!? In the recent case in Miami, literally the next day. Speaking about progress. Not to mention the irony of the First World looking more and more like the Third  :(


Retribution?

That probably accounts for "repopulation", too.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 15, 2018, 05:03:58 pm
From this afternoon's park walk.
#1: this lady seemed as surprised to see me as I was to see her.  :)
#2: this haughty chap stayed in place on his perch, posing (though likely not for me), for a good 30 seconds.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 15, 2018, 05:09:51 pm
Retribution?

More like selective attention to detail. "There are so many more auto accidents now than there were a century ago! People's driving skills must be poorer!"

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on August 16, 2018, 06:04:50 am
Leica M240, 35mm Summilux ASPH.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Bundi_Babe.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 16, 2018, 08:39:22 am
Okay, so it's a bit like Enya: out-of-phase layering was cool when we first heared it, so just let me do a couple of these until it becomes equally stale.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 16, 2018, 09:08:02 am
Okay, so it's a bit like Enya: out-of-phase layering was cool when we first heared it, so just let me do a couple of these until it becomes equally stale.

No prejudice against the technique - just never heard of her before this post, and so I looked her up and discovered she sings.

I'm thinking desperately hard to think of the name of another woman who sang like that during the 80s - she used to be on music shows on Super Channel.

Anyway, glad you are now following the Combined Rules of Photography and Imaging a little bit more closely; that attention is improving your photography imaging tremendously!

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 16, 2018, 10:04:46 am
Perhaps we could call it "phomaging," to bring back a hint of a connection to photography.
After all, "imaging" is a pretty broad term that doesn't refer only to digital stuff that made use of a camera at some point.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 16, 2018, 10:52:34 am
For quite some time I’ve been referring to myself, only half-jokingly, as a “photoshopographer.” :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 16, 2018, 11:29:51 am
Perhaps we could call it "phomaging," to bring back a hint of a connection to photography.
After all, imaging is a pretty broad term that doesn't refer only to digital stuff that made use of a camera at some point.


Hmmm... that may be too reminiscent of 'phone images, which would never do at all.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 16, 2018, 11:30:25 am
For quite some time I’ve been referring to myself, only half-jokingly, as a “photoshopographer.” :)

It's the new way, baby!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 16, 2018, 01:29:53 pm
I guess I'm more of a "Lightroomwithatinybitofphotoshopographer" these days.
Now how do I fit that onto a business card?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 17, 2018, 04:20:46 am
I guess I'm more of a "Lightroomwithatinybitofphotoshopographer" these days.
Now how do I fit that onto a business card?

Use a panoramic card?

Very trendy, and makes peole think you do big deals in film and tv.

Psychological selling.

Which brings up the subject of my new manual: 317 pages of tightly-packed facts about the art and culture of selling images in the digital age.

;-)

Full disclosure: the following image is a teaser from the aforementioned manual.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 17, 2018, 06:22:27 am
Nguni cattle.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 17, 2018, 07:35:27 am

Full disclosure: the following image is a teaser from the aforementioned manual.

omg, is this thread now degenerating into a selfie-thread? Or is it your alter-ego; Garry?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on August 17, 2018, 09:53:37 am
I know Nikon shutters aren't exactly silent, but really, Rob, ear defenders!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 17, 2018, 10:07:09 am
omg, is this thread now degenerating into a selfie-thread? Or is it your alter-ego; Garry?

No, no! Garry wrote the one on imaging; this one's mine, on advanced marketing, bringing all the experience of '60s - '80s techniques into the present-day market where they will be seen as extraordinarily revolutionary: real, face-to-face encounters over desks and in restaurants, not a computer, cellphone or electronic device to be seen!

At a stroke, this will put the reader at a massive advantage over his head-down competitor.

I am working already on the sequel: How to be a Meaningful Buyer in the New Age.

I though I'd better get in before that scoundrel Garry thinks of it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 17, 2018, 10:12:27 am
I know Nikon shutters aren't exactly silent, but really, Rob, ear defenders!

Now you're being wilfully obtuse: those are not defenders, they are transportational ears taking me from Mallorca to Baton Rouge and the glories of swamp pop rock.

I have little interest in Japanese music - from the Nikon label or any other.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 17, 2018, 03:00:50 pm
This is another illustration from Advanced Composition Compendium which is a little masterpiece on all things photographic/imographic.

It explains the mathematical ratio between the part and the holistic: the subliminal interplay between sex, high-hopes, learning at Mama's knee, disintegration, disillusion, holding it in and waiting for the taxi.

What do you want for the money?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 18, 2018, 03:48:59 am
So this is August? Who said no change in climate?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on August 18, 2018, 07:03:02 am
Great shot, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 18, 2018, 07:04:19 am
Great shot, Rob.


Thank you, Russ.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Bob_B on August 18, 2018, 09:33:55 am
As I watered the hanging pots, I noticed a sparrow in the leaves of one of the plants. She was alert, but frail, and I assume was weakened by a disease that would soon end her life.  As I watched her, I felt she knew that her time was short. I left to attend to other chores, and when I returned later that day she was gone. I think this photo captures the moment.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 18, 2018, 09:39:08 am
As I watered the hanging pots, I noticed a sparrow in the leaves of one of the plants. She was alert, but frail, and I assume was weakened by a disease that would soon end her life.  As I watched her, I felt she knew that her time was short. I left to attend to other chores, and when I returned later that day she was gone. I think this photo captures the moment.

I have come to believe that, accidents aside, all animals know that time.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 19, 2018, 05:59:02 am
I prefer non-brilliant sunshine; the charms of unbroken azure are overestimated.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 19, 2018, 06:32:05 am
This is another illustration from Advanced Composition Compendium which is a little masterpiece on all things photographic/imographic.

It explains the mathematical ratio between the part and the holistic: the subliminal interplay between sex, high-hopes, learning at Mama's knee, disintegration, disillusion, holding it in and waiting for the taxi.

What do you want for the money?

I looove the pic Rob..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 19, 2018, 06:58:00 am
This is another illustration from Advanced Composition Compendium which is a little masterpiece on all things photographic/imographic.

It explains the mathematical ratio between the part and the holistic: the subliminal interplay between sex, high-hopes, learning at Mama's knee, disintegration, disillusion, holding it in and waiting for the taxi.

What do you want for the money?

Bittersweet, ha, next thing you'll tell us is that there are actual lessons of life to be gained from godhonest streetphotography!?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 19, 2018, 07:07:43 am
Bittersweet, ha, next thing you'll tell us is that there are actual lessons of life to be gained from godhonest streetphotography!?



Oscar, it's actually the other way around: close observation of our fellows - of any of the sexual varieties now available - informs us that the less we know the better: every photographer must invest in a bucket of sand to be kept beside the front door just in case the urge to venture forth with a camera strikes when least expected! On the other hand, keep on the dark glasses and keep the sand for fires.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 19, 2018, 07:10:33 am
I looove the pic Rob..


Thank you, Riaan!

I keep thinking about going down to Palma again to find people, but then I think of the parking problems and just go back to LuLa...

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 19, 2018, 07:55:27 am

Thank you, Riaan!

I keep thinking about going down to Palma again to find people, but then I think of the parking problems and just go back to LuLa...

:-)

Don't overthink Rob...just do it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on August 19, 2018, 11:03:26 am
I prefer non-brilliant sunshine; the charms of unbroken azure are overestimated.
Quite intriguing Rob. May I ask, why this title? The image evokes for me a quiet moonlit shore scene.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 19, 2018, 01:30:22 pm
Quite intriguing Rob. May I ask, why this title? The image evokes for me a quiet moonlit shore scene.

JR


That's the romantic in you; I think more in terms of rain! For August, we have had crazy, out-of-season deluges in northern Mallorca.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 19, 2018, 05:18:39 pm
Lotsa rain and gloomy skies this month in my locale too. Fallout from the California fires, I suspect. But last week we had a pair of afternoons nice enough for park walks. For the first one I was on my own and so gave myself a photo brief to encourage seeing differently than usual: make a short focal length (25mm) image more like a longer one. Zoom in on the flower in #2 for bonus content.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 20, 2018, 10:55:24 am
Geometries.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 20, 2018, 11:09:45 am
Geometries.

Rob, please! Google is now offering me these types of questionable links to visit:
https://froot.nl/fotografie/magische-middelste-lijn-fotos-kunst-film/

I have to stop visiting the conversations here on LuLa and certainly can't attent Garry's workshop. In fact, i need to get offline, for a looooong while. Better yet, off-grid. Back to nature. Anyone have a recommendation for solar charging a digicam?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 20, 2018, 01:41:22 pm
Rob, please! Google is now offering me these types of questionable links to visit:
https://froot.nl/fotografie/magische-middelste-lijn-fotos-kunst-film/

I have to stop visiting the conversations here on LuLa and certainly can't attent Garry's workshop. In fact, i need to get offline, for a looooong while. Better yet, off-grid. Back to nature. Anyone have a recommendation for solar charging a digicam?


I can't afford Garry's workshops!

You have to accept that solar charging is only viable within the context of your having a roof over your head, a roof replete with panels designed to produce energy from the waste products of the planet Sun.

I'm working on a way to turn my own waste energy into money, but it is turning out to be a lot more complicated than I had first expected; the problem, in essence, is this: my plans invariably seem to cost more in the execution than they are able to churn back, to me, the principal investor.

My new project is about acorns, but I can't reveal more just now in case the idea gets stolen by one of the energy giants before I have had the opportunity of bringing it to market.

Thank you for your understanding of the delicacy of this matter.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 21, 2018, 05:16:05 am
This bedraggled little thing turned up, literally, in my kitchen sink. Fortunately, it had no water in it or perhaps Batman Jr. may have had a long swim around and around until help arrived.

 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 21, 2018, 06:03:34 am
This bedraggled little thing turned up, literally, in my kitchen sink. Fortunately, it had no water in it or perhaps Batman Jr. may have had a long swim around and around until help arrived.

Well, at least you now know your appartement can not be demolished.

Unless you are situated under a bridge, then all bets are off.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 21, 2018, 06:04:16 am
Rhapsody in blue
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 21, 2018, 06:11:22 am
Admittedly i missed the decisive moment by a relatively large margin. Them toddlers moving quickly and all. Here's an attempt to salvage the central idea with layering.

Follow me bro'

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 21, 2018, 06:21:45 am
Admittedly i missed the decisive moment by a relatively large margin. Them toddlers moving quickly and all. Here's an attempt to salvage the central idea with layering.

Follow me bro'

This reminds me of Picnic at Hanging Rock.

I like this treatment very much, but there are those who would feel let down that it isn't captured in camera. ;-) I am not one of them.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 21, 2018, 09:57:05 am
Going home.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 21, 2018, 03:42:40 pm
Funky fungi.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 21, 2018, 04:32:54 pm
Second chance?

For M. Clergue...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on August 21, 2018, 11:41:04 pm
Very nice Rob. To me it's like going from one portal into another. Love the play of light and shadow.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 22, 2018, 02:54:52 am
Very nice indeed Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 22, 2018, 09:10:44 am
Riaan, John - thanks very much!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 22, 2018, 09:51:13 am
 Contemporary Nostalgia
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on August 22, 2018, 12:52:02 pm
Second chance?

For M. Clergue...

Rob,
Very nice in the best sense of the word...


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 22, 2018, 12:55:20 pm
Second chance?

For M. Clergue...

Rob,
Very nice in the best sense of the word...


Peter

Thank you Peter - good to feel it isn't always the case that one has to travel to get a snap that pleases one!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 24, 2018, 10:07:17 am
The Blonde.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 25, 2018, 03:22:00 pm
A candle.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 25, 2018, 04:26:36 pm
A candle.


Great reactions with the people; love the low light!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on August 25, 2018, 07:46:31 pm
+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 25, 2018, 08:45:47 pm
A candle.

This one is delight.

 :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 25, 2018, 08:47:16 pm
+2.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 26, 2018, 11:15:24 am
Much obliged guys :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 27, 2018, 05:42:12 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on August 27, 2018, 10:26:30 pm
Behind my Studio at sunset...


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 28, 2018, 10:22:01 am
A nice golden moment.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on August 28, 2018, 12:12:10 pm
A nice golden moment.

Indeed!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on August 28, 2018, 01:48:03 pm
Thanks Eric and Riaan...


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 28, 2018, 09:48:14 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 29, 2018, 09:33:08 am
Them stairs (https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=86369.msg1064074#msg1064074) are just plain fun...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 29, 2018, 09:36:25 am
Just trying to keep up with the photochainchallenge. Can you imagine a thread with pictures longer than this one? In the CoffeeCorner of all places?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 29, 2018, 10:24:35 am
Them stairs (https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=86369.msg1064074#msg1064074) are just plain fun...

Stealing ideas from the Soviet film “The Battleship Potemkin,” 1925?  ;)

Baby carriage rolling down the Odessa steps:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on August 29, 2018, 02:43:51 pm
Peter m Fiore/ Behind my studio at sunset.


This puts me in mind of the glorious Indian yellow of of the animal processing of mango leaves. This article rivals almost all of my favourite parts of art history during my Pratt years. It also brings to mind how similar light and photography, and, light and painting are in the background of our lives, and even in the foreground of discovery yet arriving. A good read, as is that of your read of evening light disguised as tree. Lumine, Peter, lumine!

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/09/03/treasures-from-the-color-archive?mbid=nl_Magazine%20Daily%20List%20082718&CNDID=41170700&utm_source=Silverpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Magazine%20Daily%20List%20082718&utm_content=&spMailingID=14140078&spUserID=MTMzMTg0ODY5ODk2S0&spJobID=1462422528&spReportId=MTQ2MjQyMjUyOAS2
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 29, 2018, 03:30:16 pm
That's it: no more vanilla ices for me!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on August 29, 2018, 03:32:15 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on August 29, 2018, 03:56:38 pm
Pic #1 is an example of the odd color palette I can get with an uncoated lens on a hot & kinda hazy day with a moderately bright sky.

Pic #2 comes from the same lens on the same day but in the shade.

Lens: Carl Zeiss Jena 35/4.5 Orthometar at f/5.6.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: fdisilvestro on August 29, 2018, 04:05:26 pm
Love the images in this thread!

Rural Victoria

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Post by: Rob C on August 29, 2018, 05:25:20 pm

Just trying to keep up with the photochainchallenge. Can you imagine a thread with pictures longer than this one? In the CoffeeCorner of all places?
[/quote]...Oscar


Another beauty!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on August 31, 2018, 01:56:12 pm
Four from this morning's walk in town.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 31, 2018, 03:26:33 pm
Four from this morning's walk in town.

Da Beat went into town as well, didn't really catch much, although he found this mildly funny:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on August 31, 2018, 04:18:18 pm
Da Beat went into town as well, didn't really catch much, although he found this mildly funny:

 :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on September 01, 2018, 04:38:09 am
Zululand at midday.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 01, 2018, 09:37:29 am
Some folks one never forgets - refuse so to do:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 01, 2018, 03:19:46 pm
Stairs
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 01, 2018, 09:54:36 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 02, 2018, 10:13:06 am
So, there Rob, just in case you thought no one cares, this reminded me of you. Might call it "the audience"...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 02, 2018, 01:01:10 pm
Good one, ~O~.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 02, 2018, 05:16:38 pm
Prague
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 02, 2018, 05:46:48 pm
The second is excellent.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 03, 2018, 04:54:48 am
The second is excellent.

Wheras as I much prefer the first!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 03, 2018, 05:00:30 am
So, there Rob, just in case you thought no one cares, this reminded me of you. Might call it "the audience"...

My own cap is wearing out. I shall soon have to find a new one. I prefer bandanas, but the ravages of the Sun have made them too dangerous for me now, and I need something to cast shade on my face.

My musical preferences make me want to find a John Deere one, but as I think they only come with tractors, that may prove hard to accomplish!

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 03, 2018, 09:17:04 am
... I need something to cast shade on my face...

Simple  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 03, 2018, 09:45:00 am
Simple  ;)

C'mon Slobodan, I don't even know the guy!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 03, 2018, 10:41:43 am
Thank you Eric and Rob. I do prefer the first too, light was great and there is something idyllic about it.
The second is about punch, it's an HDR from 3 shots to deal with the limitations of the 1" sensor (granted, even a great full frame might have struggled with a single shot)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 03, 2018, 11:03:47 am
Make it happen!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 03, 2018, 01:51:00 pm
From the Connections series.

Sorry about the composition. I didn't have the rulebook handy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on September 03, 2018, 02:00:57 pm
From the Connections series.

Sorry about the composition. I didn't have the rulebook handy.

The composition's fine, but, if I were you I'd have the light meter looked at. ;)

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 03, 2018, 02:06:21 pm
... Sorry about the composition. I didn't have the rulebook handy.

And yet...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 03, 2018, 02:10:29 pm
The composition's fine, but, if I were you I'd have the light meter looked at. ;)

Jeremy

It's actually a brand new setting: gdpr complient exposure...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 03, 2018, 02:15:08 pm
It's actually a brand new setting: gdpr complient exposure...

That's a good one!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 03, 2018, 02:31:04 pm
PIP
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on September 03, 2018, 02:34:08 pm
Good shooting, Armand. It's street, though there's no street in sight.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 04, 2018, 01:05:26 pm
Good shooting, Armand. It's street, though there's no street in sight.

Thank you, I gave up a long time ago to understand this street thing. It was a fun shot though!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 04, 2018, 05:25:48 pm
Just making sure my lens still worked after a firmware upgrade earlier today. For now I like it.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 04, 2018, 09:17:00 pm
encounter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 04, 2018, 10:28:39 pm
Neat portraits!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on September 05, 2018, 12:24:58 am
The second one stands out the most, at least for me. +1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 05, 2018, 09:34:02 am
Only shot 2 images today, so not much to show for. A picture a day keeps the doctor away, except the whole gdpr thing kept nagging the back of my mind. Not good for the heart. Fortunately had gdpr complient exposure mode on, and i actually like this in the Connections series, because it has all the elements to properly represent the new trainstation with triangles dominating its design. The thing that bothers me though is that the open structure of the entire building and surrounds kind of makes for a chaotic display.

Not sure yet.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on September 05, 2018, 09:53:42 am
A graphically striking shot ~ O ~. Made your day worthwhile.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 05, 2018, 09:58:29 am
Well done, Oscar.

Since it is in the “no prejudice” section, I won’t tell you to make it even more graphic/contrasty ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 06, 2018, 10:47:08 am
A graphically striking shot ~ O ~. Made your day worthwhile.

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 06, 2018, 11:00:34 am
Romance on the Rocks. Cape Forchu Lighthouse. Perhaps the young man's courage was bolstered by the lighthouse phallus. But the young lady should have known her history – the area was originally named 'Cap Forchu' (meaning forked tongue of land) by Samuel de Champlain in 1604.  How the marriage proposal worked out, we can only wonder.  :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on September 06, 2018, 11:05:57 am
Love the message. Don't much care for the idea of defacing the beautiful rocks.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on September 06, 2018, 03:28:34 pm
Love the message. Don't much care for the idea of defacing the beautiful rocks.

The author SURELY used water based paints...  :~)

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on September 06, 2018, 03:42:54 pm
Surely, Peter!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 08, 2018, 12:21:20 pm
A picture a day keeps the doctor away.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 09, 2018, 05:16:51 am
A picture a day keeps the doctor away.

Especially if she's your wife and you spend more time with, in this case, a hassy hussy than with her; but then again, being a doctor doesn't always give you a conveniently fair share of personal time.

I think square is often a stronger technique for concentrating attention than the rectangle. Good framing, colours and moment; like it a lot.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on September 09, 2018, 08:25:19 am

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3058578167-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on September 09, 2018, 08:41:31 am
(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3058578167-4.jpg)

I like this image ...Looks from a little while back?

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on September 09, 2018, 08:43:26 am

Jungfrau, Eiger, and Monch.

At Winteregg...

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3052319351-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on September 09, 2018, 08:45:16 am

I must have posted it before, Peter.
Sorry about that.

Your comments are much appreciated.

Kindest regards.

I like this image ...Looks from a little while back?

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 09, 2018, 09:20:57 am
(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3058578167-4.jpg)
I like this one a lot, too.
The fingers at the right edge add a lot to the effect.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 09, 2018, 09:23:05 am
A picture a day keeps the doctor away.

It's the walking about to get the picture that keeps the doctor away. Sometimes one gets a good one (like your example). More often, my hard drive needs some 'digital Bran Buds' to clear out the crap I bring home.  :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 09, 2018, 09:28:27 am
It's the walking about to get the picture that keeps the doctor away. Sometimes one gets a good one (like your example). More often, my hard drive needs some 'digital Bran Buds' to clear out the crap I bring home.  :)

Common ailment. Hard to detect because it seldom comes with a fever.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 09, 2018, 01:05:04 pm
Cemetery across from Église Sainte-Marie, Church Point, Nova Scotia.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: David Eckels on September 09, 2018, 01:21:50 pm
Very nice photo, John!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 09, 2018, 01:31:00 pm
Yes. You got the light and processing just right.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 09, 2018, 04:24:47 pm
Cemetery across from Église Sainte-Marie, Church Point, Nova Scotia.

As my dad said after first hearing the longer solo/demo version of Hank Williams' House Of Gold (https://youtu.be/GwM0RYrRvRg), "That's almost good enough to make me believe it."

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 09, 2018, 05:14:26 pm
As my dad said after first hearing the longer solo/demo version of Hank Williams' House Of Gold (https://youtu.be/GwM0RYrRvRg), "That's almost good enough to make me believe it."

-Dave-

Made me believe I abandoned guitar too easily.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 10, 2018, 02:09:52 am
In a bad apartment building that horrible permeatig smell even pervades the neighbouring apartments, so there:

Smoke
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 10, 2018, 08:34:42 am
I suppose it is a bit like McD and similar restaurants. The difference between the marketing material and reality contains a notable gap for which photographers can be blamed as much as any of the responsible parties, so who am i to judge?

Without prejudice then:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 10, 2018, 10:11:37 am
I suppose it is a bit like McD and similar restaurants. The difference between the marketing material and reality contains a notable gap for which photographers can be blamed as much as any of the responsible parties...

Maybe for McD pics, but in your case, it was most likely CGI to blame, ie., architects.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 10, 2018, 04:46:11 pm
Apparently chameleon plant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houttuynia_cordata) already exists as a species, and this ain't it, but i'd still be inclined to call it that...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: farbschlurf on September 12, 2018, 09:30:39 am
...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 12, 2018, 09:42:52 am
I love some signs; they have a brilliant genealogy and the best ones work internationally without words.

So simple but so clever.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 12, 2018, 09:50:27 am
I love some signs; they have a brilliant genealogy and the best ones work internationally without words.

So simple but so clever.

Inspired by a classical feel for mathematics and geometry, no doubt. Or at least it didn't get in the way of the other halve of your brain... Hehehe  ;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on September 12, 2018, 12:51:36 pm
Quote: Apparently chameleon plant already exists as a species, and this ain't it, but i'd still be inclined to call it that...

One of the philodendron types~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 12, 2018, 12:58:00 pm
I replied to this earlier, but it seems not to have landed in LuLa, or I was distracted and went off to do something else. Anyway.

My classic sense of visual equilibrium has zilch to do with a sense for mathematical geometry: I only managed to get high enough grades in maths during my engineering apprenticeship because my girlfriend patiently tutored me through to a level enough to scrape past the critical line! I have zero natural feeling for maths.

Life is basically unfair, but then if it were, we'd all be interchangeable which, of course, wouldn't do at all.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 14, 2018, 03:14:13 pm
In the garden, playing with an adapted Voigtlander.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on September 14, 2018, 04:55:32 pm

Eric, thank you...

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3068369845-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 15, 2018, 06:45:30 am
Jumpin' the fence
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 15, 2018, 06:58:08 am
Jumpin' the fence


Lovely hair!

I'm trying to figure it out, but what is she doing? Of course, ambiguity is key, but that's one of the few shots where you get to see somebody doing ambiguous! There's more there than fence...

I don't have neighbours that look like that.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on September 15, 2018, 08:28:11 am
Walking the dog
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chris Kern on September 15, 2018, 07:09:33 pm
Truth be told, I've made more than a few pictures of sunsets behind silhouetted buildings, but this one worked better than most:

Cloud Cover, Vancouver, Canada, 2018
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 16, 2018, 11:56:17 am
Don't go into the rainbow
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 16, 2018, 08:08:21 pm
Tonight's Moon, about 30 minutes ago.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 17, 2018, 08:57:54 pm
And again tonight, a few hours ago. First two consecutive clear days this month. The clouds rolled in along with the annoying low-grade, high-persistence cold I've been fighting off.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on September 17, 2018, 09:15:15 pm
Tonight's Moon, about 30 minutes ago.

-Dave-
Nice. I caught that red/pink sky and moon tonight. There was a red tinge everywhere in south, west and northern sky of Toronto. Awesome sight. I edited post so I can show Dave same moon using wide angle for very small moon. I went for clouds and sky. Why? Because I was afflicted by a photographer's worst ailment- too lazy to switch lenses!

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Etobicoke-Valley/i-XZhBMWK/0/013ec6b6/M/JMRO4482%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 18, 2018, 07:58:54 am
Nice one, John.
And you got the clouds to move so you didn't need to do ICM.   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 18, 2018, 03:59:15 pm
Nice. I caught that red/pink sky and moon tonight. There was a red tinge everywhere in south, west and northern sky of Toronto. Awesome sight. I edited post so I can show Dave same moon using wide angle for very small moon. I went for clouds and sky. Why? Because I was afflicted by a photographer's worst ailment- too lazy to switch lenses!

 :D  I did take some alternates with wider views (used a zoom) but the clouds here didn't light up the same way as in your photo…so I deleted 'em.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 18, 2018, 08:18:51 pm
And one more makes three. From ~45 minutes ago.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on September 19, 2018, 09:00:20 am
Me too...


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 19, 2018, 10:57:04 am
Can I play too?

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on September 19, 2018, 10:59:33 am
When did Without Prejudice morph into Photo Chain Challenge?

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 19, 2018, 12:11:10 pm
Black Holes
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on September 19, 2018, 12:14:46 pm
Fragmentary Colossal Head...


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on September 19, 2018, 12:19:16 pm
Fragmentary Colossal Head...


Peter

Love it, Peter.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 19, 2018, 12:20:19 pm
Black Holes

A good one.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 19, 2018, 03:25:33 pm
When did Without Prejudice morph into Photo Chain Challenge?

;-)

It's catchy; not quite lupus (obviously, I'm rerunning House at the moment) but motivating. I must keep away from the mirrorless people thread or I may even catch that bug!

NBL!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 19, 2018, 04:27:03 pm
Fragmentary Colossal Head...

Brilliant!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on September 19, 2018, 07:09:04 pm
Brilliant!

-Dave-
Yes black holes and Colossal head, well seen.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 19, 2018, 09:43:09 pm
Fragmentary Colossal Head...


Peter
That's really gotta hurt!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on September 20, 2018, 08:06:21 am
That's really gotta hurt!

Imagine that headache!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 21, 2018, 12:03:45 pm
Confection of mirrors:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 22, 2018, 09:53:32 am
A picture a day, keeps the doctor away. No, i didn't develop a triangle fetish. The Harley was simply parked in the right spot. The driver probably figured it a very safe place to park because that's the policestation in the background. On the other hand, i don't think these are allowed to park on the sidewalk. Interesting dilemma.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 22, 2018, 10:11:07 am
There's this location in town with a nice graphical configuration that seems to scream street, but i have yet to figure out the interaction. One day a beautiful woman will walk past in black and red and out of pure excitement i'll probably forget to push the trigger. So, until then, this will have to do.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on September 22, 2018, 02:43:24 pm
Actually, it does very well, Oscar, as an exercise in graphics. Very nice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 22, 2018, 11:46:46 pm
Actually, it does very well, Oscar, as an exercise in graphics. Very nice.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on September 23, 2018, 04:42:07 pm
My X-Files alien head showed up earlier this afternoon for a portrait session.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 24, 2018, 07:55:05 am
My X-Files alien head showed up earlier this afternoon for a portrait session.

-Dave-


Magnetic eyes and Mitchum mouth make for good time travel.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 24, 2018, 11:04:22 am
A picture a day, keeps the doctor away. Like father, like son, except for handedness!?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 24, 2018, 11:10:08 am
Sharp eye again!

I wish grahamby was still posting, he was also good at street stuff.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 24, 2018, 12:16:52 pm
Sharp eye again!

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on September 24, 2018, 01:21:11 pm
Lovely observation~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on September 24, 2018, 01:27:25 pm
Lovely observation~
What she said. Lovely.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 25, 2018, 05:31:28 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on September 25, 2018, 06:38:43 pm
Same lens you used for Places 7 San Juan on your website ?
i like the color draw. Which lens, please ?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 25, 2018, 07:28:22 pm
Same lens you used for Places 7 San Juan on your website ?
i like the color draw. Which lens, please ?

I'm afraid the answer will disappoint you. In this particular one I played a little with few Nik filters, what you see is not how it looked like initially; I think the sunlit filter is most responsible for how it looks. It was shot with a RX10 mark IV at 88mm equiv.
The San Juan one it's mostly good light with a RX-100 (the original one) at max zoom, 100mm equiv.

Now there could be something that you see as both of them are Sony, with a 1" sensor, both compacts at a similar focal length and most important sharpness is average.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on September 27, 2018, 05:24:49 pm
Another Hazy Day...


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 27, 2018, 05:33:05 pm
Another Hazy Day...


Peter

Now an object lesson on the value of WP!

Were critiquers allowed in the room, they'd have accused you of massive camera shake and suggested all sorts of stabilisation systems to make it better.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on September 27, 2018, 06:01:38 pm
Lions and tigers a bears, oh my. Lions and tigers a bears, oh my. You simply can't post a picture with camera shake.

Oops. Forgot this is "Without prejudice."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on September 27, 2018, 06:05:18 pm
Rob and Russ,

My knees are shaking with the thought of offending anyone over such silliness...lol


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 28, 2018, 12:31:14 am
No problem.
JohnR wiggles his camera all the time.   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 28, 2018, 05:09:15 am
Now an object lesson on the value of WP!

Were critiquers allowed in the room, they'd have accused you of massive camera shake and suggested all sorts of stabilisation systems to make it better.

:-)

Maybe this is the reason that windowreflections no longer are what they were touted to be.

Double pane glass everywhere...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 28, 2018, 09:20:11 am
Voted Most Likely.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 28, 2018, 09:40:30 am
Maybe this is the reason that windowreflections no longer are what they were touted to be.

Double pane glass everywhere...


 

Alas and alack, 'tis the curse of modernism with everything getting so much better, with no visible signs of improvement.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 29, 2018, 01:34:10 pm
A picture a day keeps the... I have ab-so-lutely no idea why i like this. Maybe just "pretty colors". I do know i'd like to do this one time with a large multistorey apartement building and create an extremely large, extremely detailed image via a pano shot perhaps.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 29, 2018, 01:52:48 pm
... I do know i'd like to do this one time with a large multistorey apartement building and create an extremely large, extremely detailed image via a pano shot perhaps.

Seems that Clarissa Bonet from Chicago beat you to it: ;)

http://www.edelmangallery.com/artists/artists/a-f/clarissa-bonet.html
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 29, 2018, 02:24:12 pm
Seems that Clarissa Bonet from Chicago beat you to it: ;)

http://www.edelmangallery.com/artists/artists/a-f/clarissa-bonet.html

I was thinking more along the lines of Michael Wolf (http://photomichaelwolf.com/#night/1), but it is in similar vein as yours. Of course, where i live, we don't do skyscrapers. I would probably do a composite of multiple shots so all interiors are visible. Not to pry, but merely to get an impression of atmosphere.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 29, 2018, 02:37:58 pm
A picture a day keeps the... I have ab-so-lutely no idea why i like this. Maybe just "pretty colors". I do know i'd like to do this one time with a large multistorey apartement building and create an extremely large, extremely detailed image via a pano shot perhaps.

I like that Oscar; just a touch of the voyeuristic...

I think you'd have to be up on the roof of Jay Meisel's old bank building (since sold), or follow in the footsteps of one Michael Wolf to get the nice, multi-interest, bird's eye view shot of people-who-don't-use-curtains (maybe some are also ladies who lunch?) which, at a stroke, turns them into exhibitionists, thus a marriage made, if not in heaven, at least up in the skies. Win win.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 30, 2018, 02:31:51 pm
storm
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on October 01, 2018, 07:03:59 am
Shift...



Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on October 01, 2018, 11:49:22 am
(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3070317100-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 01, 2018, 12:53:03 pm
A good one, Rayyan.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 01, 2018, 01:14:43 pm
A good one, Rayyan.

+1

I seem to like this type of rendering/storytelling more and more.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on October 01, 2018, 02:54:47 pm
Shift...

Well seen.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 01, 2018, 04:36:10 pm
Shift...

I thought your stitching software screwed it up ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 02, 2018, 10:19:07 am
A picture a day, because sometimes even this is better that all the gear blatter...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 02, 2018, 10:43:07 am
^^^ I like it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on October 03, 2018, 12:16:14 am
Voted Most Likely.

...interesting portrait. Well done. +1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 03, 2018, 09:36:47 am
A picture a day, because sometimes even this is better that all the gear blatter...


As always, great style.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 03, 2018, 09:37:26 am
Close to home:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 04, 2018, 08:06:31 am
Second in the little group:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 04, 2018, 10:24:00 am
From a recent trip to Greece. Leica M240, 21mm Super-Elmar ASPH. Put me in mind of your second image, Rob.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Wheelbarrow.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 04, 2018, 10:44:29 am
Yep, but I bet mine squeaks even more!

For a while, it was painted the traditional blue to match Pollensa donkey carts (haven't seen a donkey here in years!) and had an inner tray on which we sat flower pots, the entire ensemble movable to the protected area of the terrace should storms threaten. Eventually, the thing became more useful for carrying the shopping from the car park to home, and the display function abandoned...

Heart attacks stopped that - cardio specifically told me not to move barrows - and it has ended up against a hedge, serving as winter home for lizards and whatever else can live beside them safely.

Such is life.

Like your image, by the way.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on October 04, 2018, 12:47:14 pm

Nice one!

Slobodan, opgr; thanks.


A picture a day, because sometimes even this is better that all the gear blatter...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on October 04, 2018, 12:48:55 pm
Lovely colors to bring out the textures, Keith.

From a recent trip to Greece. Leica M240, 21mm Super-Elmar ASPH. Put me in mind of your second image, Rob.
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on October 04, 2018, 12:49:54 pm

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3100521746-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 04, 2018, 01:49:44 pm
Lovely colors to bring out the textures, Keith.

Thanks Rayyan.

I must admit it has the air of a desaturated image but the colour is straight out of camera. A desaturated subject? ;-)

And thanks, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on October 04, 2018, 01:59:10 pm
Rayyan, that is a fascinating photo...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 04, 2018, 03:33:17 pm
+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on October 05, 2018, 12:47:28 am
Untitled
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 05, 2018, 04:37:58 am
^

Positively menacing.

I like it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 05, 2018, 06:56:57 am
Untitled


Great, on many levels.

Was a time I quite fancied having Dixie on the car roof, after the Dukes, to be artsy about it. Never got around to it, mainly because I didn't trust anyone hereabouts not to mess up the car with bad artwork. Of course, one does need the right car, but hey, can't have everything!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 05, 2018, 07:17:56 am

Great, on many levels.

Was a time I quite fancied having Dixie on the car roof, after the Dukes, to be artsy about it. Never got around to it, mainly because I didn't trust anyone hereabouts not to mess up the car with bad artwork. Of course, one does need the right car, but hey, can't have everything!

:-)

Oh, hahaha, that'll be a sight: Ford Fiesta in full Dukes of H coating. Maybe you can find one of them riffleracks and an NRA bumpersticker to make a real statement. ;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 05, 2018, 08:55:54 am
Oh, hahaha, that'll be a sight: Ford Fiesta in full Dukes of H coating. Maybe you can find one of them riffleracks and an NRA bumpersticker to make a real statement. ;-)

No, it was back during my XR3i and then XRi tenure. No racks: poor aerodynamics.

Recently, sombody has been parking a Mustang - circa '56? - near where I go for lunch. It is painted black (Stones fan?) but a black that resembles the rubber underseal paint that you could buy in the '50s to paint onto the bottom of your cars, cars that often left the factory with no undersealing at all. My '59 Ford Popular was one such. Maybe that's why the metal was thicker than in today's vehicles?

My considered theory is that the owner found it, covered it in this waterproof gunge in the hope that it will hold back any new rust, and that when he wins the lottery he will be able to afford to get it properly restored. It is proud holder of its valid ITV certificate, so it works!

Rob

P.S.
Loved Pirelli P6 rubber.

P.P.S.
The same US plate on the current Fiesta, but it's been removed. After driving all over the continent wearing this plate, with different versions of copy, followed by police, guardia civil, the army and God knows who else, a couple of years ago a local cop on a scooter pulled me over and told me it was illegal, and could be mistaken for a number plate. I pointed out the obvious, that is was a website, but by then the harm was done: he felt an idiot and couldn't back off. So yeah, if you want macho cops not bothered with inconsequentials, give them Harleys.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 05, 2018, 09:30:49 am
Maybe it should have read:

If you can read this, you're close enough...
for my .44 magnum

That black perhaps is that new radar repelling stuff more commonly found on military aircraft, it's all the rage these days though i'm not sure how effective it is against radarguns.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 05, 2018, 02:22:50 pm
Maybe it should have read:

If you can read this, you're close enough...
for my .44 magnum

That black perhaps is that new radar repelling stuff more commonly found on military aircraft, it's all the rage these days though i'm not sure how effective it is against radarguns.

There was a guy down the road who owned a Winnebago. In the window was a printed sign: Home Security by Smith & Wesson. I thought that was cool; much better than getting robbed or worse on your own property. In some countries - no fingers pointed; no politics - you will get arrested for hurting a naughty intruder. I suppose it would only work if the "lost" person was an anglophone and had some slight knowledge of arms manufacturers.

I sometimes think of finding a large scorpion and putting it into an old bumbag, wearing it rather carelessly, and wandering around the local market looking frail and unaware; nice surprise-in-waiting for some long-fingered mother.

My heart is brimming with good, altruistic intentions.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 05, 2018, 03:24:59 pm
... Was a time I quite fancied having Dixie on the car roof, after the Dukes, to be artsy about it...

Another way to display a flag on a car:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 05, 2018, 04:57:31 pm
Recently, sombody has been parking a Mustang - circa '56? - near where I go for lunch.

The Mustang is a Swingin' '60s creation through & through!

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 05, 2018, 08:05:53 pm
Found this from many years ago
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 06, 2018, 03:55:30 am
The Mustang is a Swingin' '60s creation through & through!

-Dave-

Oops! Blame that '59 Coup de Ville for mentally miring me in a decade.

You are absolutely right, of course; I must drink tea instead of coffee from now on.

;-)

P.S.

This is the black, rubbery Mustang in question, straight from the iPad. Using the 'Pad to make a snap is even less comfortable than using the cellphone. You could get run over by traffic because of the concentration it requires just to hold it in place with one hand and press the tit with the other.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Tony Ovens on October 06, 2018, 07:58:41 am
Looks better in red
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaqDQUmKop0
Tony
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 06, 2018, 08:56:20 am
Looks better in red
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaqDQUmKop0
Tony

Except I don't like rag tops. But hey, those Glaswegians get everywhere!

The best open air combination I had was with the X1/9, which had a targa top that one person could take off and place inside the top of the front trunk like a second lid; it left all the space this photographer ever needed. Look inside today's retracting metal tops and you can maybe carry a briefcase in the space they leave.

Colour? Anything but that rubber black! It covers everything, including any chrome. I must take a camera to lunch next week in the hope that it is still parked in the same street, but it wasn't there today. Next to the building in my snap is an auto bodywork shop; perhaps it lives inside that awaiting a slot for TLC, and gets street-parked during working hours to get out of the way of the work.

If my hunch is right, I shall ask the repair shop if they know the year. I still think it's a very early model because there appear to be no air scoops I can see. The seats are a mess.

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 06, 2018, 09:49:13 am
Rob, that “rubber black” is the latest fad in auto styling. It comes in other colors, like dull (matte) silver that my neighbor had on his brand new $100K Mercedes.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 06, 2018, 01:56:04 pm
Rob, that “rubber black” is the latest fad in auto styling. It comes in other colors, like dull (matte) silver that my neighbor had on his brand new $100K Mercedes.


I've seen a Porche Cayenne vaguely like that, but it didn't look as bad as this Mustang does. Even the chrome stuff is covered. I think it looks dreadful. Guess it's just more naked emperors.

Who'd have thought!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 06, 2018, 04:51:07 pm
My late neighbor Virginia (long-time Mustang owner…pretty sure I've mentioned her before) would've had a stroke at the thought of rubberizing her baby. Bright colors and shiny chrome were her jam.  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 06, 2018, 06:02:12 pm
Pic taken for a music site I read and sometimes post at. This is the amp rig I currently use with electric guitars, located in my somewhat cramped rec/storage room. The amp is a repro of a Hiwatt DR504 from the early 1970s. Hiwatts are best known as the amps of choice for Pete Townshend in The Who and David Gilmour both in Pink Floyd and as a solo artist. But they've also been used a lot for studio recording by players who've opted to use other gear onstage. This Hi-Tone repro uses New Old Stock components where possible and is made by folks with expert-level knowledge of Hiwatt circuits.

Hiwatts are known for clean, rich sound and volume. Lotsa volume! This one is officially a 50 watt amp but can put out an easy 60 watts prior to clipping. With NOS Mullard power tubes it can approach 70 watts of output with a crunchy & dynamic overdriven sound. But run at household levels the amp sounds stiff and kinda brittle. It wasn't made for my rec room. So what to do?

This is where the PowerStation gizmo sitting atop the amp head comes in. The PowerStation is a Swiss army knife of guitar amplification. It can boost the volume of a low-power amp via its dual-tube power section and also lower the volume of a powerful amp via its reactive attenuator. And it does both these things while retaining the sonic character of the amp plugged into it. So in my case I can run the Hi-Tone at a house-rattling, neighbor-disturbing, self-deafening level (that is, the amp's sweet spot) and let the PowerStation bring down the volume to something much more friendly. With a second amp (an old Fender Princeton) used as a baffle in front of the Hi-Tone's speaker cabinet, as shown in the pic, I can comfortably stand & play just a few feet in front. Minus the baffle I can play while standing or sitting off-axis ~10 feet away. The amp sounds huge & rich without being overly loud. In my 35+ years of electric guitar playing I've never achieved a better home sound.

The Y cable atop the PowerStation lets me plug into the Hi-Tone's two channels, Normal & Brill (bright), at the same time. I use this to add a bit of zing to darker sounding guitars. On the floor, in front of the amp rig (and out of view in this pic), is an ever-changing set of effects pedals I use to color each guitar's basic character.

(Edit: fixed a typo.)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on October 07, 2018, 04:59:45 am

Bob, Russ..thank you.

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3102282646-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 07, 2018, 09:32:49 am
My late neighbor Virginia (long-time Mustang owner…pretty sure I've mentioned her before) would've had a stroke at the thought of rubberizing her baby. Bright colors and shiny chrome were her jam.  ;)

-Dave-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8skm-l9amTc


If you catch the top of the piano at 3.30 there's a set of flames that would look really cool on the lid of my black Fiesta which, having the non-standard, extended roof spoiler, has the length to carry it off. Sadly, as with the Dixie notion for earlier cars, I have nobody I know who could do it well.

Visual motifs aside, I find it hard to get my eyes off the blonde backing singer every time I watch this video. I think Keith will totally understand. ;-)

Ahhh... Sundays.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 07, 2018, 02:49:41 pm
... I think it looks dreadful...

More of that "rubber black" porn. Not even 1934 Ford got spared the latest fad.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 07, 2018, 07:38:46 pm
Notice how nicely the car and its tires are fashionably coordinated, unlike that one in the background with the passé whitewall tires.   :o
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 08, 2018, 06:31:43 am
The supreme court judge's well-balanced, well informed, erudite philosophy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 08, 2018, 07:11:14 am
More of that "rubber black" porn. Not even 1934 Ford got spared the latest fad.


Ah, but this stuff appears to have a reflective glow that I haven't noticed on the Mustang.

I assume that there is no expectation of having to polish this new surface, so that has to be an energy-saving plus... I wonder if it's smooth, easily washed, or whether it's roughish, trapping grime? Either way, in the unlikely event that I ever need to buy a new car again, it wouldn't be part of my wish-list.

I'd hoped to snap the Mustang today, with a camera, but as it's raining, I won't be going to that town because it requires parking in a glorified field that will negate my recent washing of the car. The rain is okay, as long as the car remains parked at home, because it serves as a final rinse. Isn't nature wonderfully provident?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 08, 2018, 07:34:16 am
The supreme court judge's well-balanced, well informed, erudite philosophy.

Reminds me of the early 60s when, walking behind some people, it became difficult to tell gender if they were not in skirts.

In other words, where are the females in that delightful vote you posted?

I remember a time when life was simple: men were men and women were glad for it. Today, heroes and villains are the new morality with one fatal flaw: the difference depends on the information source.

Rock on; we might as well as not.

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on October 08, 2018, 09:50:09 am

Bob, Russ..thank you gentlemen.

From the same place in Bali...

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3106791573-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on October 08, 2018, 09:57:25 am

Our breakfast table....

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3108236049-5.jpg)

Simple.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 08, 2018, 10:00:12 am
Our breakfast table....

