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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: drmike on June 08, 2017, 06:49:44 am

Title: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: drmike on June 08, 2017, 06:49:44 am
The Magnum $100 dollar sale - which sadly is still too rich for me even for the glorious Monroe

Magun sale (https://shop.magnumphotos.com/?rfsn=623334.d907b6&subid=nl4&utm_source=nl4)

The real interest is in teh comments that accompany each image, well for me any way.

Mike
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Rob C on June 08, 2017, 10:13:13 am
I really like the Gilles Peress one shot on a foggy morn in Belfast.

But I wouldn't buy it or any of the others. And no, the price isn't the problem; I just don't see any of them as wall ornaments. And I'm afraid that's all I see photographs suited to being if outwith a magazine or some other more glitzy publication. Quite unlike paintings, then.

;-(

Rob
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: drmike on June 08, 2017, 10:23:54 am
In this case I agree I doubt that I'd want to hang them on the wall but I'd be pleased to be able to browse them periodically. In fact I would put some on my office wall but I'd want to rotate them as I do with my own photographs and then it's the $100 that stops me :)

Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: pearlstreet on June 08, 2017, 02:24:12 pm
I hate wall decorations and prefer to hang art so there are several of these I would love to have.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Rand47 on June 08, 2017, 04:56:31 pm
The Magnum $100 dollar sale - which sadly is still too rich for me even for the glorious Monroe

Magun sale (https://shop.magnumphotos.com/?rfsn=623334.d907b6&subid=nl4&utm_source=nl4)

The real interest is in teh comments that accompany each image, well for me any way.

Mike

You just cost me a hundred bucks!  I have loved "forever" Cornell Capa's photo of the Bolshoi Ballet School dancers.  Now I'll own a small print that will hang in my studio!  Thanks!!!

Rand
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: drmike on June 08, 2017, 05:09:56 pm
You'll probably love it forever and in truth you have a piece of history :)
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Rand47 on June 08, 2017, 05:15:45 pm
You'll probably love it forever and in truth you have a piece of history :)

Absolutely.... thanks again.

Rand
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: RSL on June 09, 2017, 09:49:13 am
Anybody notice something about these pictures, which are some of the most famous in the world? Every one of them includes humans. No landscapes. No sunrises. No sunsets. No still lifes. No dogs. No cats. Interesting, no?
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: pearlstreet on June 09, 2017, 10:21:13 am
One of my favorites is the one with a dog.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Otto Phocus on June 09, 2017, 11:05:00 am
Anybody notice something about these pictures, which are some of the most famous in the world? Every one of them includes humans. No landscapes. No sunrises. No sunsets. No still lifes. No dogs. No cats. Interesting, no?

Sounds like the list is rather limited considering the scope of photography.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: RSL on June 09, 2017, 11:19:17 am
Right, Otto. But photography is for keeping track of humans. Painting is for keeping track of landscapes. And, of course, with humans you sometimes have an occasional incidental dog, but that's not the same thing as a dog picture.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Otto Phocus on June 09, 2017, 11:31:25 am
But photography is for keeping track of humans.

I was not aware of that.  Learn something every day.  What was the authority that made that decision?
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: bernie west on June 09, 2017, 11:38:07 am
Photography is for storing large amounts of electrons on hard drives never to be seen again..
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: RSL on June 09, 2017, 11:44:20 am
You got it, Bernie. But you'll notice that the pictures referred to in the initial post are still circulating. Landscapes and dogs stay buried on hard drives.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Alan Goldhammer on June 09, 2017, 11:53:02 am
They are pretty small prints to hang on a wall.  I was looking at the specs and they are Digital C prints (at least the ones I looked at) on Fuji Crystal paper.  I wonder if they are negative scans or print scans.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: RSL on June 09, 2017, 11:57:08 am
Right, Alan. 6 x 6 is pretty small. Interesting sale. Makes me wonder if Magnum is in financial trouble. With cell phones in universal use they could be.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: pearlstreet on June 09, 2017, 01:33:07 pm
Minor White:
"There's no particular class of photograph that I think is any better than any other class. I'm always and forever looking for the image that has spirit! I don't give a damn
how it got made."

I love Minor White. His landscapes are incredible.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on June 09, 2017, 01:41:37 pm
Minor White:
"There's no particular class of photograph that I think is any better than any other class. I'm always and forever looking for the image that has spirit! I don't give a damn
how it got made."

I love Minor White. His landscapes are incredible.
+1!
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Telecaster on June 09, 2017, 05:03:35 pm
One of my favorite van Goghs hangs on my bedroom wall. Which is to say, a photo I took of the painting is tacked to the wall with pushpins.  ;)

Saved myself umpteen million$ too!

(https://uploads4.wikiart.org/images/vincent-van-gogh/rowing-boats-on-the-banks-of-the-oise-1890.jpg!HalfHD.jpg)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: RSL on June 10, 2017, 12:04:30 pm
Minor White:
"There's no particular class of photograph that I think is any better than any other class. I'm always and forever looking for the image that has spirit! I don't give a damn
how it got made."

I love Minor White. His landscapes are incredible.

If you want incredible landscapes you don't go to Minor White or any photographer. You go to painters like Bierstadt. http://americanart.si.edu/images/1977/1977.107.1_2a.jpg
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: pearlstreet on June 10, 2017, 02:39:33 pm
If you want incredible landscapes you don't go to Minor White or any photographer. You go to painters like Bierstadt. http://americanart.si.edu/images/1977/1977.107.1_2a.jpg


Russ, you have a way of asserting your opinion and taste as if it's some absolute truth. That's the opposite of what art is about. I hear my bell ringing (to paraphrase Ken Kesey) when I look at Minor White's landscapes. If Bierstadt does it for you, great! I think his work is beautiful, but I find Minor White's work to be equally inspiring.

Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: RSL on June 10, 2017, 03:32:48 pm
Hi Sharon,

Looking at your webs I can understand why you're a Minor White fan. Minor did some interesting stuff, but it's static. Most of what he shot was just sitting there. When something's just sitting there you have time to paint it in a way that emphasizes what's important about it, even distorting it to make the point, which is what Bierstadt and his contemporary landscape painters did. When you shoot it with a camera it may be interesting, but it's still just sitting there. What the camera's for is the kind of thing HCB and Robert Frank did: human motion, human artifacts; telling us about ourselves, not just about the scenery around us.
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: pearlstreet on June 10, 2017, 04:22:46 pm
To you that is true but it is not to me...
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: pearlstreet on June 10, 2017, 04:30:05 pm
I think it's kind of sad that on a site called Luminous Landscape, you so easily dismiss landscape photography. I don't think any painter could top Adam's Moonrise and while Minor White didn't create the telephone pole in his Two Barns and a Shadow, he did have the eye and talent to see it and know what to include and what to exclude. But because they don't appeal to you, you dismiss them. I prefer Vivian Meyer's and Gordon Park's street photography and am blown away by much of what Sally Mann does but I wouldn't presume to dictate that preference to others. 
Title: Re: Anyone raised this yet?
Post by: Telecaster on June 10, 2017, 05:12:58 pm
Some of us just don't have the ability to distinguish between subjective experience and measurable reality. "I see it and feel it thusly, so it must be objectively true."

If you think about it, this explains a lotta thingsā€¦  :)

-Dave-