Damn, and my fridge is empty ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 08, 2018, 10:21:12 am
Damn, and my fridge is empty ;)


Apart from milk and some orange juice, I try to keep mine that way: less chance of poisoning myself.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 08, 2018, 10:44:16 am
Speaking of food. Desires on an aftersummer day.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 08, 2018, 11:22:34 am
Speaking of food. Desires on an aftersummer day.
Good catch. Where can I download your mindreader app?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 08, 2018, 12:57:41 pm
Good catch. Where can I download your mindreader app?

You mean the x-rated version?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 08, 2018, 05:15:10 pm
Further proof of the Russian collusion.

Look what a medical examiner in 2012 London is using ;)

P.S. The last time I used that camera was probably 40+ years ago

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 08, 2018, 05:35:12 pm
Some critters from this afternoon's park walk, first one in awhile due to my pal Susan's busy fall schedule and my low-grade but persistent cold.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 08, 2018, 08:30:30 pm
You have some interesting neighbors.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 08, 2018, 10:36:00 pm
P.S. The last time I used that camera was probably 40+ years ago

And now, Zenits will be made by Leica: https://www.dpreview.com/news/9034303849/photokina-2018-hands-on-with-zenit-m (https://www.dpreview.com/news/9034303849/photokina-2018-hands-on-with-zenit-m)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on October 10, 2018, 07:34:51 am

Rob, I heard of the floods in Mallorca, are you okay?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 10, 2018, 09:08:45 am
Rob, I heard of the floods in Mallorca, are you okay?


Hi, and thank you for the concern!

Yes, they happened a few klicks away from my zone, but the thunder storms were amazing to watch.

Part of the problem is because of neglect: there are no real rivers on the island, but we do have torrentes, which are naturally formed waterways that, most of the time, look like dry river beds. Cut by nature through the centuries, these cope very well with the sometimes freak winter cloudbursts, but the hassle arrived with the hand of man in the form of dumped waste, garbage, prams, supermarket trolleys, and the recent few drier years allowing bushes and even trees to grow where no tree or bush should be allowed to root. Consequently, when heavy rain does come, it can't flow cleanly and you'd be forgiven for thinking the island had been taken over by beavers. I think eight people have died, two Brits in a taxi and it's driver gone missing.

Mr T. take note, times they are achanging!

Again, thank you for enquiringly about me.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 10, 2018, 09:16:43 am
The Mustang is a Swingin' '60s creation through & through!

-Dave-

Dave, I stopped by the body shop today on my way to lunch and asked the guy if he knew anything about the Mustang that parks nearby. He said yes, it was his! I then asked if it was '65 or '66 and he laughed and said '66. For some reason, he seemed happy I'd asked.

At least I got the year part right if not the decade! But I definitely did go solo that year: have the paperwork to prove it and keep me accurately tuned into something.

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 10, 2018, 10:43:46 am
Dave, I stopped by the body shop today on my way to lunch and asked the guy if he knew anything about the Mustang that parks nearby. He said yes, it was his! I then asked if it was '65 or '66 and he laughed and said '66. For some reason, he seemed happy I'd asked.

At least I got the year part right if not the decade! But I definitely did go solo that year: have the paperwork to prove it and keep me accurately tuned into something.

:-)

Rob

Ha, but you didn't dare ask about the paint, i presume?

Limbo...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on October 10, 2018, 12:13:18 pm

Hi, and thank you for the concern!

Yes, they happened a few klicks away from my zone, but the thunder storms were amazing to watch.

Part of the problem is because of neglect: there are no real rivers on the island, but we do have torrentes, which are naturally formed waterways that, most of the time, look like dry river beds. Cut by nature through the centuries, these cope very well with the sometimes freak winter cloudbursts, but the hassle arrived with the hand of man in the form of dumped waste, garbage, prams, supermarket trolleys, and the recent few drier years allowing bushes and even trees to grow where no tree or bush should be allowed to root. Consequently, when heavy rain does come, it can't flow cleanly and you'd be forgiven for thinking the island had been taken over by beavers. I think eight people have died, two Brits in a taxi and it's driver gone missing.

Mr T. take note, times they are achanging!

Again, thank you for enquiringly about me.

Rob

 :)

 In Italy, particularly in Southern Italy, Calabria, those dry river beds are called fiumare (fiumara), they are very dangerous.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Vallata_dell%27amendolea.jpg

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiumara_(idrografia)#/media/File:Frascianida.JPG

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 10, 2018, 01:02:18 pm
I remember we had a picnic in one such dry river bed in Corsica. A couple of days later there were mature trees being swept down from the mountains.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 10, 2018, 03:36:28 pm
Ha, but you didn't dare ask about the paint, i presume?

Limbo...


Frankly, I didn't even think about that; I was more concerned with tracking my memory. I agree, though, that I would not have asked about the paintwork if I'd remembered; if I'd remembered and knew the guy I would have, but this was the first time I ever set eyes on him and wouldn't have wanted to lie to him had he asked for an opinion. A bit like dealing with people on the Internet: you feel obliged to be careful because you don't want to hurt people's feelings unless they attack yours first.

The car was not on the street and not in the workshop either; maybe it was being kept at home because of the stormy weather. I, on the other hand, enjoy strong rain (not from the Sahara!) because it helps keep the bird shit off the car, and washes away the salt deposited from the sea winds.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 10, 2018, 04:09:29 pm
Dave, I stopped by the body shop today on my way to lunch and asked the guy if he knew anything about the Mustang that parks nearby. He said yes, it was his! I then asked if it was '65 or '66 and he laughed and said '66. For some reason, he seemed happy I'd asked.

At least I got the year part right if not the decade! But I definitely did go solo that year: have the paperwork to prove it and keep me accurately tuned into something.

:-)

Good job!  ;)  The coolest (IMO) version of the Mustang was made from '64–66. The following version was long popular with hot-rodders, though, and for all I know may still be.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 11, 2018, 11:27:33 pm
Had these guys in my backyard few days ago
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 12, 2018, 11:49:00 pm
orange on orange
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 13, 2018, 03:46:48 am
So, there it is, Rob! I just found your dreamcamera:
https://fstoppers.com/gear/need-medium-format-quality-instant-camera-build-yourself-hasselblad-instax-295583
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 13, 2018, 04:28:32 am
Had the 500C and the 500C/M and, together, they broke my back if I had to use them outwith the studio. Great machines. Had a Polaroid back too, but almost never used it because clients seldom came with me on shoots. Trust...

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 13, 2018, 04:29:55 am
As sop to recent weather; Rainy Day Woman:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 13, 2018, 04:57:13 am
As sop to recent weather; Rainy Day Woman:

Gorgeous!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 13, 2018, 06:43:19 am
Gorgeous!

Thanks, Keith!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 13, 2018, 07:05:49 am
Gorgeous!

Yes!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 13, 2018, 09:07:52 am
As sop to recent weather; Rainy Day Woman:

This being WP, am i allowed to ask: composite?

Not that the answer matters much, it works well.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 13, 2018, 12:43:38 pm
Russ and Oscar: thanks for the positive feedback!

Oscar -depends on what constitutes a composite: male working with female; one idea and then another, but as you say, being WP I'm not allowed to comment futher.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 14, 2018, 02:47:34 pm
A picture a day keeps the heartrate okay.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 14, 2018, 02:49:31 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 14, 2018, 03:09:37 pm
A picture a day keeps the heartrate okay.


As ever, I like your sense of imagery.

Your medical advice may not be jest: having made a lot fewer pics this summer (unwilling to put my actinic keratosis to further risk), I am waiting for the thrill of winter to motivate me. But, with less creative impetus circulating within my being, there is no doubt that the spirit slumps more than a little bit. The connection between spirit and physical seems beyond question.

:-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 16, 2018, 10:17:29 am
A picture a day... no, i don't know about the heartrate with this one!?

Femme Nue
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3m
Post by: Rob C on October 16, 2018, 05:12:06 pm
One could go mad trying to figure (no pun etc.) it out!

More ambiguity than street street.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 16, 2018, 05:26:41 pm
My first thought was Snoopy on two legs.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 17, 2018, 03:19:46 am
My first thought was Snoopy on two legs.  :D

-Dave-


Hahaha, for god's sake, show some respect! Now i have to try and unsee that!

;-)  ;-)  ;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3m
Post by: 32BT on October 17, 2018, 03:23:00 am
One could go mad trying to figure (no pun etc.) it out!

More ambiguity than street street.

:-)

Rob, you will actually like this. Look up "Lena testimage" and try to find the original.

The title is supposed to allude to Picasso, if that helps any.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3m
Post by: Rob C on October 17, 2018, 05:03:46 am
Rob, you will actually like this. Look up "Lena testimage" and try to find the original.

The title is supposed to allude to Picasso, if that helps any.


Thanks for your link, Oscar.

I'd never heard of the use of the picture like that; nice to discover new things at this late stage!

I went on to read the Wiki story about it, and was amazed to find that there are people in the sciences that see it, the use of the picture for scientific purposes, as degrading to women! It's nothing but a classy portrait, for God's sake!

It strikes me that those with that mindset are actually - and I mean this sincerely - mentally ill. They suffer from such a dose of indoctrination (most probably from universities; strange, the connection between high education and aberrations) that their thinking has become tainted with a new version of the old religious concept of original sin. How much deep thought does it take to accept that there are two genders in humans, and that there is such a thing as beauty as there is also of ugliness? If one is going to use an example of a human for an experiment, then why should the beautiful one be intentionally snubbed in favour of the ugly sister (or brother)? If such thinking would not be perverse, then nothing ever will be.

This has really become a curse of the post-60s era; I remember perfectly well the years before all of this nonsense developed in the US campus arena, and spread into print via those students taking their place in the world and getting literary employment. Not only has it scarred the USA and spread its tentacles way beyond the literary but also into everyday life and, sadly, politics, but it has also influenced life in the UK. I can remember chats with my two granddaughters - as well as with my own daughter on this line of faux, diverted feminism, and from a rabid subscribing to it, they have apparently grown up and adopted a far more sensible view on the world and its workings. They appear to have taken a delight in being women, are perfectly aware of their power and have no need to scream from the rooftops about gender equality. My late wife had, all her life, never shown the slightest doubts about her own power as woman. She was well-educated, a bookworm; by inclination a mathematician as well as a chemist, yet totally devoted to family and providing the best of home life that anyone could dream of enjoying. The shrill voices that women have to be copies of men to ammount to a hill of beans is not even as relatively benign as a siren's song: it's a pile of deadly, harmony-destroying crap.

The way to happines is to be what you are, not what some popular cultural belief wants to turn you into being. Creating doubt and self-loathing in people is not a good idea; the advent of social media and its grip on the childen of today is awful. I wonder if the time will arrive when people come to their senses and all of these time-wasting, personality-destroying sites will be closed down, kids freed to be kids and not cry themselves to sleep because they have not been cursed with a massively fat ass...?

Thing is, the young of today do not have the experience available to them of the past; they have no idea of the pleasures of a simple life where your friends and foes were people you really knew. Life was real, not something lived apart and on a screen, where fantasy and PS'd bodies are the goals in life, where doctors are willing to change healthy bodies into false ones. So much for medical ethics.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 17, 2018, 01:47:53 pm

Hahaha, for god's sake, show some respect! Now i have to try and unsee that!

;-)  ;-)  ;-)
If it helps, my first impressions were that I was seeing a feminine form. I think it's pretty good as an abstract.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on October 17, 2018, 03:15:54 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 17, 2018, 03:49:47 pm
Nice, Bill.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: fdisilvestro on October 20, 2018, 05:25:49 am
Construction passage, Melbourne
LR Mobile on iPhone

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 20, 2018, 01:44:41 pm
Construction passage, Melbourne
LR Mobile on iPhone


Yes!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 20, 2018, 01:45:50 pm
Bottom lines:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Dahlmann on October 20, 2018, 10:26:44 pm
Taken with my Chamonix 4x5
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181021/cd9e350691f8fbddaf2eab91b375caff.jpg)

Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 21, 2018, 05:40:20 pm
From today's postprandial; exercising the D700:



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 22, 2018, 02:35:31 pm
Country cousins:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 22, 2018, 03:37:22 pm
A picture a day, 'tis after all luminous landscape...

The hump to the right is interesting, it might be a tumulus.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 22, 2018, 04:07:12 pm
This particular spot, which looks like an ordinary patch of forest floor, is actually riddled with Tumuli.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 22, 2018, 04:20:58 pm
This particular spot, which looks like an ordinary patch of forest floor, is actually riddled with Tumuli.


Ancient or Mafia, or WW2?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 22, 2018, 04:31:46 pm

Ancient or Mafia, or WW2?

Rob

Hahahaha, ambiguity in a landscape, hey?

I wish i could make it more exhilarating, but that would be
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 23, 2018, 11:38:00 am
A picture a day, keeps one young at heart...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 23, 2018, 02:07:00 pm
Young at heart maybe, but sitting at a computer negates the walkabout that nets the shot:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 24, 2018, 02:53:40 am
Young at heart maybe, but sitting at a computer negates the walkabout that nets the shot:

Which proofs yet again the wisdom of getting it right SooC.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 24, 2018, 03:54:28 am
Which proofs yet again the wisdom of getting it right SooC.

Getting it right SooC means it comes out pretty flat, has little to no character you can call your own. You wouldn't expect a painter to squeeze the paint out of the tube and not mix it a little bit with some of this and even, at times, of that...

Actually, now that I think about it, this proves that the wet darkroom was far heathier a place than the lightroom (minor key "l") because in the dark one, you spent most of your time on your feet, walking from enlarger to wet bench, standing flipping prints over and about, and dancing to Radio Caroline (on 199). The digital place gives you DVT and a spreading, flat and floppy ass which is bad if you wear jeans.

God, in his wisdom, invented chemicals.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 24, 2018, 04:10:19 am
I think god and his (her) counterpart are actually playing a creatonist game. It was really the devil who invented chemicals, then it was god who invented a really large pile of desertsand to cover up that mistake, then the devil invented the dollar, god invented the working man, the devil topped it with bankers, god decided on crowdsourcing called democracy, the devil had an easy one creating politicians, then god created mobility starting with horse and cart, at which point the devil invented deficit.

I think god is contemplating forfeiting this particular run.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 24, 2018, 04:30:27 am
As neither of us is probably working on Tulsa Time, I can only marvel at your verbal and mental creativity this early in the morning.

On the other hand, my own brain has coped with the 9a.m. return of the workmen who replaced the lobby entrance door system some months ago, fitted the wrong snib in the receiving part of the lock so that it wouldn't even hold closed on the latch, and then, more months later (or closer to now, depending on your viewpoint) returned to fix that only to break a new glass side-panel they had earlier installed. Today, they replace that panel and sealed everything tight with silicon and, I hope, that's the last we need see of them all!

I'm not sure whether to thank God it's over (I hope!), or to curse the devil that made us select their tender for the job.

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 24, 2018, 09:54:59 am
Next time you call for the workers, be sure to ask them whether they work for God or for Satan.
Of course, you'd better also ask them whether they come from Crete, since, as we know, all Cretans are liars...   ???
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 24, 2018, 11:11:18 am
Next time you call for the workers, be sure to ask them whether they work for God or for Satan.
Of course, you'd better also ask them whether they come from Crete, since, as we know, all Cretans are liars...   ???


That's just what I'll do, Eric; they already think me a bit odd compared with the other Brits with whom it's their lot to engage, so this fresh level of British Inquisition will go down super well! It may also cast a new light for them upon Brexit...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 24, 2018, 03:43:12 pm
Just for the exercise and doctor-distance, as Oscar would say:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 24, 2018, 04:18:34 pm
Just for the exercise and doctor-distance, as Oscar would say:

OMG, i sooo want this to be the coverpicture for my upcoming book titled "the apocalyps of species". Considering the title we won't have to negotiate copyright fees, or, if it brings you greater peace of mind, i'll offer you a 7 figure number on a leasecontract.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 24, 2018, 05:16:20 pm
OMG, i sooo want this to be the coverpicture for my upcoming book titled "the apocalyps of species". Considering the title we won't have to negotiate copyright fees, or, if it brings you greater peace of mind, i'll offer you a 7 figure number on a leasecontract.

Make it an eight figures number and we can even extend that lease by a century or two. Deal?

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 24, 2018, 09:28:57 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 25, 2018, 07:07:46 am
Make it an eight figures number and we can even extend that lease by a century or two. Deal?

:-)

Ah, you're anticipating that humans will touch the genepool successfully, despite what your picture seems to suggest, and manage to extend life by a century or two. Don't worry, we're screwed either way: imagine living for 2 centuries lamenting the 15 minutes of fame we all experience between 20 to 35. Because science always seems to solve half the equation. They'll be able to extend life, yet society still cares didly squat about anything older than the aforementioned agegroup. If science wants to do society a favor, then perhaps they should genetically shorten our lives. Imagine how many problems that would solve...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 25, 2018, 10:42:29 am
Signals from the subconscious
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 25, 2018, 12:41:27 pm
Ah, you're anticipating that humans will touch the genepool successfully, despite what your picture seems to suggest, and manage to extend life by a century or two. Don't worry, we're screwed either way: imagine living for 2 centuries lamenting the 15 minutes of fame we all experience between 20 to 35. Because science always seems to solve half the equation. They'll be able to extend life, yet society still cares didly squat about anything older than the aforementioned agegroup. If science wants to do society a favor, then perhaps they should genetically shorten our lives. Imagine how many problems that would solve...

No, you misunderstood: I extended the time because it wouldn't make any difference - we'd all be long gone anyway. But for that fifteen minutes left, that extra decimal space would definitely let me feel richer!

Twenty to thirty-five is usually a free female problem; we gentlemen can get an extension if we make a lot of money first. I am not going to vote for genetically shortened lives, but neither do I want to end up as a fossil and have to have someone feed me and take me to the toilet. That is a fate worse than death.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 25, 2018, 01:46:05 pm
Smouldering. Bundi, India.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Smouldering.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 25, 2018, 03:42:46 pm
Smouldering has good colour sense, so she has; but then dark skin can take all sorts of strong - as well as muted - colours that would turn a white person into a clashing nightmare.

One retrogressive thing that your pictures show me is this: when I left there in '53, there were far fewer ladies wearing blouses; the way I remember it is that the wealthy people did wear them, of course, but not the rest so much. What a lost paradise. Or, my imagination may simply be keeping the best foremost whilst I can still remember it.

On the other hand, perhaps it's geography: my time was spent in the south...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 25, 2018, 04:28:21 pm
If science wants to do society a favor, then perhaps they should genetically shorten our lives. Imagine how many problems that would solve...

Or, with less effort perhaps, just let our crazies set up their utopias. That should turn 30 into the new 80 quickly enough!

My high school friend Dale upon the two of us seeing the film Logan's Run when it came out: "That's probably not a bad idea!" (In the future world depicted by the film, it's 30 & out, baby. But there's fun to be had with Jenny Agutter while you're still in your 20s!)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 26, 2018, 08:58:03 am
Oscar, where today's picture? Have you fallen in love with your doctor?

I'm still fighting to retain my virginity, but here's a shot taken from the second row:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 26, 2018, 02:24:04 pm
Oscar, where today's picture? Have you fallen in love with your doctor?

I'm still fighting to retain my virginity, but here's a shot taken from the second row:

Why is it that the first row always seats the longest individuals? Bunch of cheerleaders. Might be too much caffeine, though.

I must admit i have a female doctor. "Had" actually, since it's been perhaps a decade since i last saw her and i have moved since, improving the doctor-distance in my favor, so to speak. Mind you, considering what she knows about me, i don't think it makes much sense falling in love. I doubt she'll return that favor.

Fortunately, it allows me to skip the daily chore of picturetaking every once in a while which is useful weatherwise today. I had some crappy stuff lined up but they are teetering on the edge of reasonable light. Need to do some serious dodging and burning to see if it's salvageable.

Here's an example. It appears the lack of proper lighting also results in lack of proper binding of elements. Lack of binding = lack of story. (Attempting to convey powerful micro intimacy in a larger context.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 26, 2018, 02:35:30 pm
The thing is, they always put Long Tall Sally out there in front. Just as well no hats!

...........

Silly boy! Nothing to do with the light: it's that damned wad of cheewing gum you have stuck on the front of your filter!

If you were not using that Leica M3 you might have noticed it; even my first Exakta would have prevented such embarrassment!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 26, 2018, 03:27:37 pm
The thing is, they always put Long Tall Sally out there in front. Just as well no hats!

...........

Silly boy! Nothing to do with the light: it's that damned wad of cheewing gum you have stuck on the front of your filter!

If you were not using that Leica M3 you might have noticed it; even my first Exakta would have prevented such embarrassment!

:-)

Yes, the downside of horribly expensive rangefinders. That must be why they introduced the latest D. No direct feedback whatsoever. Feedback? I thought chewinggum held no nutritional value. What do i know?

Speaking of chewinggum, perhaps it helps if i told you this town is home to a special foreign stop that the British Superbikes tour makes during the season.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 26, 2018, 04:19:16 pm
Yes, the downside of horribly expensive rangefinders. That must be why they introduced the latest D. No direct feedback whatsoever. Feedback? I thought chewinggum held no nutritional value. What do i know?

Speaking of chewinggum, perhaps it helps if i told you this town is home to a special foreign stop that the British Superbikes tour makes during the season.


This could be sticky: the section about one's rides, here in LuLa, is perhaps more to do with bikes?

The more I use this iPad, the more strange it gets. I go into Preview to see what I've written, and sometimes I wonder where the words come from: often, I have no idea what the thing has tried to second-guess me about; at times, people's names appear from nowhere. It's quite alarming, and has forced me, out of fear, into checking everything several times. The apple's revenge, no doubt.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 27, 2018, 06:18:39 am
Rob, you have to go deep into settings -> general -> keyboard -> autocorrection and switch that off. You can still get correction suggestions, it just won't do the substitution any longer.

Or perhaps your language skills fail the average. One more upside to fading eyesight and deteriorating cerebral acuity. It will eventually match.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 27, 2018, 06:38:52 am
Rob, you have to go deep into settings -> general -> keyboard -> autocorrection and switch that off. You can still get correction suggestions, it just won't do the substitution any longer.

Or perhaps your language skills fail the average. One more upside to fading eyesight and deteriorating cerebral acuity. It will eventually match.


As the man said: always look on the bright side!

It's a beautiful day today; there's a delightful drizzle that will probably wash the windscreen, and I have already put the 24mm (don't have a 21mm) onto the FF and, after lunch, I look forward to finding some empty bar tables and tilted chairs covered in sweet drops!

All of the above is a substitute: I really want to be Jeanloup Sieff at the Café de Flore, but have to be me in Puerto Pollensa instead.

;-)

P.S.

It is now after lunch, and the drizzle gave way to storm, and so today I have not left the safety of my pad. No sense in getting soaked, even if my brolly would have given a nice heavenly touch to the top of the frame; another substitute - this time for Leiter's shop awnings! Damn!

But tomorrow... Imagine having to do this for a living!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 27, 2018, 01:44:25 pm
That's why you need crap in the waiting/todo list. I don't like posting crap, because, well, you know, facebook-reality: "i never have a bad hair day". Considering i have no hair left to go bad, it is actual reality, but nm.

Here's another one that just didn't make the cut, but at least it keeps us busy.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 27, 2018, 03:49:15 pm
That's why you need crap in the waiting/todo list. I don't like posting crap, because, well, you know, facebook-reality: "i never have a bad hair day". Considering i have no hair left to go bad, it is actual reality, but nm.

Here's another one that just didn't make the cut, but at least it keeps us busy.


Having little to no hair makes you cool - on a hot day indoors. Maybe that's why the couch gets more attractive... In winter, it makes you so cool you need a woolly hat. Trouble is, mine keeps riding up and I end up looking like a friggin' pixie. The hat, I mean; I leave the couch at home.

On the topic of seconds: I do have a few of my own, and after a couple of months they offer a new perspective I missed first time around. As I think I remember saying before, something makes you take that shot - there has to be life there just under the skin.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 27, 2018, 03:57:46 pm
Rob, you have to go deep into settings -> general -> keyboard -> autocorrection and switch that off. You can still get correction suggestions, it just won't do the substitution any longer.

Or perhaps your language skills fail the average. One more upside to fading eyesight and deteriorating cerebral acuity. It will eventually match.


Thanks for the iPad info. I have reset it to a normal, civilized state of function where I can make my own mistakes at last!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 28, 2018, 04:38:39 am
An on-the-rack solution, then, designed for rainy day usage.

A hangdog expression, one could say:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 28, 2018, 05:09:05 am
An on-the-rack solution, then, designed for rainy day usage.

A hangdog expression, one could say:

It's tempting to suggest you call it "skeleton", where you really want a beautiful model inside the woven cloth for extra impact but end up with a coathanger instead. Since this is wp after all, i'm not going to, but i have it on good authority that halloween is coming up.

Hangdog, zombies, oh, horror...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 28, 2018, 06:57:58 am
It's tempting to suggest you call it "skeleton", where you really want a beautiful model inside the woven cloth for extra impact but end up with a coathanger instead. Since this is wp after all, i'm not going to, but i have it on good authority that halloween is coming up.

Hangdog, zombies, oh, horror...


What you may be suggesting, then, is that this image goes beyond the literal and touches upon the symbolic, a genuine cri de coeur for the missing flesh, the gentle touch of Venus on a waterbed behind a mosquito net? As long as the water is warmer than is Mallorca today, it could be an interesting proposition to ponder, even if all the props are missing.

My adventures with the spectral are limited, though I have had a window encounter with the musical branch. Maybe they were playing my song, because there sure is a guy who looks a lot like me (as Bobbie Gentry almost said in her Ode) hangin' out in that scene.

He's definitely using the D200 because it's the body that has the thin, genuine Nikon strap from the F.

Dangerous days.

Rob


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 28, 2018, 07:40:27 am
Better be careful who you put in front of that capturedevice, apparently the upcoming "festivities" are associated with harvest time.

Might as well add my contribution, to save me another trip to the doctor's. Weather looks good but cold, so might get some actual cameratime in. Hopefully stabilisation works as advertised.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 28, 2018, 10:57:06 am
Better be careful who you put in front of that capturedevice, apparently the upcoming "festivities" are associated with harvest time.

Might as well add my contribution, to save me another trip to the doctor's. Weather looks good but cold, so might get some actual cameratime in. Hopefully stabilisation works as advertised.

It does, it does! It's caught all of the flies circulating around the compass points!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 29, 2018, 03:25:52 pm
If this fell on my foot, a lady doctor is the first person I'd try to find.
It would be a bit like being a fish - hooked - out of water.



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 29, 2018, 06:07:08 pm
If this fell on my foot, a lady doctor is the first person I'd try to find.
It would be a bit like being a fish - hooked - out of water.

Perhaps you're the son of a son of a sailor and therefore, not owning that boat that intuition told you to buy, you look like that anyway. You've obviously been roaming the harbor again and this image is merely another example i suppose of: "That which we see is not made of that which we see, but of that which we are."

My conclusion then, if it wasn't for wp and the fact that i'm not your therapist, is that deep down inside you really want to be hooked like that to a boat which - being white - is likely a metaphor for the doctor with whom you possibly have some kind of freudian crush .

Like i said: i'm not your therapist.

PS. You might of course comment gallantly on her looks in uniform and casually suggest a photoreportage of a doctor in action which you could market quite easily on the basis of portraying "gender equality". Whether that flies though depends heavily on both the action portrayed as well as the uniform worn.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 29, 2018, 06:36:38 pm
Perhaps you're the son of a son of a sailor and therefore, not owning that boat that intuition told you to buy, you look like that anyway. You've obviously been roaming the harbor again and this image is merely another example i suppose of: "That which we see is not made of that which we see, but of that which we are."

My conclusion then, if it wasn't for wp and the fact that i'm not your therapist, is that deep down inside you really want to be hooked like that to a boat which - being white - is likely a metaphor for the doctor with whom you possibly have some kind of freudian crush .

Like i said: i'm not your therapist.

PS. You might of course comment gallantly on her looks in uniform and casually suggest a photoreportage of a doctor in action which you could market quite easily on the basis of portraying "gender equality". Whether that flies though depends heavily on both the action portrayed as well as the uniform worn.


That's spooky. There was a boat owner very, very close to me. Worse, I am rather attached to Sarah M, so her words, though just a quotation she made, fit nicely into your diagnosis.

However, the lady doctor I may not see again: she's the 40-something dermatologist who, for no reason I can think of, blew me a kiss as I left her consulting room. It certainly made my day, and I had the presence of mind to blow one back before I closed the door; then I took fright and wondered if she was just being kind because she'd seen something she didn't want to tell me about at my age since it might not matter anymore... I may not see her again because, so far, I've seen three different ones, but her twice.

Which reminds me of a dead client: if she offered me an apple or a pear, and I took the apple, she'd have asked me what was wrong with the pear. Maybe I resemble her, too.

I think I'll stop analysis forthwith!

That said, the hook, observed small, and from a certain frame of mind, reminds me of a 40s bra seen from the wearer's perspective or, alternatively and more likely, from below. No, never worn one.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 30, 2018, 11:51:34 pm
It's that time of year again.

(From my lanai I can see part of the same view captured by the webcam at KonaWeb (http://www.konaweb.com), just across the street from my hotel. I've been giving it a look daily since mid-2016. If interested scroll down to the bottom of the KonaWeb page and you'll see it. It's amusing to refresh the view, then look over at the same spot and see the same cars or people as on my screen.  :D )

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 31, 2018, 07:11:00 am
To attract, or not to attract - doctors:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 31, 2018, 08:17:13 am
That's a classic, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 31, 2018, 09:29:04 am
That's a classic, Rob.


Thank you, Russ, but the kudos really belong to the shop owner who set it all up. I suppose it's the "hand of man (or woman)" in colour.

As with your own tastes, I find things related to mankind the most interesting to shoot. BobDavid does the same thing too - play with the tastes of people and their constructs.

Truth is, photography is a life-saving therapy at our age; it keeps terminal boredom at arm's length. I think it was boredom that, at around 93, made my mother call it a day. I'd be surprised if I matched her score, and not entirely sure that the finance/time equation would make that a good idea, but as long as I can afford to keep clicking...

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 31, 2018, 10:52:28 am
You see, i've said it before but me thinks wp is a more sophisticated form of photochainchallenge effortlessly moving from halloween to spirits.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 31, 2018, 12:13:16 pm
rest
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on October 31, 2018, 02:08:36 pm
Distilled
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 31, 2018, 03:24:37 pm
Distilled

Nice; if I were in Scotland I'd try to offer you one on me!

However, as I'm not and can't, I can offer you instead some doc-evading news: I took my ass back to the abandoned power station this afternoon and found a couple of new angles. Once I get into them which, strangely, I don't feel like doing right now, I'll post 'em...

Of course WP is more sophisticated: it does it by stealth.

;-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on October 31, 2018, 11:02:53 pm
The Pride Of America, with Captain Zodiac's expeditionary crew heading ashore.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 01, 2018, 03:34:21 am
A view from my lanai (attached pic #1) and a view of (among other things) my lanai (pic #2). The yellow circle in each pic shows the location from which I took the other pic.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 01, 2018, 03:52:54 am
The Pride Of America, with Captain Zodiac's expeditionary crew heading ashore.  :)

-Dave-

Considering the submarine drugstrafficking obv

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 01, 2018, 03:56:03 am
A view from my lanai (attached pic #1) and a view of (among other things) my lanai (pic #2). The yellow circle in each pic shows the location from which I took the other pic.  :D

-Dave-

Covertly overseeing the aforementioned operation...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 01, 2018, 05:02:21 am
Just 10a.m. and another snap posted!

Dedication, baby, and in capitalist mood - until I look at my own bank numbers.

:-(



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 01, 2018, 05:09:56 am
Two architectural shots from Nicosia, Cyprus. I remain intrigued by the unusual side walls of that building.

The whole building on iPhone Max, the other one with Canon 6D and 70-200/4:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 01, 2018, 06:18:22 am
Just 10a.m. and another snap posted!

Dedication, baby, and in capitalist mood - until I look at my own bank numbers.

:-(

Yes, bank numbers, that would explain the distinctive mocking clown's face i see in the first half of that Rorschach test. Interesting divide then between the haves and have-naughts, or have-nots depending on how much you do have.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 01, 2018, 07:25:47 am
Two architectural shots from Nicosia, Cyprus. I remain intrigued by the unusual side walls of that building.

The whole building on iPhone Max, the other one with Canon 6D and 70-200/4:

Might be natural heat protection.

What made you decide on the iPhone? Did you just need a new phone? Or did you specifically chose it for its camera capabilities?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 01, 2018, 08:07:29 am
Might be natural heat protection.

What made you decide on the iPhone? Did you just need a new phone? Or did you specifically chose it for its camera capabilities?

Souvenirs of 1973.

Also, Mallorcan-modern decoration of the 50s. Bad news travels.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 01, 2018, 09:19:56 am
... What made you decide on the iPhone? Did you just need a new phone? Or did you specifically chose it for its camera capabilities?

Ive been with iPhones since model 1. Hate to jump ship every time competitors leapfrog each other. A friend gave me an Android while in Cyprus and I hate it. Not because it is inferior (it is a rather old model, so it is, but I am sure the latest generation is just as capable), but because it is different. I hate to spend time relearning something that I see as an appliance, a toaster of a kind. I use it, and devote to it just enough attention to do what I need it to do, and that’s it.

Having said that, I did get the Max for its camera advances. My prior model was an iPhone 7s and there was nothing wrong with it, but knowing this trip was coming, I wanted something more advanced photographically. So far, it’s been a pure pleasure. As I described in my Belgrade post in another thread, I used it for 90% of shots on this trip. Besides, as also mentioned there, it brings me back to my youth, when having 50mm and 28mm lenses was everything one could wish for.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 01, 2018, 12:45:09 pm
Take, for example, this shot - 2.5 seconds hand-held, at 2000 ISO (iPhone Max):
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 01, 2018, 01:16:02 pm
Ive been with iPhones since model 1. Hate to jump ship every time competitors leapfrog each other. A friend gave me an Android while in Cyprus and I hate it. Not because it is inferior (it is a rather old model, so it is, but I am sure the latest generation is just as capable), but because it is different. I hate to spend time relearning something that I see as an appliance, a toaster of a kind. I use it, and devote to it just enough attention to do what I need it to do, and that’s it.

Having said that, I did get the Max for its camera advances. My prior model was an iPhone 7s and there was nothing wrong with it, but knowing this trip was coming, I wanted something more advanced photographically. So far, it’s been a pure pleasure. As I described in my Belgrade post in another thread, I used it for 90% of shots on this trip. Besides, as also mentions there, it brings me back to my youth, when having 50mm and 28mm lenses was everything one could wish for.

I get it, the use of the phone that is because I have a Samsung S8+ and have no desire to get an iPhone (I could easily switch though as I have an iPad too).
It's so much more convenient to just use the phone and many times the quality is good enough. The iPhone max and the similar phones with an additional camera (or the Pixel 3) are probably even better.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 01, 2018, 02:33:34 pm
I too have been using a recent iPhone (8+) this year while travelling, though also a Panasonic GX8 for wider or narrower coverage. The two lanai-centric pics above are from the iPhone, the first with the wider lens (~28mm "equivalent") and the second with the longer one (~56mm equiv.). Raw images in most cases via the ProCamera app.

Attached pic (captured in JPEG due to user error) via iPhone wide lens, from up in the air heading west from Seattle out over the Pacific.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 01, 2018, 02:39:54 pm
Covertly overseeing the aforementioned operation...

Cover blown…drat! Does this mean I have to leave now?  ;)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 01, 2018, 02:45:07 pm
This morning's post-sunrise long lens view from my lanai. GX8, 100–300mm at 120mm (240mm "equiv").

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 01, 2018, 04:40:00 pm
cloudy day today
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 01, 2018, 10:09:59 pm
How high the Moon! iPhone, portrait lens.

(Works better as a 4x5, I think (pic #2).)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 02, 2018, 04:42:05 am
From the power station:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 02, 2018, 09:50:17 am
on the road
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 02, 2018, 11:04:33 am
“Light My Way” - a lamp store in a Turkish bazaar, Nicosia, Cyprus:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 02, 2018, 02:33:21 pm
In consideration of the doctor...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 02, 2018, 02:43:37 pm
I hope it also works against therapists, i'd probably be diagnosed with some kind of triangle fetish but i swear it was purely coincidental.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 02, 2018, 02:44:47 pm
Or maybe not...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 02, 2018, 03:14:20 pm
Or maybe not...


I wasn't going to, but then I saw this (your shot above), and thought about the follow my leader proclivity that you diagnosed deep within the veins of this thread too:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 02, 2018, 03:15:56 pm
In consideration of the doctor...

Delightful equilibrium: I'm sorry, but you appear to be quite sane.

Oh well...

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 02, 2018, 06:30:40 pm

I wasn't going to, but then I saw this (your shot above), and thought about the follow my leader proclivity that you diagnosed deep within the veins of this thread too:

Rob, we don't follow, we extend.

You see, my second image reminds me of a monk, my third image of a keyboard, and then you post Aztec sax. See where this is going? WP is not a plain old photochainchallenge. WP is a sophisticated photojamsession producing a pure and unadulterated improvised jazz intermezzo for eclectic connaisseurs. I need to stop myself before i start spewing another one of my artist statements which, considering the act, might be confused for a health issue that requires attention.

Like the Monk would say: play on people.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 02, 2018, 10:32:18 pm
In consideration of the doctor...

Doctor who?

 :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 02, 2018, 11:46:26 pm
Nothing special. Just thought I would show a juxtaposition of the natural world with some man-made power line cables in a forested area. I found the natural and man-made verticals especially interesting.

JR

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 03, 2018, 05:57:55 am
Bowing to the inevitable, and trying to maintain a steady four beats to the bar, a nod then, to Stackolee.

On the other hand, perhaps it would be best to regard this as four bars to the beat, thus echoing the long, sloooow death march of this place.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 03, 2018, 01:59:56 pm
Mid-afternoon yesterday. The current weather here reminds me of Singapore, though less humid. And the downpour you might expect from low, thick, dark clouds never comes. We get a little mist and a few small drops, if that.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3.
Post by: Rob C on November 04, 2018, 06:21:56 am
Afternoon ramble through delightfully post-seasonal streets!

Art lesson for the day:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 04, 2018, 09:24:14 am
Love it!
ML really rocks!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 04, 2018, 11:54:17 am
Love it!
ML really rocks!

Very, and she sure knows how to take the spotlight, no?

Xtra doctordistancemiles this one. Contrary to other programs, these miles will always remain un(a)voidable miles.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 05, 2018, 04:13:10 am
I think she's auditioning for the Scottish Widows adverts. Creepy name for an insurance company, don't you think?

But then, I guess it's for when the doctors and nurses fail.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 05, 2018, 04:17:49 am
This one for when almost everything else fails:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on November 05, 2018, 02:40:18 pm
This one for when almost everything else fails:

It took a while to load, for some reason; while I waited, I was expecting a pub to appear.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 05, 2018, 02:53:43 pm
It took a while to load, for some reason; while I waited, I was expecting a pub to appear.

Jeremy


Truth to tell, both options can bring as much further misfortune as each other: lotteries are fine whilst you can still afford to lose the "investment" in that rosy future, but pubs can suck you in too, perhaps in the hope somebody will buy you a drink before you squirrel back out!

I suppose women would score better going the pub route... one reason for them not to back feminism, which would eventually expose them to having to buy the stuff too, rather than just accepting and enjoying it.

The song It wasn't God who made Honky Tonk Angels comes to mind straight away.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 05, 2018, 06:18:20 pm
Something a little more drab and sombre. From the Seniors Home I visit.

JR

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 05, 2018, 06:31:07 pm
Drab and sombre, maybe, but definitely beautifully composed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 05, 2018, 09:13:12 pm
The telephone is(n't) ringin'…

-Dave-

(AKA Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 05, 2018, 09:49:39 pm
Pic #1 — It isn't all sunshine, hammocks and Mai Tais. Less than 30 minutes ago.

Pic #2 — And there was this, yesterday. They're real…believe it.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 05, 2018, 10:09:19 pm
Drab and sombre, maybe, but definitely beautifully composed.
Thanks Eric. It was shot with my handy dandy cell camera. I resisted buying it for so long. But when the phone booth took my money, demanded my credit card and left me in the lurch with nothing but dirt and spider webs, that's when I had enough. The new cameras are quite good.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 06, 2018, 12:41:27 am
After the storm (previous post…we only got a handful of light drops down here on the coast) this happened. Brilliant setting sun plus moisture-laden air. I got greedy and hoped for a full double rainbow, but it didn't pan out.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 07, 2018, 12:53:42 pm
Pretty sky this morning, pre-dawn, after lotsa rain (for Kona) last evening. Sprinkled just hard enough to drive me off my lanai and inside…for ~10 minutes.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 07, 2018, 02:47:20 pm
That's two great skies. Are you becoming the sky man ;)

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chris Kern on November 07, 2018, 06:38:15 pm
‘Gastown Sam’ Logan, Vancouver, B.C., 2018

An interesting character—street artist, raconteur, and demi-philosopher—who my wife and I met a couple of months ago during a visit to Vancouver.  Sam was born in Denmark and educated in Ontario, but he has been a resident of British Columbia for many years.  (For those of you who don't know the city, Gastown is an artsy, touristy, pub district in downtown Vancouver.  To paraphrase Mark Twain's take on Richard Wagner's music, that's better than it sounds.)

Sam's artistic inspiration is distinctly Latin American—Mexican, and Central and South American—as is his taste in the recorded music he is constantly playing as he paints.  He currently is in Guatemala, teaching art to Mayan children under the auspices of a Vancouver non-profit, the Project Somos Children's Village.

Sam is also visible, at work, here (https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriskernpix/43916299115/in/datetaken-public/), in a photo I think I may previously have posted.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Dahlmann on November 07, 2018, 08:14:20 pm
Poppy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/6f210d5f245ae8df6c0731d3a94c1812.jpg)

Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 08, 2018, 12:09:04 am
‘Gastown Sam’ Logan, Vancouver, B.C., 2018

I've heard of Sam, via a Vancouver musician/guitar-making acquaintance. Pretty sure she's got at least one of his pieces.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 08, 2018, 12:16:44 am
That's two great skies. Are you becoming the sky man ;)

It's very much a "when in Rome…" deal. Though if I were Martin Parr I'd be down on the beach all day, snapping away at various pasty or red or burnt human specimens.  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 08, 2018, 06:21:02 am
This place has lain closed for decades. It was built at a boom time for Mallorcan tourism entertainment in the form of shows, something that high costs of acts and tickets has stifled

A couple of years ago, three people, a woman and two men, vagrants and always bad maths, lived there until one man - surprise, surprise - was found dead. Murder most foul!

The place has always attracted me, but the best bits are inside where I fear to tread. Perhaps with an armed bodyguard I'd enjoy it, but alone? Not on your life.

There have been various plans to redevelop it as something else, but money and vested interests always manage to ensure the status quo remains: deadlock.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 08, 2018, 08:56:38 pm
Poppy

Reminds me of a Corinthian column.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 10, 2018, 12:47:03 am
Tonight's Moon over *Kailua Bay, taken via iPhone "portrait" lens. Rough technically but I like it anyway (or even because).

-Dave-

*This place is called, depending on who you ask, Kailua-Kona, Kailua Village (the main road, Ali'i Drive, and its tourist shops & restaurants anyway), Kona town or just plain Kona. There's another Kailua, more well-known and with its own Bay, on Oahu…so locals prefer Kona or Kona town. Kona means leeward in Hawai'ian, and the kona side of each island is also the drier side. Though it's unusually humid here for this time of year, and warmer than normal too. My native friend Cisco and I are sitting out by the hotel pool in our swimwear ~2 hours after sunset, drinking Kombucha, and it's still 80° F. (I'm not complaining.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 10, 2018, 12:50:52 pm
Another landscape pic, because Rob wasn't depressed enough already. (Or depressing enough, depending on your point of view.)

We had a visitor over from HK. She liked the fact that you could look so far out everywhere in my country because it's all just so flat, but after half a day or so also realised that that gets boring reeeeaally quickly.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2018, 01:26:11 pm
Nice one, Oscar. In any other place I'd tell you why I think so, but rules have to be obeyed, as they used to say somewhere or the other.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 12, 2018, 12:39:01 pm
This morning, just after sunrise.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 12, 2018, 02:22:11 pm
Lost investments:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 13, 2018, 08:04:18 am
It could easily be on the list of post-win priorities:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 13, 2018, 08:29:50 am
It could easily be on the list of post-win priorities:

Blue jeans selfie!?   :o 8)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 13, 2018, 09:00:44 am
Blue jeans selfie!?   :o 8)

Oscar, the Levis were the easy part, even back in the 60s!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 13, 2018, 01:15:47 pm
De gustibus non disputandum est (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum)

Don't look at me, i don't do seafood.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 13, 2018, 08:05:01 pm
backyard
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 13, 2018, 09:56:40 pm
Blue Moon over Kona.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 14, 2018, 03:52:34 am
Blue Moon over Kona.

-Dave-

That one came out pretty good. Seems they have some pretty stable atmosphere there.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 14, 2018, 09:54:39 am
Those aliens are everywhere.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 15, 2018, 05:34:41 am
A picture a day, for the doctordistance, although this was last night before operation "dinner out", and considering the food, the doctor lady won't be pleased.

Driving home for christmas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_Home_for_Christmas)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 15, 2018, 07:09:07 am
A picture a day, for the doctordistance, although this was last night before operation "dinner out", and considering the food, the doctor lady won't be pleased.

Driving home for christmas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_Home_for_Christmas)


Looks like you shot it after op. dinner out...

I'm sitting in a place I haven't eaten in before - the tribulations of the winter off-season when the regular spot thinks of going to Mauritius (he's French, you know...) - and so I, too, pray I need no shortening of the doc mileage, but I do very much love my granddaughter who is one.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 15, 2018, 05:13:02 pm
That one came out pretty good. Seems they have some pretty stable atmosphere there.

Yeah, that particular afternoon was an average one humidity-wise, which is to say drier than most during my visit. Been more humid than average on Big Island this autumn.

Back home now, with a light dusting of snow on the trees and ground. Very unusual for mid-November snow to stick around during daylight hours. Thanks, Michigan, for the friendly welcome back.  :P

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 15, 2018, 08:33:37 pm
A walk in the park today
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 16, 2018, 05:07:37 pm
Great shot and clever title, Dave.

Also fits nicely into that tricky question that vexes many, of what comes first: the image, the concept or the title. Unless, of course, you control the shadowy person with the headache, in which case all bets are off.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: David Eckels on November 16, 2018, 06:10:25 pm
the image, the concept, the title... or the shadowy model
Thanx Rob. I saw the two mannequins and was trying to juxtapose those when the shadowy model just happened by. Serendipity... Priceless! Just look what you've inspired ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 17, 2018, 05:24:19 am
Thanx Rob. I saw the two mannequins and was trying to juxtapose those when the shadowy model just happened by. Serendipity... Priceless! Just look what you've inspired ;)


Don't thank me - thank Saul Leiter!

The important thing, though, is that you get it too. That understanding opens up a lot of photographic opportunity for free. My experience has been that it works much more frequently in b/w because colour blinds us with itself.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: David Eckels on November 17, 2018, 08:42:32 am
Wouldn't even have known who Saul Leiter was if you hadn't introduced us!
because colour blinds us with itself.
Interestng you say that; I am working on a blog piece, which touches on that very thing.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 17, 2018, 08:51:01 am
I was seriously contemplating calling it "crimescene" to have a bit of a recurring theme in our jazz improvisation, but that doesn't quite fly: the dark and light side are supposed to represent life and death and the meat the food that links the two. Yes, i realise that sentence was only barely linguistically correct, but it was tetering on the edge of artist statement. What do you expect?

Da Capo Al Fine
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 17, 2018, 10:00:02 am
I was seriously contemplating calling it "crimescene" to have a bit of a recurring theme in our jazz improvisation, but that doesn't quite fly: the dark and light side are supposed to represent life and death and the meat the food that links the two. Yes, i realise that sentence was only barely linguistically correct, but it was tetering on the edge of artist statement. What do you expect?

Da Capo Al Fine
Muito bem, if somewhat disturbing.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 17, 2018, 12:26:45 pm
I was seriously contemplating calling it "crimescene" to have a bit of a recurring theme in our jazz improvisation, but that doesn't quite fly: the dark and light side are supposed to represent life and death and the meat the food that links the two. Yes, i realise that sentence was only barely linguistically correct, but it was tetering on the edge of artist statement. What do you expect?

Da Capo Al Fine



So, you bumped into a doctor?

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 17, 2018, 12:47:53 pm
I measured the beat:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 17, 2018, 06:49:54 pm
memory of warmer days
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on November 17, 2018, 09:15:49 pm
...been playing around with film and old cameras. These were taken with a Zorki 4 that I picked up on eBay. This is from my first test roll. Unfortunately, the Zorki mangled my film at frame 25 (see attached), so I lost the last eleven or so on the roll. The lens is tack-sharp--Industar 52mm f/2.8.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 19, 2018, 02:43:53 pm
Off season can be nice, just as long as you're not looking for good, reasonably priced menus del dia to enjoy. Twice out of the last three lunchtimes I return home to feel nauseous.

Guess I'll just have to do as in every winter, and make my own more often.

:-(

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 19, 2018, 03:31:50 pm
You call that a backstory? ;-P
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 19, 2018, 04:49:49 pm
Oscar, I think we are both nuts!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 20, 2018, 08:33:58 am
This is new, but I have absolutely no recollection of its where and why, only of its how.

I suppose it underlines how I approach amateur (in its good sense) photography: instinctive reaction without much foreplay at all. Embarrassingly - perhaps - retrospections leads me to believe I did pretty much everything on that sort of emotional contract. Oh well; I survived without too much harm done to the horses.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 20, 2018, 09:09:22 am
Speaking of instinct...

One too many

No, don't look at me, i don't do alcohol.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 20, 2018, 12:31:19 pm
Speaking of instinct...

One too many

No, don't look at me, i don't do alcohol.

Reminds me of the American version of Sam Haskins, Wingate Paine's shot at 1.13.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNY4t9xh0J8

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 23, 2018, 02:10:27 pm
Back to basics:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 23, 2018, 04:08:28 pm
Haha, wtf Rob, must be some holistic thing going on...

(I captured it for the "clear" at the bottom of the sign as a comment on its state when not in use.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 23, 2018, 05:09:34 pm
I told you, Oscar, we're both nuts!

Seriously, though, I've had an interest in this image for quite a long time, but for some reason I tended to put it off. It stands at the side of the field where Moira the horse also stands all day long. I had the camera with me the time before last, and when I finished feeding her I snapped the snap, as they say.

Funny thing; today, she was halfway down the field when she saw me, and decided to trot towards me, which she used to do until she took the carrots for granted. Not only did she trot today, but actually did one of those strange kicking things that horses sometimes do in rodeos. I was quite impressed.

Deep thinkers, horses.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 23, 2018, 06:05:20 pm
No more to say here in North America. This one's from about 43 years ago.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on November 23, 2018, 09:03:26 pm
Back to basics:

Stark and dark...+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 24, 2018, 12:53:43 pm
Photographer's paradise:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 24, 2018, 02:05:52 pm
Inception

(Who would have thunk? A picture of a street that is actually appropriate to the genre...)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 24, 2018, 04:34:32 pm
Great composition; the upside down bike makes me think I'm looking at a raised bridge?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 24, 2018, 04:45:06 pm
Upside down world, then:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 25, 2018, 04:50:57 pm
While doing some maintenance work (tightening the trussrod a wee bit with a bespoke wrench) a couple nights ago on one of my old geetars…

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 27, 2018, 09:49:40 am
I sold my one and only guitar to another guy who probably had a tin ear too; at any rate, he never mentioned it at any later date. It was a black Silvestri made in Catania.

This pic has nothing to do with guitars:





Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 27, 2018, 04:36:33 pm
I sold my one and only guitar to another guy who probably had a tin ear too; at any rate, he never mentioned it at any later date. It was a black Silvestri made in Catania.

A fellow I know is fond of guitars from small European makers, especially those made from ~1930 through the '60s. He has a number of Levins, which were made in Sweden. Dunno if he has a Silvestri but I'm sure he knows of them.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 27, 2018, 05:02:31 pm
A fellow I know is fond of guitars from small European makers, especially those made from ~1930 through the '60s. He has a number of Levins, which were made in Sweden. Dunno if he has a Silvestri but I'm sure he knows of them.

-Dave-

It was an inexpensive acoustic, don't forget; did they have electric ones in '48?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 28, 2018, 02:19:41 pm
Self-explanatory:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on November 28, 2018, 02:22:00 pm
Self-explanatory and a very striking composition.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on November 28, 2018, 04:15:11 pm
It was an inexpensive acoustic, don't forget; did they have electric ones in '48?

Yeah, there were electric guitars in 1948. Dunno about electric Silvestris, though…never heard of one. Merle Travis was playing a Bigsby solidbody by then:

Click here to see it 'cuz f*&$!¥g Google (https://goo.gl/images/6xEsnU)

The aforementioned Levins were fairly inexpensive too, but generally well made and (especially pre-1950) good sounding.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 28, 2018, 04:39:46 pm
http://www.fetishguitars.com/sicily-southern-italy/silvestri/


Found this just now - seems to have been a company that went through various iterations.

Could be that Snr. Peter Fiore may know something about them because of the Sicilian connection. Perhaps I should have hung on to it, at least until the Internet came along!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 29, 2018, 02:07:53 pm
From the Analysis Files:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on November 29, 2018, 03:26:43 pm
The photographer reveals himself. Interesting shot.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 29, 2018, 03:50:45 pm
The photographer reveals himself. Interesting shot.


:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 29, 2018, 08:30:03 pm

:-)
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: BobDavid on November 30, 2018, 02:29:59 am
yes, good photo
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on November 30, 2018, 03:36:59 am
From the Analysis Files:

An exceptionally honest selfie. Not sure if it betters the doctordistance...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 30, 2018, 03:54:37 am
An exceptionally honest selfie. Not sure if it betters the doctordistance...

Still beats inspecting my armpits!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 30, 2018, 07:51:34 am
Social documentary, or tribal research from a safe distance:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 01, 2018, 06:08:01 am
Sound advice from the municipal authorities.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 01, 2018, 06:20:31 am
Sound advice from the municipal authorities.

Love it!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 01, 2018, 08:37:57 am
http://www.fetishguitars.com/sicily-southern-italy/silvestri/


Found this just now - seems to have been a company that went through various iterations.

Could be that Snr. Peter Fiore may know something about them because of the Sicilian connection. Perhaps I should have hung on to it, at least until the Internet came along!

Snr. Rob 
   
Non so da cosa parli...ma vorrei averlo fatto.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 01, 2018, 08:42:12 am
Love it!
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 01, 2018, 11:22:38 am
Snr. Rob 
   
Non so da cosa parli...ma vorrei averlo fatto.

Peter

I'm talking about guitars, especially Silvestri guitars made in Catania, Sicily.

I had a black one in '48 when I was kid living in northern Italy; I sold it when I was no longer a kid because never mind play it, I couldn't even tune the mother.

Dave Telecaster has a buddy who collects guitars; I was trying to find out something about the company but it seems they changed name a few times and may or may not now be collectible, despite having been cheapos (not why I couldn't play it!); they apparently also made jazz guitars, whatever they are. Back to dreaded genres - you see? even the guitar Internet needs them!

I just wondered if you or your Dad might have known something about the company...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 01, 2018, 06:59:18 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 02, 2018, 08:01:54 am
I'm talking about guitars, especially Silvestri guitars made in Catania, Sicily.

I had a black one in '48 when I was kid living in northern Italy; I sold it when I was no longer a kid because never mind play it, I couldn't even tune the mother.

Dave Telecaster has a buddy who collects guitars; I was trying to find out something about the company but it seems they changed name a few times and may or may not now be collectible, despite having been cheapos (not why I couldn't play it!); they apparently also made jazz guitars, whatever they are. Back to dreaded genres - you see? even the guitar Internet needs them!

I just wondered if you or your Dad might have known something about the company...

Rob

Rob,

My Dad was the youngest of four boys and the only one of his brothers born in Sicily. A long story about that. He and his family arrived in the United States for keeps in 1922. I wish I could ask him....so it goes.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 02, 2018, 05:05:11 pm
.

Tame! There are raccoons in the park where I often take long walks (and photos), but they keep well clear of humans. The sandhill cranes, OTOH, would probably eat out of my hand were I to offer 'em something tasty.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 02, 2018, 10:25:41 pm
Tame! There are raccoons in the park where I often take long walks (and photos), but they keep well clear of humans. The sandhill cranes, OTOH, would probably eat out of my hand were I to offer 'em something tasty.

-Dave-

Florida raccoons are something, they know no shame and would steal anything. For the records I was not offering them anything, but they got so close out of habit I guess. Doubt the cell with which I took the last photo looked that appealing.

Which park? The cranes I've seen in the SW Michigan keep the distance, quite excessively I would say.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 03, 2018, 02:52:21 pm
Stress of the day:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 03, 2018, 04:27:09 pm
Which park? The cranes I've seen in the SW Michigan keep the distance, quite excessively I would say.

Kensington Metropark northeast of Ann Arbor in SE Michigan. One of a string of parks & "recreation areas" adjacent to each other. The sandhills have become acclimated to humans over the past decade or so, to the point that nature trails near their favorite breeding/nesting areas now feature Please Don't Feed The Cranes signs.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 03, 2018, 06:05:55 pm
Stress of the day:

I like it (image and concept).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 03, 2018, 09:20:17 pm
I like it (image and concept).
Me too.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 04, 2018, 08:04:37 am
JNB and Eric: thanks for the positive thoughts.

Here's one that came to mind very consciously. Sorry to the original thinker, but hey, it's still something to do when the opportunity presents itself:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on December 04, 2018, 08:10:27 am
Maybe not Robert Frank, but good stuff nonetheless, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 04, 2018, 01:43:06 pm
Maybe not Robert Frank, but good stuff nonetheless, Rob.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 05, 2018, 02:06:32 pm
Not #1966:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 05, 2018, 08:20:46 pm
Not #1966:
Quite striking!

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 05, 2018, 11:52:55 pm
I found a couple old SD cards (2 GB!) this evening at the back of a drawer while looking for something else (which, naturally, I haven't yet found). Both contain photos I took with a Panasonic FZ50 "bridge" camera back in 2008. Some are from a walk in my fav park, including the attached one. I'm certain I took the photo because at the time seeing a sandhill crane in the parking lot of the park's Nature Center was such a novelty. Nowadays, though, I often have to maneuver around them on my way in & out of the lot. Processed from Raw in Affinity Photo on my iPad.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 06, 2018, 04:19:42 am
Quite striking!

JR

Thank you; we go for months without seeing one of these things, then suddenly, three - from 1966 to 2018!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 06, 2018, 05:01:25 am
Thank you; we go for months without seeing one of these things, then suddenly, three - from 1966 to 2018!

Rob

How large can this be reasonably printed? I'm sure it could be sold to a dealership somewhere. As with the previous one, apart from the blue jeans, of course.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 06, 2018, 05:02:45 am
Season's finale
(Italian ice cream parlour)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 06, 2018, 08:00:30 am
Season's finale
(Italian ice cream parlour)


A mirror of Puerto Pollensa!

Off season it's pretty much a morgue; quite nice, truth to tell: you can park, walk without selfies interruptus and not even get asked to use somebody's cellphone to snap them - which fills me with dread because I can't see a damned thing on them, but obviously that's always going to be my fault.

I think I'll apply for a job as resort PR.

 :-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 06, 2018, 08:01:46 am
How large can this be reasonably printed? I'm sure it could be sold to a dealership somewhere. As with the previous one, apart from the blue jeans, of course.

Probably as large as you want, just as long as there's backing off space...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 06, 2018, 08:21:37 am
Listening to Radio Caroline Flashback via the Internet; sad to hear Dusty Springfield sing her heart out, probably unaware at that moment of the fate that lay in store for her.

Anyway, Danger: Opera Singers at Work:

:-)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 06, 2018, 08:31:09 am
Listening to Radio Caroline Flashback via the Internet; sad to hear Dusty Springfield sing her heart out, probably unaware at that moment of the fate that lay in store for her.

Anyway, Danger: Opera Singers at Work:

:-)

Ella obviously (https://youtu.be/YG8K0yl4_hc)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 06, 2018, 09:13:19 am
Ella obviously (https://youtu.be/YG8K0yl4_hc)


One of my favourites before I lost my heart to rock 'n' roll... not because the music was as good, but because it felt more personally immediate - and girls danced.

I think it was she singing Hard Hearted Hannah in the movie Pete Kelly's Blues.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 07, 2018, 03:53:36 pm
Fun place to work:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 07, 2018, 11:04:58 pm
Fun place to work (Satanic Mill)

I like that image! Your title reminded me of this place, below. I could only imagine what went on behind those strange, little doors (no company signage to be found). I wasn't going to knock to find out!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 08, 2018, 12:29:40 am
Great stuff, Rob and JNB.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on December 08, 2018, 03:34:35 am
I like that image! Your title reminded me of this place, below. I could only imagine what went on behind those strange, little doors (no company signage to be found). I wasn't going to knock to find out!

Good capture of a simple scene that turns quite sinister after some thought. Probably just my imagination, since Rob might call it "therapeutic".
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 08, 2018, 04:55:51 am
I like that image! Your title reminded me of this place, below. I could only imagine what went on behind those strange, little doors (no company signage to be found). I wasn't going to knock to find out!

Lovely shot!

That steam just makes it, especially as it also signifies the horror show is ongoing!

A couple of years after the movie The House of Wax came out, I found myself working in the plating shop as part of my mech. eng. apprenticeship... Didn't find any bodies, but domestic fire pokers were a staple diet for those vats! I chromed everything metallic that I had at home that wasn't chained down and would fit in my cycle saddlebag.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 08, 2018, 04:57:24 am
Good capture of a simple scene that turns quite sinister after some thought. Probably just my imagination, since Rob might call it "therapeutic".


Therapy is where you find her.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 08, 2018, 07:57:32 am
Another. I have no idea what went on here. The building was immense and filled with strange (to me) machines. One whole wall (the back side, away from the street) was missing, which is how I was able to walk in. I didn't stay long as there were signs that someone had been living there. A few months later, however, the whole thing was demolished.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 08, 2018, 12:13:39 pm
Here are some more shots of old machinery in an abandoned factory.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 08, 2018, 01:09:29 pm
Here are some more shots of old machinery in an abandoned factory.

Cool. I like #2 and #4 best.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 08, 2018, 02:44:52 pm
Here are some more shots of old machinery in an abandoned factory.



Four's got a rather cool sense of graphic art to it, too.

Takes the theme beyond decline into abstraction, though I could see a painter having a go at that too, had he found it first!

Nice work, Eric.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 08, 2018, 04:17:27 pm
Puts me in mind of Fernand Leger and Rene Magritte.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 08, 2018, 04:49:53 pm
To avoid hijacking another LuLa thread: this is at Har HaBayit, aka al-Haram esh-Sharif, aka the Temple Mount. Taken (via Fujichrome 100, I think) in late summer 1984.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 08, 2018, 04:56:27 pm
To avoid hijacking another LuLa thread: this is at Har HaBayit, aka al-Haram esh-Sharif, aka the Temple Mount. Taken (via Fujichrome 100, I think) in late summer 1984.

-Dave-


That's a fringe benefit of WP: thread-free and just pix as they come to you! It's a nice genre, actually.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 08, 2018, 05:03:17 pm
Puts me in mind of Fernand Leger and Rene Magritte.


Wasn't it Leger that William Klein studied under in Paris? Interesting (if that's so) that some photographers feel a connecting vibe from some non-photographers, quite without really being aware of it. I think Klein was more interested in graphics than photography at the time...

So many things about vision and perceptions that we probably don't understand too clearly, even if we perhaps suspect they are there somewhere under the surface.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 08, 2018, 05:33:40 pm

Wasn't it Leger that William Klein studied under in Paris? Interesting (if that's so) that some photographers feel a connecting vibe from some non-photographers, quite without really being aware of it. I think Klein was more interested in graphics than photography at the time...

So many things about vision and perceptions that we probably don't understand too clearly, even if we perhaps suspect they are there somewhere under the surface.

Sure was.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 08, 2018, 07:55:52 pm
Cool. I like #2 and #4 best.
Thank you JNB, and Rob, and Keith.

Yes, I love the un-genred genre of the WP thread!

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 08, 2018, 11:41:46 pm
Thank you JNB, and Rob, and Keith.

Yes, I love the un-genred genre of the WP thread!

Eric
Yes, two and four, I really like.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on December 09, 2018, 05:54:38 am
I like that image! Your title reminded me of this place, below. I could only imagine what went on behind those strange, little doors (no company signage to be found). I wasn't going to knock to find out!

https://youtu.be/2_MeJo2GwEs?t=502
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 09, 2018, 08:14:07 am
Yes, two and four, I really like.

JR
Thanks, John.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2018, 08:29:56 am
https://youtu.be/2_MeJo2GwEs?t=502


Well, takes care of the low pension payments crisis and feeds the happy, unsuspecting tourists doing the green roads...

Country folk were always, well, slightly different.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2018, 08:31:33 am
The love of black glass:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 09, 2018, 03:35:57 pm
Another. I have no idea what went on here. The building was immense and filled with strange (to me) machines. One whole wall (the back side, away from the street) was missing, which is how I was able to walk in. I didn't stay long as there were signs that someone had been living there. A few months later, however, the whole thing was demolished.
Very much like your abandoned industrial site series. I guess all from Hamilton?

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 09, 2018, 04:31:12 pm
Very much like your abandoned industrial site series. I guess all from Hamilton?

JR

Various and sundry sites in Toronto, actually. The last one from the area east of Laird Drive. The one above that from a building just east of the DVP between Queen E. and Dundas E. Even at that time (14 years ago?) new businesses and condominiums were moving in. So much change. And many more fences and no-trespassing signs (I don't ignore those).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 10, 2018, 02:18:37 pm
Just liked the decay, and the fact that I'm not the cat paying to bring it back to snuff for the '19 season!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 11, 2018, 12:20:35 pm
A winter's tale:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 13, 2018, 11:49:22 am
A doffing to:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 14, 2018, 12:49:23 pm
Whilst working on this shot, I spied a tiny piece of cream cracker vanish into the keyboard; it did not reappear on shaking said board, so I expect I'll have to resort to the vacuum. Or do nothing, and hope it reciprocates, which would seem fair. Anyway:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 15, 2018, 08:49:04 am
Whilst working on this shot, I spied a tiny piece of cream cracker vanish into the keyboard; it did not reappear on shaking said board, so I expect I'll have to resort to the vacuum. Or do nothing, and hope it reciprocates, which would seem fair. Anyway:
[/quote]

Rob,

Was it a good cream cracker?

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 15, 2018, 09:06:34 am
Whilst working on this shot, I spied a tiny piece of cream cracker vanish into the keyboard; it did not reappear on shaking said board, so I expect I'll have to resort to the vacuum. Or do nothing, and hope it reciprocates, which would seem fair. Anyway:


Rob,

Was it a good cream cracker?

Peter


I'll have to find it again first before I can tell you. It might be good or it might not. I'm leaving it be, in the hope it doesn't have any effect, just like I hope they do with Brexit.

I suddenly stopped drinking tea three days ago because my usual dose of two or three mugs three times a day appears to be giving me a racing chest. It could perhaps be the coffee, but that's decaffed, and at the most, I have two or so cups a day if eating out or just having a walk, but I do know the cardios said just one. I think they meant normal, full-frontal coffee. At home now, I simply drink hot water.

On the other hand, perhaps it's just LuLa getting on my nerves a bit these days, what with all the agro and bile that flows like a tide. I think politics was more restful a topic than street with its sundry aberrations and pride issues. But what are you gonna do?

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on December 15, 2018, 09:16:00 am
You're not gonna be able to do anything, Peter. People who paint, draw, photograph, write poetry, write novels, etc., etc., etc, are passionate people. The passion always comes through one way or another. Ya gotta live with it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 15, 2018, 02:15:09 pm
Weekend television is even worse than the offerings during the working (joke) week: sport everywhere!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 15, 2018, 04:37:15 pm
Re. cream crackers, the 13th Doctor (Who) likes Custard Creams. (#11 was into Jammie Dodgers…strawberry, I think.)  ;D  When I was little, English/Scots biscuits & crackers were staple foods. No wonder I had so many cavities!

The only TV I watch, aside from Doctor Who and baseball (in season), comes from ad-free streaming sources. And YouTube in particular requires persistent curation to avoid the firehose of soul-sucking "you liked that, so here's a more extreme & histrionic version of it!" crapola generated by its algorithms.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 15, 2018, 05:03:31 pm
I look forward to Fridays at 7p.m. local time, when I put on France24 on the iPad and watch their news, followed by the weekly discussion with, amongst others, Christopher Dickie of the Daily Beast. Usually quite clever stuff... I no longer watch tv dramas other than a bunch of old series on the iPad, and having just completed the entire House lot, I'm kinda floating in my own world of fantasy, imagining new symptoms to go with my real problems. When you get to a certain age you no longer really care much; it becomes a game with yourself... of course, a big lottery win would upset that at once.

:-)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 16, 2018, 05:04:14 pm
Mind tripping:



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on December 19, 2018, 04:39:29 pm
A rare clear evening sky plus a moon equals a photo.

-Dave-
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Post by: Rob C on December 20, 2018, 02:51:05 pm
Found a new place for Italian food: this one is for taking out, and today I treated myself to their gnocchi. Next time, I'll get it from them uncooked, and make my own sauce. I was toying with the idea of buying a microwave, but decided against it: I think my late wife would not approve at all. She made wonderful gnocchi; of course, my mother taught her. And then relaxed, and let her make it ever after.

If this place lasts, and my energy too, it could dent my French guy's restaurant attendance, but hey, if he decides to close for three months of winter...

Anyway:


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Post by: KLaban on December 20, 2018, 05:08:17 pm
Found a new place for Italian food: this one is for taking out, and today I treated myself to their gnocchi. Next time, I'll get it from them uncooked, and make my own sauce. I was toying with the idea of buying a microwave, but decided against it: I think my late wife would not approve at all. She made wonderful gnocchi; of course, my mother taught her. And then relaxed, and let her make it ever after.

If this place lasts, and my energy too, it could dent my French guy's restaurant attendance, but hey, if he decides to close for three months of winter...

Anyway:

Port with gnocchi?

;-)
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Post by: Rob C on December 21, 2018, 04:04:15 am
Port with gnocchi?

;-)


Unfortunately, as I only get to enjoy a single glass per day, definitely a case of gnocchi with port!

Rob
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Post by: JNB_Rare on December 21, 2018, 11:27:42 am
We do have ports, but many more small wharves, jetties and shanties. Wife and I drove out for coffee this morning and stopped here for a couple of minutes.
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Post by: Telecaster on December 21, 2018, 04:23:29 pm
This was taken from a window near a porthole.  :)  You may've seen it before.

Photo by Bill Anders, 24 December 1968, on-board Apollo 8 with a Hasselblad 500 EL (a 500 C with motor drive) camera and Zeiss 250/5.6 lens at f/11 & 1/250 sec. on 70mm Ektachrome film. Processed by Seán Doran from a 16-bit scan.

-Dave-
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Post by: petermfiore on December 22, 2018, 06:50:45 am
This was taken from a window near a porthole.  :)  You may've seen it before.

Photo by Bill Anders, 24 December 1968, on-board Apollo 8 with a Hasselblad 500 EL (a 500 C with motor drive) camera and Zeiss 250/5.6 lens at f/11 & 1/250 sec. on 70mm Ektachrome film. Processed by Seán Doran from a 16-bit scan.

-Dave-
That’s what is called a world class room with a view.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 24, 2018, 05:02:56 pm
One man's art is another man's pain in the ass:

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Post by: 32BT on December 24, 2018, 06:45:06 pm
One man's art is another man's pain in the ass:

If you can frame it, then it must be art, no?

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Post by: petermfiore on December 26, 2018, 06:17:34 am
If you can frame it, then it must be art, no?

No.

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on December 26, 2018, 04:15:19 pm
If you can frame it, then it must be art, no?

Not in this case: it's using all the wrong thirds.

:-)
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Post by: fdisilvestro on December 29, 2018, 06:06:32 am
The dilemma ... (maybe few would understand)  ;)

(https://www.frankdisilvestro.com.au/img/s/v-3/p3247572478-4.jpg)
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Post by: Rob C on December 29, 2018, 10:09:40 am
No problem whatsoever - for me: I got rid of my F4S because it never auto-loaded properly on the first try; I had traded away my F and F2 Photomic by this time, and to get rid of the F4S I went backwards to the F3 which was better, except that unlike my other, older Nikons, without a battery it was stuck with one useless mechanical speed. I think the F2 was the final Nikon film masterpiece.

That F3 camera was almost never used, and I still have it today, where it lives in the dark beside my Minolta Flashmeter 111. Regarding the consumables: for 135 colour it had to be Kodachrome 64 Pro or nothing.

Those were the days!

Happy New Year, Francisco.
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Post by: faberryman on December 29, 2018, 10:28:04 am
Regarding the consumables: for 135 colour it had to be Kodachrome 64 Pro or nothing.
It was Kodachrome 25 for me. I'm not sure how I got along all those years with an ASA 25 film though. Today it seems unthinkable.
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Post by: Rob C on December 29, 2018, 01:53:46 pm
It was Kodachrome 25 for me. I'm not sure how I got along all those years with an ASA 25 film though. Today it seems unthinkable.


In some respects the 25 ASA stuff was better; for me, the problem was the contrast was generally going to be too harsh, especially on beaches with only a reflector to help out, and I disliked using those if avoidable.

Rob
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Post by: fdisilvestro on December 29, 2018, 04:43:52 pm
No problem whatsoever - for me: I got rid of my F4S because it never auto-loaded properly on the first try; I had traded away my F and F2 Photomic by this time, and to get rid of the F4S I went backwards to the F3 which was better, except that unlike my other, older Nikons, without a battery it was stuck with one useless mechanical speed. I think the F2 was the final Nikon film masterpiece.

That F3 camera was almost never used, and I still have it today, where it lives in the dark beside my Minolta Flashmeter 111. Regarding the consumables: for 135 colour it had to be Kodachrome 64 Pro or nothing.

Those were the days!

Happy New Year, Francisco.

Thanks Rob and happy New Year to you too

I agree that the Nikon F2 was the final Nikon film masterpiece and it will probably outlast any other machine on this earth, but the F6 is a joy to use (and I don't care what other people think)

I loved Kodachrome 25 for landscapes and 64 for people / general use, but I'm sure they will not come back. In regards to E100, I like the color palette

Regards
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Post by: JNB_Rare on January 07, 2019, 02:35:11 pm
Every Which Way But Loose. The words popped into my head even before I raised the camera to my eye, and definitely before I remembered that it was the title of a B movie starring Clint Eastwood and an orangutan.
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Post by: armand on January 08, 2019, 12:15:30 pm
,
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on January 08, 2019, 01:07:39 pm
Every Which Way But Loose. The words popped into my head even before I raised the camera to my eye, and definitely before I remembered that it was the title of a B movie starring Clint Eastwood and an orangutan.

A B movie? Surely not. It's great fun.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 08, 2019, 01:32:32 pm
Ya gotta remember, Jeremy, it's Hollywood deciding whether a movie is an A or a B. Hollywood!
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Post by: JNB_Rare on January 08, 2019, 02:25:37 pm
A B movie? Surely not. It's great fun.

Jeremy

But consider that there are C, D, E and "holy F, what was that?" movies.  ;D
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Post by: armand on January 08, 2019, 05:08:47 pm
Headshots
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Post by: Rob C on January 08, 2019, 05:23:28 pm
But consider that there are C, D, E and "holy F, what was that?" movies.  ;D


I'd vote for the effs!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on January 09, 2019, 10:37:31 am
(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3257873093-5.jpg)
Bhutan
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Post by: armand on January 09, 2019, 01:42:05 pm
hey
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Post by: Telecaster on January 09, 2019, 05:14:54 pm
Headshots

-Dave-
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Post by: Telecaster on January 09, 2019, 05:17:05 pm
(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3257873093-5.jpg)
Bhutan

Lovely. A sight I wouldn't object to seeing.  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: armand on January 09, 2019, 05:24:54 pm
-Dave-

This is more head and shoulders  :D
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Post by: Rayyan on January 10, 2019, 10:07:41 am

Thank you Dave. Much appreciated.

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3257873142-5.jpg)
Bhutan

Best.

Lovely. A sight I wouldn't object to seeing.  :)

-Dave-
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Post by: Rayyan on January 10, 2019, 10:10:29 am

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3257873097-5.jpg)
Bhutan
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Post by: KLaban on January 10, 2019, 10:29:56 am
Lovely work, Rayyan, particularly the last image.
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Post by: armand on January 10, 2019, 03:26:14 pm
keep climbing
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Post by: Telecaster on January 10, 2019, 05:06:45 pm
This is more head and shoulders  :D

Maybe the ripples in the water were caused by falling swan dandruff.  ;D

-Dave-
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Post by: Rayyan on January 11, 2019, 01:15:02 pm
Lovely work, Rayyan, particularly the last image.

Hey Keith! Hope your family n you are keeping well.
Thanks for the comment  :)

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3257873985-6.jpg)
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Post by: RSL on January 11, 2019, 01:21:34 pm
You're doing some pretty fine work here, Rayyan. Bravo!
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Post by: Rayyan on January 11, 2019, 01:35:27 pm

Hey, how you keeping Russ?
A happy, safe and prosperous New year 2019 to your family, friends and yourself. And to all others on the forum.

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3260266066-5.jpg)
Here's looking at you kiddo.

You're doing some pretty fine work here, Rayyan. Bravo!
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Post by: Rayyan on January 16, 2019, 03:28:25 am

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2175700208-6.jpg)
Somehere in New Zealand.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 16, 2019, 09:06:47 am
Hey, how you keeping Russ?
A happy, safe and prosperous New year 2019 to your family, friends and yourself. And to all others on the forum.

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3260266066-5.jpg)
Here's looking at you kiddo.
I love this one, Rayyan!
And Happy New Year to you, too.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 16, 2019, 09:10:44 am
I love it too. After a total of three years in Asia it's a fairly familiar sight, but the dog finishes the picture. A fine shot, Rayyan.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 19, 2019, 02:06:34 pm
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Post by: muntanela on January 20, 2019, 05:18:55 am
Helleborus niger subsp. macranthus (Freyn) Schiffn. (Mount San Martino, Lecco)
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Post by: francois on January 21, 2019, 03:35:42 am
Helleborus niger subsp. macranthus (Freyn) Schiffn. (Mount San Martino, Lecco)

Very nice and unusual shots…
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 21, 2019, 10:38:05 am
A red-bellied woodpecker that visits our suet feeder occasionally.
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Post by: John R on January 21, 2019, 12:37:56 pm
Oh Spring, why have you forsaken me. It is -15 and -30 with windchill today. I actually like Winter, but some days I long for Spring.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/RBG-impressions/i-f5ZfGhN/0/634b8805/L/May%202-%2012%20Niagara%20Gardens%20096%20copy1000-L.jpg)

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Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 21, 2019, 01:57:44 pm
 "I wiped my feet, may I please come inside?"
John, Eric... Your hope springs eternal inspired the posting of this sad little snapshot, just before dark, through the icy Windows as the gale and ice storm raged. Gale still today, temps hovering above zero and yet the fisherman go about their work tempting the fates as dangerous sea ice spray builds above board threatening their ability to remain afloat.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 21, 2019, 08:22:26 pm
I love it, Patricia!

Well, today the snow, rain, sleet, and freezing rain have all stopped. It got down to minus two F in our yard last night, but today inched up into the positive single digits, with winds making it feel like twenty below. So we stayed indoors all day. Tomorrow we'll try to defrost both our cars.

One of our regular visitors is a downy woodpecker, who stayed clinging to the suet feeder after lunch, all fluffed out from the cold wind.
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Post by: muntanela on January 22, 2019, 05:02:04 am
Lovely creatures. Here in Lombardy (northern Italy) since december the temperature is well above zero and the sky is nearly always mercilessly blue, only one day of very light rain. On the mountains only a thin layer of snow, while in central and southern Italy  winter did its job with cold, rains and even heavy snowfalls. Tomorrow it will snow in central (perhaps even in Rome…) and southern Italy, but here nothing yet ...

Thank you, Francois. Last Friday I had lost my cell there, because of a tumble (I was lucky to manage stopping in time…). It was a cheap one, but knowing it was alone, slowly dying,  was very unpleasant to me. Yesterday I have come back near to the place of my fall (I didn't remember it well), my wife (who in these days is far away, in Valtellina) called its number and... it rang near my feet, half buried in the ground...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 22, 2019, 08:15:05 am
Muntanela, your lovely hellebores looked so peaceful nodding in the winter light, one would have never guessed the adventure you had experienced.  To hear you express your sadness about your cell slowly dying alone says so much about you, and how it is we are gifted with the lovely flora you have offered us over the years as you make your walks. It is good for you, and for us, it was not to be you that would be half buried there with the lenten roses. Thank you. Good journeys. Maybe a small bit of snow to brighten your day~  :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on January 22, 2019, 11:52:09 am
Patricia is so welcoming and empathetic to the pigeon that it inspires more Spring. Now I have to go out and shovel what I missed yesterday.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/RBG-impressions/i-8wHkHtc/0/9ee28bc9/M/May%202-%2012%20Niagara%20Gardens%20280%20copy1000-M.jpg)
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Post by: armand on January 22, 2019, 11:59:45 am
Because I was still awake and had nothing better to do. Technically flawed but still fun.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on January 22, 2019, 04:39:51 pm
I went outside right near totality (lunar eclipse) but abandoned plans to take a snap or three after feeling the wind, not to mention the 0° F temp, and finding the moon was almost directly overhead. My surgically repaired neck & right shoulder responded to a brief look upward with an emphatic "Nope!", and that was that.

-Dave-
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Post by: armand on January 22, 2019, 07:45:12 pm
I'm not sure why but I wasn't cold, could have been the multiple layers.  ;D

A flippy screen helped here. I wasn't planning to take any shots but I was awake so why not. These were taken with a RX10 iii but the longest exposures didn't go so well, I wasn't prepared with low long the exposures can be so anything longer than 1 sec was blurry.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on January 23, 2019, 03:03:45 am
your sadness about your cell slowly dying alone says so much about you, and how it is we are gifted with the lovely flora you have offered us over the years as you make your walks.

I fear that it reveals something about infantile and neurotic traits of the personality (fixations ...).  Thanks for your beautiful words.
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Post by: Patricia Sheley on January 23, 2019, 07:54:16 am
I fear that it reveals something about infantile and neurotic traits of the personality (fixations ...).

The birthing  place of creativity and imagination,  exuberant languages of soul, and not quite yet on the to do list of eradication looming in the guise of governments.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 23, 2019, 04:46:41 pm
winter
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Post by: Rob C on January 24, 2019, 05:10:37 pm
Who knew he was interested in making snaps in black and white?

As I've never seen him, perhaps those who have already knew about his interest.

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Post by: armand on January 30, 2019, 10:00:20 am
Where is Waldo?
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Post by: armand on February 01, 2019, 10:32:01 am
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Post by: Rob C on February 02, 2019, 04:26:44 pm
This lady loves to roll in mud:

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Post by: petermfiore on February 02, 2019, 04:35:05 pm
Mud is made for rolling...

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on February 02, 2019, 05:01:27 pm
Mud is made for rolling...

Peter

And wrestling!

:-)
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Post by: petermfiore on February 02, 2019, 05:07:47 pm
And wrestling!

:-)

Wrestling is rolling around, with quasi rules...

Peter
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Post by: armand on February 05, 2019, 03:51:06 pm
Winter
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Post by: Rob C on February 05, 2019, 06:08:10 pm
For watching that mud wrestling:

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Post by: armand on February 07, 2019, 04:15:24 pm
Photographer
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Post by: 32BT on February 11, 2019, 06:46:41 am
1984
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Post by: Rob C on February 11, 2019, 08:09:58 am
1984


Careful; very close to forbidden fruit!

;-)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 11, 2019, 01:39:38 pm
Excellent catch, ~O~.
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Post by: Rob C on February 11, 2019, 02:17:09 pm
Folded selfie:

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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 11, 2019, 04:21:27 pm
Nice one, Rob.

But it looks as if you are hiding your ponytail under a cap.
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Post by: Rob C on February 11, 2019, 04:31:54 pm
Nice one, Rob.

But it looks as if you are hiding your ponytail under a cap.


But M. Poirot, the tail is at the back and the de rigueur baseball cap on the top!

:-)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 11, 2019, 10:28:18 pm
Ah, that improves it considerably.
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Post by: Rob C on February 12, 2019, 02:55:04 pm
Not a pony:

 

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Post by: Rob C on February 15, 2019, 02:31:54 pm
Nice one, Rob.

But it looks as if you are hiding your ponytail under a cap.



Found this one from the 70s.

My wife helping set up a little product shot to accompany the main shot with girl on same page.

No ponytail then, nor worries about losing my natural hat!

Today, I pay for that sunshine's effects; maybe I should have been fitted with that permanent UV filter.

Slobodan has trod those same rocks. No tripod holes from me!

:-)
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on February 15, 2019, 02:40:41 pm
... Slobodan has trod those same rocks. No tripod holes from me!

Yep... 1999.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 17, 2019, 09:43:33 am
I've never had such a lush head of hair, even as a teenager.
My dermatologist also wishes I had that permanent UV filter installed many years ago.
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on February 17, 2019, 09:54:55 am
I've never had such a lush head of hair, even as a teenager...

Reminds me of a Jewish curse (loosely translated from Serbian): “May God let you have it, then take it away.”  ;)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 17, 2019, 01:01:25 pm
Reminds me of a Jewish curse (loosely translated from Serbian): “May God let you have it, then take it away.”  ;)
Yes!!!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 17, 2019, 01:15:51 pm
Reminds me of a Jewish curse (loosely translated from Serbian): “May God let you have it, then take it away.”  ;)


Boy, do I qualify!

Rob
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Post by: Telecaster on February 19, 2019, 08:54:54 pm
Tonight's (just a wee bit past) full Moon.

-Dave-
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on February 20, 2019, 12:29:02 pm
Boy, do I qualify!

At the age of 30, I had much more (and darker) hair too :)
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Post by: 32BT on February 20, 2019, 01:37:07 pm
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Post by: 32BT on February 20, 2019, 01:37:24 pm
M
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Post by: 32BT on February 20, 2019, 01:38:08 pm
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Post by: Rob C on February 20, 2019, 02:13:22 pm
At the age of 30, I had much more (and darker) hair too :)


It's that pipe: guaranteed to kill the roots more quickly than cigarettes. By thirty I had already abandoned the smoke, but had converted that bunus into the defecit of self-employment. Look what it eventually did to Bailey, to Watson, Lindbergh and to Feurer. Not sure about Weber, that bandana hides a lot of truth. There's seldom any escape from the ravages of stress. Even when you aren't fully aware that you are being stressed. You can fool your mind but not your body. Let's not even touch on the evils of time!

:-)
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Post by: Chairman Bill on February 24, 2019, 07:18:38 am
One from yesterday's bimble along the Somerset coast at Kilve. Pretty flat light but I quite like this one.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on February 24, 2019, 09:14:07 am
One from yesterday's bimble along the Somerset coast at Kilve. Pretty flat light but I quite like this one.

Me too.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on February 24, 2019, 09:15:41 am
Walkabout in town. Bright and contrasty.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 24, 2019, 12:37:31 pm
One from yesterday's bimble along the Somerset coast at Kilve. Pretty flat light but I quite like this one.
I like it too, even without a single tree in sight.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 24, 2019, 12:38:40 pm
Walkabout in town. Bright and contrasty.
Excellent set!
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Post by: Rob C on February 24, 2019, 04:09:26 pm
Excellent set!

Yes, good eye at work!

Rob
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Post by: Rob C on February 24, 2019, 04:51:45 pm
An old one that probably wasn't shown because it's still in colour.

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Post by: John R on February 24, 2019, 06:59:59 pm
Walkabout in town. Bright and contrasty.
Fabulous John. Like them all. I think the bench and shadow is my favorite.

JR
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Post by: John R on February 25, 2019, 10:49:01 am
In Haliburton, Ontario, they built a "Sculpture Forest." One of the pieces on the path is this Rider and Horse which you can see below. I was so taken by the sculpture and the maniacal look of the horse and his equally wild rider, that I observed it for what seemed like hours. Had lunch in fact. It really is a fine piece. I converted sky to bw and blurred background to raise profile of horse and rider.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-wdbxhGP/0/a1d6f01c/M/Sept%2028-%202014%20Algonquin%20Area%20376%20halfbwcopy-1000-M.jpg)
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Post by: Rob C on February 25, 2019, 04:33:42 pm
Funny, the unexpected sights that can greet you of a morning when you open the curtains.

I guess it's the effect of very cold nights and warmish (not that I have touched it in years!) sea.

Rob

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Post by: JNB_Rare on February 27, 2019, 06:20:31 am
Last night we had a presentation at the local photo club on cell phone photography and editing. This may sound incredible to some, but I hadn't ever used the "damned thing" to take pictures (where the heck are my reading glasses?). My phone is just something the family insists I have with me when going walking and photographing (i.e. slipping on the ice and rocks, falling down embankments, etc.). You know – for emergencies.

But the presenter had urged us all to bring an image or two to practice editing. So I took a couple of photos while a group of us went out to a pre-meeting dinner. I have to say that I'm pretty impressed with the quality of pics from the phone and with the editing capabilities of the app the presenter demonstrated (Snapseed). But editing on that tiny screen (and I've got a "phablet") was not fun. And figuring out how to get it to my PC later just showed how out of touch I am with this stuff.  :) Anyway, here's my first cell-phone pic.
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Post by: Rob C on February 27, 2019, 06:54:48 am
The problem is, you are just as adept with the "damned thing" as with anything else, which leads to dangerous moments where you start to take chances, and leave the "real thing" at home, only to make a shot you later wish had been made on a proper camera.

As related before, that very sin of laziness cost me a nice little earner when a yachtie wanted to have a blow up made for his boat from a cellphone image he'd seen on my website. That was when I abandoned them for anything but reference shots to show shops and tradesmen when I need repairs to whatever.

Avoid the easy ways!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 27, 2019, 09:05:31 am
All I can say is: When you come to a fork in the road, take it (or take a picture of it.)   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on February 27, 2019, 09:40:35 am
All I can say is: When you come to a fork in the road, take it (or take a picture of it.)   ;)

 ;D !
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 27, 2019, 10:04:03 am
Lovely weather out. Early spring. Unfortunately I am operating between hayfever and a real fever. Might explain the swaying theme. But we need not keep the doctor busy...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on February 27, 2019, 10:05:08 am
High on paracetamol and diagonals.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on February 27, 2019, 10:26:24 am
Nice set, Oscar. But why do you keep zig-zagging in and out of this forum like your images ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 27, 2019, 12:28:26 pm
Nice set, Oscar. But why do you keep zig-zagging in and out of this forum like your images ;)
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 28, 2019, 04:19:33 am
Lovely weather out. Early spring. Unfortunately I am operating between hayfever and a real fever. Might explain the swaying theme. But we need not keep the doctor busy...


I thought you'd already learned about doctors! It's one pill after another.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 01, 2019, 03:19:19 pm
left behind
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on March 01, 2019, 06:44:53 pm
I've looked back at some older photos & discovered some stuff from a couple of years ago & images I'd taken for multi-stitch panos, never processed. So here's one of them ...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 02, 2019, 01:13:11 pm
probably photographed to death
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 02, 2019, 03:36:49 pm
They're doing some work on the moorings of the local yacht club; good work for the divers, though I'd not fancy it very much myself. I often wondered how they managed to get concrete to set underneath the sea; now I know.

Rob

 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 02, 2019, 05:49:55 pm
They're doing some work on the moorings of the local yacht club; good work for the divers, though I'd not fancy it very much myself. I often wondered how they managed to get concrete to set underneath the sea; now I know.

Rob

I always thought keeping concrete wet was crucial to the process, even on land. I suppose then, that this is merely a continuation of your maffia crime scene theme you cliffhung on us last year. (Yeah, I did turn it into a verb there. Seems all the rage these days. To bokeh or not to bokeh? When in Denmark, do as the romans do. Bokeh? Wasn't that Japanese for a rotten brain?)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 02, 2019, 06:28:56 pm
As seen in a store today. I don't even blame them for the brightly colored plastic tubes and bottles. Average price of 1 milliliter of fluid in that store can get up to 2 euros. I tried to deduce the price of 1 milliliter of kerosene for a Boeing full of passengers with one way tickets from here to China. I'm sure I could deduce that somehow and it would be very enlightening, I'm sure, and it would be a funny comparison too, as the plane could probably fly on either.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 02, 2019, 10:53:03 pm
A long way down
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 03, 2019, 04:31:10 am
I always thought keeping concrete wet was crucial to the process, even on land. I suppose then, that this is merely a continuation of your maffia crime scene theme you cliffhung on us last year. (Yeah, I did turn it into a verb there. Seems all the rage these days. To bokeh or not to bokeh? When in Denmark, do as the romans do. Bokeh? Wasn't that Japanese for a rotten brain?)

Yeah, I enjoyed that little series because apart from having a sense of direction, it also gave me a sense of purpose.

And that's the most difficult thing to find in photography.

You're mistaken about bokeh, though: it's what happens after rotten sushi: you end up spending the rest of the night on your knees, bokehing down the pan. And to think of all the fun destroyed, and regret created, in the olden days when people automatically and mistakenly blamed it on the booze!

Je ne regrette rien
J'ai tout oublié...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 03, 2019, 03:03:01 pm
Hand jive:



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 04, 2019, 04:55:58 pm
For some reason, this looks American to me, though it's actually the outskirts of Puerto Pollensa, Mallorca.

The sculpture was made in honour of two pilots of one of those firefighter aircraft that came down in the local bay, hardly a klick from home. Brave guys. They save a lot of people and their dreams, too.

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 04, 2019, 08:51:40 pm
For some reason, this looks American to me, though it's actually the outskirts of Puerto Pollensa, Mallorca.

The sculpture was made in honour of two pilots of one of those firefighter aircraft that came down in the local bay, hardly a klick from home. Brave guys. They save a lot of people and their dreams, too.

Rob

It does!
They do!
It smokes...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 05, 2019, 06:53:03 am
It does!
They do!
It smokes...

Probably a careless Marlboro...

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 05, 2019, 02:02:45 pm
Moira dreaming of another time, another place:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 05, 2019, 09:35:07 pm
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 09, 2019, 01:59:54 pm
The night manager's holding pen.

He even got lucky there...

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 11, 2019, 02:03:36 pm
.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 11, 2019, 05:19:57 pm
..

Hah, I know (electronically) a guy who used to travel around with a piano. And a dog. He even took both on international trips, with the piano shipped ahead of time. He's "retired" now. Maybe the guy in your photos is an imitator, or maybe this is just an example of "concept convergence."  :D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 11, 2019, 07:59:42 pm
into the forest
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 11, 2019, 11:17:10 pm
Where there is hard work, there is somebody trying to benefit from it
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 12, 2019, 11:32:32 pm
simple 2
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on March 13, 2019, 07:09:17 am
Two plants of Mountain Pasqueflower (Pulsatilla montana (Hoppe) Rchb.) at Piani di Barra, an ancient Ostrogothic settlement on Monte Barro, at Lake Como. The first one, really tiny, had just begun to bloom.

http://www.academia.edu/705228/_2011_Monte_Barro_an_Ostrogothic_fortified_site_in_the_Alps
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on March 13, 2019, 07:58:47 am
Two plants of Mountain Pasqueflower (Pulsatilla montana (Hoppe) Rchb.) at Piani di Barra, an ancient Ostrogothic settlement on Monte Barro, at Lake Como. The first one, really tiny, had just begun to bloom.

http://www.academia.edu/705228/_2011_Monte_Barro_an_Ostrogothic_fortified_site_in_the_Alps

I love the second one a lot (the first shot is also nice). The Monte Barro info is also very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 13, 2019, 12:47:39 pm
The second is a beauty!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 13, 2019, 02:25:46 pm
crossing
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on March 14, 2019, 06:36:43 pm
Thanks!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 17, 2019, 01:03:54 pm
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 17, 2019, 06:56:36 pm
Nice one, Armand.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 19, 2019, 05:02:22 pm
Thank you.

Late fall
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 20, 2019, 04:22:19 pm
As I seem to have given up photographing anything in favour of watching dance videos of fast, floating young women (must be the bounce in the shoes), here's a shot from a year or two ago. It probably has nothing at all to do with shoes, but you never can tell.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 20, 2019, 05:11:06 pm
I don't know about shoes, but it does have that old Rob C magic.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 20, 2019, 05:14:31 pm
Oh, if oldies are allowed, here's one with everything wrong from capture to processing and whatnot. But it is crackin' good street, even if I say so myself, since it lacks a street but has a railroad in it.

And there is a young woman in it, possibly listening to music. Before you'll know it, she'll be floating too. Notice particularly, Rob, her interest in older men...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 20, 2019, 05:26:47 pm
Oh, if oldies are allowed, here's one with everything wrong from capture to processing and whatnot. But it is crackin' good street, even if I say so myself, since it lacks a street but has a railroad in it.

And there is a young woman in it, possibly listening to music. Before you'll know it, she'll be floating too. Notice particularly, Rob, her interest in older men...

That interest on older men. Yes, it must be painful for older men. But hey, not for experienced older men. They've been there before. Sadly.

Not street, but excellent road. Railroad.

:-)

P.S.

I'd been worrying a bit about you; wondered if you'd picked up my own malaise too.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 20, 2019, 05:37:08 pm
I don't know about shoes, but it does have that old Rob C magic.

Thank you, Eric, but you touch upon the problem: the magic, I think she's flown. At least, she doesn't call me to arms anymore. I blame house viewers, estate agents and plumbers. Mine (plumber) did show on Tuesday, fitted the tank, but Tuesday night I discovered a leak at the connection between hot water outlet and the pipe to the various taps. So another visit whenever I can get him, and prior to that, all the blasted sacrificial sheets down on the carpets again. But at least a nice hot shower enjoyed!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 27, 2019, 02:25:18 pm
My scream against Brexit and the machinations behind the/our uncharacteristically mute Boris Trump.

The acutely focussed observer will notice the newly silent one has had a change of image, eschewing the madcap hairstyle for the English version of the crew, in his quiet makeover to stand as a respectable, certainly sober representative-of-the-mainstream prime ministerial candidate since the collapse of the incumbent fair maid who has just traded her soul for a chimera. Proud days, ye Brits!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on March 28, 2019, 04:51:43 pm
I think a photo of wild turkeys is an appropriate response to Rob's post.  :D  So here's one, taken today on my first park walk of 2019 (after a thoroughly dreary winter that left me uninterested in traipsing through slush & mud). This is about as close as I've ever been to these park residents without them freaking out. They had their eyes on me for sure, but didn't seem much bothered by the company. Note the iridescence of their breast feathers and the near-electric reds & blues of their heads & necks. Taken with Miyazaki-san's MS Optical 73mm f/1.5 lens at ~f/2.8 (no aperture detents). [Edit: I've added a crop from an alternate pic.]

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 28, 2019, 05:18:13 pm
I think a photo of wild turkeys is an appropriate response to Rob's post.  :D  So here's one, taken today on my first park walk of 2019 (after a thoroughly dreary winter that left me uninterested in traipsing through slush & mud). This is about as close as I've ever been to these park residents without them freaking out. They had their eyes on me for sure, but didn't seem much bothered by the company. Note the iridescence of their breast feathers and the near-electric reds & blues of their heads & necks. Taken with Miyazaki-san's MS Optical 73mm f/1.5 lens at ~f/2.8 (no aperture detents). [Edit: I've added a crop from an alternate pic.]

-Dave-

Dave, iridescent breasts have always been things I've found totally fascinating - with or without feathers. I suppose a nice, clean boa would help in some cases, in the sense that less can sometimes be more.

The things that come to mind as I stand, straddling the electric heater in vain attempt to rediscover central heating as she used to be. It's that tease-time of year where the sun makes one sweat but the shade causes shivers. The wind, however, is freezing, sunshine or otherwise. That said, Chuck Berry coming over the Internet does as much for the central heating quest as the radiator.

Anyway, they tell me the coming day or next will bring rain, at which time I may venture out again with the camera. i've been telling myself pretty much that all winter through.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on March 29, 2019, 02:13:58 pm
Rob, I just saw an episode of "Rail away" on Palma and thought they have a bloody cool old train there! Considering there is always something happening at even a minor trainstation like in my town, I figure you owe us some bloody cool "road" photography.

From the official youtube channel: https://youtu.be/TbCeqnOvPLI

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 29, 2019, 06:34:24 pm
Rob, I just saw an episode of "Rail away" on Palma and thought they have a bloody cool old train there! Considering there is always something happening at even a minor trainstation like in my town, I figure you owe us some bloody cool "road" photography.

From the official youtube channel: https://youtu.be/TbCeqnOvPLI

Energy, Oscar... it's a long way to go. Glasgow's Transport Museum provided a great tram interior for a hairdressing (I think) shoot that I did. I shudder to think of all the stuff I sold to clients or destroyed back in '81 when we were leaving. Burning bridges had nothing on this. It all went, including my Vogues. I guess I really did want a new life rather badly.

Something about the 20s and 30s that can't be beaten by modernity; it was a time and a sense of classic design. Oh to have been a photographer then, knowing how much was about to be lost.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: mbaginy on March 30, 2019, 06:32:19 am
Something about the 20s and 30s that can't be beaten by modernity; it was a time and a sense of classic design. Oh to have been a photographer then, knowing how much was about to be lost.
Your remarks remind me of the film Midnight in Paris.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 30, 2019, 06:46:47 am
... iridescent breasts have always been things I've found totally fascinating - with or without feathers...

 :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on April 01, 2019, 10:49:01 am

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3352008565-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 01, 2019, 02:01:06 pm
(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p3352008565-5.jpg)


Like that a lot; decidedly good atmospheric treatment of colour!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on April 01, 2019, 02:15:16 pm
+1. Beautiful, Rayyan.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 01, 2019, 03:06:55 pm
Russia?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Telecaster on April 01, 2019, 03:45:07 pm

Atmospheric is right! "This is Eastern Europe."

-Dave-
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on April 01, 2019, 06:10:48 pm
Rob, Russ, Slobodan, Dave..thank you for stopping by.
And thank you kindly for your comments.

Kiev, Ukraine.

Take care.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on April 01, 2019, 10:29:02 pm
You certainly composed it so the whole scene comes to life.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on April 02, 2019, 04:24:07 am
This one is superb with those golden onions domes.
Well done!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 02, 2019, 03:21:09 pm
Reminder to self that the tourist season begins now.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on April 02, 2019, 07:39:50 pm
Visiting the butterfly conservatory reminds me of spring!

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Niagara-Region/i-6bLm7mn/0/e4d13b4c/M/May%2023-11%20Niagara-1%20117%20copy2-1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on April 04, 2019, 09:17:17 am
A little known access road on the way back from the butterfly conservatory. Accessible only after winter.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-KqRmGZk/0/17cca5a2/M/Oct%2016-11%20Scottsdale%20256%20copy2-1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 07, 2019, 02:25:31 pm
Shot it a fraction too late (chalk that up to mirrorless). No double meaning or twist, it ain't street. It was shot at the airport, but that doesn't make it travel atmospherics either. Just upping the image quotum.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on April 07, 2019, 02:32:03 pm
I like it, great shot...

Shot it a fraction too late (chalk that up to mirrorless) How so?

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 07, 2019, 02:54:18 pm
I like it, great shot...

Shot it a fraction too late (chalk that up to mirrorless) How so?

Peter

The people silhouettes would be better framed centered in a windowpane, which is less than half a second  before this. The dinky toy camera is cracked, which had an effect on the required shutterbutton pressure, so it may be just me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 07, 2019, 02:57:37 pm
Good photo, Oscar.

Too late because you wanted to frame them more centrally in the windows? It would have been cute, but I wouldn't let that worry you one bit - it works well as it is.

Regarding your humour re. genres: my own pix today are mostly in a slot that has little genre value or, really, type identity; I also realised a short while ago that, in fact, none of my recent work even tries to be particularly dramatic and/or outstanding. What it turns out to have been all along is a record of what I have found interesting to me, with nothing whatsoever to do with suitability for display as decoration or anything else that suggests making a print and, therefore, a statement of some sort. It's quite apart from that concept of making pictures. I feel you work along similar beliefs.

Rob


P.S.

Oops! You beat me to the button by a second or two!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 07, 2019, 04:01:13 pm
... my own pix today are mostly in a slot that has little genre value or, really, type identity; I also realised a short while ago that, in fact, none of my recent work even tries to be particularly dramatic and/or outstanding. What it turns out to have been all along is a record of what I have found interesting to me, with nothing whatsoever to do with suitability for display as decoration or anything else that suggests making a print and, therefore, a statement of some sort. It's quite apart from that concept of making pictures...

I'd call it an introspective genre.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 07, 2019, 04:07:24 pm
It's quite fine just as it is.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 07, 2019, 04:22:02 pm
It's quite fine just as it is.

I'll drink to that!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 07, 2019, 04:38:03 pm
...Regarding your humour re. genres: my own pix today are mostly in a slot that has little genre value or, really, type identity; I also realised a short while ago that, in fact, none of my recent work even tries to be particularly dramatic and/or outstanding. What it turns out to have been all along is a record of what I have found interesting to me, with nothing whatsoever to do with suitability for display as decoration or anything else that suggests making a print and, therefore, a statement of some sort. It's quite apart from that concept of making pictures. I feel you work along similar beliefs.

Rob, it's what many of us I do. Whether it ends up looking decorative or being printed is largely by the by and certainly not what compels us me to make the image.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 07, 2019, 05:38:42 pm
I'd call it an introspective genre.


I really wonder if it can even be that, because it isn't something that comes from inner broodings - rather is it just something that snaps into focus as I come upon it. I do, however, accept that mood (that I'm in at the time) may well be the trigger to the vision that comes up. Only rarely do I plan anything. Truth to tell, I probably winged pretty much all my work as few folks gave me layouts to follow. Maybe I was lucky that way and got to do a lot of what I liked except for some vital occasions that meant I didn't even get to have a say on the choice of model. Those gigs never gave me much joy. It hurt so much I even decided to mention it somewhere on my website; yeah, at the end of the blurb at the top of the "Calendars" gallery. Teardrops in heaven.

However, the abandoned power station series was intentional, so there is ever the exception to things.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 07, 2019, 05:55:50 pm
Rob, it's what many of us I do. Whether it ends up looking decorative or being printed is largely by the by and certainly not what compels us me to make the image.


Maybe I'm just saying that it doesn't matter if the shot's much good or not, just that it prompted a shot - probably to see how it would look post-Photoshop. Now that line's so close to both Winogrand and (so he claims) Meyerowitz as to be in danger of being thought plagiarism.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 07, 2019, 08:13:14 pm

... Teardrops in heaven.

However, the abandoned power station series was intentional, so there is ever the exception to things.

"Ghost Flyers in the Sky" was another stand out imo. Usually I do look for at least an attempted congruent "narrative" in a picture. Whether that narrative was initially an intuitive capture, is largely academic. You tell us to use our underbelly for image capture. Perhaps that underbelly is quite comprehensive in its assessment. Not only in the beauty of composition and light, but additionally in congruence and narrative.

See beautiful light
See plane, smokey mist, and signs pointing at sky
Run through associations
Capture plane + mist + signs
End up with congruent narrative

Clearly you didn't sit there for an entire lunch session contemplating all associations, solving a crossword puzzle to feed your language appetite, then deciding which camera may best capture whatever your rational brain came up with... Yada yada

Intuition already solved the important bits before you even managed to move your camera up to your eye. Your underbelly only had to move the lazy rest of your body for the right composition.

Of course, you already know what I think about underbellies: they are primarily useful for detecting an empty stomach, not an empty brain. Which would explain the existence of 99.999% of all images we encounter today...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on April 08, 2019, 03:53:50 am
I'll drink to that!

I see the germ of a jolly fine evening there, Slobodan.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 08, 2019, 04:19:20 am
"Ghost Flyers in the Sky" was another stand out imo. Usually I do look for at least an attempted congruent "narrative" in a picture. Whether that narrative was initially an intuitive capture, is largely academic. You tell us to use our underbelly for image capture. Perhaps that underbelly is quite comprehensive in its assessment. Not only in the beauty of composition and light, but additionally in congruence and narrative.

See beautiful light
See plane, smokey mist, and signs pointing at sky
Run through associations
Capture plane + mist + signs
End up with congruent narrative

Clearly you didn't sit there for an entire lunch session contemplating all associations, solving a crossword puzzle to feed your language appetite, then deciding which camera may best capture whatever your rational brain came up with... Yada yada

Intuition already solved the important bits before you even managed to move your camera up to your eye. Your underbelly only had to move the lazy rest of your body for the right composition.

Of course, you already know what I think about underbellies: they are primarily useful for detecting an empty stomach, not an empty brain. Which would explain the existence of 99.999% of all images we encounter today...


Yes, the comment about intuition is important. It's why the "underbelly" has to be developed until it's capable of rumbles of its own, and I think that comes about from looking at a lot of pictures over a long stretch of time. That department has to be nourished, if not exactly educated to the degree that it becomes incapable of original thought. Of course, there are always those who need no nourishment, coming into this world with an advanced underbelly that inspires others, but I guess they are few.

A factor that forces individuality is location: you can seldom photograph what isn't available to you. My Zabriskie Point snaps are never going to be worked on on my monitor.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 08, 2019, 04:42:22 am
http://www.horvatland.com/WEB/en/page/INTERVIEW/content.htm

The above may somehow be relevant.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 08, 2019, 04:54:52 am
Intuition, instinct, underbelly, gut, call it what you will.

Up until a few years ago my cameras were bolted to a tripod, shot selection and shooting was a far more considered and time consuming process, much the same as when there was a paint brush in my hand.

Now, with camera in hand, and the very nature of what it is I'm doing and where I'm doing it, the selection and shooting process by necessity has to be largely governed by intuition, instinct, underbelly and gut.

I'm not at all sure this is facilitated by looking at a lot of pictures, but believe it is something that is there, or indeed not. 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on April 08, 2019, 08:00:01 am
Intuition, instinct, underbelly, gut, call it what you will.

Up until a few years ago my cameras were bolted to a tripod, shot selection and shooting was a far more considered and time consuming process, much the same as when there was a paint brush in my hand.

Now, with camera in hand, and the very nature of what it is I'm doing and where I'm doing it, the selection and shooting process by necessity has to be largely governed by intuition, instinct, underbelly and gut.

 
Keith
Try a brush with your new gut...You never know.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on April 08, 2019, 08:47:01 am
Keith, what you're saying is that you're acquiring the street photographer's approach to things: grab the camera, get out there, and see what's happening. In street photography it's always a gut reaction to the scene. If your gut is anything like mine, it's often wrong, but when it's right, the satisfaction can be worth all the hassle.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 08, 2019, 09:26:31 am
Keith
Try a brush with your new gut...You never know.

Peter

Peter, impressionism, even!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 08, 2019, 09:30:33 am
Keith, what you're saying is that you're acquiring the street photographer's approach to things: grab the camera, get out there, and see what's happening. In street photography it's always a gut reaction to the scene. If your gut is anything like mine, it's often wrong, but when it's right, the satisfaction can be worth all the hassle.

Russ, simply put, it floats my boat!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on April 08, 2019, 10:42:32 am
Floats mine too, but nowadays when I "get out there" it's usually to walk along the river instead of through the crowds.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 08, 2019, 02:26:50 pm
A picture a day, keeps the doctor away, except this was shot at the hospital which would be slightly inconvenient. Don't worry, I was merely taxiing someone else...

Absurdism
(I'm sure Ivo would love this...)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 08, 2019, 02:39:06 pm
Considering what the subject is, you should have waited for a vulture to take its seat on the light.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 08, 2019, 04:44:31 pm
Repairs.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 09, 2019, 06:39:08 am
Rob, I'll risk it and suggest that I like your erection very much.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 09, 2019, 11:18:53 am
Rob, I'll risk it and suggest that I like your erection very much.

:-)
+1.   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 09, 2019, 01:39:05 pm
Thank you gentlemen; be careful never to say that without an accompanying photograph! It could ruin/change your lives. Everyone has to be careful - me included; age is no barrier to problems!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on April 09, 2019, 03:48:41 pm
Peter, impressionism, even!
Keith,
You never can tell!!!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 10, 2019, 03:43:31 am
OMG, I sooooooo found an utterly brilliant location. Seems like a tractor graveyard, but no longer under active care. Overgrown, rusty, rotten metal parts and pieces with beautiful patina on what appear to be classic tractors and forklifts from a bygone era. Persistent vines slowly crawling each gap and crevice, accentuating forms, shapes, and contours. Untouched relics of the past slowly succumbing to nature.

Unfortunately, there's a relatively well kept fence surrounding the premises, leading me to believe it may even be a deliberate venue of some sort. I'm sure Rob would go totally Maffia-atmospherics on us, given half a chance. Perhaps it is a great location for some drone footage! Rajan, you hear me?

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/y2fV3
(Select satellite view, notice all the rusty brown rectangles in the forrest like surrounds)

A quick, midday snap through the fence, not exactly doing the entire place any justice, but it illustrates the idea.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 10, 2019, 03:00:46 pm
Apart from distance, that would be a bit of a magnet! Beware junkyard dog.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GDUlDhwqda0

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 10, 2019, 07:52:09 pm
How about a fully functioning Rat Rod?

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 10, 2019, 07:54:04 pm
And some more:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 10, 2019, 08:28:00 pm
Junkman? I know where he lives...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on April 11, 2019, 04:40:12 am
What is this, "Without Prejudice" topic?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on April 11, 2019, 04:36:11 pm
No critique allowed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on April 11, 2019, 05:00:43 pm
No critique allowed.
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on April 11, 2019, 05:17:00 pm
How about a fully functioning Rat Rod?

No stirrups, no saddle, no boots

https://www.tebeosfera.com/T3content/img/T3_documentos/z/u/vera_historia_del_indio_patoruzu/h-350_vera_historia_del_indio_patoruzu.jpg
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 11, 2019, 05:42:52 pm
What is this, "Without Prejudice" topic?


That's a reasonable question. This is Without Prejudice Vol.3. In Vol.1, right at the beginning, it was stipulated that it be a section of LuLa where people could post pictures without the annoyance of being subjected to the second-guessers of this world, of which photography has millions.

That does not mean that you can't say you enjoy some of the pictures, just that nobody posting them in this slot wants to be told "how to do it better".
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on April 12, 2019, 04:56:12 am

That does not mean that you can't say you enjoy some of the pictures, just that nobody posting them in this slot wants to be told "how to do it better".

Thanks Rob.
A good place to post my pics then  ;D
Just joking
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 12, 2019, 08:13:17 am
... A good place to post my pics then  ;D

No, we have a whole sub forum, not just thread, reserved for you:

https://forum2.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?board=41.0
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on April 12, 2019, 08:49:31 am
No, we have a whole sub forum, not just thread, reserved for you:

https://forum2.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?board=41.0

Thank you, Slobodan. I read it also very often and learn lots from it

No need to be arrogant and then stand corrected by people who really know, as has been so many times your case.  8)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 12, 2019, 09:01:32 am
For some reason, I don’t know why, whenever I see your question that most people resolved 5-10 years ago, I can’t help thinking of this Geico commercial:

https://youtu.be/9ocn8j42t_s



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 12, 2019, 09:15:58 am
Can I respectfully point out that this is after all "Without prejudice"? Maybe take animosity outside?

Otherwise I need to buy me some popcorn, and we only have that microwave stuff...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on April 12, 2019, 09:30:50 am
Can I respectfully point out that this is after all "Without prejudice"? Maybe take animosity outside?

Otherwise I need to buy me some popcorn, and we only have that microwave stuff...

Sorry about that friends. I also have no idea of why I'm getting bullied every few posts.
I'm respectful to everybody. Sometimes one cannot help but growl.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on April 12, 2019, 11:23:25 am
Hey folks, some joking does not translate well across cultures and language when written. Even with emojis.
Let's go back to the "without" theme of this thread, please.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on April 12, 2019, 01:50:03 pm
Bullying is one of the least attractive attributes.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 13, 2019, 09:35:15 am
Great stuff both ~O~ and Slobo.

(If this were a different thread, I might suggest that ~O~ immediately buy a bolt cutter  and return to that rich scene.)  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 13, 2019, 10:17:17 am
Great stuff both ~O~ and Slobo.

(If this were a different thread, I might suggest that ~O~ immediately by a bolt cutter  and return to that rich scene.)  ;)

But Eric, it is also a great place to dump '"excess bagage". Besides, he's a neighbour of sorts. I'm sure it would get awkward if I subsequently bolted that stuff to my own house. Come to think of it! You're not suggesting that I'm the junkman now, do you? Admittedly, my camera is a piece of junk, my postings are questionable in the same regard, but I can assure you, the Dutch are a tidy bunch overall, moi incl.

;-)  <-------
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 13, 2019, 11:07:53 am
If he's a neighbor, best to do it in the wee hours when he's asleep.
Or, is there any chance he's let you in, perhaps for a small bribe? It looks like a gold- rust-mine with lots of good opportunities.

(Disclaimer: The above is a random collection of keystrokes, not intended to be an illegal suggestion in WOP3.)

~E~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 14, 2019, 05:33:27 pm
I usually am not into bird photography but this was a low hanging fruit
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on April 14, 2019, 11:11:46 pm
They are a little soft, but still great to see.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 15, 2019, 08:43:09 am
They are a little soft, but still great to see.

JR

Thanks. Yes, a mix of things (conversion to jpg, bird moving too fast for my set shutter speed). Here is a 100% crop from a version with less movement.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 15, 2019, 02:57:40 pm
a couple more birds
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 17, 2019, 07:36:30 pm
At the beach

Possibly arranged by somebody before the tide came.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: mbaginy on April 18, 2019, 04:35:58 pm
A nice arrangement, Armand.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 18, 2019, 05:10:49 pm
Yes it is.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 18, 2019, 07:51:44 pm
Thank you!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 18, 2019, 07:58:45 pm
San Francisco
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 18, 2019, 10:13:14 pm
San Francisco

The image tonality nicely depicts the bleakness of the modern cities.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on April 18, 2019, 11:50:02 pm
A nice arrangement, Armand.
Yes I have been back to this one a few times. I was going to say it was arranged, but you already said that. It is nice a find and I like how you positioned the oval-like arrangement in the picture space. Love the muted almost pastel tones against grey-white sand. It accentuates the soft colours. Well done.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 19, 2019, 12:33:31 pm
LSD trip.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 19, 2019, 12:35:47 pm
The image tonality nicely depicts the bleakness of the modern cities.

Thank you! It was my third time in San Francisco but I didn't get this view before, only street level. At street level I think most large cities share a common ground, even Miami, with slightly different flavors.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 19, 2019, 12:37:39 pm
Yes I have been back to this one a few times. I was going to say it was arranged, but you already said that. It is nice a find and I like how you positioned the oval-like arrangement in the picture space. Love the muted almost pastel tones against grey-white sand. It accentuates the soft colours. Well done.

JR

Thank you! Whatever arrangement was made it happened some time before as more than half of it was partially buried in the sand. Still pretty though regardless of the origins.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: mbaginy on April 19, 2019, 01:07:39 pm
Audrey?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 19, 2019, 02:22:54 pm
Looks like Amsterdam street humor.
Delightful.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: mbaginy on April 19, 2019, 03:10:18 pm
It was in Maastricht, Eric.  A wonderful city, just an hour from home in Bonn.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 21, 2019, 02:38:33 pm
camouflage
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 22, 2019, 04:12:44 pm
Surreal
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 22, 2019, 04:24:19 pm
Well-titled.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: mbaginy on April 22, 2019, 04:43:25 pm
Well-titled.
+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 23, 2019, 08:31:31 pm
..
Title: Re: Part of the VLA in NE ARizona
Post by: armand on April 24, 2019, 03:12:48 pm
Part of the VLA in NE ARizona. A very interesting and impressive thing to see along US 60.

Nice!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 24, 2019, 04:41:52 pm
..

Very nice balance of shapes as well as of tonality!

Rob
Title: Re: Part of the VLA in NE ARizona
Post by: Rob C on April 24, 2019, 04:47:06 pm
Part of the VLA in NE ARizona. A very interesting and impressive thing to see along US 60.

Are there legal restrictions to the photography of these structures? I'd love to be there during bad weather, in the relative comfort of a car, and armed with a really long lens. An entire series of film noir stills opens up...

Great subject to find; Photoshop was invented for it!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 24, 2019, 04:48:21 pm
Street at the local tourist magnet. No, seriously, it's called Dutch Venice, because the streets are all canals.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: David Eckels on April 24, 2019, 06:34:04 pm
Thanks, Armand and Rob. Rob, we often go up near there during monsoon season; I'll have to visit during a thunderstorm! 'Course, I could always fake it  ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 25, 2019, 03:38:47 am
From the tulip field.

Well, you know, we had to go see the local tulip fields. Obviously midday harsh sunlit tulipfields. God knows why all the tourists take pictures. It's a testimony to current day technology that the ubiquitous mobile thingies manage to come away with reasonable selfies. It's also interesting to note that those mobile thingies and the elderly have become best friends. Anyways, boring, so the contradictive photographer in me starts to look in the opposite direction as that is usually where you find the interesting pictures of people and audience watching the events that are apparently worth the visit and obscure the carrying and pointing of a camera since everyone carries and points a camera, except in this case everyone is standing deadsmack in the middle of the tulipfields that quickly lost my interest. Another downside of selfies by the way, people always facing the wrong way nowadays.

So that's how even a boring contraption in harsh daylight suddenly caught my interest. And I was standing more or less in the tulipfield, hence: from the tulipfield.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 25, 2019, 03:39:39 pm
Very nice balance of shapes as well as of tonality!

Rob

Thank you!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 26, 2019, 09:15:04 am
I'm gradually forming the opinion that ALL photography is about contrasts. Attractive photography is about contrasts in light and/or contrasts in color, something the average landscape photographer should likely recognise. Meaningful photography is furthermore about contrasts in narrative and/or content.

Not that I managed that here, but as with the rule of thirds: "implication" is a one-way street.
IF it is attractive, THEN it likely represents contrasts.
Not: if it depicts contrasts, then it is attractive.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 27, 2019, 07:45:34 am
I'm gradually forming the opinion that ALL photography is about contrasts. Attractive photography is about contrasts in light and/or contrasts in color, something the average landscape photographer should likely recognise. Meaningful photography is furthermore about contrasts in narrative and/or content.

Not that I managed that here, but as with the rule of thirds: "implication" is a one-way street.
IF it is attractive, THEN it likely represents contrasts.
Not: if it depicts contrasts, then it is attractive.


It's usually the "meaningful" bit that defeats us most of the time, whoever we are.

Pretty is easy, but as with pretty girls, if there's nothing else...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 29, 2019, 11:13:59 am
San Francisco
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 29, 2019, 12:48:04 pm
I had an umbrella, naturally, and it was one of those times I drag myself out with something vaguely specific - (?) - in mind. My jeans got soaked up to the knees with the familiar Scottish drizzle now transported, courtesy climate change, to Mallorca. Sitting in a bar having some coffee half-an-hour later felt strange; perhaps I should just have gone home and taken them off. Having or not having them on at home now makes not a heap of difference. :-(

I was going to call this snap Abbey Road, but I've already done that before with something else.

Anyway, I think I gave myself a cold.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on April 29, 2019, 02:18:07 pm
I had an umbrella, naturally, and it was one of those times I drag myself out with something vaguely specific - (?) - in mind. My jeans got soaked up to the knees with the familiar Scottish drizzle now transported, courtesy climate change, to Mallorca. Sitting in a bar having some coffee half-an-hour later felt strange; perhaps I should just have gone home and taken them off. Having or not having them on at home now makes not a heap of difference. :-(

I was going to call this snap Abbey Road, but I've already done that before with something else.

Anyway, I think I gave myself a cold.

It's not the size of the boat that counts,
It's the skill of the skipper and
the motion of the ocean

Of course, it helps if you actually have a boat and not some surrogate equivalent contraption!?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 29, 2019, 06:24:50 pm
Rob, as I mentioned before, move to America, Florida in particular. No such miserable weather here ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 30, 2019, 04:12:31 am
Rob, as I mentioned before, move to America, Florida in particular. No such miserable weather here ;)

I sat in a Florida hotel watching the storm and lightning scare the hell out of the idea of going out with a metal tripod. Fortunately I don't play golf, but that, apparently is even more dangerous there!

I did note the smiley...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on April 30, 2019, 07:30:17 am
I sat in a Florida hotel watching the storm and lightning scare the hell out of the idea of going out with a metal tripod. Fortunately I don't play golf, but that, apparently is even more dangerous there!

I did note the smiley...

Rob

Very smart man...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 30, 2019, 07:57:02 am
Very smart man...

Peter


Hopefully, you meant on all three counts?

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on April 30, 2019, 05:01:51 pm

Hopefully, you meant on all three counts?

:-)

Rob

It goes without saying...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 30, 2019, 10:17:22 pm
hat
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 01, 2019, 02:43:42 pm
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on May 01, 2019, 05:15:39 pm

Cape Town..

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3397380011-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 01, 2019, 06:15:51 pm
Cape Town..

(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3397380011-5.jpg)

Nice. Tilted by design?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on May 02, 2019, 03:22:56 pm
Armand, ' tilted '? What tilt?

Seriously, though, my carelessness..no excuse.

Thanks and best regards.

Nice. Tilted by design?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on May 05, 2019, 01:27:37 pm
Rocks & fossil (Ammonite) from my local beach at Kilve
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 05, 2019, 04:36:17 pm
Did I mention my birthday is coming up? And that I feel really, really old already?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2019, 04:46:00 am
Oscar, tell it to cheer up: at least it still has all its doors - just.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 10, 2019, 03:07:45 am
Yank enough sliders in Snapseed and a sow's ear becomes ..., well..., I don't know, a sow's ear?

(Yes, I know. I really need to go out and take some decent peoplepictures again, pronto!)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 14, 2019, 07:41:37 am
Reflecting...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 14, 2019, 08:31:00 am
That one works for me.
Good seeing.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 14, 2019, 04:08:13 pm
Reflecting...


Nice one; still trying to work out the left-hand flowers: convinced that I see a pair of little jockeys - okay, really little jockeys - up at the top of the bunch. Or Giacometti ones.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on May 14, 2019, 04:57:22 pm
Pulsatilla vernalis (L.) Mill. Malghera, Western Grosina Valley, Valtellina.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 14, 2019, 05:09:09 pm
Pulsatilla vernalis (L.) Mill. Malghera, Western Grosina Valley, Valtellina.


Really nice one; the drops are so delicate agaist the other textures.

Not critique: I pulled the picture up a bit and realised you have actually got two shots in one: as it is, with the snow/mountain location, and then much tighter where you lose the sense of the location but make more of the flower.

I really can't decide which one I like more.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 14, 2019, 05:14:44 pm
Gonna blame my equipment: D700 with 8/500 cat.

Shame not all longer lenses come with a revolving tripod collar.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 14, 2019, 05:35:55 pm
I bet Adam has finished the bottle by now.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on May 14, 2019, 06:00:15 pm
Thank you Rob. The picture was taken at F/5.6 with the Zeiss Distagon 25 F/2.8 (max magnification ratio 1:2,32). It is a stack of two shots, the first one with the focus point on a water drop (or, more probably, on a stamen/anther) and the second one with the focus point on the violet tepal. I merged the stem of the first one with the flower of the second one.
I have also this single shot picture taken at F/11 (focus point on a stamen) that gives a more definite background and a less isolated flower (My sister prefers it).

P.S. A very cold and rainy/snowy may in Italy this year.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 15, 2019, 03:36:42 am
Thank you Rob. The picture was taken at F/5.6 with the Zeiss Distagon 25 F/2.8 (max magnification ratio 1:2,32). It is a stack of two shots, the first one with the focus point on a water drop (or, more probably, on a stamen/anther) and the second one with the focus point on the violet tepal. I merged the stem of the first one with the flower of the second one.
I have also this single shot picture taken at F/11 (focus point on a stamen) that gives a more definite background and a less isolated flower (My sister prefers it).

P.S. A very cold and rainy/snowy may in Italy this year.

I think I like the first one better; the sense of softness in the background is stronger, yet still tells me about location.

Here in Mallorca it has been strange weather too. I put away the electric heaters last week, but still have the electric blanket on for an hour before going to bed. Very little rain this year, but the wind seems to be cold and there's a lot of it: the car is salt-encrusted and at least it gives me an excuse not to wash it until the weather changes.

That said, it's been sunny for the past few days, hot in the sun and cold in the shade. The only people in shorts are tourists, who probably brought nothing else!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on May 15, 2019, 04:37:24 am
I think I like the first one better; the sense of softness in the background is stronger, yet still tells me about location.

Here in Mallorca it has been strange weather too. I put away the electric heaters last week, but still have the electric blanket on for an hour before gouing to bed. Very little rain this year, but the wind seems to be cold and there's a lot of it: the car is salt-encrusted and at least it gives me an excuse not to wash it until the weather changes.

That said, it's been sunny for the past few days, hot in the sun and cold in the shade. The only people in shorts are tourists, who probably brought nothing else!

Rob

You can always tell a native of Morocco apart from the tourist, the native wears at least two more layers.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 16, 2019, 03:46:37 pm
It was gonna be a Hasselfake, but I can't remember where I put the border. Maybe Mr Trump built over it?

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 16, 2019, 10:50:16 pm
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 17, 2019, 04:16:27 am
The panda's got the right idea!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 23, 2019, 02:39:02 am
Golden oldie: cardealer, that be a Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz near his hand.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on May 23, 2019, 03:45:13 am
Golden oldie: cardealer, that be a Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz near his hand.
I like the light, the colors and the composition.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 24, 2019, 08:32:34 am
Price winning material, obv...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 25, 2019, 04:00:38 am
The backstory to that previous image (https://32bt.wordpress.com/2019/05/25/a-picture-a-day-3/)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 25, 2019, 04:28:21 am
I think the problem with the empty shops and the high rental prices is that the landlords understand that for those kinds of businesses that have closed, there is no way back, regardless of rent levels: people just don't want to shop in shops anymore because they go Internet. If they reduce rents, they lose money because existing businesses that can't go Intenet will then expect to pay less too, and as there are fewer of them...

Personally, I think it, Internet buying, sucks. I hate spending without first seeing what I am buying.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 25, 2019, 05:02:17 am
I think the problem with the empty shops and the high rental prices is that the landlords understand that for those kinds of businesses that have closed, there is no way back, regardless of rent levels: people just don't want to shop in shops anymore because they go Internet. If they reduce rents, they lose money because existing businesses that can't go Intenet will then expect to pay less too, and as there are fewer of them...

Personally, I think it, Internet buying, sucks. I hate spending without first seeing what I am buying.

What I can't figure out though is this: if you can afford 30% vacancies, you apparently run on more than 30% margin. Considering the average store runs on a 3% margin or less, it is clear that something is significantly skewed. I recently watched a movie "The Founder" which features a brilliant Michel Keaton in a story about the history of McDonalds. The movie depicts several very interesting insights. Amongst others the take away was that the real estate where hamburgers are sold is more important than the franchise business itself, and that was eventually key to the success of the founder and his more or less hostile takeover. Obviously a strategy suggested by some shrewd legal administrative type.


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 25, 2019, 06:24:31 am
What I can't figure out though is this: if you can afford 30% vacancies, you apparently run on more than 30% margin. Considering the average store runs on a 3% margin or less, it is clear that something is significantly skewed. I recently watched a movie "The Founder" which features a brilliant Michel Keaton in a story about the history of McDonalds. The movie depicts several very interesting insights. Amongst others the take away was that the real estate where hamburgers are sold is more important than the franchise business itself, and that was eventually key to the success of the founder and his more or less hostile takeover. Obviously a strategy suggested by some shrewd legal administrative type.


I'm not sure about your 3% figure.

When I was doing fashion for big stores, I gathered from some that they sold at 100% markup, which was why they were able to offer "sales" at 30% discounts etc. and not lose money. Sure, they have staff, rents, local taxes and all the additional costs to pay out of that, so it all becomes a bit of a quagmire and a glory pool for the bean counters.

If we were but able to dig into some of the recent scandals surrounding the British High Street fashion industry, then I'm sure it would end up giving us permanently raised eyebrows. When you have owners domiciled in Monaco, with massive yachts, then it would seem pretty convincing that shops pay - somehow! Even of the businesses can get sold for £1.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 25, 2019, 07:15:50 am

I'm not sure about your 3% figure.

When I was doing fashion for big stores...


That be pre internet and pre crisis figures, Rob. You'd probably be right. I vaguely recall a rule of thumb: you need to sell at about 3x purchase price, and account for about 2.5x costs, which would suggest about 20% margin pretax. 

But I am absolutely certain that currently catering is running at between 1% and 3%, and I am fairly sure retail in general no longer makes more than 5%. It's notable that the only shops surviving in citycenter are the shops who also own their real estate. It's also notable that the larger household names all go broke, ever since the hedge funds split the retail activities and real estate assets for the unimaginable profit on the latter.

That's probably the true source of those private yachts...


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 25, 2019, 09:33:37 am
Yes, when I did calendars, that was how I figured out quotations: added up everything that I could foresee that the production could cost, and then simply added my percentage on top.

When you broke it down to a per item basis, it still looked reasonable compared with stock calendars, but on my side was the advantage that none of the ones I could find to price as competition involved the complex double-binding system that one of my series had, with the second wiro binding carrying the months, suspended from the bottom of the backing board that ended just below the upper picture section. Expensive, but it allowed the client's clients to change images to mix any picture with any month. That way, if the guy was a bank manager, for example, he could display a headshot if a female client was coming to see him, or a topless number if it was somebody else. It made shooting more interesting, too.

Best of all, for that calendar I was able to access the top of the tree, the guy had no desire that I present a costing breakdown; bottom line was what cut it or killed it.

And that's one of the examples I was thinking about in another thread, when I wrote of chains of coincidence and pure luck playing their part. I met this client because I had been an apprentice in an engineering company, changed direction and moved to their photo department. The chap who was doing the company's PR used to come regularly to the studio to pick up pix and chat with the photo staff. One day, a year or two after I left the company for the commercial world, the same PR man knocked on my studio door. He had also left for private practice and my calendar client-to-be was one of his clients. He introduced me to the chap for me to do some industrial shots for him, and I noted the Pirelli calendar on this man's wall. He was open to it. The rest was personal history for me. Little acorns, and the right place at the right time.

I have told the story before, but for years I had chased my beer client and got absolutely nowhere. One day, out of the blue, I asked my wife if she'd take my portfolio to the company. She had never done any selling in her life, having trained in chemistry. To our mutual surprise, she said okay, and went out one day with my book, and returned to make lunch with an appointment for me with the Marketing Director. Fed us for years! That's not luck? Of course you have to be able to produce the goods, but lots of pros can do that and still get nowhere.

If you watch the William Klein documentary that the BBC made some years ago, there's a moment towards the end when Klein is at a barber's shop in NY and one of the guys says William, you got a good eye! William replies, quietly and honestly, it takes more than that.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 25, 2019, 10:46:37 am
Which brings us back to the nuggets of wisdom in the movie I mentioned. The theme being that perseverance and determination are the key to success. Not talent, as nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Not genius either, as the unrewarded genius is practically a cliché. Certainly not education, as the world is full of educated fools.

And with that we can take it straight to the coffeecorner, I suppose.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 26, 2019, 10:57:38 am
More colorpoetry of the mundane. Or is it street? Since it actually has a street in it? Hasselfake then? Oh, wait, this is without prejudice...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on May 26, 2019, 11:11:35 am
Looks a lot like colordoggerel to me, Oscar.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 26, 2019, 11:58:28 am
Looks a lot like colordoggerel to me, Oscar.

Hehe, well on my way to 50k... (which, incidentally, also rhymes). Now I only need to print BIG for some gravitas and see if the municipal authorities would be interested in livening up citycenter. Would that hurt my chances you think, with them being responsible in either case?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 26, 2019, 12:10:02 pm
Oscar, Hasselfake is perfectly acceptable in WP; that said, you simply must use the borders with the indents, which are de rigueur, or you do not have a genuine fake.

Don't you just love the creatively tautological possibilities of the English language?

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 26, 2019, 12:36:27 pm
Oscar, Hasselfake is perfectly acceptable in WP; that said, you simply must use the borders with the indents, which are de rigueur, or you do not have a genuine fake.

Don't you just love the creatively tautological possibilities of the English language?

;-)

I understand, Rob. There's a certain effort required in mastering the fake, to the point that it becomes a genuine source of artistry itself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Jan_Jansen

(Some french language links at the bottom of the dutch entry)
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Jan_Jansen


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 26, 2019, 01:53:42 pm
I understand, Rob. There's a certain effort required in mastering the fake, to the point that it becomes a genuine source of artistry itself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Jan_Jansen

(Some french language links at the bottom of the dutch entry)
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Jan_Jansen

Indeed; trying to copy the work, from postcards from the local museum, of Vincent van Gogh was my favourite pastime before I found my girlfriend. Had I ever managed to impress a dealer, I would probably have considered myself a successful painter, not an iota of creativity involved!

But even copying was not easy.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 26, 2019, 06:33:18 pm
walk in the park with the camera set to b&w
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 27, 2019, 07:29:51 am
Looks a lot like colordoggerel to me, Oscar.

I've decided I really like that as a genre-definition of sorts.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on May 28, 2019, 09:32:44 am
The mother source of all understanding
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on May 28, 2019, 11:20:43 am
^

Don't understand it at all which is why I like it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on May 28, 2019, 12:24:48 pm
The mother source of all understanding
Nice work, Oscar! The chairs are fabulous. And the mother source that understands is quite intriguing, as is the excellent toning.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 28, 2019, 12:47:12 pm
The mother source of all understanding


Rapsodia Mamaria.

Drove Hunter S. Thompson all the way to Las Vegas.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 28, 2019, 03:53:52 pm
The mother source of all understanding

A Laughing Buddha close-up?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 02, 2019, 12:36:34 pm
More absurdism. Not because this is another picture of a bird on a lantern, but because there really is no meaning behind the image. Although of course everyone's free to make up meaning. I'm pretty much a sucker for Artist statements, despite this being WP. Everything's better than more politics...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on June 02, 2019, 09:14:29 pm
More absurdism. Not because this is another picture of a bird on a lantern, but because there really is no meaning behind the image. Although of course everyone's free to make up meaning. I'm pretty much a sucker for Artist statements, despite this being WP. Everything's better than more politics...
Didn't see the bird until I enlarged the image. I like the juxtaposition of the two lamps before I saw the bird. It now introduces an organic element and makes me think the higher lamp is like a sentinel watching over the bird and lower lamp.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on June 03, 2019, 08:01:46 am
How time flies. It's been about three months since I've perused LuLa, and a lot of very fine images have been posted. Anyway, here are a couple from early April (the white specks everywhere are snowflakes). This is Snyders Shipyard on the LaHave River, NS (quite close to home). Took these snaps while my wife and daughter waited impatiently in the car. "I just need a couple of minutes, max. I promise!"
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on June 03, 2019, 01:01:12 pm
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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3 (Oddities)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 10, 2019, 07:46:06 pm
Looking through a box of old prints from circa 1985, I came upon these. I'm sure I printed them, but I have no recollection of them, and I have no idea what they might be. If you have a clue, please let me know.

I do find them rather interesting.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 10, 2019, 07:54:42 pm
Electronic microscope?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on June 10, 2019, 09:44:36 pm
I'm curious if you figure out what this is
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3 (Oddities)
Post by: degrub on June 10, 2019, 11:35:16 pm
Looking through a box of old prints from circa 1985, I came upon these. I'm sure I printed them, but I have no recollection of them, and I have no idea what they might be. If you have a clue, please let me know.

I do find them rather interesting.

Diatoms ?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on June 10, 2019, 11:36:35 pm
I'm curious if you figure out what this is
Anemone ?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on June 11, 2019, 12:14:58 am
Anemone ?

Nope, not even close  :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on June 11, 2019, 02:46:25 pm
My son at the wonderful age of going on twelve, 2003. This Saturday is his wedding day. It's truly amazing how fast time moves when things are good.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 11, 2019, 04:08:52 pm
Give him our best wishes!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on June 11, 2019, 04:35:35 pm
Give him our best wishes!

Rob

Thank you, Rob...I shall.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3 (Oddities)
Post by: rabanito on June 11, 2019, 05:42:15 pm
Looking through a box of old prints from circa 1985, I came upon these. I'm sure I printed them, but I have no recollection of them, and I have no idea what they might be. If you have a clue, please let me know.

I do find them rather interesting.

Looks like pollen to me
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 12, 2019, 10:58:40 am
Corfu Doll. Nikon Z7, 50mm f1.8 S.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Doll.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 12, 2019, 11:12:48 am
Wow! Great shot, Keith. The light is perfect for the subject.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 12, 2019, 08:00:15 pm
Wow! Great shot, Keith. The light is perfect for the subject.
What Russ said.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3 (Oddities)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 12, 2019, 08:20:55 pm
Electronic microscope?
Looks like pollen to me
I think Rabanito and Slobodan share the prize for solving my mystery images.
I googled pollen micrographs and found a number of images that look very similar to the ones I posted.
Since I don't own an Electron Microscope (and don't even play one on TV), clearly I must have "borrowed" them from someone unknown to me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 13, 2019, 06:26:05 pm
A couple of oldies:
Cheesecloth, and On the Beach.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 13, 2019, 06:27:55 pm
And, for Rajan:
Here is my son in the hooded Icelandic sweater my mother knitted for him when he was little (He's now over 40.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 14, 2019, 03:00:12 am
Russ, Eric, many thanks.

As a side note I have to say I'm really enjoying using the Z7.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 14, 2019, 03:42:15 am
Russ, Eric, many thanks.

As a side note I have to say I'm really enjoying using the Z7.

[ X ] Convert
[    ] Fanboy
[    ] Lost
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 14, 2019, 03:50:32 am
Corfu Doll. Nikon Z7, 50mm f1.8 S.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Doll.jpg)

That one's a bit young for piercing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqoXNmpa80s

It's always somewhere there in the music. We own Radio Caroline (on 199) and Radio Scotland (Pirate) so much.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 14, 2019, 05:27:18 am
[ X ] Convert
[    ] Fanboy
[    ] Lost

Found, yes, converting, yes, but you have permission to shoot me if I ever come across a fanboy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: churly on June 14, 2019, 08:20:49 am
I'm curious if you figure out what this is
A slice of the top of a carrot?  :o
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 14, 2019, 09:10:36 am
That one's a bit young for piercing!

Given the obvious decrepitude I'm sure she's a lot older than you'd think!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 14, 2019, 10:40:49 am
Given the obvious decrepitude I'm sure she's a lot older than you'd think!

Keith, everybody looks young to me.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 14, 2019, 11:51:14 am
An icon
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 14, 2019, 03:14:50 pm
lightbubbles
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 14, 2019, 03:16:04 pm
Rob, I worry about your doctor distance... !?

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 14, 2019, 03:32:29 pm
lightbubbles

Nice one.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 14, 2019, 03:38:07 pm
Rob, I worry about your doctor distance... !?


Don't: I touch lots of wood. I have not forgotten.

Tocando madera is my favourite saying here. It's not my favourite saying anywhere else, but it is here.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rajan Parrikar on June 14, 2019, 04:45:00 pm
And, for Rajan:
Here is my son in the hooded Icelandic sweater my mother knitted for him when he was little (He's now over 40.)

Eric,

Thank you for posting this. What a delightful photo! The sweater is beautiful. I reckon your son treasures both the sweater and the photo.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on June 15, 2019, 09:26:20 am
A slice of the top of a carrot?  :o

Bingo!

I should have said it earlier but forgot.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on June 15, 2019, 10:43:19 am
An icon
With that framing, it looks disturbingly from the 1930's
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 16, 2019, 02:16:13 pm
The cruiseaders [sic]
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on June 16, 2019, 02:42:04 pm
Flowers from the porch. A slow day.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-4nvc227/0/b75c7329/M/JMRO2861%20copy1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-4CC3CsF/0/94fc5255/M/begonia1%20June%2016-%202019%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 16, 2019, 09:48:52 pm
Pretty nice, even if they are sharp.   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 18, 2019, 02:08:30 am
The cruiseaders [sic]

The write-up: A picture a day 9 (https://32bt.wordpress.com/2019/06/18/a-picture-a-day-9/)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 18, 2019, 03:44:55 am
The write-up: A picture a day 9 (https://32bt.wordpress.com/2019/06/18/a-picture-a-day-9/)

You're going to get those poor old boats bombed!

Is there irony in that the KKK burns crosses as might extremists of another belief pattern?

Which may be a good idea. I heard recently that one big tourist liner that docks in Venice produces more toxic gasses than all the cars in Europe put together. Banning one from the oceans may resolve more problems than imagined.

I wonder what's going to happen to all of the nice, big motor yachts that cover the borders of the Mediterranean? They all run on diesel with only little powerboats (fast) using petrol. Fire risk...

True, few of the big ones actually leave their moorings, but still.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 18, 2019, 05:17:48 am
You're going to get those poor old boats bombed!

Is there irony in that the KKK burns crosses as might extremists of another belief pattern?

Which may be a good idea. I heard recently that one big tourist liner that docks in Venice produces more toxic gasses than all the cars in Europe put together. Banning one from the oceans may resolve more problems than imagined.

I wonder what's going to happen to all of the nice, big motor yachts that cover the borders of the Mediterranean? They all run on diesel with only little powerboats (fast) using petrol. Fire risk...

True, few of the big ones actually leave their moorings, but still.

Rob


https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6515-worlds-pollution-hotspots-revealed-from-space/

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 18, 2019, 10:15:29 am
Trowel Face. Nikon Z7, Z 50mm f/1.8 S.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Trowel_Face.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on June 18, 2019, 10:16:44 am
Good seeing, Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 18, 2019, 10:24:37 am
Good seeing, Keith.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on June 18, 2019, 10:32:55 am
+1.
+2

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 18, 2019, 12:27:13 pm
Trowel Face. Nikon Z7, Z 50mm f/1.8 S.

That should tickle the graphicist within...

Did I just make up a new word there? Well, an image like this deserves that, no?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 19, 2019, 03:44:59 am
Thanks, guys.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 20, 2019, 11:11:23 am
Did I mention the hundred year old crane? Well, there...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on June 20, 2019, 05:04:18 pm
The East Lyn, Exmoor
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 21, 2019, 05:43:44 am
Did I mention the hundred year old crane? Well, there...

A new take on Damocles.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 23, 2019, 04:34:41 pm
Candy...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 23, 2019, 05:02:18 pm
Is that a gray body paint?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 23, 2019, 05:07:52 pm
A nood by any name...

Well, your honour, she was asking for it!

What? Three years? What did I do? There must be a mistake!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 25, 2019, 10:48:47 am
Thumbing through the archive (wasting almost as much electricity as Donald's tweets, but safely as it isn't nuclear-sourced), I came upon an oldie I quite liked.

As I haven't shot anything for a long time, pretty much everything is an oldie.

:-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on June 25, 2019, 01:12:39 pm
Thumbing through the archive (wasting almost as much electricity as Donald's tweets, but safely as it isn't nuclear-sourced), I came upon an oldie I quite liked.

As I haven't shot anything for a long time, pretty much everything is an oldie.

:-(

I love this...looks like a southwest adobe home, from a late movie from the fifties. Am I close? :~)

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 25, 2019, 01:24:56 pm
I love this...looks like...

Looks like Rob forgot his glasses ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 25, 2019, 03:36:01 pm
I love this...looks like a southwest adobe home, from a late movie from the fifties. Am I close? :~)

Peter


It's the Monastery of Lluch, up in the Tramuntana mountains in Mallorca... I think it's mostly stone.

8/500mm reflex Nikkor focussed to miss focus. It was quite some time ago - haven't driven up those roads since my eyes required specs for distances. Actually, eyes aside, it's more to do with being single: what's the point going on day-trips and all of these things alone? None. But we got the best out of the island when we could, so there's always that: few regrets of omission.

Part of the appeal to me of shooting with focus off is that, at a certain point, it makes an impression rather than a statement, which is sometimes more pleasing and interesting. I'd never have thought of New Mexico, which sort of makes the point!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 26, 2019, 07:43:55 am
Bit of color fun
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 26, 2019, 08:30:14 am
Bit of color fun


I have always known you to have an educated eye. I don't know whether by schooling or by self, but you have it nonetheless.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 26, 2019, 08:40:17 am

I have always known you to have an educated eye. I don't know whether by schooling or by self, but you have it nonetheless.

Rob

I'm fairly certain from my grandparents mother's side. Grandpa used to be an avid landscape painter, of reasonable standing locally. Grandma having a pretty good feel for language, a poet, but obviously born in the wrong era to actually pursue a career as such. Since I strongly believe that feeling for language and feeling for imagery (as in: visual language) go hand in hand, I probably got the right combination of DNA.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 26, 2019, 09:40:55 am
I'm fairly certain from my grandparents mother's side. Grandpa used to be an avid landscape painter, of reasonable standing locally. Grandma having a pretty good feel for language, a poet, but obviously born in the wrong era to actually pursue a career as such. Since I strongly believe that feeling for language and feeling for imagery (as in: visual language) go hand in hand, I probably got the right combination of DNA.


You have a point. To reduce it to perhaps a simplistic level: the ability to feel emotional differences in words otherwise pretty interchangeable might have a logical continuity in visual thought, too.

Regarding your grandmother: my mother was born out of time as I sometimes feel that I was, too. She should have been afforded the opportunity of university and the pursuit of a literary career. She lived in books. She never got that. Only rich women got the break. Whether women have the greater genetic energy, or simply by virtue of being around more (in days of old they stayed home bringing up the kids) can exert the greater influence, it has always been the females who have impacted my life more strongly. Even my aunt, no blood relationship, was the one whose interest in Vogue and Harper's Bazaar got my young juices flowing fast and irreversibly, thank goodness. Male family has always appeared boring and without that buzz for life. Perhaps that, too, was conditioning. In evolutionary terms, maybe it makes sense that way: dull often means secure and better for family survival. Well, as insecure as my choice always was, at least the kids got to do what their different abilities allowed.

Perhaps we could measure some of the power or otherwise of this by asking ourselves whether, given the career choice again today, we'd do the same thing. If so, maybe it signals predisposition. Which has to be genetic, non?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 26, 2019, 10:06:42 am
You have a point. To reduce it to perhaps a simplistic level: the ability to feel emotional differences in words otherwise pretty interchangeable might have a logical continuity in visual thought, too.

I firmly believe this and this is perhaps one of the prime issues with education these days: the emphasis on systemic thinking, and de-emphasis on emotional breadth. Reduced emotions = reduced languageskills = reduced empathy, with all of the consequences we can see today. It's horrid to think that reduced mental and emotional capacity apparently is favoured in financial success and landing a top job. God knows what will happen next. They used to say Jimmy Carter was a mere peanuts salesman, and he climbed up to become a president. Makes you wonder who could be president in this day and age...

Perhaps we could measure some of the power or otherwise of this by asking ourselves whether, given the career choice again today, we'd do the same thing. If so, maybe it signals predisposition. Which has to be genetic, non?

Here is a question for you (and others here of your generation): were you raised with the idea that a good education is paramount for career opportunity later in life? I am not of your generation, but in my time there was an overemphasis on the economic benefit of educational choices. The systemic thinking applied to the career path which itself would favour systemic thinking as well. Clearly, Pink Floyd (your time?) already saw the future.

In my experience the more successful people in both creative as well as entrepreneurial endeavours, manage to break out of the straightjacket, or never fitted in to begin with.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 26, 2019, 10:13:02 am
I firmly believe this and this is perhaps one of the prime issues with education these days: the emphasis on systemic thinking, and de-emphasis on emotional breadth. Reduced emotions = reduced languageskills = reduced empathy, with all of the consequences we can see today. It's horrid to think that reduced mental and emotional capacity apparently is favoured in financial success and landing a top job. God knows what will happen next. They used to say Jimmy Carter was a mere peanuts salesman, and he climbed up to become a president. Makes you wonder who could be president in this day and age...

Here is a question for you (and others here of your generation): were you raised with the idea that a good education is paramount for career opportunity later in life? I am not of your generation, but in my time there was an overemphasis on the economic benefit of educational choices. The systemic thinking applied to the career path which itself would favour systemic thinking as well. Clearly, Pink Floyd (your time?) already saw the future.

In my experience the more successful people in both creative as well as entrepreneurial endeavours, manage to break out of the straightjacket, or never fitted in to begin with.

How did this happen? There was a response added to the post! Lost, all is in vain!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on June 26, 2019, 02:01:00 pm
Bit of color fun
Oh yes. Excellent.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 29, 2019, 03:59:38 pm
Uneventful day. To the point that you get JMR tendencies.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on June 29, 2019, 10:37:53 pm
Uneventful day. To the point that you get JMR tendencies.
But just think about it, with a slight movement of the camera, you almost unclothed those guys.

I do like the first image. Wonderful juxtaposition of the small and vulnerable with the large and strong.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on June 30, 2019, 11:03:41 am
They have just introduced a new climate deal in my country. They still believe they can jam this little country full of windturbines in order to cover at most 20% of our energy needs, if we're lucky. Behind the wall here is an entire field of solarpanels, because, you know, in order to reduce CO2 you obviously want to cover up any space where a tree might grow...

Fortunately this is WP3 so we may simply enjoy the view, instead of getting political about that CO2 producing energy gone to waste in the distance. I mean, why would you want to innovate the oil & gas industry again? Clearly, those windturbines are already getting right up to speed here...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 30, 2019, 01:38:27 pm
This could almost fit "street" because of the story it tells.

Well observed, Oscar, even if it is beautiful landscape too.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on July 02, 2019, 06:16:32 am
Andromeda polifolia L. (Bog Rosemary), peat bog Paluaccio di Oga, Valtellina.
I have found this page of Iter lapponicum (Lapland journey) where Linnaeus writes (in Swedish and Latin) about this plant.

"Chamaedaphne Buxb. or Erica palustris pendula, fl. petioliolo purp.  was now standing in its highest beauty, decorating the swamp most agreeably. ... As I looked at her, I remembered Andromeda as depicted by poets. ... She was chained in the middle of water. She always stands fixed on some tussock in the wet swamp, as on a rock in the sea. She stands in water up to her knees, up above the root, namely. She is always surrounded by poisonous dragons and animals, i.e. by mean toads and frogs, which here during spring time squirt water upon her while mating. She stands and bows her head down with sorrow. Her capitula florum  [little flower heads] bend down with rosy cheeks, the cheeks turn pale more and more, capitula pallescunt magis magisque, hinc Andromeda dixi,  folliis acutis [the cheeks turn pale more and more, therefore I called her Andromeda with pointed leaves]. She almost lies down, the neck is bare, hinc carneus [therefore fleshy]"

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 02, 2019, 01:57:44 pm
(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Corfu_Cat.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 02, 2019, 02:00:26 pm
Which proves you can take some of it with you when you go!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 02, 2019, 04:21:43 pm
Memories are made of this.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 02, 2019, 05:37:21 pm
We met Errol Brown at a party and had a heated exchange over which way a toilet roll should go on the holder.

Ah, them were the days.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 02, 2019, 05:43:17 pm
We met Errol Brown at a party and had a heated exchange over which way a toilet roll should go on the holder.

Ah, them were the days.

;-)


Bathroom logic advises follow the kitchen: keep the hanging bits away from the walls where they could pick up dampness more concentrated than found just in the air. Especially after boiling anything larger than an egg. Not that I'd advise cooking much in the bathroom, mind you.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 03, 2019, 03:24:59 am

Bathroom logic advises follow the kitchen: keep the hanging bits away from the walls where they could pick up dampness more concentrated than found just in the air. Especially after boiling anything larger than an egg. Not that I'd advise cooking much in the bathroom, mind you.

:-)

Bathroom logic follows the kitchen: if it stinks, it probably shouldn't be there. That includes toilets in bathrooms...

I'm cooking up my best ideas in what you seem to call the bathroom. Never had any trouble with dampness, at least, not on the wall. But then, considering my ideas, I don't think I'll be earning any Michelin stars anytime soon. :-(


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 03, 2019, 03:33:53 am
Speaking of dampness. An old farmbarn. Literally, because the farm and the barn are one large whole. In fact, this might have been the stables at one point in time, as people used to keep their animals in the livingroom for extra heating in the winter. Toiletpaper was non-existing then.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on July 03, 2019, 06:15:25 pm
We met Errol Brown at a party and had a heated exchange over which way a toilet roll should go on the holder.

Ah, them were the days.

;-)

On this question Shaun is absolutely right (IMO)  https://youtu.be/5GWjrzPHkO0?t=55
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 04, 2019, 03:52:24 am
On this question Shaun is absolutely right (IMO)  https://youtu.be/5GWjrzPHkO0?t=55

Spot on.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 04, 2019, 07:27:48 am
Spot on.

Absolutely...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 04, 2019, 04:10:32 pm
As important, height and access to refill.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 06, 2019, 12:12:34 pm
Z7, high on Metaxa.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Metaxa.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 07, 2019, 04:55:45 am
Nice, delicate picture; I was hopìng the gently folded item on the table was a discarded nightie, but I guess it's just the other curtain. ;-(

Beware the brandy, though: it can give you the hangover that makes you abstain forever. But hey, on second thoughts, would have avoided a heart attack perhaps, and a brusk weaning later. It was the only thing I ever remember making my wife badly tipsy. Or perhaps it was her way of getting over our young son sitting in the rear seat with two Page 3 girls as we drove back to the hotel from a delightful dinner al fresco in a square somewhere in Kremasti, Rhodes. And I bet that when he went back to school they wouldn't believe him. Chuck Berry could have penned something about that.

Couldn't beat a photographic life in those days.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 07, 2019, 05:21:30 am
Rob, don't worry, it was not I, but rather the high resolution Z7 that had seemingly partaken.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 07, 2019, 05:45:46 am
Rob, don't worry, it was not I, but rather the high resolution Z7 that had seemingly partaken.

;-)

Treasure it! The last time I could do fades like that was in the wet darkroom using my hands and cardboard! Much more difficult with digital - for me, at least,

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 07, 2019, 06:10:22 am
"Please don't yell and get me my ND filter, quick!"
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 08, 2019, 04:06:18 pm
boarding
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 09, 2019, 09:30:37 pm
Cranes
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 10, 2019, 01:56:23 pm
at the aquarium
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 11, 2019, 10:15:25 pm
Honey, I brought you a present. Forgive me!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 13, 2019, 08:07:12 am
Summer, for me, is a totally dry period of the soul. I wish winter, with some rain, was tomorrow.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 13, 2019, 08:16:36 am
That's a wonderful shot, Rob. Bravo!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 13, 2019, 08:24:52 am
That's a wonderful shot, Rob. Bravo!
+1.
As we have come to expect.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 13, 2019, 02:08:50 pm
Flying Saucer?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 13, 2019, 02:09:34 pm
N.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 13, 2019, 02:10:24 pm
A visual portrait of political discussion on LuLa.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 13, 2019, 02:52:49 pm
A visual portrait of political discussion on LuLa.

That's a lot of brains!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 13, 2019, 03:44:54 pm
That's a lot of brains!

;-)
... all talking aginst each other.    ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 13, 2019, 03:48:52 pm
Summer, for me, is a totally dry period of the soul. I wish winter, with some rain, was tomorrow.

Rob

I wish more pictures from you. Nice and moody. No industrial areas to be explored still? Or what about a picture like you posted, but then with some god honest real people? Where you have lunch for example? And btw not from behind the window like I usually do, which is more for amateurs, like me.

Oh, just because you're in such a great mood, I had one stuffed on my camera still, especially for you. It even was a "real" camera, as in full-frame no less. Well, actually less, because as usual I cropped, but I won't tell Russ if you won't either.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 13, 2019, 03:50:38 pm
A visual portrait of political discussion on LuLa.

Hahahahha, btw you sure it's just the political discussions?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 13, 2019, 06:13:19 pm
Hahahahha, btw you sure it's just the political discussions?
I guess it could also be discussions of which camera is "best," or how many pixels can sit on the head of a pin, or whether or not to crop.   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 13, 2019, 06:26:06 pm
I wish more pictures from you. Nice and moody. No industrial areas to be explored still? Or what about a picture like you posted, but then with some god honest real people? Where you have lunch for example? And btw not from behind the window like I usually do, which is more for amateurs, like me.

Oh, just because you're in such a great mood, I had one stuffed on my camera still, especially for you. It even was a "real" camera, as in full-frame no less. Well, actually less, because as usual I cropped, but I won't tell Russ if you won't either.

That's a great shot! Your terrible secret is safe with me!

If I had real people I would probably not be shooting fake ones. But that said, the fake ones don't hand me a model fee slip! This year I feel the heat has just sapped the energy right out of me, hence the wail for winter's rain.

It's 23:59 and I have just watched a repeat of an old Montalbano story; I feel kinda suspended in mid-air every time I watch him. He is my son's double. I am more aware of that than of anything else that goes down during the production and it leaves me confused, not least because I wish like hell I had access to his restaurants! I am going off my favourite French one: it seems to be ever more crowded and the food less tasty, and just too heavy for summer eating. I get half-way through it and feel I want to go away. It would be a pity,  after all these years since my wife died, because it has become a sort of second home for eating. Maybe it's all in my head, or maybe he's running out of steam too. The heat doesn't help.

That's a penalty of tourism: it takes away anything authentic and fake eventually becomes the norm. But without it, these restaurants would close, because that's what most have to do in the winter, telling its own tale of the local economics. But, in years gone by, there were always places we went to regularly all year round. Either the restaurants now make so much money in summer they don't need the work in winter (though the waiters do!) or there simply isn't the local business anymore to support it all year round. I believe the latter.

You have made me feel guilty not using that camera these days...

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 14, 2019, 07:48:06 am
Fake tan.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rayyan on July 14, 2019, 07:03:36 pm
(https://fursan.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3504472053-6.jpg)

Samarkand, Uzbekistan. From a trip across the Silk Road, July 2019.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 14, 2019, 10:29:13 pm
A visual portrait of political discussion on LuLa.
Both chaos and intricacy and rather eerie Eric. Maybe it is LuLa. But it sure exudes a foreboding of death and decay to me. Maybe I should get out while I can. Evocative and well done!

JE
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 17, 2019, 11:11:23 am
Shot a couple of weeks ago, because Brexit... (The sign reads "For Sale").
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 17, 2019, 01:21:03 pm
Both chaos and intricacy and rather eerie Eric. Maybe it is LuLa. But it sure exudes a foreboding of death and decay to me. Maybe I should get out while I can. Evocative and well done!

JE
Thank you, John.
I have no intention of leaving LuLa, but I'm disappointed that so many members now seem to spend more time posting to the (too many) political threads than they do taking and posting and discussing photography.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 17, 2019, 01:43:10 pm
Shot a couple of weeks ago, because Brexit... (The sign reads "For Sale").


Great graphic and colours, Oscar.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 17, 2019, 03:36:37 pm
Nice graphic.
And that white space is there for you to write in your price for a print.   ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 17, 2019, 03:54:09 pm
Nice graphic.
And that white space is there for you to write in your price for a print.   ;D

Or a nice, big, unmissable signature! There's even "empty" space in the image for one.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 18, 2019, 07:40:08 am
Shot a couple of weeks ago, because Brexit... (The sign reads "For Sale").

The write-up (https://32bt.wordpress.com/2019/07/18/brexit/)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 18, 2019, 07:58:33 am
The write-up (https://32bt.wordpress.com/2019/07/18/brexit/)
Oscar just visited your site. Interesting. Are you really doing a pic a day?

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 18, 2019, 08:06:41 am
Oscar just visited your site. Interesting. Are you really doing a pic a day?

JR

Not technically, like your walk series, but on average probably yes. I need to get more continuity going though in the write-up and publishing.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 18, 2019, 08:52:55 am
The write-up (https://32bt.wordpress.com/2019/07/18/brexit/)
Thanks for the write-up.

I'm glad that we in the U.S.A. don't have to worry about Brexit, at least.
Oh, wait: Trump could decide at any moment to withdraw from the EU!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 18, 2019, 09:04:26 am
Oh, wait: Trump could decide at any moment to withdraw from the EU!!!   ;D

Careful now, Eric, or we might have to ban you temporarily behind a Mexican firewall... Until we renegotiate your terms, of course.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 18, 2019, 11:00:19 am
Careful now, Eric, or we might have to ban you temporarily behind a Mexican firewall... Until we renegotiate your terms, of course.
:D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 18, 2019, 09:17:05 pm
Not technically, like your walk series, but on average probably yes. I need to get more continuity going though in the write-up and publishing.
That's cool. Now I will visit it regularly.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 19, 2019, 07:23:28 am
Thanks for the write-up.

I'm glad that we in the U.S.A. don't have to worry about Brexit, at least.
Oh, wait: Trump could decide at any moment to withdraw from the EU!!!   ;D


Wot? Unilaterally?

:- )
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 19, 2019, 01:46:43 pm

Wot? Unilaterally?

:- )
Of course.
And he might decide to withdraw from the British Empire unilaterally as well. I think that's one of his original ideas that nobody else ever thought of before.   8)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 20, 2019, 09:37:38 am
Of course.
And he might decide to withdraw from the British Empire unilaterally as well.

Does that mean I would have to stop drinking TEA? That's going too damn far...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 20, 2019, 09:53:21 am
Does that mean I would have to stop drinking TEA? That's going too damn far...

Peter
Come join us in Boston Harbor, Peter, and we'll have a Party!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 20, 2019, 10:17:48 am
Boston's too late: by now that tea's stewed!

Have you realised that when India and China decide to get tough they have the T word to deploy? At one fell swoop they could impose a tea sanction and drive some peope into the arms of George Clooney and the ersatz club.

Nothing but shiny gadgets, tiny packets of God-knows-what and all the aroma of a woodwork class.

You have been warned: you have already lost the real cigars, the Persian rugs; is tea gonna be next?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 20, 2019, 10:37:18 am
E tu, Without Prejudice!?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 20, 2019, 10:54:08 am
E tu, Without Prejudice!?


The paucity of writing traffic of late suggests that defectors are defecating defecting left, right and centre.

Oh well, it would be the final push towards making me take up the blessed Nikons again, rather than having something better to do. I simply have no interest in starting over in another pond; I'm relatively at home with the life in this one.

:-( and :-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on July 20, 2019, 11:38:35 am
Et tu, Without Prejudice!?

Quite. Keep politics where it belongs.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 20, 2019, 12:03:24 pm

The paucity of writing traffic of late suggests that defectors are defecating defecting left, right and centre.

Oh well, it would be the final push towards making me take up the blessed Nikons again, rather than having something better to do. I simply have no interest in starting over in another pond; I'm relatively at home with the life in this one.

:-( and :-)

I'm not sure anyone is defecting anywhere, but rather they do have better things to do.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 20, 2019, 02:01:40 pm
Quite. Keep politics where it belongs.

Jeremy


That's not politics Jeremy, that's flat joke.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 20, 2019, 02:02:54 pm
I'm not sure anyone is defecting anywhere, but rather they do have better things to do.

Let's hope you're right!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 20, 2019, 02:13:23 pm
Let's hope you're right!

:-)

It's the Silly Season.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 20, 2019, 02:59:48 pm
It's the Silly Season.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 20, 2019, 03:03:31 pm
Aha! Silly things to do!

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 20, 2019, 03:04:44 pm
It's the Silly Season.

Here in The USA we have embarked on the Silly Decade...


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 20, 2019, 03:14:18 pm
Two pages and 26 replies without a single picture, time to break the spell:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 20, 2019, 03:15:24 pm
Here in The USA we have embarked on the Silly Decade...


Peter


But hey, in 52 minutes or thereabouts, it's Inspector Montalbano again, and more Sicily! I always feel I'm watching my son.

Sadly:

https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/italian/en/article/2019/07/18/author-andrea-camilleri-dies-aged-93-inspector-montalbano-lives

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 20, 2019, 05:39:46 pm
I am devastated to hear of Camilleri's death.
I hope his final Montalbano novel comes out soon (in English).

I will miss the Inspector deeply.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on July 22, 2019, 03:28:28 am
I am devastated to hear of Camilleri's death.
I hope his final Montalbano novel comes out soon (in English).

I will miss the Inspector deeply.

I'll miss him too :-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 22, 2019, 03:40:33 am
I am devastated to hear of Camilleri's death.
I hope his final Montalbano novel comes out soon (in English).

I will miss the Inspector deeply.

A problem with Montalbano is that in Spain it comes on via the BBC at 10p.m., and as the stories run for around two hours, by about two-thirds through I get so sleepy I lose track of which character is which.

The latest one gave me a sense of impending doom: there seemed to be ever less Sicily and more and more interiors, which may indicate a lowering of the budgets which isn't a good sign. I don't think the plots in the shows were all written by the book author but based upon his characters, which indicates that if they continue to sell well, the show could go on.

Much like Bond, then.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 22, 2019, 05:52:05 am
.

I don't think the plots in the shows were all written by the book author but based upon his characters, which indicates that if they continue to sell well, the show could go on.

Much like Bond, then.

OH no. Oh yeah, those later Bond movies....Oh BOY : (

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 22, 2019, 06:18:46 am
Yeah, Bond was pretty good, but Montalbano!!! Wow!!!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 22, 2019, 08:28:51 am
Yeah, Bond was pretty good, but Montalbano!!! Wow!!!


I read a few of the Bond books and didn't think much of them at all. However, I did like some of the girls in the movies, and the cars... especially the little Rootes Alpine. Playboy gave one to the Playmate of the year once, in pink, but it had a big American engine instead of the small UK one.They called it a Tiger, if memory serves. Connery was the best.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 22, 2019, 08:49:20 am
Taking a leaf out of Slobodan's book and getting back to the point of this thread: images.

Peace

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Peace.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 22, 2019, 09:10:16 am
Peace and poverty.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 22, 2019, 09:17:49 am
Peace and poverty.

Poverty and the Sadhu is a matter of choice, relinquishing as they do their wordly goods.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on July 22, 2019, 09:21:26 am
Fair enough, Keith. I'm sure there are compensations.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 22, 2019, 11:51:03 am
I gave up my yacht in Monaco when I became a photographer.

Photography was the compensation. Believe that, you'll believe Barbie comes for tea.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 22, 2019, 01:14:18 pm
Taking a leaf out of Slobodan's book and getting back to the point of this thread: images.

Peace

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Peace.jpg)
Another fine image, Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 22, 2019, 05:08:02 pm
Thank you, Eric. May the peace be with you.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 22, 2019, 07:08:33 pm
And with you, Keith!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on July 23, 2019, 03:34:25 am
Taking a leaf out of Slobodan's book and getting back to the point of this thread: images.

Good Lord - a photograph!

A good one, too.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 23, 2019, 04:03:23 am
Thank you, Jeremy.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 23, 2019, 08:29:03 am
I'll risk uploading another photograph. 4 Generations.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/4_Generations.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 23, 2019, 08:36:24 am
I'll risk uploading another photograph. 4 Generations.

Keith, as always, love your color awareness. Great photo and wonderful content.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 23, 2019, 08:47:19 am
Keith, as always, love your color awareness. Great photo and wonderful content.

Peter
Exactly.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 23, 2019, 02:43:25 pm
Today's walk produced this #shotoniphone:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 23, 2019, 03:14:31 pm
Keith, as always, love your color awareness. Great photo and wonderful content.

Peter
Superb color images Keith.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 23, 2019, 03:29:23 pm
Today's walk produced this #shotoniphone:
He's glowering at you because he sees that you aren't using a Real Camera.   :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 23, 2019, 05:06:21 pm
Thanks, guys, but really it is the ladies of Jodhpur who deserve the plaudits.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 23, 2019, 05:32:43 pm
Today's walk produced this #shotoniphone:

Great camouflage...  ???
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 23, 2019, 05:35:26 pm
Of depleting oil reserves and a new energy regime.

The Hydrogen Economy.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 24, 2019, 04:15:33 pm
Of depleting oil reserves and a new energy regime.

The Hydrogen Economy.

The black border is a part of the message?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 24, 2019, 08:25:15 pm
The black border is a part of the message?

The byproduct of the Hydrogen fuel cell is pure H2O. That's has always been intriguing to me...we can drink our waste.


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 25, 2019, 01:07:24 am
The black border is a part of the message?

LoL, for such a color sensitive person, you really have black humor, no?

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on July 25, 2019, 01:30:54 am
The byproduct of the Hydrogen fuel cell is pure H2O. That's has always been intriguing to me...we can drink our waste.

Interestingly enough, while you can drink it, the purity is actually a problem. You'd just be washing out nutrients from your body when drinking it. So, you do need to be careful.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 25, 2019, 04:27:03 am
LoL, for such a color sensitive person, you really have black humor, no?

You've only got to take a look in number 10 to understand it is a national trait.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on July 25, 2019, 09:00:15 am
Downing street ? ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 25, 2019, 10:47:47 am
You've only got to take a look in number 10...

But, but, he is a blonde, your type, no ? ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 25, 2019, 12:04:21 pm
But, but, he is a blonde, your type, no ? ;)

But unfortunately the wrong sex.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 25, 2019, 01:20:23 pm
She, however...

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Goat.jpg)

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 26, 2019, 06:11:25 am
She, however...

:-)


She, however, will give you the pox and then get you arrested - in that order.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 26, 2019, 06:32:20 am

She, however, will give you the pox and then get you arrested - in that order.

;-)

And divorced.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 26, 2019, 08:58:19 am
And divorced.

;-)

That may be doubtful: there would be no "other woman" to cite... good lawyers, however, might have an opportunity for writing new case law.

Jeremy? What would give?

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on July 26, 2019, 09:02:12 am
That may be doubtful: there would be no "other woman" to cite... good lawyers, however, might have an opportunity for writing new case law.

Jeremy? What would give?

:-)

Don't ask Jeremy, he's into monkeys!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 26, 2019, 09:04:36 am
Don't ask Jeremy, he's into monkeys!

;-)

;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 26, 2019, 04:06:22 pm
Boat blues.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 26, 2019, 09:53:55 pm
Love it!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: mbaginy on July 27, 2019, 05:07:40 pm
Love the blue, Robs
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 28, 2019, 07:16:46 am
Rise and shine.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Autumn-Images-2012/i-wDRLhch/0/a4f183c1/L/oxtonge-ragged%20rapids%20006%20copy1000-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on July 28, 2019, 12:25:49 pm
Rise and shine...

Unless...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48390886742_8b6e5010be_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gJ8WHu)
Storm Over Miami II (https://flic.kr/p/2gJ8WHu) by Slobodan Blagojevic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/slobodan_blagojevic/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: mbaginy on July 28, 2019, 02:24:04 pm
A beautifully dramatic shot, Slobodan.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on July 28, 2019, 02:37:12 pm
A beautifully dramatic shot, Slobodan.

It is. John R's was peacefully moody; this is certainly not peaceful!

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 28, 2019, 05:22:41 pm
That's one of the nice things about skies: They can have many moods, often spectacular.

Nice one, Slobodan.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on July 28, 2019, 07:16:37 pm
Unless...

Storm Over Miami II[/url] by Slobodan Blagojevic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/slobodan_blagojevic/), on Flickr
Come on Slobodan, it's just a thunderhead. You have your umbrella right? Nice shot.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 29, 2019, 12:24:24 pm
Waiting to be fixed
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 29, 2019, 03:20:49 pm
That mother's really hungry!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 29, 2019, 11:35:03 pm
That mother's really hungry!
+1.
I really like this one.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 30, 2019, 09:10:52 am
Harbour light.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 30, 2019, 09:48:49 am
Harbour light.

Rob
And this.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on July 30, 2019, 12:50:05 pm
Harbour light.

Rob

Wonderfully graphic!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 30, 2019, 01:31:44 pm
google translate?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 30, 2019, 02:15:39 pm
Great balance of planes!

Dr Google explains everything. Trouble is, sometimes he tells you different things for the same question.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 30, 2019, 02:21:02 pm
Great balance of planes!

Dr Google explains everything. Trouble is, sometimes he tells you different things for the same question.

:-)

Thank you! Makes me feel I didn't lose the time spent deciding on where to crop.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on July 30, 2019, 02:28:21 pm
Thank you, Eric and Peter; it's a problem, really, that I find verticals make for interesting shots more often than horizontals. Problem, because I find the camera less easy to manipulate in the vertical hold. (Now I sound like an old tv engineer.)

The Lindbergh hold would be great if the camera only had a second shutter button low on the side, and that was what was nice about the Nikon F4s setup.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on July 31, 2019, 01:13:03 pm
Dr Google explains everything. Trouble is, sometimes he tells you different things for the same question.

Reminds me of the old line about economics exams: the questions are always the same but the answers change each year.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 31, 2019, 05:45:54 pm
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 31, 2019, 07:43:50 pm
..
Love it!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 01, 2019, 10:35:08 am
Love it!

Thank you
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 01, 2019, 10:39:14 am
Curtain
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 01, 2019, 10:53:05 am
Armand the vampire slayer!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on August 01, 2019, 12:38:49 pm
Last two images are pretty cool Armand. Especially like the window image. It invite the light and air in and the viewer to go outside.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 02, 2019, 12:08:30 pm
Armand the vampire slayer!

:-)

Funny, this was shot in Romania.

Last two images are pretty cool Armand. Especially like the window image. It invite the light and air in and the viewer to go outside.

JR

Thank you
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 02, 2019, 12:09:37 pm
Well connected
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 02, 2019, 12:33:00 pm
I bet he's got a PC in that nest.   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on August 02, 2019, 01:06:19 pm
Bet it is an eye-pad.. 8)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 02, 2019, 04:15:20 pm
Had a few minutes to spare and the sunset was nice so I decided to shoot this pano, in Stockholm.

Details is quite good, highlights are less preserved though (those Swedish street lights were way too powerful, it would have required more than 3-4 stops shorter exposure to get them close to the limits of the sensor)

PS. looking better I think the problematic "street lights" were intended for the ships   ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 03, 2019, 10:44:35 am
Kids these days:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 04, 2019, 07:41:44 am
golden window
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 04, 2019, 10:20:42 pm
sweet dreams
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 06, 2019, 11:15:34 am
Dusk
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 09, 2019, 03:30:58 am
Pffff, Da Beat took a cat picture. Can you imagine?

A cat in full domestic camouflage, which did make him wonder about evolution. Do we really breed those color varieties because we like them? Because they fit our domestic environment? We happen to like our homes nice and tidy in the Netherlands. With neat, unremarkable colorschemes, everything singularly flat, teetering on the edge of dull.

And that's okay. It keeps a bunch of people cramped together on too little space from continuously annoying each other. But I always secretly wish for that true grand dame wearing a bright red dress, stepping out of her equally bright red Italian convertible, and with an actual panther following in her footsteps. For her it's like walking the dog. In full control of the predator.

In the Netherlands we control our predators differently. They build and paint homes and houses in unremarkably flat singular colorschemes, never any excesses, and by consequence, our cats have become equally dull. Metaphorically enough?


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 09, 2019, 10:38:48 am
Oscar = Eggleston 2.0?

For some reason, I enjoy your writing slightly more than your photographs (not a criticism of them, though)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 09, 2019, 01:10:40 pm
Oscar = Eggleston 2.0?

For some reason, I enjoy your writing slightly more than your photographs (not a criticism of them, though)

Haha, thanks, I suppose... =:-\
(A good thing you added that last bit, considering what my high-school teacher thought of my writings back in the days!)

Considering the average saturation of colors in this country btw, you would probably not know how quickly to grab your cc for a one way ticket to Cuba. On the other hand, it may explain the popularity of the infamous coffeeshop: it's the local's solution for a more colorful view...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 09, 2019, 01:52:44 pm
... Considering the average saturation of colors in this country btw, you would probably not know how quickly to grab your cc for a one way ticket to Cuba. On the other hand, it may explain the popularity of the infamous coffeeshop: it's the local's solution for a more colorful view...

In some other countries, sun provides that colorful view. In this case, Nicosia, Cyprus, where a sunset gives an otherwise pure white building a lovely orange/pink hues:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 12, 2019, 08:11:45 pm
Storks
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 13, 2019, 07:58:49 pm
It was windy at the beach
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 14, 2019, 07:21:31 pm
beach2
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 15, 2019, 07:34:03 pm
Pictured Rocks
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 17, 2019, 05:15:01 pm
the road
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 17, 2019, 05:18:18 pm
A Storm is Coming:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on August 18, 2019, 05:33:53 am
A simplistic image of a church to represent everything that's wrong with simplistic believe-systems in general (and religious believes in particular). A bleak outlook of life between opposing forces represented as complementary colors, with the light from above illuminating the red tiles of the roof, and the green grass in the shade below.

Now notice the colors of the doors...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 18, 2019, 06:15:55 am
A simplistic image of a church to represent everything that's wrong with simplistic believe-systems in general (and religious believes in particular). A bleak outlook of life between opposing forces represented as complementary colors, with the light from above illuminating the red tiles of the roof, and the green grass in the shade below.

Now notice the colors of the doors...

That's a great portrait, Oscar! Maybe a little fill light on the eyes?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 18, 2019, 06:19:51 am
Pffff, Da Beat took a cat picture. Can you imagine?

A cat in full domestic camouflage, which did make him wonder about evolution. Do we really breed those color varieties because we like them? Because they fit our domestic environment? We happen to like our homes nice and tidy in the Netherlands. With neat, unremarkable colorschemes, everything singularly flat, teetering on the edge of dull.

And that's okay. It keeps a bunch of people cramped together on too little space from continuously annoying each other. But I always secretly wish for that true grand dame wearing a bright red dress, stepping out of her equally bright red Italian convertible, and with an actual panther following in her footsteps. For her it's like walking the dog. In full control of the predator.

In the Netherlands we control our predators differently. They build and paint homes and houses in unremarkably flat singular colorschemes, never any excesses, and by consequence, our cats have become equally dull. Metaphorically enough?

Are you certain there isn't a little bit of Milano inside you?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: drmike on August 18, 2019, 06:53:39 am
A Storm is Coming:

Be patient with me Slobodan. I know you are very careful with your shots so - do you think it's important that the tree leaves touch the patterned wall or is that just serendipity?

Mike
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on August 18, 2019, 10:18:22 am
Be patient with me Slobodan. I know you are very careful with your shots so - do you think it's important that the tree leaves touch the patterned wall or is that just serendipity?

Not sure. Not something I paid attention to during the shoot. It is an iPhone shot, so not easy to see such details. Given the nature of modern social media posting, it also, more often than not, goes straight from the phone to social media. Had I brought it to the desktop, I might have noticed it. In which case it would’ve been easy to clone it out. Then again, not sure it matters that much. Does it bother you? I mean, there are certain things only photographers would notice and be bothered with. I am not trying to be confrontational, these are genuine questions.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 18, 2019, 01:43:03 pm
It doesn't bother me at all.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 18, 2019, 01:46:33 pm
It doesn't bother me at all.

As the actress said to the bishop.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: drmike on August 18, 2019, 02:14:58 pm
Not sure. Not something I paid attention to during the shoot. It is an iPhone shot, so not easy to see such details. Given the nature of modern social media posting, it also, more often than not, goes straight from the phone to social media. Had I brought it to the desktop, I might have noticed it. In which case it would’ve been easy to clone it out. Then again, not sure it matters that much. Does it bother you? I mean, there are certain things only photographers would notice and be bothered with. I am not trying to be confrontational, these are genuine questions.

I'm quite interested in other photographers approach to details like this. Some seem to obsess over these details while others really can't see the point. In this case I don't think it's worth bothering about although it does add a bridge between two major elements. Of course a lot of this is subliminal you don't really see it but it's there.

As you say very easily fixed in post processing if you don't want them to touch.

So, I appreciate your reply and it's not at all confrontational.

Mike
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 18, 2019, 04:26:50 pm
Slow motion - when I let the sharpness go
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 18, 2019, 04:47:52 pm
I like the big splash in the first.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 18, 2019, 10:44:12 pm
pond
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 26, 2019, 12:22:27 pm
plant
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 27, 2019, 03:34:07 pm
Little family:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on August 27, 2019, 04:03:22 pm
Little family:

Soft, quiet, evocative in a strong union...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 27, 2019, 04:52:27 pm
red
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 28, 2019, 03:27:52 pm
storm in the city
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: EricV on August 28, 2019, 03:43:11 pm
If you crop #2 to include just a thin strip of foreground hills, it becomes pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 28, 2019, 05:28:39 pm
If you crop #2 to include just a thin strip of foreground hills, it becomes pretty impressive.

You're probably relatively new to this section of the forum; Without Prejudice was specially designed as a unique space where critique is not welcomed. In other words, people can post images without other people telling them how they might "do it better".

You may, of course, say you like or dislike something or, simply, ignore it, but second-guessing is not wanted.

Just the way this is in this special slot.

Thanks -

Rob C
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 28, 2019, 05:32:51 pm
If you crop #2 to include just a thin strip of foreground hills, it becomes pretty impressive.
I agree.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on August 29, 2019, 03:00:08 pm
I agree.

Naughty boy!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 31, 2019, 07:03:53 pm
Dusk
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 03, 2019, 11:08:19 am
Dusk 2
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 04, 2019, 12:45:45 am
after rain
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 05, 2019, 04:15:39 pm
The Crossing
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on September 05, 2019, 04:42:00 pm
O, I like the direction of your recent work.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 05, 2019, 06:07:24 pm
O, I like the direction of your recent work.
Yes.
You invite viewers to think. (Which is good.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on September 05, 2019, 08:52:47 pm
Yes.
You invite viewers to think. (Which is good.)
My thoughts exactly. But Oscar, I don't see this image on your website. How will the world know if only LuLa sees it :)

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 13, 2019, 11:47:12 am
Absolution
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Patricia Sheley on September 13, 2019, 11:03:56 pm
~
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 13, 2019, 11:21:33 pm
Great Maine sky, Patricia!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 14, 2019, 03:58:08 am
The Crossing

Best recent argument for 6x6!

Makes me so sad... just like rural France.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 15, 2019, 03:50:44 pm
They are still in business; probably too busy to do their own stuff.

Irony of the tourism business.

;-)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 15, 2019, 05:20:14 pm
Absolution


Better known through movies than personal experience. Maybe it would be better the other way around? (No, the sense, not the image which is perfectly balanced as it is.)

Either way, a good catch and clever interpretation!

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 16, 2019, 12:33:21 pm
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 16, 2019, 02:14:29 pm
..

Very enigmatic!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 17, 2019, 10:49:13 am
Thank you!

This one is less enigmatic
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 18, 2019, 04:05:48 pm
return to the base
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 19, 2019, 07:09:35 pm
walk
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 21, 2019, 11:47:38 am
4 stories
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 24, 2019, 07:07:03 pm
runners
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 25, 2019, 01:09:09 pm
focused
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 25, 2019, 01:33:31 pm
Good catch.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on September 26, 2019, 11:13:35 am
focused
Armand, not sure what you did to this image, but I do like the natural focus on the couple in the crowd. If you reduced the brightness of the area around the couple, like a vignette, then I would reduce the brightness even more of the two guys immediately behind the couple and the guy eating on the right, to the mid crowd level so as to retain a natural look.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 26, 2019, 02:24:16 pm
Armand, not sure what you did to this image, but I do like the natural focus on the couple in the crowd. If you reduced the brightness of the area around the couple, like a vignette, then I would reduce the brightness even more of the two guys immediately behind the couple and the guy eating on the right, to the mid crowd level so as to retain a natural look.

JR

JOHN!

This is WP.

No second-guessing welcome.

;-(

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 27, 2019, 12:01:44 am
I'm ok with critique even here; I don't particularly ask for it but it's welcomed on my part.



Armand, not sure what you did to this image, but I do like the natural focus on the couple in the crowd. If you reduced the brightness of the area around the couple, like a vignette, then I would reduce the brightness even more of the two guys immediately behind the couple and the guy eating on the right, to the mid crowd level so as to retain a natural look.

JR

I played a little with the brightness to draw attention to the couple but I tried not to make it too obvious.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 27, 2019, 03:31:45 am
I'm ok with critique even here; I don't particularly ask for it but it's welcomed on my part.



I played a little with the brightness to draw attention to the couple but I tried not to make it too obvious.

You may be, but the point remains: this section was created specifically as a place for people to post when they do not want critique.

Perhaps you can post such images here when that's your feeling too, and in all the other sections of LuLa, where there are no such expectations of respect, when you are open to critique.

Please do not mess with an established norm that works very well for those for whom it is designed.

Rob

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on September 27, 2019, 08:19:06 am
I'm ok with critique even here; I don't particularly ask for it but it's welcomed on my part.



I played a little with the brightness to draw attention to the couple but I tried not to make it too obvious.
Sorry, I forgot. I like the image but carried away.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on September 27, 2019, 09:11:31 am
It's a fine shot just as it is, Armand. If you follow John's suggestion too aggressively you'll end up with an abrupt transition that'll be jarring and give away the trick. As it is the couple stands out just enough to grab your eye. Enough is enough.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 27, 2019, 11:09:41 am
It's a fine shot just as it is, Armand. If you follow John's suggestion too aggressively you'll end up with an abrupt transition that'll be jarring and give away the trick. As it is the couple stands out just enough to grab your eye. Enough is enough.

Is very often good advice!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 27, 2019, 11:11:26 am
Sorry, I forgot. I like the image but carried away.

JR

Don't worry, John, you are by no means the first person to forget the distinction and probably won't be the last!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on September 28, 2019, 04:50:52 am
Nine Lives Lost.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Nine_Lives_Lost.jpg)

For those who are interested in such things, Nikon Z7, 50mm S, ISO 64, f/1.8 @ 1/30 sec.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 28, 2019, 05:29:26 am
Interestingly, Keith, that 50S of yours looks to be almost as good as my own 1.8/50mm G!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: 32BT on September 29, 2019, 12:33:25 am
Nine Lives Lost.

For those who are interested in such things, Nikon Z7, 50mm S, ISO 64, f/1.8 @ 1/30 sec.


I recall you shot this subject before. Prior to the Nikon. Would be interesting to compare. I for one, think that this looks absolutely horrendous, and I'm not talking about the subject, but about the rendition. No, Rob, this is not a critique. This is an evaluation of the lensdrawing, which, in this image is just utterly horrible. There is some kind of weird halo around the tail and back. This may not actually be the lens btw, but perhaps the postprocessing sharpning. This may also explain the rather deteriorating focused drawing, which has the type of ringing one used to see in old Canon files trying to overcome an antialiasing filter. Then the curvature in the lenses' field of focus is disorienting.

I know this lens is sharp and should have a good oof drawing, so something is wrong. ( <--- See, Rob, evaluation, not critique).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on September 29, 2019, 04:00:19 am

I recall you shot this subject before. Prior to the Nikon. Would be interesting to compare. I for one, think that this looks absolutely horrendous, and I'm not talking about the subject, but about the rendition. No, Rob, this is not a critique. This is an evaluation of the lensdrawing, which, in this image is just utterly horrible. There is some kind of weird halo around the tail and back. This may not actually be the lens btw, but perhaps the postprocessing sharpning. This may also explain the rather deteriorating focused drawing, which has the type of ringing one used to see in old Canon files trying to overcome an antialiasing filter. Then the curvature in the lenses' field of focus is disorienting.

I know this lens is sharp and should have a good oof drawing, so something is wrong. ( <--- See, Rob, evaluation, not critique).

O, different subject entirely, but you're obviously paying attention, it's the post, not the rendering of the lens.

Call me perverse, but just occasionally I throw all caution to the wind, ditch conventional photographic wisdom and just revel in the horrendous: both subject and rendering.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 29, 2019, 07:53:32 am
O, different subject entirely, but you're obviously paying attention, it's the post, not the rendering of the lens.

Call me perverse, but just occasionally I throw all caution to the wind, ditch conventional photographic wisdom and just revel in the horrendous: both subject and rendering.


Closer to home, then:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacombs_of_Paris

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on September 30, 2019, 10:55:17 am

Closer to home, then:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacombs_of_Paris

:-)

If you really want to cry. Joel Peter Witkin  If you dare...

https://www.google.com/search?q=joel+peter+witkin+photos&oq=joel+peter+&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.7720j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on September 30, 2019, 04:35:49 pm
Summer's still hanging on in, there:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on September 30, 2019, 04:44:43 pm
Glamour Wall.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Glamour_Wall2.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 01, 2019, 02:25:42 pm
Wedding Art.


Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 01, 2019, 02:33:38 pm
Nine Lives Lost.

For those who are interested in such things, Nikon Z7, 50mm S, ISO 64, f/1.8 @ 1/30 sec.
Quite the image. Disconcerting but well done all the same!!

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 01, 2019, 02:48:23 pm
Quite the image. Disconcerting but well done all the same!!

JR

Thanks, John.

Disconcerting, certainly, particularly as I'm very fond of cats!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 01, 2019, 03:30:28 pm
tropical
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 01, 2019, 04:03:36 pm
tropical

Like that very much.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 01, 2019, 04:13:16 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 02, 2019, 11:58:42 am
Thank you!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 02, 2019, 12:02:27 pm
dizzy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 02, 2019, 01:14:04 pm
dizzy
Wild! I like it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 02, 2019, 05:44:58 pm
We're really getting some photography here. Well done!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chris Kern on October 02, 2019, 09:12:21 pm
Trying out a new (16-80mm f/4) Fuji lens after dinner the other night in Rockville, Maryland's Ginza district:

(1) The Price of Gas
(2) Xi’an Gourmet
(3) Liquor ⨀ Wine
(4) V-Power Nitro+
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 02, 2019, 10:00:34 pm
Wild! I like it.

We're really getting some photography here. Well done!

Thank you!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 02, 2019, 10:01:47 pm
Trying out a new (16-80mm f/4) Fuji lens after dinner the other night in Rockville, Maryland's Ginza district:

(1) The Price of Gas
(2) Xi’an Gourmet
(3) Liquor ⨀ Wine
(4) V-Power Nitro+

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this lens, I've been waiting for it it for years but now I'm not so sure (more like I'm trying to set on a system instead of 3).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chris Kern on October 02, 2019, 10:24:01 pm
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this lens, I've been waiting for it it for years but now I'm not so sure (more like I'm trying to set on a system instead of 3).

I've just had it for two days, and haven't had an opportunity to give it much of a workout other than that one walk home after dinner the other night, but my initial impressions are favorable: it's sharp, even at f/4, with good color and contrast, and low distortion at the wide end (although Lightroom automagically applies Fuji's lens correction metadata, which no doubt masks any underlying optical distortion).  Autofocus on an X-T3 seems both fast and accurate.  It's reasonably light and quite compact: not much larger than Fuji's 18-55mm "kit" lens.  One quirk: there is no control on the barrel to disable the image stabilization—if you want to do that you need to use the camera menu—apparently because Fuji doesn't consider it necessary ever to turn it off; the company recommends using stabilization even when the camera is on a tripod.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 02, 2019, 11:25:07 pm
Chris,
I really like this set of "test" photos.
The best of the bunch is the second, for me.

And i guess the lens is pretty good, too.   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chris Kern on October 03, 2019, 03:06:33 pm
I really like this set of "test" photos.

Thanks.

Since I switched from DSLRs to mirrorless cameras, I've become rather lazy about testing a new lens in order to verify that I don't have a bad sample.  For this one, I shot some foliage in my back yard at various focal lengths and apertures, and examined the centers and corners for accurate autofocus and sharpness, then tried some indoor shots at the maximum aperture and, again, various focal lengths, to determine whether the lens was focusing where I expected at closer range and to examine the quality of the bokeh.  Since everything looked okay, I took it out that night and made the four images I posted earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 03, 2019, 04:08:42 pm
in the neighborhood
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 04, 2019, 02:39:33 pm
I once saw a group of twenty-somethings doubled up in stitches as a male member tried to leapfrog one of these posts that were originally placed on a pedestrian track to discourage bikes.

I was walking towards them as he attempted his athletic number, but didn't seem to realise that two palms placed on a small, sloped area of old wood are bound to part under the load. And they did. Ouch. The most hysterical friend? A girl who couldn't stop laughing.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 04, 2019, 04:24:53 pm
You could call that event a classic phallic phail, er. fail.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 05, 2019, 07:04:09 am
You could call that event a classic phallic phail, er. fail.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 05, 2019, 07:05:04 am
Local landscape:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 05, 2019, 07:55:20 am
Wow. Love it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 05, 2019, 08:37:21 am
"Field of dreams."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chris Kern on October 05, 2019, 06:42:25 pm
Orchid in a Niche
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: drmike on October 06, 2019, 02:35:38 am
I'm pretty sure my monitor isn't doing the delicacy of this shot justice. (Long live the print!)

It's lovely.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 06, 2019, 03:57:39 am
I'm pretty sure my monitor isn't doing the delicacy of this shot justice. (Long live the print!)

It's lovely.

Isn't it!

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 06, 2019, 05:54:11 am
Isn't it!

Rob
Yes, lovely.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 06, 2019, 08:38:51 am
Yes, lovely.

JR
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chris Kern on October 06, 2019, 09:49:02 am
My wife's rather Delphic judgment: "Hmm.  Looks very Japanesey."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on October 06, 2019, 11:15:46 am
My wife's rather Delphic judgment: "Hmm.  Looks very Japanesey."

That too!!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 07, 2019, 02:23:42 pm
Friday at lunch in little France, Mallorca:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 07, 2019, 03:27:22 pm
Yes!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 07, 2019, 05:49:34 pm
You never fail to charm, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 08, 2019, 03:48:24 am
Thanks for the kind remarks.

As I was shooting this, one of the the waiters walked past and shook me with a question to the effect of what did I prefer: film or digial? That came as a surprise, and it ended up with him telling me that he and his wife met at college when both were studying to be photographers. He had a business on the mainland for a while. He's the second waiter I now know who was into photography: the first one, who got me into digital, never did manage to become pro, and this new one did for a while. So many casualties on this path.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 08, 2019, 08:50:26 am
Made me think again of poor, neglected Ms Coke:

:-)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 08, 2019, 09:14:43 am
Ah, the future for pro photographers: Waiter, Cab driver, ...   :'(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 08, 2019, 09:27:12 am
Ah, the future for pro photographers: Waiter, Cab driver, ...   :'(
 

Whoever imagined we'd end up envying buggy-whip makers! Or owners of Indian motorbikes.

Incidentally, if you want a Royal Enfield, try your luck with the other India, the country; they make 'em yet!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 08, 2019, 10:08:00 am
 

Whoever imagined we'd end up envying buggy-whip makers! Or owners of Indian motorbikes.

Incidentally, if you want a Royal Enfield, try your luck with the other India, the country; they make 'em yet!

350 and 500 Bullets everywhere. Earlier in the year we were even fortunate enough to witness a rally consisting of Bullet owners from all over the world gathering at our haveli in Jodhpur.

Quite a thrill for a former Enfield owner!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 08, 2019, 01:03:41 pm
Tinged.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Tinged.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 08, 2019, 01:38:17 pm
Tinged.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Tinged.jpg)
Excellent!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 08, 2019, 02:00:38 pm
You do this sort if thing so well, Keith.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 08, 2019, 02:08:41 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 09, 2019, 05:22:43 am
Thanks, guys, I enjoy making them.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 12, 2019, 11:50:06 am
runner
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 17, 2019, 06:39:15 pm
gossip
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 18, 2019, 06:12:51 am
I like "Gossip."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 19, 2019, 03:46:17 am
Timeless.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Timeless.jpg)
Z7, 50S.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on October 19, 2019, 07:24:34 am
Timeless.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Timeless.jpg)
Z7, 50S.

How sad! It lost it's hands.The numbers are pretty...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 19, 2019, 08:59:43 am
That isn't the broken clock that is right once a day, so it must be right all the time!
(or at least it's never wrong.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 19, 2019, 04:41:31 pm
That isn't the broken clock that is right once a day, so it must be right all the time!
(or at least it's never wrong.)


My broken clocks are better than your broken clocks: they are right twice a day.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 19, 2019, 05:00:55 pm
But why would anyone want to get up at 2:30 AM?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 19, 2019, 05:24:42 pm
But why would anyone want to get up at 2:30 AM?


Ask Chuck Berry.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 20, 2019, 09:32:56 pm
That clock would look great under this lamp. Light is what it needs.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-hnPBPqT/0/1691a03a/M/JMRO4193%20bwcopy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 06:50:42 am
That clock would look great under this lamp. Light is what it needs.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-hnPBPqT/0/1691a03a/M/JMRO4193%20bwcopy1000-M.jpg)

John, I'd comment, but this is Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 21, 2019, 09:52:16 am
John, I'd comment, but this is Without Prejudice.
Go ahead. It is part of my experimentation with the "Bold bw filter." In normal bw mode it would be far less contrasty.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 10:10:18 am
Go ahead. It is part of my experimentation with the "Bold bw filter." In normal bw mode it would be far less contrasty.

JR

John, I was referring to your contention that the clock would look great under the lamp, which would mean I would have to second guess your image.

I neither second guess - critique - other's images or for that matter seek second guessing - critique - on my own.

Keith
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 21, 2019, 10:17:03 am
I neither second guess - critique - other's images or for that matter seek second guessing - critique - on my own.

Keith

No kidding, Keith? Then why are you posting in a sequence titled "User Critiques?"
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 10:18:32 am
No kidding, Keith? Then why are you posting in a sequence titled "User Critiques?"

I'm posting in Rob's Without Prejudice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 21, 2019, 10:20:43 am
I'm posting in Rob's Without Prejudice.


Thank you, Keith, for helping keep this tiny area sacrosanct.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 10:22:03 am

Thank you, Keith, for helping keep this tiny area sacrosanct.

Rob

You are very welcome, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 21, 2019, 10:22:44 am
I'm posting in Rob's Without Prejudice.

Well, maybe the critiques are without prejudice but they're still critiques. (Not sure how you can critique without prejudice, but politicians claim all the time to do exactly that, even when they're damning their opponents to hell.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 10:25:18 am
Well, maybe the critiques are without prejudice but they're still critiques. (Not sure how you can critique without prejudice, but politicians claim all the time to do exactly that, even when they're damning their opponents to hell.)

As I said, I don't seek or offer critique.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 21, 2019, 11:13:49 am
As I said, I don't seek or offer critique.


And that is EXACTLY the purpose of having this little slot called Without Prejudice; it is intended for people who do not wish to receive critique of any kind.

All other slots, where readers can post pictures, do not have this restriction; people happy with, or needy of public reevaluation of their work are free to post there for such reaction.

I rather keep this single slot free from such unwanted input.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on October 21, 2019, 11:14:12 am
As I said, I don't seek or offer critique.
May I ask why do you publish at all?
It sounds as if you don't care if others like your pictures.
I myself DO like them (albeit not everyone) don't get me wrong.
Are then comments/applause irrelevant?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 21, 2019, 11:15:49 am
May I ask why do you publish at all?
It sounds as if you don't care if others like your pictures.
I myself DO like them (albeit not everyone) don't get me wrong.
Are then comments/applause irrelevant?


Read my post above. We speak of WP only.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on October 21, 2019, 11:22:38 am

And that is EXACTLY the purpose of having this little slot called Without Prejudice; it is intended for people who do not wish to receive critique of any kind.
Well I asked some time ago what the title means (you know, my poor English). And I didn't get the impression that comments were unwanted.
I'll be more careful in the future
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 21, 2019, 11:29:01 am
May I ask why do you publish at all?
It sounds as if you don't care if others like your pictures.
I myself DO like them (albeit not everyone) don't get me wrong.
Are then comments/applause irrelevant?


There's another point to be made: liking or not liking anyone's pictures is in no way the same thing as offering critique, which is about making suggestions on how otherwise the author might or should have made that picture. That is what WP is designed to avoid.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 21, 2019, 11:35:38 am
Well I asked some time ago what the title means (you know, my poor English). And I didn't get the impression that comments were unwanted.
I'll be more careful in the future


The problem might be that this is edition three of WP, and the original statement concerning its creation and purpose was made long ago at the very start of edition one. Unless anyone searches back through the generations, it's not surprising that the original premise is somewhat clouded in the mists of time.

Your English is perfectly good enough for the purposes of playing a real rôle here; don't give it a thought.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 11:58:54 am
May I ask why do you publish at all?
It sounds as if you don't care if others like your pictures.
I myself DO like them (albeit not everyone) don't get me wrong.
Are then comments/applause irrelevant?

I post my images here - I admit on occasion to the wrong thread, which is a failing on my part - simply to show what it is I'm doing. I also view other contributor's images to see what it is they are doing. It's that simple.

Please, don't let's sully Rob's well intentioned thread.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 12:00:06 pm

There's another point to be made: liking or not liking anyone's pictures is in no way the same thing as offering critique, which is about making suggestions on how otherwise the author might or should have made that picture. That is what WP is designed to avoid.

Rob

Indeed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 12:10:09 pm
Let's have another image.

One Down, One to Go.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/One_Down_One_To_Go.jpg)
Z7 50 S.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 21, 2019, 12:17:41 pm

There's another point to be made: liking or not liking anyone's pictures is in no way the same thing as offering critique, which is about making suggestions on how otherwise the author might or should have made that picture. That is what WP is designed to avoid.

Rob

Rob, a small point. My Chambers dictionary gives the following definitions of "prejudice":

1.A judgement or opinion formed prematurely or without due consideration of relevant issues
2.Prepossession or bias in favour of or against anything
3.Unthinking hostility
4.Injury or harm
5.Disadvantage

Maybe the title of the thread should be changed to "Without Judgment" or "Without Criticism." As it stands, the implication is that kudos are okay, but "no goods" are prohibited.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 12:23:38 pm
While we're at it, can we rename Luminous Landscape?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 21, 2019, 12:28:21 pm
Great idea Keith!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice, or No Second Guessing, Please
Post by: Rob C on October 21, 2019, 02:17:02 pm
Rob, a small point. My Chambers dictionary gives the following definitions of "prejudice":

1.A judgement or opinion formed prematurely or without due consideration of relevant issues
2.Prepossession or bias in favour of or against anything
3.Unthinking hostility
4.Injury or harm
5.Disadvantage

Maybe the title of the thread should be changed to "Without Judgment" or "Without Criticism." As it stands, the implication is that kudos are okay, but "no goods" are prohibited.


All good points, and these ages later, I can only think my title was supposed to imply none of your #3, por favor.

I shall try to add something to the title in order to make it more obvious, but as this Mk 3 has Chris' name as sponsor, simply because it was his decision that keeping it as a single thread was clumsy - perhaps only he or a moderator can do that. As I say, I'll try to fix it, and if I cannot do that, I'll ask Jeremy to try for me.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 21, 2019, 02:26:17 pm
Seems I can only change the title on a specific post, not for future ones. (See above title and this current one.)

I don't want to lose the WP part in any new title because it has run successfully as it is for years; one or two user bloops is not the end of the world, and easily rectified as they happen. Let's just leave it alone.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 21, 2019, 02:49:45 pm
Don't worry about it, Rob. It's fine as is. It's been working for a long time now. I can't complain. You're the guy who caught my 100% reduction in ISO in "Camera Control for Beginning Photographers." My face is still red from that one.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 21, 2019, 03:25:11 pm
Don't worry about it, Rob. It's fine as is. It's been working for a long time now. I can't complain. You're the guy who caught my 100% reduction in ISO in "Camera Control for Beginning Photographers." My face is still red from that one.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 21, 2019, 06:08:15 pm
A leaf...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on October 22, 2019, 08:38:39 am
Another leaf...


 :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on October 22, 2019, 08:43:07 am
Fallen Dreams on my Windshield:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 22, 2019, 10:13:14 am
Thanks Rab and Slobo.
Sometimes I think the best response to a photograph is another photograph!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 22, 2019, 10:32:55 am
You mean when leaves rush in, like "when fools rush in." ;)

JR

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 22, 2019, 12:29:44 pm
Thanks Rab and Slobo.
Sometimes I think the best response to a photograph is another photograph!

That would be the Photo Chain Challenge, or whatever it was called.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 22, 2019, 12:34:39 pm
Maybe this is now the Leaf Chain Challenge.
Can you post an image to challenge our beleafs?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 25, 2019, 05:31:31 pm
An old celebration of digital grain:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 27, 2019, 01:11:59 pm
The Fire Place.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Oven_Chios.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 27, 2019, 01:48:13 pm
You come up with some amazing locations, Keith.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 27, 2019, 02:25:22 pm
You come up with some amazing locations, Keith.

Rob
+1.
And certain amazing colors that I don't see from anybody else.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 27, 2019, 04:33:01 pm
+1.
And certain amazing colors that I don't see from anybody else.
What I like most about his images is that they have naturalness quality to them and compositions are so well done.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 27, 2019, 07:41:12 pm
It's a fine shot, Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 28, 2019, 05:05:27 am
Thanks guys, appreciated.

Rob, the locations, unfortunately it's a matter of 99% searching and 1% finding.

So sorry to hear of your incident, must have shaken you and your confidence. Thank the Gods you weren't physically injured! 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 29, 2019, 10:05:06 am
Thanks guys, appreciated.

Rob, the locations, unfortunately it's a matter of 99% searching and 1% finding.

So sorry to hear of your incident, must have shaken you and your confidence. Thank the Gods you weren't physically injured!

Indeed it has, Keith.

For somebody who has travelled quite a lot, always felt a keen sense of awareness of dangers, this came out of the blue, my reactions being fear of getting hit with a fake sex assault charge. The last thing in my head was I was being robbed!

In the end, I can blame only myself for thinking it was normal for an old guy to wander around wearing something obviously valuable. If I had been left-handed, I'd have been carrying my rolled 'brolly in that hand, and she could never have removed the watch without a really hard tug to break the links of the metal strap.

Feeling foolish to the degree I inevitably do now is not pleasant. At lunch today I spoke with a couple I know; both of them have Rolexes, far more expensive than mine was. He showed me the catch on his strap: a new device to lock it. Horses, barn doors.

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on October 29, 2019, 02:26:23 pm
Feeling foolish to the degree I inevitably do now is not pleasant. At lunch today I spoke with a couple I know; both of them have Rolexes, far more expensive than mine was. He showed me the catch on his strap: a new device to lock it. Horses, barn doors.
Don't feel foolish, Rob.
You are dealing with professionals, you have no other chance but to wear less luxus on your body.
A friend of mine was beaten without any warning many times with a gun on his face and then they took his money and were gone. Not a word exchanged.
Better a pretty lady showing affection
Can happen to anyone
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on October 29, 2019, 02:44:12 pm
Don't feel foolish, Rob.
You are dealing with professionals, you have no other chance but to wear less luxus on your body.
A friend of mine was beaten without any warning many times with a gun on his face and then they took his money and were gone. Not a word exchanged.
Better a pretty lady showing affection
Can happen to anyone

Yes, I know I was lucky not to have been harmed physically; but you are optimistic: this street rat was not pretty - just bland, which makes it much more difficult to describe and remember. (The perfect natural disguise.) Affection? She felt like a gigantic tarantula - everywhere at once. Clever trick to cover the wrist stage. They must have lots of fun practising.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on October 29, 2019, 02:47:16 pm
Affection? She felt like a gigantic tarantula - everywhere at once. Clever trick to cover the wrist stage. They must have lots of fun practising.

:-)

:)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 30, 2019, 01:18:22 pm
I guess the cell phones are good for some things, though my ability to hold them steady is hit and miss. Holding them out then pressing or tapping it from almost any side or edge, does not strike me as conducive to producing a sharp image.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-XMWgQ8p/0/f34764fe/M/Lodge%202019%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 30, 2019, 02:23:41 pm
I guess the cell phones are good for some things, though my ability to hold them steady is hit and miss. Holding them out then pressing or tapping it from almost any side or edge, does not strike me as conducive to producing a sharp image.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-XMWgQ8p/0/f34764fe/M/Lodge%202019%20copy1000-M.jpg)

I thought not keeping the phone steady would help your style  ;)

If you want steadier use a 2 sec timer.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 30, 2019, 05:06:17 pm
I think it needs much more ICM to liven it up!   ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on October 31, 2019, 04:19:57 am
I guess the cell phones are good for some things, though my ability to hold them steady is hit and miss. Holding them out then pressing or tapping it from almost any side or edge, does not strike me as conducive to producing a sharp image.

In earlier incarnations of the camera on the iPhone, the picture was, or at least could be set to be, taken when you lifted your finger off the "shutter button" image. I always felt removing that feature was a retrograde step.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 31, 2019, 12:54:15 pm
I think it needs much more ICM to liven it up!   ;)
In that case, I have to reject Jeremy's suggestion, which I thought was excellent for a cell phone. Shows what little I know. BTW, to get that shot, I had to place my elbow and camera right on the car hood. And that's my excuse for not doing ICM, I was hood-winked, so to speak.  8)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 31, 2019, 01:32:44 pm
Z7, 14-30 S, @ 24.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Alcove.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 31, 2019, 04:50:48 pm
Excellent.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 31, 2019, 07:00:38 pm
end
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on November 01, 2019, 11:57:55 am
I looked up while tying my shoes...

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 01, 2019, 12:08:44 pm
I looked up while tying my shoes...

Beautifully clean.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on November 01, 2019, 12:19:31 pm
+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 01, 2019, 12:22:49 pm
Beautifully clean.

Rob
Now that's good seeing!

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 01, 2019, 06:30:49 pm
Now that's good seeing!

JR
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on November 01, 2019, 07:49:56 pm
Thank you friends!
Very glad to hear your comments  :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 04, 2019, 12:00:55 pm
Reflection
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 04, 2019, 01:37:02 pm
Nice!
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Post by: armand on November 05, 2019, 11:46:20 am
Nice!

Thank you!

Here is another one with a 135mm equiv (first was 50 mm)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 05, 2019, 12:20:57 pm
Also nice.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on November 06, 2019, 01:04:10 pm
Thank you.

Fall blues
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on November 07, 2019, 12:23:58 pm
After two years, I made the first visits to the pool near the Rusgiai. The first in october, the second in november, three days ago, with 30/45 cm of snow. The last  is a photo of the Rusgiai. (Western Grosina Valley, Valtellina)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Arlen on November 07, 2019, 04:58:21 pm
Z7, 14-30 S, @ 24.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Alcove.jpg)

Simply superb.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 11, 2019, 10:57:17 am
Eric, Arlen, many thanks, much appreciated.

From earlier in the year, Camouflaged in Varanasi.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/camouflage.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on November 11, 2019, 05:27:20 pm


From earlier in the year, Camouflaged in Varanasi.



Hiding in plain sight! Amazing image...coincidental color too!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 11, 2019, 06:40:55 pm
Hiding in plain sight! Amazing image...coincidental color too!

Peter
Agreed!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 11, 2019, 07:25:16 pm
Agreed!
Indeed, the monochromatic look is really striking.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RBFritz on November 12, 2019, 07:31:51 pm
Great, great shot. A classic, Klaban.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 13, 2019, 03:21:08 am
Thanks guys.

As if the bulls, cows and water buffalo aren't dangerous enough, they're now employing camouflage!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 16, 2019, 12:40:38 pm
Another from the ghats of Varanasi.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Peace3.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 16, 2019, 03:04:46 pm
Another from the ghats of Varanasi.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Peace3.jpg)
Very fine indeed, as usual.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on November 16, 2019, 03:28:39 pm
Good shooting, Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 17, 2019, 08:57:57 am
Thanks guys.

Can hardly wait to return!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on November 17, 2019, 09:48:04 am
Thanks guys.

Can hardly wait to return!

These are all so good...have you a venue to show this wonderful body of work?

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 17, 2019, 10:06:44 am
These are all so good...have you a venue to show this wonderful body of work?

Peter

Peter, thanks.

When I 'retired' I promised myself that what followed would be entirely for me. That said, if a publisher should come along...

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on November 17, 2019, 11:37:30 am
Peter, thanks.

When I 'retired' I promised myself that what followed would be entirely for me. That said, if a publisher should come along...

;-)

Got It....

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Arlen on November 17, 2019, 03:41:32 pm
Peter, thanks.

When I 'retired' I promised myself that what followed would be entirely for me. That said, if a publisher should come along...

;-)

I hope one does come along, because these images definitely merit it.

Something like that did happen to me. After I retired (from a molecular biology career), I took up photographing and writing about aquatic insects, and posted about it on the internet. After a few years a publisher noticed and offered me a book deal. It wouldn't have happened otherwise; I was not into chasing opportunities or meeting deadlines at that point.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: D Fuller on November 17, 2019, 05:04:37 pm
Eric, Arlen, many thanks, much appreciated.

From earlier in the year, Camouflaged in Varanasi.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/camouflage.jpg)

This is among my favorite sorts of images. The capture of a nearly-monochrome scene in color is striking. My daughter photographs scenes with limited color palettes remarkably often. I find that they seldom appear to me. I'm a little jealous. :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 18, 2019, 11:10:43 am
Arlen, David, thanks.

I hope one does come along, because these images definitely merit it.

Something like that did happen to me. After I retired (from a molecular biology career), I took up photographing and writing about aquatic insects, and posted about it on the internet. After a few years a publisher noticed and offered me a book deal. It wouldn't have happened otherwise; I was not into chasing opportunities or meeting deadlines at that point.

Arlen, Understood. I always found working to please others was just that, work, whereas working to please myself was a joy.  As an illustrator I always worked for others, as a photographer I have always worked for myself, producing what ever I wanted and worrying about how to turn a buck from the resulting images as an afterthought. Don't get me wrong, it's not a business model I'd recommend to others.

As an example, earlier in the year I was offered a gig that any sane working photographer would have given their right arm for, but for which I would have had to relinquish control. Although flattered I wasn't even tempted. I guess money has never been my driving force and also guess it's why I'm not wealthy.

This is among my favorite sorts of images. The capture of a nearly-monochrome scene in color is striking. My daughter photographs scenes with limited color palettes remarkably often. I find that they seldom appear to me. I'm a little jealous. :)


David, it's something for which I keep an eye open, but honestly rarely find, or rather rarely produce to my own satisfaction. When it works it works, though just not often enough.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 23, 2019, 05:27:04 am
Ironing services, Jodhpur, India.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Ironing.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on November 23, 2019, 07:16:31 am
Well done, Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on November 23, 2019, 08:21:46 am
Ironing services, Jodhpur, India.

Keith,

Those warm notes against the cool blue...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 23, 2019, 08:54:30 am
Russ, thanks.

Peter, yes, this is the draw of Jodhpur, the city's blue architecture and the contrasting warmth of the people's attire. 
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 24, 2019, 01:43:08 pm
Well done, Keith.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 25, 2019, 08:08:16 am
Thanks, Eric.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rajan Parrikar on November 25, 2019, 10:41:07 am
Beautiful work, Keith. I had missed these images as I tend not to click on extended threads.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 25, 2019, 12:13:20 pm
Thanks, Rajan, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on November 26, 2019, 05:30:30 pm
Too much hard work.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 26, 2019, 07:17:26 pm
Not just hard work, Rob. You know the definition of a boat?
"A hole in the water into which you pour money."

-Eric

P.S. Neat image.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 28, 2019, 01:15:05 pm
From the ghats of Varanasi.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Peace2.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 28, 2019, 09:02:42 pm
Great portrait.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Arlen on November 28, 2019, 11:15:42 pm
Great portrait.

Very striking indeed.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 30, 2019, 03:52:44 am
Thanks folks.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on November 30, 2019, 07:46:03 am
Off to the party, invitation in hand.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Party_Girls.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on November 30, 2019, 02:49:52 pm
Wonderful the last few portraits Keith. Love the natural light and colours, which seem to augment the people.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on November 30, 2019, 02:50:18 pm
+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 30, 2019, 04:47:24 pm
A detail of a rooftop bar, next to a classic facade, in Belgrade. Serbia. Taken with a 13mm iPhone camera.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 01, 2019, 03:32:36 am
Thanks to John and Russ.

When out and about in India I see many promising subjects against indifferent backgrounds and many promising backgrounds with indifferent subjects: the camera stays by my side. Occasionally I see the best of both worlds...

 :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 01, 2019, 06:39:10 am
These days I see few promising subjects or promising locations; I tend to see the wrong side of stable doors.

A simple security measure, such as implemented on the rhinestone substitute below, had it been in place some weeks ago, would have saved me a lot of time, stress and dismay. Knotted around the bracelet and then the wrist, the arm would have had to be removed first in order to remove the timepiece.

Mea culpa! Dammit!

Back to the manual 1.8/50mm on this shot. I think I prefer the look of this lens to the modern alternative.

:-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 01, 2019, 08:55:28 am
These days I see few promising subjects or promising locations; I tend to see the wrong side of stable doors.

A simple security measure, such as implemented on the rhinestone substitute below, had it been in place some weeks ago, would have saved me a lot of time, stress and dismay. Knotted around the bracelet and then the wrist, the arm would have had to be removed first in order to remove the timepiece.

Mea culpa! Dammit!

Back to the manual 1.8/50mm on this shot. I think I prefer the look of this lens to the modern alternative.

:-(

Rob, you're a distinguished looking guy. If I spotted you on the ghats of Varanasi in saffron garb I'd certainly lift camera to eye!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 01, 2019, 09:37:00 am
Rob, you're a distinguished looking guy. If I spotted you on the ghats of Varanasi in saffron garb I'd certainly lift camera to eye!

;-)
I would love to see that!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on December 01, 2019, 10:06:40 am
Rob, you're a distinguished looking guy. If I spotted you on the ghats of Varanasi in saffron garb I'd certainly lift camera to eye!

;-)

Hahaha. But in colour please  ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on December 01, 2019, 11:08:48 am
Man, look at that watch!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 01, 2019, 11:12:28 am
Hahaha. But in colour please  ;D

You gotta be joking!!! Please say you are joking.

In the days when I could let the Sun play all over me, I was "distinguished" when I went back to Scotland in winter after trips, and wore less than I should just to flaunt the tan; I used to tan quickly without much of a red period - that made me think I was naturally protected. Today, I pay the penalty for too much sunlight. As my doc once told me: skin has memory. Keith knows what I'm talking about, as I'm sure do too many other northerners. Nope, never used a sunbed; this is natural disaster of which we speak. What are you gonna do?

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 01, 2019, 11:15:42 am
Man, look at that watch!

Yeah, advertising photography... enough seen, not enough to read the logo, but just enough to see what it's not.

This could depress me again.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 01, 2019, 11:25:29 am
Rob, you're a distinguished looking guy. If I spotted you on the ghats of Varanasi in saffron garb I'd certainly lift camera to eye!

;-)

It's the Bruce Weber bandanna fooled you.

If I spotted myself there I'd shoot a selfie! Well, I would if I had replaced my cellphone which has decided it no longer wants to trawl in the exciting world of art photography. Or any other photography.

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 01, 2019, 05:42:48 pm
Dusk falls on Belgrade:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 01, 2019, 05:59:49 pm
These are excellent Slobodan. Is this your phone?

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 01, 2019, 06:04:28 pm
Thanks, John. Yes, iPhone 11 Pro Max.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 02, 2019, 05:47:24 am
Nick Knight was right.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 02, 2019, 06:56:54 am
Nick Knight was right.

Yes he was, and still is right!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 02, 2019, 09:49:19 am
You two speak in the secret language of the Illuminati? ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 02, 2019, 10:28:55 am
You two speak in the secret language of the Illuminati? ;)

LOL, yes it does seem that way.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 02, 2019, 10:44:41 am
Multiplication
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 02, 2019, 12:05:31 pm
Multiplication

There are ten digits, just not set up as in the primate world...

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 02, 2019, 12:35:26 pm
You two speak in the secret language of the Illuminati? ;)

Si.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 02, 2019, 06:41:45 pm
Fallen
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on December 03, 2019, 04:04:09 am
Fallen

Superb patterns and colors!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 03, 2019, 08:38:56 am
Fallen

I like these.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on December 03, 2019, 09:44:40 am
Well done, Armand.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 03, 2019, 10:40:09 am
Thank you all!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 03, 2019, 02:24:07 pm
Fun stuff, night lights shows at Fairchild Botanical garden, a place I almost always visit when I go to Miami.
Not so much fun was the the extreme check (including a patdown) to go into the damn show.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 03, 2019, 03:06:46 pm
A truly fun series, Armand, especially the first and the fourth.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 06, 2019, 05:11:57 pm
conflict
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 06, 2019, 08:38:30 pm
"Your bill is the wrong shape!"
"No yours is!"
"No..."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on December 09, 2019, 08:51:20 am
Third guy in the background is waiting to choose his side (round vs pointy bill)…

A really nice shot.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 09, 2019, 10:32:38 am
Third guy in the background is waiting to choose his side (round vs pointy bill)…

A really nice shot.

There's always an opportunist lurking about.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 09, 2019, 01:05:03 pm
Interesting commentary, Eric and Peter. But I am sure I heard the third "opportunist" bird say, I told that lumbering big beaked bird not to mess with the little guy.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 09, 2019, 02:46:03 pm
Interesting commentary, Eric and Peter. But I am sure I heard the third "opportunist" bird say, I told that lumbering big beaked bird not to mess with the little guy.

JR

Are you absolutely sure, John? I see no cape.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 09, 2019, 07:49:41 pm
Thank you, the fight was pretty intense although the reason eluded me.

At first the big one seemed to to winning but then the little one found some backup and held his ground.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 10, 2019, 03:57:49 am
Fun stuff, night lights shows at Fairchild Botanical garden, a place I almost always visit when I go to Miami.n)...

Seems we missed each other by... a year ;)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 10, 2019, 05:44:45 am
Over the Gate. Nimaj, Rajasthan, India.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Over_the_Gate.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on December 10, 2019, 08:15:55 am
Great shot. Intense kid.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 10, 2019, 08:55:53 am
Another very fine portrait.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 12, 2019, 09:02:16 pm
not me

- not decided if I should go with color instead of the bw that I initially planned
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 13, 2019, 06:28:04 am
not me

- not decided if I should go with color instead of the bw that I initially planned

Horses for courses: pour moi, colour wins the election, never mind the race.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 13, 2019, 01:25:27 pm
portraits
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 14, 2019, 06:13:13 am
Thanks to Russ and Eric.

Hands, Feet. Another from the streets of Nimaj.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Hands_Feet.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on December 14, 2019, 07:20:52 am
Another one very well done. Bravo, Keith!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 14, 2019, 11:08:33 am
not decided if I should go with color instead of the bw that I initially planned

Colour.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 14, 2019, 11:10:55 am
Another one very well done. Bravo, Keith!
Ditto!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 18, 2019, 01:25:32 pm
A cold day in Mallorca; the cherry wants to hibernate.

Forgot to mention: this was the 2.8/180mm @ 2.8 using the brilliant handy grip that I made up from a cycle tyre. There was a glitch, caused by that awkward little slider button that locks/frees the aperture ring according to the exposure system you opt to use, fouling the patent grip and resulting in a blacked out prism. For some auto methods you have to slide this tiny button (size of part of a grain of rice) down and lock the aperture ring at f22. As I never use these auto settings for shutter or diaphragm, I have just taped the pesky little item down with more black tape to match the rest of the tape on the camera. Such a creative few minutes!
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Post by: RSL on December 18, 2019, 02:09:38 pm
Yes!
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Post by: Rob C on December 18, 2019, 02:15:00 pm
Yes!


Thanks, Russ; when it was young, the thing gave us some cherries, but in recent years only blossom. Perhaps a classical, literal case of the early birds.

:-)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 18, 2019, 08:22:29 pm
That is a fine and poignant image, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 19, 2019, 04:11:53 am
To go with Rob’s flow.

Fallen Dreams on my Windshield:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 19, 2019, 06:24:02 am
That is a fine and poignant image, Rob.

Thanks, I think it suits us retired guys: we see things in a slightly more lightly melancholic manner than the young. To wit: Slobodan's cheerfully bright leaf in the rain (or ice?)... ah, optimism of the younger set!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 19, 2019, 08:02:11 am
With age comes wisdom, but sometimes age comes alone...

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Gone.jpg)

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 19, 2019, 08:14:52 am
Rob, beautiful subtle tones and colour in the leaf shot.
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Post by: petermfiore on December 19, 2019, 08:20:56 am
A cold day in Mallorca; the cherry wants to hibernate.

Rob,

Beautiful!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 19, 2019, 09:41:40 am
Keith and Peter - thanks for the comments.

For a change, I used the D700 on that shot because as I had to dig out the 180mm from the same stacker box... is that lazy or what?

The shot's pretty straight, with no colour correction, and just a couple of layers to correct for the flat files I set the camera to give when new. I also gave a little sharpening to the leaf, having masked off the rest of the pic.

I like simple pictures; fit my mind to the letter! Thanks again.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 19, 2019, 09:51:31 am
Keith and Peter - thanks for the comments.

I like simple pictures; fit my mind to the letter! Thanks again.

;-)
Rob,

I like simple straight pictures...Painted or otherwise!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 19, 2019, 10:43:49 am
Rob,

I like simple straight pictures...Painted or otherwise!

Peter
Me too!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 19, 2019, 10:47:11 am
Thanks, I think it suits us retired guys: we see things in a slightly more lightly melancholic manner than the young. To wit: Slobodan's cheerfully bright leaf in the rain (or ice?)... ah, optimism of the younger set!

;-)
This reminds me of something my grandfather would say when he was in his mid-seventies (I am now 80), when seeing an atractive young woman walking on the other side of the street. He would shake his head and say to me, "I wish I were seventy again!"
 ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 19, 2019, 02:21:14 pm
This reminds me of something my grandfather would say when he was in his mid-seventies (I am now 80), when seeing an atractive young woman walking on the other side of the street. He would shake his head and say to me, "I wish I were seventy again!"
 ;D



Seeing them on the other side of the street speaks volumes! I jest; seeing them clearly is often the problem. Post August's twin cataract expulsions, I can see them and everything else on the other side of the street very clearly, but as with those who creep up from behind, processing intent takes a little longer. Even my own, which is pretty dormant.

Can't remember if I mentioned it already, but post cataracts, using the screens on both cameras (once the diopters re-set properly to suit the new situation) has become far better, especially so with the D700 which has a head start due to its natively larger image in the viewfinder. I've had a Nikon magnifier on each for quite some time, and that helped a lot at once. However, I also tried looking through the finder of the D700 with the 24mm in place, and was amazed at how easily I could get things looking really crisp even with that difficult lens. Perhaps I have been chastising digital screens a little too harshly, with much of the problem residing within my own eyes.

Win some, lose some...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 19, 2019, 05:38:53 pm
Leaf #2:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on December 19, 2019, 07:44:54 pm
Again, yes!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on December 20, 2019, 04:35:30 am
Great shot, Rob! I love it.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 20, 2019, 05:17:20 am
Thanks; both shots from inside the office looking out at the cherry tree.

I feel sad about it; it does its annual dance for me, my wife and I having been responsible for planting it, yet because of the monitor, the window to the tree is almost pemanently shuttered and curtained to keep the office light constant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceB70wUNl5g

;-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 20, 2019, 10:28:18 am
In honor of the cherry tree and the memories of Rob. Enjoyed by millions since 1959. A much better gift than "things."

"In April 1, 1959, the Japanese ambassador to Canada, Toru-Hagiwara, presented 2000 Japanese Somei-Yoshino Sakura trees to the citizens of Toronto on behalf of the citizens of Tokyo. The trees were planted in appreciation of Toronto accepting re-located Japanese-Canadians following the Second World War. Many of these trees were planted on the hillside overlooking Grenadier Pond (southwest of the Grenadier Café) and around the east shore of the pond." (from- https://highparknaturecentre.com/2/cherry-blossom-history)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/High-Park-Toronto/i-CwNjPsP/0/ace4189c/M/Oct%2025-10%20HP%20256%20copy1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/High-Park-Toronto/i-K3qT2Ls/0/7603969a/M/Oct%2025-10%20HP%20218%20copy1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/High-Park-Toronto/i-XpxWZMS/0/b258b36c/M/Oct%2025-10%20HP%20216%20extrasharp-copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on December 20, 2019, 01:44:13 pm
city
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 20, 2019, 04:03:20 pm
A winter past:

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 20, 2019, 04:42:20 pm
Lots of good stuff here since I checked last in.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 21, 2019, 08:43:47 am
Leaf #2:

The Last Leaf...wonderful image. And nod to O. Henry


Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on December 21, 2019, 09:14:04 am
The Last Leaf...wonderful image. And nod to O. Henry


Peter


Thank's Peter, much appreciated.

Full House?

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 24, 2019, 08:28:19 am
Kitchen, Corfu.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Chaos3.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on December 24, 2019, 08:32:56 am
Kitchen, Corfu.

Beautiful, Keith.

Soft nuanced color, flavored with a chromatic fleck.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on December 24, 2019, 09:43:27 am
Ah... Wabi sabi. Love the frying pan still on the stove. Good shooting, Keith.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 24, 2019, 12:23:09 pm
Ah... Wabi sabi. Love the frying pan still on the stove. Good shooting, Keith.

Thanks to Peter and Russ.

It was the fossilised lemon next to the frying pan that tickled me.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 24, 2019, 01:24:51 pm
I agree with both Russ and Peter.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on December 24, 2019, 04:07:13 pm
Thanks, Eric.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on December 27, 2019, 10:45:34 pm
Okay I relent. I have a few 'Christmasy' images. Much easier when it is in the countryside.

JMR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-6pQZJ7x/0/cc0eb8eb/M/Feb%2010-10%20Coldcreek-Cal%20141%20copy1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-GSPR9Rp/0/555ddc97/M/Feb%206-11%20Caledon%20018%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 28, 2019, 08:51:37 am
I love the buried reindeer.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on December 29, 2019, 05:57:50 pm
An afternoon's bimble on Kilve beach
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 29, 2019, 10:48:30 pm
Fascinating beach.
The clouds set it off nicely.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on January 02, 2020, 11:32:30 am
Silent Disco
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 06, 2020, 12:05:25 am
Another horseshoe bend, from a crappy airplane window
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 10, 2020, 10:27:09 pm
triangle
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on January 11, 2020, 07:26:57 am
triangle
This I like very much
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 11, 2020, 09:29:32 am
This I like very much
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 11, 2020, 12:00:37 pm
Thank you
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Arlen on January 11, 2020, 05:43:06 pm
Same here. The triangle is very unique.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 14, 2020, 05:16:25 am
Airflow.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on January 14, 2020, 07:04:05 am
Airflow.

Rob

Beautiful!

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 14, 2020, 07:20:37 am
Very nice, Rob. Love the contrail.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 14, 2020, 08:47:01 am
+1 to both Peter and Russ.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 14, 2020, 09:45:40 am
Thanks, guys; as I've mentioned before, lots of shots are possible without leaving home. This was shot from the terrace one day whilst I was having coffee after my late selfie lunch.

You wouldn't believe the selfie argument about whether I would or would not get up off my ass, get the camera out, and make an exposure or two. We can turn into our own worst enemies, if we are not careful.

I like the type of winter sky we sometimes get here on windy days. I mentioned before that I surprise myself now and then with a deep desire to get onto a 'plane and go somewhere. Then I think of my age and medical record, the almost zero chance of getting any form of affordable travel insurance, and it all sinks back into a distant country.

Still, if this property of mine eventually sells, I would take the risk and drive back across France and enjoy the solitary trip, lack of schedule and what new adventure it all may bring. I hold not my breath!

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 14, 2020, 12:17:21 pm
Whether or not I'd put down my Perfect Manhattan, flop down the leg supporter on the chair, run two rooms away to get my camera, come back and shoot a picture of the geranium made stunning by the low evening sun. . . I finally did, and got this just before the sun gave up the ghost. It's always worthwhile to get up and get your camera. It's even better to keep a camera next to you when you're having your Perfect Manhattan.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 14, 2020, 01:43:41 pm
You could call that one the Perfect Manhattan.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 14, 2020, 02:27:41 pm
They say you are what you shoot and what you eat, but these selfies are everywhere and telling a completely different tale.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 14, 2020, 02:43:44 pm
Right, Rob. Better sample that before you decide to eat it. Good shooting by the way.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 14, 2020, 02:45:24 pm
Right, Rob. Better sample that before you decide to eat it. Good shooting by the way.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 14, 2020, 07:54:47 pm
focused
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 16, 2020, 05:20:26 pm
Marching orders:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 17, 2020, 07:12:42 am
Rob, you probably need to find a shop that can fix that lens.  8)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 17, 2020, 01:56:52 pm
Rob, you probably need to find a shop that can fix that lens.  8)


What's wrong with it? Seems perfectly sharp to me, though I expect some may question the bokeh covering the distant horizon. People are really odd.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 17, 2020, 06:20:14 pm
Rob, you probably need to find a shop that can fix that lens.  8)
I think it has charm just as it is.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on January 18, 2020, 02:33:29 am
Airflow.

Rob


fab!!!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 18, 2020, 04:39:50 am


fab!!!

Thank you Keith; become a vegetarian!

;-)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 18, 2020, 05:17:01 pm
Yes, Mr Ripley, a Kodachrome 64 Pro.

:-)

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 18, 2020, 05:29:44 pm
waiting
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 19, 2020, 11:32:18 am
remnants
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 20, 2020, 11:34:46 am
dead or alive
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 21, 2020, 11:37:19 am
clouds
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 24, 2020, 03:50:42 pm
blend in
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 24, 2020, 07:47:00 pm
Cute.
(Blend in.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 28, 2020, 03:14:49 pm
Thanks.

Delta
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 30, 2020, 02:39:43 pm
Thanks.

Delta


I hope they weren't intending to land on a dune. Great image and sense of depth and scale; the colours help that a great deal too.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on January 30, 2020, 02:42:35 pm
On a trip through la belle F.

Rob

(My old 35mm shifting Nikkor, which I wish I still had, not that I'd do much with it, but you know... Kodachrome 64 Pro.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on January 31, 2020, 06:38:49 am
Winter on Lydeard Hill
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on January 31, 2020, 07:11:38 am
More good stuff, Bill.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 31, 2020, 12:20:30 pm

I hope they weren't intending to land on a dune. Great image and sense of depth and scale; the colours help that a great deal too.

Rob

Thank you. No dunes to be seen, this was in Salt Lake City area.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on January 31, 2020, 12:21:11 pm
Evening
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on January 31, 2020, 01:00:48 pm
Thanks, Russ.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 05, 2020, 01:38:14 pm
covered
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 07, 2020, 03:57:40 pm
What's left, after a while.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 10, 2020, 01:27:04 pm
works
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 11, 2020, 01:11:38 pm
Encounter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chris Kern on February 14, 2020, 07:03:22 pm
(1) Peacock Head Shot, Arcadia, California, 2020
(2) Peacock on a Perch, Arcadia, California, 2020
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 16, 2020, 03:12:13 pm
Walking out of history: leading away from 300 BC Roman settlement of Bocchoris. Not that you can see anything if you go back from where you've been. That said, a spooky kind of valley, but not as bad as a forest. :-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on February 16, 2020, 03:47:08 pm
works


Just found this: love the first one - says so many conflicting things at once.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 17, 2020, 04:24:57 pm
Thank you Rob!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 18, 2020, 09:49:54 am
wild
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on February 22, 2020, 03:57:49 pm
Hawker.

(https://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Hawker.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on February 22, 2020, 04:07:02 pm
Good to see you  back, Keith. Good shooting too.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on February 22, 2020, 04:29:36 pm
Thanks, Russ.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 23, 2020, 09:28:24 am
Taken yesterday.
I call it "Tars and Stripes."
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 23, 2020, 10:08:16 am
Taken yesterday.
I call it "Tars and Stripes."

Very good! I kept looking for a way to get the white lines parallel (in the photo, not just real life).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Arlen on February 23, 2020, 11:59:51 am
Excellent, Eric--both the image and its title.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 23, 2020, 12:13:11 pm
Thanks Armand and Arlen.
Armand: I may try playing with perspective cropping in PS to see if I can get the stripes more parallel.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on February 23, 2020, 12:19:40 pm
Taken yesterday.
I call it "Tars and Stripes."

I love this Eric...Great graphics

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 23, 2020, 12:40:30 pm
photographer
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 23, 2020, 04:35:19 pm
I love this Eric...Great graphics

Peter
Thanks, Peter.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 23, 2020, 04:35:51 pm
photographer
Ah! The camera's own Selfie!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on February 23, 2020, 05:18:13 pm
photographer

You couldn't get me there for a million bucks...for any amount of money.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 23, 2020, 06:32:00 pm
Four more from yesterday, on Plum Island.
A rock, a footprint, water ripples on sand, and five shells (untouched by me
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 23, 2020, 07:03:29 pm
Ah! The camera's own Selfie!

One step closer to AI

You couldn't get me there for a million bucks...for any amount of money.

Peter

The wide lens can play games with perspective, it wasn't that bad; although truth be told, if you fell there the chances would not be in your favor.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 25, 2020, 10:18:21 pm
Winter's sun - a rare sight these days
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on February 27, 2020, 10:53:03 am
future past
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on February 27, 2020, 05:05:32 pm
future past

I like this idea very much...and the photo.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 02, 2020, 06:58:40 pm
I like this idea very much...and the photo.

Peter

Thank you!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 02, 2020, 06:59:07 pm
Late winter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 03, 2020, 08:08:56 pm
winter light
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 06, 2020, 03:53:48 pm
Don't fence me in; you can't fence me in.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 06, 2020, 07:49:33 pm
future past 2
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 09, 2020, 11:11:47 am
silhouettes
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on March 10, 2020, 07:25:24 am
silhouettes

Perfectly placed and they give a good idea of the scale…
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 12, 2020, 12:10:03 pm
Thank you Francois.

Two more non prejudicial shots.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 14, 2020, 09:03:14 am
An old Kodachrome from the days of stock photography. It was obviously a Nikon and, if memory isn't screwing with me, a 105mm Nikkor.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 14, 2020, 09:12:25 am
Love it, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 14, 2020, 09:48:28 am
Love it, Rob.


Thanks Russ; just one more of the typical tourist atmospherics that my agent (Tony Stone) asked me to stop submitting: all of London was groaning under the weight of similar material, so there was no point in sending more. Just like the competing Image Bank's 36,000 shots of the Eiffel Tower.

Some photography was just too easy, even before digital.

:-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 14, 2020, 10:20:44 am
Yeah, remember, I'll be 90 day after tomorrow. I was there. I saw the saturation take place back in the days when Norman Rockwell and Eisenstadt reigned supreme. But I still like the picture. Maybe because it's an echo out of the past.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on March 14, 2020, 10:24:42 am
Yeah, remember, I'll be 90 day after tomorrow. I was there. I saw the saturation take place back in the days when Norman Rockwell and Eisenstadt reigned supreme. But I still like the picture. Maybe because it's an echo out of the past.

Russ, here's wishing you a very happy 90th birthday on Monday.

All the best

Keith
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 14, 2020, 10:43:29 am
Yeah, remember, I'll be 90 day after tomorrow. I was there. I saw the saturation take place back in the days when Norman Rockwell and Eisenstadt reigned supreme. But I still like the picture. Maybe because it's an echo out of the past.

Many happy returns, and may the 90th mark but the start of a new decade of them for you!

Echoes of the past; that, in a nutshell, explains my love for the work of Sarah Moon and Deborah Turbeville.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 14, 2020, 11:08:50 am
Thanks, Keith and Rob. I dunno about another ten. I can check out without regret any time. I got to fly all the airplanes I wanted to fly except the P-51. I've got a huge family full of love. And I still enjoy things like shooting this not great but pleasant picture this morning. Looks as if we're going to move back to Colorado in a couple more months, so I need to get as many Florida pictures as I can. In any case, I'm still ambulatory, and at this point regretting that local street photography opportunities have shut down because of the panic over coronavirus.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Manoli on March 14, 2020, 11:14:05 am
Yeah, remember, I'll be 90 day after tomorrow.

Good Lord, Russ, still wet behind the ears !
All best wishes for a very happy birthday and my best for the years ahead.

Manoli
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 14, 2020, 08:16:55 pm
Let me add my hearty best wishes for your 90th, Russ!
Many of us youngsters (I'm not even 81 for a few more months) still admire your seeing and your wisdom.
My mom made it to 106, and died happy. Maybe you should take that as a target.
Don't quit while you are still able to enjoy!

Best,

Eric
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 15, 2020, 08:29:00 am
Thanks all. And Eric, my mom made 96 also. I'm not about to quit while I'm ahead.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: rabanito on March 15, 2020, 01:53:46 pm
Thanks all. And Eric, my mom made 96 also. I'm not about to quit while I'm ahead.

Hey I almost missed that!
HappyBirthday Russ!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on March 15, 2020, 02:19:20 pm
Happy Birthday, Russ
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 15, 2020, 02:29:04 pm
Thanks, Bill.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on March 16, 2020, 01:13:52 am
I could only hope to live that long and as well. Congratulations gentlemen. and Happy Birthday Russ. I do wonder, Russ, how your images are so sharp while I have to take measures to keep steady.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on March 16, 2020, 03:20:07 pm
I've been exceptionally fortunate, John. I've never had a problem with hand tremors. Even at 90 I still don't. That helps. If I'm shooting landscape I'm usually on a tripod with a five second delay between mirror up and shutter. All of that helps. So does Nik's Sharpener Pro 3.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on March 17, 2020, 10:39:05 am
Shattered ambitions of torrid, tourist pluckings: the bankrupt palace of night.

Inspired, oddly enough, by Kentucky and Justified.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 22, 2020, 01:19:55 pm
..
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on March 24, 2020, 05:38:47 am
Storm over Land's End. Sorry, no trees.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on March 24, 2020, 10:21:15 am
Very nice. (Even with no trees.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 24, 2020, 08:01:35 pm
Very nice. (Even with no trees.)

+1
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 24, 2020, 08:01:59 pm
quarantine
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on March 28, 2020, 04:22:31 pm
color
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 04, 2020, 03:12:02 pm
A couple of older cellphone shots
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 05, 2020, 12:55:28 pm
Lost, to be found
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 08, 2020, 11:41:54 am
flat
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on April 08, 2020, 12:48:50 pm
Trees!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 08, 2020, 01:38:13 pm
Lovely light.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 10, 2020, 09:30:16 am
What a difference a year makes. This time, it's like summer here, sitting on my ass beneath the toldos. Just finished my lunch of poached salmon, and delighted not to have burned a thing today - unless another one of those invisible bridges.

:-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 16, 2020, 07:46:11 pm
Directions (local park)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on April 17, 2020, 05:17:17 am
Directions (local park)

Makes sense ;-)
Well seen!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 17, 2020, 11:53:08 am
Makes sense ;-)
Well seen!

Thank you!

Last year, with the phone camera

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on April 18, 2020, 10:33:53 am
Great fall colors on that one!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 20, 2020, 08:08:03 pm
Great fall colors on that one!

Thank you Francois!

It was there for the taking, I just had to be quick. The balloon was flying quite low, I'm still not sure it avoided the trees on the next hill.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on April 21, 2020, 06:28:21 am
Yes, that must have been a quick action shot. As for the ballon, I've seen quite a few ones getting entangled in trees but most escaped miraculously…
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 21, 2020, 10:31:46 pm
waiting
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on April 22, 2020, 08:02:41 am
Superb tunnel-vision… Can't be much better!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 22, 2020, 10:00:01 am
Superb tunnel-vision… Can't be much better!
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 22, 2020, 06:00:00 pm
Some days you wake up feeling like a moth pinned to the dark side of its own analogy; but I love bad weather:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on April 22, 2020, 06:27:20 pm
Good shooting, Rob. Glad to see you back.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 22, 2020, 11:05:04 pm
Thank you Francois and Eric!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 22, 2020, 11:07:29 pm
In the park
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 23, 2020, 11:42:44 am
Some days you wake up feeling like a moth pinned to the dark side of its own analogy; but I love bad weather:
I do too, when it gives images like this one.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 24, 2020, 04:16:52 am
Russ and Eric - thanks for the kind words.

When I was young and working, I craved the golden glow of evenings on the beach; now, retired and creaking, I love bad weather that lets me delve deeply into whatever it is that hangs around inside and wants out.

Perhaps it partly explanins my indifference to all those technically brilliant atmospherics of landscape wearing it's wedding gown?

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on April 30, 2020, 09:53:47 am
Foggy sunrise
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 30, 2020, 02:31:41 pm
Nice one.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 30, 2020, 05:56:52 pm
Since I can't get out to any place interesting for photography, I've started looking over some really oldies that I still like.

First one was taken either in the late 1950s or early 1960s at the annual motorcycle races in Laconia, NH. It was the best job I ever did at panning a fast-moving object.

The second was taken in the early 1970s. My wife and I were exploring the wilds of Nova Scotia and came upon this re-purposed trackless trolley (with outhouse) in field many miles from the nearest city that might have used such vehicles.

(Oops! I should have trimmed that white edge on the motorcycle print.)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on April 30, 2020, 06:08:20 pm
Foggy sunrise

Well-caught atmosphere.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Neil Williams on April 30, 2020, 11:06:05 pm
Excuse my ignorance but what is the meaning of "without prejudice"?
Neil
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on May 01, 2020, 04:54:54 am
Excuse my ignorance but what is the meaning of "without prejudice"?
Neil

Quoting Rob C.'s brilliant initiative (https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=47908.msg398805#msg398805):

I've knocked the idea around a few times, may be worth trying to see if it sticks.

Basically, I thought it might be nice to have a spot where we can hang pix that aren't looking for 'critique', that exist just for the hell of it, and seemed to be a good idea at the time they were sketched.

I kick it off with a self portrait shot in the office by looking out of the door.
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Post by: Neil Williams on May 01, 2020, 04:58:37 am
Okay got it thanks.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 01, 2020, 12:10:23 pm
It's a great idea, and I'm going to nominate Rob C for the Nobel Prize in LuLa Thread Naming!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 01, 2020, 03:58:06 pm
Thank you Eric and Rob!

The scene was very nice, lots of fog around me. Unfortunately I was on my way to work so this was a very quick grab from the car.
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Post by: armand on May 01, 2020, 03:58:41 pm
of better times
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 01, 2020, 05:47:38 pm
Nice catch.
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Post by: Neil Williams on May 01, 2020, 09:08:41 pm
Okay got it thanks.
My Bike shot with my Chamonix 8x10
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/0f7ua5ghr8tn7p4/neil%27s-photography063.jpg?raw=1)
Neil
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 02, 2020, 04:57:50 am
It's a great idea, and I'm going to nominate Rob C for the Nobel Prize in LuLa Thread Naming!



That would be a fine conceit, but does it come with a cash reward, Eric? Cash has been known to move the world... titles bring but hubris, envy and the occasional execution.

That said, I did manage to get a washing done along with my breakfast, and it hangs in the sun to dry; the washing that is. Got to go start on the preparatory cleaning of the second half of a terrace shutter. The first half now varnished, it shames me into action for this second leg of purgatory. I long ago learned the art of doing one thing whilst living in a quite different moment. I followd a TED link someone placed yesterday and ended up looking at several; I am starting to worry about myself: I finish them and wonder what was new, what I missed. It's often a stand-up comedic retelling of old truths and even sometimes a disingenuous downplaying of talents. But it works for the people on the circuits, and the possibly bemused audiences frequently exhibit a dose of clap.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 02, 2020, 06:43:14 am
Peter's lonely cup of coffee reminded me of my own blues - which have been around for, well, how long, how long, has this lonesome train been gone...

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 02, 2020, 06:45:53 am
Thank you Eric and Rob!

The scene was very nice, lots of fog around me. Unfortunately I was on my way to work so this was a very quick grab from the car.

That's what St Ansel said about Hernandez.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on May 02, 2020, 09:40:37 am
My Bike shot with my Chamonix 8x10
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/0f7ua5ghr8tn7p4/neil%27s-photography063.jpg?raw=1)
Neil

Super nice bike…No need of colors here!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 02, 2020, 02:43:48 pm
Bike branding has changed a lot since my Raleigh Lenton of 1953...

I don't think anyone would have owned a bike with all that writing all over every available inch. Much has changed, not just in bikes but with people and how they are prepared to be seen by others. There was a sort of peak of consumer vulgarity in the 80s when people bought expensive track suits with logos on the chest and down one leg; from being absolutely ubiquitous, they have vanished without trace - at least in my neck of the woods. Dear God, does anyone remember those women in power suits, with all those vast shoulder pads? Ghastly!

Photographers who travelled a lot used to festoon their camera bags and straps with flight stickers and swing tickets etc. and I was no different in that respect: I probably rustled when I walked along with the thing over my shoulder; the strap certainly fluttered a lot and might have had the quack science benefit of scaring off mosquitoes. Cringewothy today. Or at least it makes me laugh at myself. I still own that box-like leather case but the swing tickets have long left the straps. It's never used; just another memory I don't want to - can't - put into the bin. Maybe it has a bearing on my technique of recent years of never having more than one camera and one lens with me when I venture out?

A contemporary thing that amuses me: I have worn Levi jeans, it seems, for ever; the last time I went to buy a pair they could only offer the very narrow-legged ones (not leggings) that look okay on some women but I think a bit doubtful on men. Funnily enough, as I'm pretty thin - and getting thinner - it's hard to tell whether they are narrow or not, so that's all right then. Maybe when I pop they can make do with a long pencil box? Save a lot of money and a bit of forest.

Which makes me wonder about coffins: I can get the fact that one serves a purpose in burials, but what about cremation? Do they burn the box too or is it recycled? That would make a lot of sense and save money for the clients (if they knew): coffin rentals might be the new way after recent events. I wouldn't mind very much.

;-)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 02, 2020, 06:13:44 pm
My main bike was also a Raleigh Lenton. Great bike.
Eventually I moved up to a Norton (500 cc, single cylinder) motorcycle,  and eventually to a more discreet BMW R26.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Neil Williams on May 02, 2020, 08:16:04 pm
Bike branding has changed a lot since my Raleigh Lenton of 1953...

I don't think anyone would have owned a bike with all that writing all over every available inch. Much has changed, not just in bikes but with people and how they are prepared to be seen by others. There was a sort of peak of consumer vulgarity in the 80s when people bought expensive track suits with logos on the chest and down one leg; from being absolutely ubiquitous, they have vanished without trace - at least in my neck of the woods. Dear God, does anyone remember those women in power suits, with all those vast shoulder pads? Ghastly!

Photographers who travelled a lot used to festoon their camera bags and straps with flight stickers and swing tickets etc. and I was no different in that respect: I probably rustled when I walked along with the thing over my shoulder; the strap certainly fluttered a lot and might have had the quack science benefit of scaring off mosquitoes. Cringewothy today. Or at least it makes me laugh at myself. I still own that box-like leather case but the swing tickets have long left the straps. It's never used; just another memory I don't want to - can't - put into the bin. Maybe it has a bearing on my technique of recent years of never having more than one camera and one lens with me when I venture out?

A contemporary thing that amuses me: I have worn Levi jeans, it seems, for ever; the last time I went to buy a pair they could only offer the very narrow-legged ones (not leggings) that look okay on some women but I think a bit doubtful on men. Funnily enough, as I'm pretty thin - and getting thinner - it's hard to tell whether they are narrow or not, so that's all right then. Maybe when I pop they can make do with a long pencil box? Save a lot of money and a bit of forest.

Which makes me wonder about coffins: I can get the fact that one serves a purpose in burials, but what about cremation? Do they burn the box too or is it recycled? That would make a lot of sense and save money for the clients (if they knew): coffin rentals might be the new way after recent events. I wouldn't mind very much.

;-)
I'm glad to see that my picture of my bike brought back so so many memories............Neil
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 03, 2020, 12:16:26 am
Nice catch.

Thank you Eric! Quick cellphone snap.

That's what St Ansel said about Hernandez.
Funny! I regretted not leaving a little earlier that morning so I can have a little more time to get some proper (sharper) shots. I ran this through a sharpening program, but while it did well on the foreground and middle ground, it made a mess of the branches. So I combined the two shots.
I see many nice scenes but rarely have the determination to pull the car for the shot and I am sorry later. For example last week I saw a flock of turkeys, with a nice background, with the male in full display in the middle; a little far but within the reach of the telephoto that I had with me, alas I didn't stop.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 03, 2020, 04:33:35 am
My main bike was also a Raleigh Lenton. Great bike.
Eventually I moved up to a Norton (500 cc, single cylinder) motorcycle,  and eventually to a more discreet BMW R26.

I had no idea you could buy British bikes in America; I thought you made so many of your own, especially with that strange backwards pedalling to brake. I wanted a motorbike when I was a teen, but Ann's Dad told me that no way was his daughter going on the back of any motorbike, so that one fell to Earth with a bump. Funny thing is, many years later, here in Mallorca, I bought our son a scrambles bike and she rode that one - once. It was most unreliable, and the poor kid once pushed it all the way back home to Puerto Pollensa from Formentor, which meant climbing up a long, narrow winding road from the beach, up the mountain and then down the other side again, all with tour buses clearing the way. Turned out to be a broken throttle cable which his mother replaced for him once we found a new one! Which was the same thing as happened when our daughter was at university and had gone in her mother's car - a Hillman Imp. I ended up driving out to find out what had happened to it and then to fix it. Kids! Or should that read Imps and Derbis?

Imps were nippy but also unreliable. My first one left me stranded out in the drizzle and wilds of northern England one day when the transaxle broke, and on another Imp my wife was left holding the gear stick as it came right out of the floor as she left home one morning. These were all first-owner cars. You may wonder: why buy more than one? Answer: at the price, what else was there any better? Certainly not the original Minis! I hated them. A positive for the Imp was that the opening rear window meant I could transport a 9" roll of background paper which I could not do in the Humber, the X1/9 nor the Alfa that followed that!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 03, 2020, 02:14:12 pm
a matter of zoom
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 04, 2020, 04:59:46 pm
A grim looking selfie...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on May 04, 2020, 05:32:00 pm
A grim looking selfie...

You survived that lightning strike?

;-)
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Post by: Rob C on May 04, 2020, 05:35:57 pm
A grim looking selfie...


Excellent!

Rob
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Post by: John R on May 04, 2020, 08:08:57 pm
A grim looking selfie...
Why? Because Eric, only the shadow knows.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on May 05, 2020, 05:14:55 am
You survived that lightning strike?

;-)

Eric is a superman!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 05, 2020, 05:39:53 pm
You survived that lightning strike?

;-)
My magical hat protected me.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 05, 2020, 07:36:18 pm
Welcome to Hell. Oh wait, wasn't Hell supposed to be hot?
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Post by: degrub on May 05, 2020, 09:08:08 pm
looks like Hell Norway to me  ;D
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Post by: francois on May 06, 2020, 04:55:45 am
Welcome to Hell. Oh wait, wasn't Hell supposed to be hot?

I didn't that ultra cold temperature looked like that…
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 06, 2020, 07:32:18 am
I didn't that ultra cold temperature looked like that…

Wardrobe malfunction.
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Post by: Rob C on May 09, 2020, 01:04:10 pm
The little guy got wet and died:



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Post by: RSL on May 09, 2020, 02:39:38 pm
 :-X :-X
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 16, 2020, 02:10:12 pm
A corner of the terrace this afternoon, and proof that it is damp, and that I am perfectly right to refuse to varnish any damned shutters in these adverse conditions. It may be better next week and I'll continue then. :-)

Can anyone suggest a reason why the frame should have a cross up in the corner, yet when the file is in Photoshop, it shows no such marking?

Just when you thought you knew the nature of the beast...

And now it's gone, that cross, without any input from me. And the pic looks less sharp.

Rob
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 17, 2020, 06:22:29 am
Inspired to another look into my website by Chairman Bill, I confirmed that my desperation to find something to do took me gardening (in the past - in several senses) too.

This desperation to waste not time - so sinful - is a curse that grows as does the indolence. It takes me back to when I was about thirteen or fourteen, and the pastor in the twice-on-Sundays Baptist church we had to go to as boarders spoke about something I didn't really grasp at that age, but haunts me in later life: the again bite of inwit. Conscience, and its appetite for painful nibbles.

Anyway:
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: David Eckels on May 17, 2020, 08:55:43 am
Can anyone suggest a reason why the frame should have a cross up in the corner, yet when the file is in Photoshop, it shows no such marking?
Automatic lens correction applied? Lovely image, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: David Eckels on May 17, 2020, 08:58:47 am
Insipred to another look into my website by Chairman Bill, I confirmed that my desperation to find something to do took me gardening (in the past - in several senses) too.

This desperation to waste not time - so sinful - is a curse that grows as does the indolence. It takes me back to when I was about thirteen or fourteen, and the pastor in the twice-on-Sundays Baptist church we had to go to as boarders spoke about something I didn't really grasp at that age, but haunts me in later life: the again bite of inwit. Conscience, and its appetite for painful nibbles.
Your story and the image, both achingly beautiful. Inwit; and yet it inspires.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Chairman Bill on May 17, 2020, 01:15:31 pm
My new best mate
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Post by: armand on May 17, 2020, 02:23:32 pm
Spring

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3896558754-5.jpg)


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3896558755-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 17, 2020, 03:03:02 pm
My new best mate
A real charmer.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 17, 2020, 04:47:52 pm
Automatic lens correction applied? Lovely image, Rob.

Don't know about lens corrections - it's a cropped shot from the iPad which was held against the junction of the glass and frame of the sitting room french windows. So shot through the glass, but as I find the machine impossible to keep straight, tap where to focus and to click at the same time, wedging it against the window made sense, especially as my expectations were low to begin with... (Here's a thing: in the case of french windows, I was taught that it's the exception to the rule of using a capital F; the dictionary in the computer doesn't show this - only with an F and not an f, and the old paper dictionary is the same. Anybody else heard of this exception?)

My theory is that as the image is sent to LuLa from the website via the iPad, and as the image is made without my customary white borders, perhaps the X is always there, in the weebly system, to allow the image to be closed. You know, like those arrow marks to the left or right of the image? I don't quite have this theory clear in my head, so find it difficult to explain!

;-)

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Post by: armand on May 22, 2020, 01:25:15 pm
simple

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3899572290-5.jpg)


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3899573199-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 22, 2020, 05:53:58 pm
The first one reminds me of those aerial (tuners?) bumps you see on some radio stuff on military vehicles.
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Post by: Rob C on May 22, 2020, 05:58:03 pm
Rain; I prefer "bad" weather for pictures now. Sun's so predictable and commercial... goodness, sounds like treason.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on May 22, 2020, 11:31:34 pm
First walks outdoors. During the (first?) lockdown I used to walk for one hour a day in my apartment...
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Post by: Rob C on May 23, 2020, 03:54:09 am
First walks outdoors. During the (first?) lockdown I used to walk for one hour a day in my apartment...

Exactly the same here. Fortunately, circumnavigating the terrace around obstacles gives me about 26 steps, depending on energy/temperature of the day.

I always do an hour at a stretch - as I did for years before Corinna due to cardiologist advice. I now prefer doing this exercise at home because I can do it listening to music and having a drink whenever the need arises. I alternate fifteen minutes in each direction to preserve sanity. Some days I walk for two hours non-stop, which surprises me too.

My usual time is straight after lunch, but despite the helpful toldos, the heat is starting to be too much for exercise, and I guess I'll have to alter my schedule and begin walking at about seven in the evening instead. Which is a shame, because I like watching the debates at 19:15 on france24.com and the weekly review at that time on Fridays. They both continue until 20:00. It's also peak mosquito time.

It must be a nightmare inside a tiny apartment, though. If you have a large lawn, don't use it: when I lived in Scotland we were very close to a park, and I'd walk our dog there twice a day throwing her sticks etc. and I realised that I had created a track several hundered yards long from walking so much in the same pattern in the same area! Parkies' best friend. Not!

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: muntanela on May 23, 2020, 04:38:29 am
Yes, it's tiny too… I couldn't buy an exercise bike on the web, (I have it in Lecco, but  I'm living in Sondrio since  the beginn of march). Last Saturday I did my walk from 10.52pm until 23.56 pm. Although I was wearing silent shoes, at 23.25 pm my neighbor downstairs knocked on my door. I didn't open. On Monday, when I went out to buy something to eat, I found a violent message about my lack of civility and so on...
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Post by: francois on May 23, 2020, 07:44:11 am
First walks outdoors. During the (first?) lockdown I used to walk for one hour a day in my apartment...

I'm in love with the first shot… but the second, with the very subtle pastels of the flower is also fantastic.
It was a good first walk outside and with results like these, you can be relieved and satisfied.
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Post by: petermfiore on May 23, 2020, 08:14:32 am
  I'm living in Sondrio since  the beginn of march).

Do you live near the Piazza Garibaldi?

Peter
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Post by: muntanela on May 23, 2020, 09:11:51 am
Thanks Francois, during the shots of the Gentiana acaulis, I heard for some minutes dull noises, only at the end I realized that stones were falling  on the  track  at a distance of twenty meters from me. But the fall was ceasing,  so I continued to shoot and the last photos were really the best.

Do you live near the Piazza Garibaldi?

Peter


I live not far from Piazza Garibaldi, in Lungomallero Diaz, along the Mallero which is  a mountain creek. Do you know Sondrio?
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 23, 2020, 03:27:48 pm
From a recent walk in my own yard.
Lilac, Cherry Laurel, Rhododemdron, and Lily of the Valley.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 23, 2020, 03:28:35 pm
And one more: Rhubarb almost ready to harvest.
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Post by: petermfiore on May 23, 2020, 04:43:38 pm
 
I live not far from Piazza Garibaldi, in Lungomallero Diaz, along the Mallero which is  a mountain creek. Do you know Sondrio?

I was there ten years ago, passing thru. My wife and I stopped for quick bite. I have no idea the name of the small ristorante. We very much enjoyed our meal and went happily on our way.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on May 26, 2020, 04:13:39 pm
Looking at what passes for a lawn, this morning, wondering when/if the gardener will come back after Corinna goes away. This caught my eye; on the 2.8/180mm Nikkor wide open:



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 26, 2020, 06:45:55 pm
The pandemic seems to be good for your creativity, Rob.
Keep it up!
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Post by: Rob C on May 27, 2020, 09:18:20 am
The pandemic seems to be good for your creativity, Rob.
Keep it up!


How unkind! Keeping it up long enough to be worth the effort is often, but not always (now I sound like Leiter!), one of the collateral damage effects of heart problems. Anyway, by now, it's academic. Which reminds me: sixty years to the day of my nuptials.

I had to dress like a doorman at the Ritz, so in silent revenge, I have espoused the clobber of the slob ever since. Long live Levi! Can't remember when I last ironed a T-shirt - or anything else, for that matter.

:-)
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Post by: RSL on May 27, 2020, 09:47:33 am
The pandemic seems to be good for your creativity, Rob.
Keep it up!

+1. And I've read your complaints to Eric, Rob.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 27, 2020, 10:23:26 am
Rob,

Photographing whatever moves you is a much better use of your time than ironing tee shirts.
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Post by: Rob C on May 27, 2020, 12:02:42 pm
Rob,

Photographing whatever moves you is a much better use of your time than ironing tee shirts.

In my first studio I used to have an antique gold frame for paintings. As I didn't have or want paintings there, I took one of those very realistic plastic fried eggs that were around in the 60s - obviously not for eating - and framed that. I called it Motherhood. I thought that was very significant and loaded with meaning. Nobody thought it funny or asked me what it was supposed to be about. Maybe they were being super-cool. Or just polite.

;-(
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 27, 2020, 07:57:31 pm
I hope you at least have a photo off it.
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Post by: Rob C on May 28, 2020, 04:05:38 am
I hope you at least have a photo off it.


Nah, not even of the studio itself. Just as I have almost no pix of the family and even fewer from my fashion years. At least with the fashion and advertising stuff, I tried to sell off to the clients what negs and trannies I could before I left Britain, but what nobody felt they wanted to preserve for posterity - then neither did I, so I destroyed it. Today, of course, with photography being an art, it's obvious we were all crazy back then to take it for granted and of no value past publication date. Websites? What were they - spider infestations?

Of course, had I remained in Britain, there would have been no need to get rid of anything. But then I wouldn't have ended up being me, if you see what I think I mean; I'd still have been him.

;-(
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 28, 2020, 10:56:09 am
But then I wouldn't have ended up being me, if you see what I think I mean; I'd still have been him.

;-(
I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes it would be nice to be able to rewind and edit the earlier life a bit...
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Post by: Rob C on May 28, 2020, 12:15:07 pm
I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes it would be nice to be able to rewind and edit the earlier life a bit...

Especially if we could know then what we know now.

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Post by: petermfiore on May 30, 2020, 08:03:22 am
Especially if we could know then what we know now.

The great HUMAN lament...

Peter
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Post by: Rob C on May 30, 2020, 09:21:31 am
The great HUMAN lament...

Peter
 

I think that the greatest lesson we should perhaps all have learned as young professionals was this: always consider the other person's point of view, and don't confuse the gig with your gig.

:-(
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 30, 2020, 11:30:21 am
Fallen

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3903266528-4.jpg)


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3903266526-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: petermfiore on May 30, 2020, 12:02:16 pm
 

I think that the greatest lesson we should perhaps all have learned as young professionals was this: always consider the other person's point of view, and don't confuse the gig with your gig.

:-(
I learned that as a child...My dad always taught to consider the other....It has been a  most rewarding lesson.

Peter
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Rob C on June 01, 2020, 11:36:29 am
Quickie shot whilst making lunch; actually, all that's left of yesterday's lunch:



Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on June 01, 2020, 12:44:14 pm
Tasty, tasty, very very, tasty!
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 01, 2020, 01:34:43 pm
Tasty, tasty, very very, tasty!
What he said.
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Post by: Rob C on June 03, 2020, 05:06:08 pm
Lockdown stress.

I have had the occasional bat fly into the apartment at night. I think it must come in through the ventilation grille in the kitchen. In case it happens again and makes its way to the office, and the thing is rabid (a risk with bats now and then), I thought I'd offer it a visible token of friendship.

The poster was an 80s Ektachrome shot on the Alcudia beach for a tour operator, the model the wife of an often absent rig-worker. She had a beautiful Alsatian pooch which never left her side. It never needed a lead, even on the sidewalk. She was safe.

It was one of the few 6x7 shots that ever earned a penny for me. It was also my first 6x7, a Bronica. The optic was a 250mm. The other lenses I had, a normal and a wide, were dreadful. My later Pentax 6x7 had better glass but I found the entire camera enjoyed bouncing, both with mirror and shutter. Exit time. Back to basics and 135 Kodachrome.

It was a shame about that Pentax: it looked beautifully built and felt wonderful.
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Post by: Chairman Bill on June 19, 2020, 06:30:14 pm
From this afternoon's walk
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Post by: degrub on June 19, 2020, 08:25:49 pm
Most excellent ! Reminds me of summer at my great grandmother’s wheat farm as a kid.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 20, 2020, 01:30:10 pm
Yes, excellent indeed.
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Post by: RSL on June 20, 2020, 02:39:53 pm
+1
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Post by: francois on June 23, 2020, 08:33:01 am
Great lines and clouds… I can smell the fields… well almost!
Good job.
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Post by: armand on July 05, 2020, 11:58:14 am
I never really care about shooting fireworks but every year, at the last moment, I decide to grab a camera and a tripod and try to photograph some from the neighborhood. As I don't get ready I have way more failures than achievements, but some turn out ok. Few from last night.

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Post by: RSL on July 05, 2020, 03:07:07 pm
Vacancy
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Post by: Chairman Bill on July 06, 2020, 08:24:42 am
Our local beach - Kilve

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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 06, 2020, 10:44:30 am
Nice one, Bill.
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Post by: Chairman Bill on July 08, 2020, 05:21:55 am
The last Foxglove. All the rest in the garden have now had their day. 'Til next year ...
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Post by: RSL on July 08, 2020, 08:22:20 am
Beautiful, Bill.
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Post by: Chairman Bill on July 08, 2020, 08:25:29 am
Thanks, Russ. I'm touched. What do you think of the photo? :-)
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Post by: RSL on July 08, 2020, 10:32:10 am
It's pretty good too, Bill.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 08, 2020, 01:45:44 pm
It's pretty good too, Bill.
+1 to both answers.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 11, 2020, 11:40:11 am
Since I'm not getting out much these days, I'm going to start posting older stuff that I think I haven't posted on LuLa.
Here are two early images.

The first was taken around 1960 in Boston, MA, at night, on Atlantic Avenue, with an early Pentax SLR, hand-held (leaning against a telephone pole for support.) The railroad tracks have been gone for at least forty years.

The second was a few years later in Cambridge, MA, with a Calumet 4x5" view camera on tripod.
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Post by: KLaban on July 11, 2020, 12:04:32 pm
Since I'm not getting out much these days, I'm going to start posting older stuff that I think I haven't posted on LuLa.
Here are two early images.

The first was taken around 1960 in Boston, MA, at night, on Atlantic Avenue, with an early Pentax SLR, hand-held (leaning against a telephone pole for support.) The railroad tracks have been gone for at least forty years.

The second was a few years later in Cambridge, MA, with a Calumet 4x5" view camera on tripod.

Eric, I particularly like the first. I must admit I'm a sucker for these period railroad images.
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Post by: RSL on July 11, 2020, 12:09:39 pm
+1
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 11, 2020, 12:46:57 pm
Thanks Keith and Russ. I am always amazed that that shot came out as well as it did, given my primitive equipment (no tripod) and photographic naivete at that time.
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Post by: armand on July 13, 2020, 09:11:53 pm
Since I'm not getting out much these days, I'm going to start posting older stuff that I think I haven't posted on LuLa.
Here are two early images.

The first was taken around 1960 in Boston, MA, at night, on Atlantic Avenue, with an early Pentax SLR, hand-held (leaning against a telephone pole for support.) The railroad tracks have been gone for at least forty years.

The second was a few years later in Cambridge, MA, with a Calumet 4x5" view camera on tripod.

I find the second very appealing!
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Post by: armand on July 13, 2020, 09:12:17 pm
Photobomb

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Post by: RSL on July 14, 2020, 10:23:49 am
Good grab, Armand.
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Post by: armand on July 14, 2020, 08:28:02 pm
Thank you Russ!
I was planning to photograph just the leaf when fortuitously the dragonfly landed.
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Post by: armand on July 14, 2020, 08:28:58 pm
Decisions

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Post by: armand on July 15, 2020, 07:46:05 pm
Reflection

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Post by: francois on July 16, 2020, 05:46:48 am
Decisions

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I think that both are undecided… It's a very nice shot, I like it.
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Post by: armand on July 18, 2020, 01:34:35 pm
Thank you Francois!


Still life (sort of)

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Post by: Chris Kern on July 18, 2020, 08:04:07 pm
Since I'm not getting out much these days, I'm going to start posting older stuff

I've also been reviewing some older images made in what was, for me, the early digital era, and either reprocessing them or in some cases processing them for the first time.  I've attached four from early 2012, all made with the outstanding Nikon D90.

(1) Winter Sun, Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA (Lightroom monochrome conversion);
(2) Shadow of Its Former Self, Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, USA (processed for the first time with current rev of desktop LR―a.k.a., "Classic");
(3) River Street Café, Savannah, Georgia, USA (reprocessed with current rev of desktop LR);
(4) Pylon and Lunasphere, Bethesda, Maryland, USA (couldn't improve on contemporary DxO+Photoshop processing).

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Post by: RSL on July 19, 2020, 09:27:25 am
Good shooting, Chris.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 19, 2020, 09:37:19 am
That's a fine set, Chris.
My favorite is the house with its "shadow" addition.
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Post by: sdwilsonsct on July 19, 2020, 10:29:27 am
The second was a few years later in Cambridge, MA, with a Calumet 4x5" view camera on tripod.

Good seeing, Eric!
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Post by: Chris Kern on July 19, 2020, 10:30:43 am
My favorite is the house with its "shadow" addition.

It's ironic that I never really noticed that one myself until the other day, when I was reviewing some of my older digital captures.  I was shooting so much to find out what I could do with a "high-resolution" digital camera that I often didn't take the time for more than a cursory look at the results.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 20, 2020, 09:57:30 am
Good seeing, Eric!
Thanks, Scott.
My view camera and tripod days are long over.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 20, 2020, 10:01:22 am
It's ironic that I never really noticed that one myself until the other day, when I was reviewing some of my older digital captures.  I was shooting so much to find out what I could do with a "high-resolution" digital camera that I often didn't take the time for more than a cursory look at the results.
I know the feeling, Chris. Each day that I shoot anything, I always save all the images in a dated folder, and immediately pick the "best" ones which I place in a subfolder.

From time to time I look back at the originals from years back, and I find gems that I never considered processing the first time around.

-Eric
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Post by: Chris Kern on July 20, 2020, 03:52:01 pm
Another set of recently-rediscovered images, these from the first half of 2011.

(1) Waiting for Airplanes to Land, Chantilly, Virginia;
(2) Special, Glen Echo, Maryland;
(3) Katie’s Flower Pot, Washington, D.C.;
(4) Painting in the Park, Great Falls, Maryland.
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Post by: armand on July 21, 2020, 06:33:49 pm
Vacancy

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Post by: Chris Kern on July 21, 2020, 08:32:07 pm
Still working my way backwards in time.  Now 2010.  The attachments:

(1) Oculus, Huntington Library, San Marino, California, USA;
(2) District Dog, Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C., USA;
(3) Last Light at 35,000 Feet, United Airlines flight, somewhere over Illinois, USA;
(4) Pigeons on Thatched Roof, Jimbaran, Bali, Indonesia.
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Post by: armand on July 22, 2020, 11:32:46 am
Iron dog


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Post by: Chris Kern on July 22, 2020, 04:13:19 pm
Another trio―these from the end of 2010―made during my one and (so far) only visit to Bali:

(1) Sweeping Up, Ubud, Bali, Indonesia;
(2) Temple Door, Ubud, Bali, Indonesia;
(3) Ketut Badra, Ubud, Bali, Indonesia.  Knowing my limitations, I usually confine my portrait shooting to grandchildren, but Ketut* Badra, an art dealer in Ubud, had a serene intensity that begged to be captured by the camera.

―――
*Balinese birth-order name for a fourth child.  The young man who drove us around Bali was also a Ketut.  My wife and I gasped as he wove in and out of traffic, often passing within inches of clusters of motor scooters that were sharing the narrow roads, but he rarely even slowed down and he never nicked a single one.
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Post by: RSL on July 23, 2020, 02:23:04 pm
Good shooting, Chris, especially the first.
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Post by: Chris Kern on July 23, 2020, 06:24:39 pm
Good shooting, Chris, especially the first.

Thanks.  Right place, right time, decent reflexes, and the picture almost takes itself.
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Post by: Chris Kern on July 23, 2020, 06:28:57 pm
I finally have worked my way back in time in my Lightroom catalog to the beginning of my "serious" digital era: 2008 and 2009.

I had been using consumer point-and-shoot digital cameras for family snapshots and travel mementos since they first appeared on the market―my brother was working for Fujifilm in that era and he kept me supplied with their evolving product line, purchased with his employee discount―but it was only after I acquired a Nikon D40 DSLR that it dawned on me that I could use a digital camera the way I had used a 35mm camera during my youth.  (I also shot medium format and 4x5 film with borrowed cameras when I was in high school and college.  But after I started working, I had neither the time nor the space to set up a darkroom―and I certainly didn't have the money to pay a lab to process film and make prints for me.)

We all tend to say that the camera is the least important contribution to making good photographs, but that 6 Mpx D40 was the inducement that made me resume trying to make pictures that might be interesting to viewers other than myself and my family.  It was also small enough and light enough to carry when my wife and I were traveling, which we did on a shoestring (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/on-a-shoestring) in those days since we were saving as much as we could in anticipation of retirement.

OK, enough backstory.  The attached images:

(1) Erin at Five, Washington, D.C., 2008;
(2) Blue Door, New Orleans, Louisiana, 2008;
(3) Monticello South Pavilion from Dome Room, Charlottesville, Virginia, 2009;
(4) Purple Parasol, Santa Fe, New Mexico, 2009.
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Post by: armand on July 23, 2020, 08:52:06 pm
Trio

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Post by: armand on July 24, 2020, 12:44:19 pm
Duo


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Post by: armand on July 25, 2020, 08:32:47 pm
Shore


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Post by: armand on July 27, 2020, 12:07:04 pm
Entrance

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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 30, 2020, 05:39:04 pm
OK, here's a new one from me, on a woods walk a couple of days ago.

I just read an interesting news report about van Gogh's last painting, "Tree Roots," so I'm posting this as an homage to him.

Here is the article, for those interested: https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/van-gogh-s-last-painting (https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/van-gogh-s-last-painting)

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Post by: John R on July 30, 2020, 08:59:31 pm
OK, here's a new one from me, on a woods walk a couple of days ago.

I just read an interesting news report about van Gogh's last painting, "Tree Roots," so I'm posting this as an homage to him.

Here is the article, for those interested: https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/van-gogh-s-last-painting (https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/van-gogh-s-last-painting)
This one is very elegant and the tonality rendition is excellent, Eric.
I also enjoyed the Van Gogh Story on the roots painting. I get to see the classic paintings as large posters whenever I visit my mother at the long term care facility. It really is a treat to see Van Gogh, Monet and others as one metre wide prints!

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 31, 2020, 11:12:55 am
Thanks John.

I became a fan of van Gogh several years ago when I visited the van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam. Seeing a big collection of his paintings at one time I felt I finally began to "get" what he was about.
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Post by: David Eckels on July 31, 2020, 11:22:28 am
Yes! Excellent, Eric. Envious.
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Post by: RSL on July 31, 2020, 11:55:46 am
+1
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 01, 2020, 10:29:06 am
Thanks, guys.
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Post by: armand on August 10, 2020, 06:48:58 pm
Mommy issues

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Post by: armand on September 05, 2020, 11:09:28 am
Resolving mommy issues?


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Post by: RSL on September 05, 2020, 11:33:44 am
 8) 8) ;D
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Post by: Chairman Bill on September 05, 2020, 03:20:41 pm
A monochrome study of some foliage
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Post by: armand on September 05, 2020, 05:26:46 pm
A monochrome study of some foliage

This is awesome!
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 05, 2020, 08:17:01 pm
This is awesome!
+1.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 05, 2020, 08:17:26 pm
8) 8) ;D
+1.
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Post by: John R on September 05, 2020, 11:47:29 pm
This is awesome!
Quite so, Bill!

JR
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Post by: Chairman Bill on September 08, 2020, 12:29:00 pm
Thanks, all. Much appreciated.

Gorse, Great Bear, Quantock Hills.
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Post by: RSL on September 08, 2020, 03:01:53 pm
Beautiful, Bill. Both of 'em.
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Post by: Chairman Bill on September 08, 2020, 03:07:41 pm
Thanks, Russ
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Post by: John R on September 08, 2020, 06:04:12 pm
Really fine Bill. Lots of depth from near to far. And atmosphere, like a meadow we all want to wade through.

JR
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 11, 2020, 08:21:23 am
The things one finds, just off the beaten path...
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Post by: John R on September 11, 2020, 08:05:57 pm
I see the master of bw toning is back. Excellent series, John B.

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 12, 2020, 10:19:03 am
Great set, JNB.
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Post by: armand on September 12, 2020, 05:09:33 pm
Thanks, all. Much appreciated.

Gorse, Great Bear, Quantock Hills.

Lovely! Makes me want to go there.
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Post by: armand on September 12, 2020, 05:10:43 pm
The things one finds, just off the beaten path...

Interesting, there is definitely value on going off the beaten path.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 13, 2020, 08:36:21 am
Thank-you, gents. John R., I find that getting the balance between B&W tonality and sharpness isn't always easy, especially with modern lenses and digital sensors. Ideally, one wants both things (when they are appropriate). I have done a few experiments with adapted vintage lenses, such as the 45-year-old Konica 57mm used for the image below. It can be interesting to do, and the 'look' of vintage glass is different, but I'm not sure my post processing was any quicker. Still learning after all these years.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 13, 2020, 08:43:37 am
The Lunenburg Memorial: Dedicated to the memory of those who have gone down to the sea in ships, and who have never returned. I'm still working on maintaining that balance with bright-light, high-contrast pictures.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 14, 2020, 08:51:15 am
Old Age Security (Canadian seniors will understand  ;) ). Once again, playing with an adapted vintage lens (Vivitar 90mm macro in Konica AR mount) that someone gave to me for free.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 14, 2020, 09:58:12 am
These are all quite gorgeous on screen.
I would love to see good sized prints of these, say perhaps 16x20".
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 14, 2020, 05:35:47 pm
These are all quite gorgeous on screen.
I would love to see good sized prints of these, say perhaps 16x20".

Thanks, Eric. My own printer went "blll?pthzzz!#.." one day and started spraying black ink everywhere. Repair quote was steep, shipping to repair exorbitant, and I was steamed that it was just out of warranty, and I didn't really get the value out of it before its demise. However, I do have a friend who bought a 24" wide Epson a while back...
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 15, 2020, 11:32:07 am
A couple new ones from me.
Sun spot, and the Troll's lair.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 15, 2020, 11:34:19 am
And two from Newton Cemetery.
The second is a reflection on a pond.
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Post by: francois on September 15, 2020, 12:09:58 pm
I love the last one (reflection)…
Well done!
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 15, 2020, 04:55:07 pm
Thanks, Francois.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 15, 2020, 07:23:03 pm
I love the last one (reflection)…
Well done!

+1
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Post by: John R on September 15, 2020, 10:14:57 pm
+1
+2

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 16, 2020, 10:07:02 am
Thanks guys.

I considered turning the reflection upside down, so the "temple" would be right side up, but I like it the way it is.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 19, 2020, 07:35:28 am
Burntcoat Head, Nova Scotia, on the Bay of Fundy. Highest tides in the world, with an average of 47.5 feet and an extreme of 53.6 feet. At low tide (pictured here) one can walk out onto the ocean floor for quite some distance. At high tide – well, you can see the water line on the shore and "island" at left. Twice each day the Bay of Fundy fills and empties its 160 billion tons of water.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 19, 2020, 07:36:16 pm
Good catch, JNB.
It's fun to watch the tidal bore as it comes in.It's this steady wave, only about a couple of feet high, moving swiftly inland, but the water level behind it rises at a stunning rate.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 19, 2020, 08:00:41 pm
It's fun to watch the tidal bore as it comes in.

I think there are five outfits that run tidal bore rafting on the Shubenacadie River, where the Bay of Fundy narrows so quickly.
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Post by: Rayyan on September 20, 2020, 07:09:58 am
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Post by: Chairman Bill on September 22, 2020, 01:12:45 pm
This morning started clear and bright, and then a band of low cloud moved in and I managed to grab this one before the sun dispersed the fog
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Post by: John R on September 22, 2020, 02:30:50 pm
Rayyan images...
Rayyan, you do excellent people and environmental people photography!

JR
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Post by: John R on September 22, 2020, 02:34:11 pm
This morning started clear and bright, and then a band of low cloud moved in and I managed to grab this one before the sun dispersed the fog
This one has fantastic atmosphere. Well done.

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 22, 2020, 07:07:12 pm
This one has fantastic atmosphere. Well done.

JR
+1.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 23, 2020, 10:25:36 pm
Lunenburg Harbour, big and small...
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Post by: John R on September 24, 2020, 12:20:06 am
Lunenburg Harbour, big and small...
Lovely John B. Brings back memories of when I visited Nova Scotia, the east coast place I liked best. 

JR
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Post by: Rayyan on September 25, 2020, 12:18:26 pm

John, thank you so very much for stopping by.

Kindest regards.

Rayyan, you do excellent people and environmental people photography!

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 26, 2020, 09:45:18 am
Lunenburg Harbour, big and small...
Fine set.
I'd love to get back to Lunenburg soon. With luck, maybe next summer???

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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 29, 2020, 02:20:48 pm
Fine set.
I'd love to get back to Lunenburg soon. With luck, maybe next summer???

We certainly hope so. While we are grateful for the relative success of our provincial Covid-19 response and 'Atlantic bubble', tourism is a vital part of our economy.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 29, 2020, 02:22:55 pm
Foggy days on the south shore.

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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 29, 2020, 02:24:57 pm
Fog bank on the Bay of Fundy (Hampton Harbour and Parkers Cove)
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Post by: John R on September 29, 2020, 11:07:49 pm
Splendid series John B. I especially like the first two and the last images. They are classic but excellent fog scenes. The fishing villages are alive!

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 29, 2020, 11:55:42 pm
Wonderful set!
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Post by: JNB_Rare on September 30, 2020, 09:49:08 am
Wharf post detail. Cottage Cove, the Bay of Fundy.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 01, 2020, 06:19:54 pm
Morning walk. Life in the rock cut (local trail, former rail line). Leaf at the river's edge.
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Post by: John R on October 01, 2020, 10:02:33 pm
Morning walk. Life in the rock cut (local trail, former rail line). Leaf at the river's edge.
These are excellent autumn images. It's nice they left the abandoned rail lines for trails. Wish the Government had to sense make all the abandoned lines into trails and parks.

JR
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Post by: RSL on October 02, 2020, 11:09:57 am
+1
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 02, 2020, 01:49:17 pm
Thank-you, gents. The rails to trails program is certainly a good use of the pathways. With the exception of the line into Halifax from out-of-province, the railways and inter-town bus lines have mostly disappeared. A few old terminals have been repurposed (museums and other uses) and, here and there, other vestiges of the railroad can be found.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 04, 2020, 07:24:47 pm
This morning's walk was in Kejimkujic National Park, here in Nova Scotia. The autumn colours need another 1-2 weeks to mature, but it was a fine day for a walk nonetheless.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 04, 2020, 08:08:21 pm
I've been to the Coastal Kejimkujik twice, but only once to the original, inland one. Both are gorgeous, and I hope to get back again before too many more years.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: KLaban on October 05, 2020, 04:16:22 am
This morning's walk was in Kejimkujic National Park, here in Nova Scotia. The autumn colours need another 1-2 weeks to mature, but it was a fine day for a walk nonetheless.

John Constable's very own light.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on October 05, 2020, 06:02:16 am
This morning's walk was in Kejimkujic National Park, here in Nova Scotia. The autumn colours need another 1-2 weeks to mature, but it was a fine day for a walk nonetheless.

Wonderful, it looks like a painting - and a very fine one!
Bravo
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Post by: John R on October 05, 2020, 11:49:09 am
John Constable's very own light.
I do like the light, which looks like a soft light through clouds because I can also blue sky.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: RSL on October 05, 2020, 02:21:28 pm
John Constable's very own light.

Right Keith. Now all we need is a wagon.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 05, 2020, 08:06:44 pm
I do like the light, which looks like a soft light through clouds because I can also blue sky.

JR

It was a shot just before we had to leave, and the light had actually changed for the better (wouldn't you know?). A bit earlier (just a couple of context shots):

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Post by: John R on October 05, 2020, 10:43:52 pm
It was a shot just before we had to leave, and the light had actually changed for the better (wouldn't you know?). A bit earlier (just a couple of context shots):
Now that's a park worth visiting!

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 06, 2020, 08:09:49 am
Sometimes nature is just like this – messy, chaotic, decaying. Still, there are hints of life, and colour and texture to be found. Is it enough for a successful image?
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 06, 2020, 10:05:48 am
Sometimes nature is just like this – messy, chaotic, decaying. Still, there are hints of life, and colour and texture to be found. Is it enough for a successful image?
I think it is wonderful. The combination of all the elements is not only beautifully lit, but the arrangement is well organized; as you said it tells a story of the life cycle of the plants. Will it win awards, not likely.

JR
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Post by: RSL on October 06, 2020, 10:10:10 am
Sometimes nature is just like this – messy, chaotic, decaying. Still, there are hints of life, and colour and texture to be found. Is it enough for a successful image?

Great array of colors and textures, Rare.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 09, 2020, 08:39:35 am
Brownie Day:

The very first camera I was ever allowed to use was the family's Kodak Brownie, on a school outing. I'm not sure which Brownie model it was, but it likely had a simple meniscus lens, well-polished by my Dad's tie. I took pictures of anything and everything (all 12 of them). The pictures couldn't have been very good, because I wasn't allowed to use the camera again (processing was expensive). But I remember how excited and joyful I felt taking those pictures. Earlier this year (pandemically-bored) I decided to try recreating that feeling. I put my Olympus in square format, mounted a cheap Chinese lens that, while vastly superior to the meniscus, exhibits edge softness and aberrations aplenty, and walked around our small town to see what I could see.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 09, 2020, 06:05:52 pm
Delightful set! Ah, the good old days when nobady talked about "pixels" or ...
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 11, 2020, 02:27:38 pm
Autumn colours are beginning to blaze.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 11, 2020, 04:39:26 pm
Brownie Day:

The very first camera I was ever allowed to use was the family's Kodak Brownie, on a school outing. I'm not sure which Brownie model it was, but it likely had a simple meniscus lens, well-polished by my Dad's tie. I took pictures of anything and everything (all 12 of them). The pictures couldn't have been very good, because I wasn't allowed to use the camera again (processing was expensive). But I remember how excited and joyful I felt taking those pictures. Earlier this year (pandemically-bored) I decided to try recreating that feeling. I put my Olympus in square format, mounted a cheap Chinese lens that, while vastly superior to the meniscus, exhibits edge softness and aberrations aplenty, and walked around our small town to see what I could see.
I had Kodak 126! Good thing because I didn't know what I was doing. Love these, John B. It is interesting that you chose the square format vs cropping toa square. Excellent work.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 11, 2020, 04:41:59 pm
Autumn colours are beginning to blaze.
More excellent autumn images. I could only see scenes like these in the Haliburton or Algonquin Highlands. Three to four hours away!

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 12, 2020, 07:30:27 pm
Fall snake

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Post by: francois on October 13, 2020, 06:37:28 am
Fall snake




Excellent catch, you have good eyes!
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 13, 2020, 08:34:20 am
Excellent catch, you have good eyes!

+1
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Post by: armand on October 13, 2020, 08:58:07 am
Thank you both!
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Post by: John R on October 13, 2020, 09:13:46 am
+1
Yes, another good one. I have seen two snakes this year, neither was that big!

JR
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 13, 2020, 11:00:25 am
Kejimkujic National Park, 1 week later. More colour on yesterday morning's walk.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 13, 2020, 11:02:06 am
Waterman's Lake (on the way home from Keji).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 13, 2020, 01:30:07 pm
Yes, another good one. I have seen two snakes this year, neither was that big!

JR

Thank you!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 13, 2020, 01:31:09 pm
Ominous self portrait

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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 15, 2020, 07:05:55 pm
Ominous self portrait

I like it.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 15, 2020, 07:10:51 pm
Snyder's Shipyard. There is a fence and locked gate on the dock that blocks access to a perspective from the front of the sunken boat. So I tried a multi-shot stitched panorama (handheld).
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Post by: francois on October 16, 2020, 06:37:20 am
Snyder's Shipyard. There is a fence and locked gate on the dock that blocks access to a perspective from the front of the sunken boat. So I tried a multi-shot stitched panorama (handheld).

Superb and so clean…
Well done!
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Post by: John R on October 16, 2020, 09:33:47 am
I like it.
It's very good well seen.

JR
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 20, 2020, 08:31:50 am
Our local photo club visited a "traditional farm" nearby last Saturday. The weather turned rainy, but the colours were splendid. The farm only allows 20 pre-booked people on site each morning or afternoon, and was well organized for Covid-19 safety.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 20, 2020, 09:42:35 am
A very nice set of images.
We still have a few similarly traditional farms in New England, but they are fast disappearing.
I still miss the old farmers we got acquainted with some forty years ago when we had a summer place in farm country in Western Massachusetts. They are long gone.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 20, 2020, 10:18:27 am
A very nice set of images.
We still have a few similarly traditional farms in New England, but they are fast disappearing.
I still miss the old farmers we got acquainted with some forty years ago when we had a summer place in farm country in Western Massachusetts. They are long gone.

Fortunately, our Province has invested in this particular place (Ross Farm in New Ross), and erected an interpretive centre at the entrance. The "actors" are local volunteers who do work the farm and look after the animals year round. The blacksmith has one of the last ox harnesses for shoeing (they actually lift the ox off the ground!), and still does a good business shoeing animals for the ox and horse pulls that are popular in the spring and summer exhibitions.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 22, 2020, 10:11:51 am
Mist and rain, rural Nova Scotia.
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Post by: armand on October 22, 2020, 10:27:48 am
Mist and rain, rural Nova Scotia.

Excellent, the mood is perfect!
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Post by: RSL on October 22, 2020, 10:32:49 am
Mist and rain, rural Nova Scotia.

Two lovely shots, Rare. Bravo!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 22, 2020, 11:08:17 am
Two lovely shots, Rare. Bravo!
These are really fine, John! One question, do you use a rain cover for the camera gear when photographing in the rain? My Pentax is almost waterproof. But if you don't have a corresponding water resistant lens the rain will creep between the lens mount and camera.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 22, 2020, 11:18:40 am
Fall patterns

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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 22, 2020, 03:39:37 pm
Mist and rain, rural Nova Scotia.
Both very excellent.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 22, 2020, 03:41:12 pm
Fall patterns

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Nice set. My favorite is the first.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 22, 2020, 10:08:58 pm
These are really fine, John! One question, do you use a rain cover for the camera gear when photographing in the rain? My Pentax is almost waterproof. But if you don't have a corresponding water resistant lens the rain will creep between the lens mount and camera.

JR

Yes, I do use a rain cover even though I have weather-proof bodies and some weather-proof lenses. It depends on the amount of precipitation, though. Light mist or sprinkling rain is usually not a problem. But for anything harder, I'll use the camera 'raincoat'. I also use a Billingham bag which is weather proof, and allows me to whip the camera out, and put it back in quickly, rather than having it on a strap out in the rain. A couple of years ago I was photographing in the rain without the raincoat, and I guess a drop got in around the EVF eyepiece. Suddenly, the EVF stopped working (and I use that almost exclusively, rather than the LCD). Fortunately, it dried out and worked fine. But I learned to take manufacturers' claims with a grain of salt.  :)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 22, 2020, 10:14:57 pm
Wild, vibrant colour this year. More vibrant than usual it seems. In fact, on some pictures I find I'm using a bit of negative saturation and vibrance.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on October 23, 2020, 07:54:18 am
Wild, vibrant colour this year. More vibrant than usual it seems. In fact, on some pictures I find I'm using a bit of negative saturation and vibrance.
Excellent John. This year is the best for colour that I can recall. Even Toronto is full of colour. Perhaps because the summer was so dry for most vegetation and trees. Where are these taken? They sure remind me of Algonquin Park, Oxtongue Rapids and Hastings Highlands areas, all in North-Central Ontario.

JR
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 23, 2020, 08:09:06 am
Excellent John. This year is the best for colour that I can recall. Even Toronto is full of colour. Perhaps because the summer was so dry for most vegetation and trees. Where are these taken? They sure remind me of Algonquin Park, Oxtongue Rapids and Hastings Highlands areas, all in North-Central Ontario.

JR

Thanks, John. I was afraid the dry summer might ruin the colours, but it certainly didn't. About 10 days ago, we had a series of warmish days with cold nights. Perhaps that 'triggered' all the trees at the same time. The above pics were taken at or near Nictaux Falls (Annapolis Valley). Autumn has always been my favourite season – it's certainly gorgeous in the places you mention (I was born in Smith Falls, Ontario and lived in T.O. for many years).
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on October 23, 2020, 06:02:20 pm
Once there was a lake


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Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: JNB_Rare on October 24, 2020, 02:46:58 pm
Once there was a lake

I can't read the sign, but the title suggests there's a story here.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 24, 2020, 02:49:07 pm
Random finds.
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Post by: RSL on October 24, 2020, 03:16:06 pm
Once there was a lake

The second one's a classic, Armand. Good shooting.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 25, 2020, 02:47:13 pm
Great set, JNB.
My favorites are the first two.
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Post by: Chairman Bill on October 25, 2020, 03:04:20 pm
A misty Quantock Hills, in colour. Shock! Horror!
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Post by: RSL on October 25, 2020, 03:06:27 pm
Lovely, Bill.
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on October 25, 2020, 03:50:34 pm
A misty Quantock Hills, in colour. Shock! Horror!

Lovely. A lot less ominous than your gloomy monochromes.

Jeremy
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Post by: John R on October 26, 2020, 12:12:56 am
Fabulous Bill. Did you add something to increase the "glow."

JR
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Post by: Chairman Bill on October 26, 2020, 05:35:38 am
Fabulous Bill. Did you add something to increase the "glow."

JR

I added a 'Sunlight' filter in Color Efex to the far distance just to lighten and give it a more golden appearance, then reduced the saturation overall which brought that back to a more normal state. That will have introduced some 'glow', but not a lot and only in the centre background. Anything else is down to the mist and the sunlight starting to show through.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 26, 2020, 07:03:46 am
A misty Quantock Hills, in colour. Shock! Horror!

Classic beauty!
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Post by: armand on October 26, 2020, 09:22:42 am
I can't read the sign, but the title suggests there's a story here.

There was a lake on Kalamazoo river, behind a dam. The company that operates the dam decided that it needs repairs and emptied the lake.  The problem was it did on its plan/schedule and sent downstream a lot of mud, wreaking havoc. Kalamazoo river being already polluted upstream from a diluted bitumen spill, which had the bad habit (as opposed to regular oil spills) to sink and stay on the bottom. After many cleanup projects it's still not safe to eat fish from there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalamazoo_River_oil_spill

The second one's a classic, Armand. Good shooting.

Thank you Russ
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Post by: armand on October 26, 2020, 06:15:09 pm
..

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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 27, 2020, 09:26:04 am
Lovely, Bill.
+1.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 27, 2020, 12:21:32 pm
Hosta la vista (a little gardeners' joke  ;) ) and a sweep of autumn colour.
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Post by: armand on October 27, 2020, 02:40:04 pm
Kiss me

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Post by: degrub on October 27, 2020, 09:03:34 pm
Kate ;D ;)
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Post by: John R on October 27, 2020, 10:26:34 pm
Really nice, John and Armand.

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 28, 2020, 01:03:23 pm
Really nice, John and Armand.

JR
Yes.
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Post by: armand on October 29, 2020, 06:15:14 am
Thank you!
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 30, 2020, 08:17:53 am
Kejimkujik. In some areas of the park, the deciduous trees are done – stripped of their leaves. In other areas, the remaining yellows and oranges are browning. There's still a good amount of colour in the bushes and undergrowth.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 30, 2020, 05:08:12 pm
I hope this pandemic gets over soon so I can get back to Kejimkujik one more time.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 30, 2020, 07:24:35 pm
I hope this pandemic gets over soon so I can get back to Kejimkujik one more time.

+1. The province is hopeful for next summer, or next autumn at the latest. It all depends on what happens and when. Currently, Nova Scotia has just 6 active Covid cases (all from out-of-province travel), and no one hospitalized.
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Post by: armand on October 30, 2020, 08:08:48 pm
Window

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Post by: JNB_Rare on October 31, 2020, 10:33:45 am
Window

I like the composition. Scenes like this always make me smile because autumn is my favourite season. My wife and I are fortunate to have a couple of such beautiful trees around our house. One in particular is so vibrant as to be almost unbelievable. Even when it's overcast and rainy, I love opening the bedroom curtains to look out at this...
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Post by: RSL on October 31, 2020, 12:02:18 pm
It's a beautiful time of year up north.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on November 02, 2020, 06:37:32 pm
Early morning walk in town. It's really looking like November, now. The sailboats at the marina have all been pulled out and some are 'wrapped' already. The big grey hulk in the picture is an ex-Canadian navy dive support ship, the Cormorant. Decommissioned in 1997, it has had several owners, but has been abandoned at the Bridgewater NS dock for 20 years. In 2015, it partially sank – a big problem since it contains an estimated 6500 litres of oil and 8500 litres of oil-contaminated water. The project to pump it out and tow it away for dismantling has been awarded, and work is finally starting. Cost to taxpayers – $1.8 million CAD (but could go as high as $2.6 million.)
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Post by: armand on November 11, 2020, 02:55:55 pm
The sun is getting low


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Post by: armand on November 13, 2020, 07:47:20 pm
Rainy day

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Post by: JNB_Rare on November 14, 2020, 01:51:34 pm
Shubenacadie Wildlife Park. Not my thing at all, but I coordinate field trips for our local photo club, and a number of members were hoping to go here. Covid restrictions meant a one-way route through the park, and some animals (wolves and coyotes) were off limits because the trails to their enclosures were too narrow to maintain social distancing (i.e. less than 2 lobster traps wide). The trip confirmed for me what an abysmal wildlife photographer I am – even when they're caged.  :o  Still, it turned out to be a lovely, warm autumn day.
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Post by: armand on November 17, 2020, 10:26:52 am
Resurrecting a little my E-M5ii (didn't use it in more than a year).
Handheld at 1sec

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Post by: RSL on November 17, 2020, 11:56:19 am
A good shot, Armand. What difference does it make what equipment you used?
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Post by: armand on November 17, 2020, 02:44:54 pm
A good shot, Armand. What difference does it make what equipment you used?

Thank you!
Well, despite me not that impressed with Olympus IS, I don't think I could have handheld another camera that I own for 1 sec and have a sharp shot. I did use ISO 400 so I could gain some exposure time here with a full frame but still unlikely to preserve the DOF and current file quality (which is borderline). So in conclusion, the camera system helped me take the shot that I wanted, would have been much more difficult with other cameras that I own.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 17, 2020, 06:56:01 pm
It's a fine shot.
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Post by: JNB_Rare on November 29, 2020, 02:38:01 pm
Every time we drive by, I peek into this particular bay to see what the light is like. I've taken several pics in a variety of seasons and weather conditions. This one is from yesterday.
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Post by: RSL on November 29, 2020, 03:13:50 pm
Thank you!
Well, despite me not that impressed with Olympus IS, I don't think I could have handheld another camera that I own for 1 sec and have a sharp shot. I did use ISO 400 so I could gain some exposure time here with a full frame but still unlikely to preserve the DOF and current file quality (which is borderline). So in conclusion, the camera system helped me take the shot that I wanted, would have been much more difficult with other cameras that I own.

All very interesting, Armand, but it doesn't mean a damn thing. The result is the result is the result. I remember a discussion group on poetry I was part of, long ago. Somebody brought up "Piss Christ," and explained the kind of problems that impacted the "artist" and led to this result. What matters is what happens to a person who reads the poem or looks at the photograph or painting. What problems the artist had producing the result has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the result. The "piss" part of the poem's title fits the work, but you produced something lovely and worthwhile. Doesn't matter what kind of struggle you went through to produce it.
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Post by: armand on December 16, 2020, 08:13:54 pm
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 16, 2020, 10:29:48 pm
Lovely.
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Post by: francois on December 17, 2020, 06:16:52 am
Good color combination, excellent composition and background blur… I like it a lot.
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Post by: armand on December 18, 2020, 10:03:43 pm
Thank you Eric and Francois!
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Post by: armand on December 18, 2020, 10:04:26 pm
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Post by: armand on January 08, 2021, 07:33:19 pm
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Post by: BobDavid on January 13, 2021, 12:27:26 am
Lyons, CO 2019
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 13, 2021, 12:18:27 pm
Nice one, Bob.
And welcome back! It's good to see you photographing again.

-Eric
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Post by: JNB_Rare on January 14, 2021, 01:07:16 pm
Another forgotten social media post.
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Post by: armand on April 17, 2021, 11:22:30 pm
rediscovering my m43 kit

Olympus E-M5ii with 12-100 F4

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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 18, 2021, 11:10:59 am
Another forgotten social media post.
Fascinating!
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 18, 2021, 11:14:30 am
rediscovering my m43 kit

Olympus E-M5ii with 12-100 F4

Nice set, Armand. My favorites are the first and last.
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Post by: degrub on April 18, 2021, 01:03:52 pm
the last one is just stunning.
The roll off of that lens is really nice.
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Post by: John R on April 18, 2021, 09:55:29 pm
Nice set, Armand. My favorites are the first and last.
I agree.

JR
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Post by: armand on April 23, 2021, 10:32:05 pm
Thank you all!


This evening


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Post by: John R on April 23, 2021, 10:51:52 pm
Thank you all!


This evening
That first one is just fabulous! Are these from cell phone? And if so is the light on fence from software?

JR
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Post by: francois on April 24, 2021, 07:02:00 am
Lovely shots. The wider view (1st shot) is my favorite, the line is longer and seems to flow with the landscape. Both images, share the same exceptional sky, though.
Well seen.
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Post by: kers on April 24, 2021, 07:34:18 am
That first one is just fabulous! Are these from cell phone? And if so is the light on fence from software?

JR

+1 the first is magical
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Post by: armand on April 24, 2021, 09:29:32 am
Thank you John, Francois and Pieter!

John, this is a Z7 with 70-200 F4 on a FTZ adapter. ISO 64, F9. Well within the sensor capabilities.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 24, 2021, 10:47:04 am
Another vote for the first. "Magical" indeed.
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Post by: armand on April 24, 2021, 02:11:07 pm
Thank you Eric!


That first one is just fabulous! Are these from cell phone? And if so is the light on fence from software?

JR

Here is a shot with the iPhone, first as it came from iPhone (I might have touched it up a little in the phone, don't recall now) and the second processed to "taste" in Lightroom

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2368292021-5.jpg)


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2368302541-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on April 25, 2021, 08:00:35 am
Superb, again! I have no preference yet (1st iPhone vs 2nd Lightroom).
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 25, 2021, 11:08:04 am
I like the sky in the iPhone version but the fence is much better in the LR version.
Perhaps you could lighten the fence without lightening the sky so much?
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Post by: francois on April 26, 2021, 07:31:31 am
I like the sky in the iPhone version but the fence is much better in the LR version.
Perhaps you could lighten the fence without lightening the sky so much?

Yes, that's a good suggestion.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 21, 2021, 12:27:31 pm
Rock feast, still searching for a better title

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2495563957-5.jpg)
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Post by: degrub on May 21, 2021, 12:29:18 pm
"rock 'n roll" ?
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Post by: John R on May 21, 2021, 01:45:36 pm
Rock feast, still searching for a better title
I love it! To me it is symbolic of a family protecting a baby that was just born. Like the famous crosses of the station, call it "la Sagrada Família."

JR
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Post by: armand on May 21, 2021, 04:51:09 pm
I love it! To me it is symbolic of a family protecting a baby that was just born. Like the famous crosses of the station, call it "la Sagrada Família."

JR

Funny how we see different things. I saw both trying to take a bite from the apple  ;D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on May 24, 2021, 02:03:51 pm
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2531646698-5.jpg)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 24, 2021, 02:55:27 pm
Funny how we see different things. I saw both trying to take a bite from the apple  ;D
It's a wonderful image, with lots of possibilities.
How about: :"Who gets the first bite?"
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 24, 2021, 02:56:33 pm
The flower is nice, too. But it's hard to compete with the hungry rocks.
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Post by: francois on May 25, 2021, 09:25:39 am
The flower is nice, too. But it's hard to compete with the hungry rocks.

Different types of teeth… I quite like the last one with the rich green tones and the bright yellows.
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Post by: armand on May 25, 2021, 03:56:27 pm
Thank you!
Hungry rocks is a better title  ;)
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Post by: armand on May 25, 2021, 03:57:17 pm
Farm

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2538350206-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 25, 2021, 04:48:06 pm
Nice farm shot.
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Post by: francois on May 27, 2021, 09:41:56 am
Farm


An excellent reward after a long day in the fields…
Well done.
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Post by: John R on May 27, 2021, 10:55:26 pm
An excellent reward after a long day in the fields…
Well done.
You mean it's a natural shot? No way! Armand won't admit to using a giant flashlight to light the farm buildings and rooftops? Aren't those coloured gels for the skies? Say it isn't so!

Your images have so  much variety. City and country...sigh...well done!

JR
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Post by: armand on May 28, 2021, 05:15:32 pm
Thank you Eric, Francois and John!
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Post by: francois on May 29, 2021, 09:10:38 am
You mean it's a natural shot? No way! Armand won't admit to using a giant flashlight to light the farm buildings and rooftops? Aren't those coloured gels for the skies? Say it isn't so!

Your images have so  much variety. City and country...sigh...well done!

JR

Armand is a magician… and he doesn't reveal his tricks!  :D
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on June 02, 2021, 10:13:56 pm
Armand is a magician… and he doesn't reveal his tricks!  :D

No tricks here, it's a single exposure from an m43 camera (E-M1iii). I took 3 shots thinking I have to go HDR but 1 shot was good enough.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on June 02, 2021, 10:14:15 pm
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2576354407-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on June 03, 2021, 05:13:04 pm
Groundhog day

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2580289230-5.jpg)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 03, 2021, 08:21:10 pm
No, Groundhog Day was in February. This must be Tree Hog Day.
Both nice.
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Post by: John R on June 03, 2021, 10:58:00 pm
No, Groundhog Day was in February. This must be Tree Hog Day.
Both nice.
Really fine shot, particularly the perspective.

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 04, 2021, 05:30:31 pm
Recent weird ones from me.
1. Abstract with selfie,
2. Flying Saucer with Human Sample Grabber deployed, and
3. What is it?
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Post by: armand on June 05, 2021, 06:10:50 pm
Thank you Eric and John!

Now an aquatic equivalent  :)

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2589091816-5.jpg)
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Post by: Chris Kern on June 08, 2021, 09:47:30 pm
A pair of American robins did us the honor of building their nest directly outside one of the windows in our breakfast area.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51235107948_0af1cfbb01_c_d.jpg)
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 09, 2021, 09:58:37 am
What a fine hungry mouth.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: John R on June 09, 2021, 07:10:30 pm
Amazing that the bird will set up a nest in manner that is open to your window. Fine shot.

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on July 27, 2021, 10:07:17 pm
Different points of view


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2891747603-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on July 28, 2021, 07:06:11 am
Different points of view


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2891747603-5.jpg)

Vice versa in green… Very nice!
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 29, 2021, 10:22:10 am
That is beautiful and hilarious, Armand.

Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 23, 2021, 05:46:03 pm
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2995868566-5.jpg)
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Post by: francois on August 24, 2021, 02:38:10 am

I like this "lost in the woods" shot. From above, it looks even more isolated.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 24, 2021, 11:35:04 am
Really isolated. Not even a driveway or visible path to get to the cabin.

Fine shot.

Taken by a drone?
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Post by: armand on August 24, 2021, 08:31:53 pm
Thank you Francois and Eric!

Eric, I was was high up on a mountain and used a longish focal length. It was a very hazy day, leading to this less contrasty look.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 26, 2021, 11:02:20 am
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3013855134-5.jpg)


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3013874909-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on August 26, 2021, 11:25:14 am
Fine shots, both.
My preference is for the first.
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Post by: degrub on August 26, 2021, 07:52:42 pm
The "misty mountains" straight out of the Hobbit.
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Post by: francois on August 27, 2021, 09:16:26 am
I also like #1 best, especially the centered ridge. The sky/clouds and the distant mountains are stunning on both.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on August 31, 2021, 07:31:03 pm
Thank you!
That sunset meant a final descent in relative darkness, on a poorly marked trail. The sacrifices one makes for photography  ;D
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Post by: armand on August 31, 2021, 07:37:35 pm
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3014269621-5.jpg)


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3014269325-5.jpg)


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3014269337-5.jpg)


(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3014269590-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on September 01, 2021, 07:28:04 am
A very clean and pleasant set, Armand.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 01, 2021, 11:42:25 am
A very clean and pleasant set, Armand.
+1.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 01, 2021, 08:47:58 pm
Thank you Francois and Eric!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 02, 2021, 09:14:07 pm
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3063292124-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on September 03, 2021, 09:28:29 am
Another clean shot with very few elements but so evocative… and those pastel colors are perfect for the mood.
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Post by: John R on September 03, 2021, 11:26:11 am
Another clean shot with very few elements but so evocative… and those pastel colors are perfect for the mood.
Exactly.

JR
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 03, 2021, 08:00:18 pm
+1.
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Post by: armand on September 05, 2021, 08:44:46 pm
Thank you Francois, John and Eric!
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 05, 2021, 08:45:09 pm
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3079349918-5.jpg)
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Post by: John R on September 05, 2021, 09:54:02 pm
Really like this one Armand. Well seen. Wonderful juxtapositioning of building trees and sky.

JR
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Post by: armand on September 06, 2021, 08:39:33 pm
Thank you John!
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Post by: armand on September 06, 2021, 08:40:20 pm
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3079359162-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 06, 2021, 10:12:49 pm
A millipede with bubbles instead of feet?  Interesting.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: francois on September 08, 2021, 06:47:39 am
A millipede with bubbles instead of feet?  Interesting.

Not sure what it is but I like the shot… I like your interpretation, Eric.
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Post by: armand on September 08, 2021, 08:40:57 pm
Thank you both! It's a flower (which I do not know) on a cover of pine needles.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 08, 2021, 08:41:21 pm
(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3079364555-5.jpg)
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Post by: John R on September 08, 2021, 09:59:37 pm
I love the light and the juxtaposition and rhythm of the horizontal elements. The landscape and telephone posts fade beautifully, as if there is a heat haze enveloping them. Don't tell me it is an iphone again!

JR
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 09, 2021, 06:20:21 pm
Thank you John!
No, this was a Sony RX10iv, quite zoomed in at 600mm equiv.
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: armand on September 09, 2021, 06:21:14 pm
this one is from an iPhone

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3105371499-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: degrub on September 09, 2021, 07:07:58 pm
Colorado dreaming !
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Post by: francois on September 10, 2021, 07:28:55 am
this one is from an iPhone

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3105371499-5.jpg)

Great shot with that near/far composition.
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Post by: armand on September 12, 2021, 03:38:25 pm
Thank you!


Bambi

(https://armandtanase.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3079364572-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Without Prejudice 3
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 12, 2021, 04:52:23 pm
Nice portrait.

"This is my best side. Did you get the shot?"   ;)
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Post by: francois on September 14, 2021, 11:11:22 am
Lovely image… All ears for this young guy!
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 17, 2021, 06:03:23 pm
A leaf.
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 17, 2021, 06:04:55 pm
Captive tree.
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Post by: francois on September 18, 2021, 08:58:56 am
Captive tree.

I love the wrap-around roots…
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 18, 2021, 10:59:14 am
Thanks, Francois. That's what got my attention, too.