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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: Vieri Bottazzini on May 21, 2017, 02:49:11 am

Title: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Vieri Bottazzini on May 21, 2017, 02:49:11 am
I love Badwater in Death Valley: it's an extraordinary location, its landscapes are ever changing and with a sunset storm the light there becomes really magic.

(https://vieribottazzini.com/wp-content/uploads/S0071314.jpg)

Leica S (Typ 007), Leica Vario-Elmar-S 30-90mm. Thanks for viewing, best regards

Vieri
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: mbaginy on May 21, 2017, 03:02:07 pm
A fantastic image, Vieri!
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on May 22, 2017, 05:07:14 am
Nice.
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 22, 2017, 08:28:18 am
A fantastic image, Vieri!
+1.
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: francois on May 22, 2017, 09:48:46 am
I like the pattern of the salt… I agree, the place is spectacular… (almost) magic!
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Rajan Parrikar on May 22, 2017, 11:31:35 am
I find the softness (not enough depth of field) in the very near foreground and in the distance bothersome in this type of image.
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 22, 2017, 01:06:49 pm
I find the softness (not enough depth of field) in the very near foreground and in the distance bothersome in this type of image.
You should have used f/64, as Ansel and Edward would have.    ;)
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: sdwilsonsct on May 22, 2017, 01:23:59 pm
You should have used f/64, as Ansel and Edward would have.    ;)

I usually can't see why one would use a 90 mm tilt/shift lens, but it might help here.
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Vieri Bottazzini on May 23, 2017, 03:17:01 am
A fantastic image, Vieri!

Thank you very much Mike! :)

Nice.

Thanks! :)

+1.


Thank you very much Eric! :)

I like the pattern of the salt… I agree, the place is spectacular… (almost) magic!

Thank you very much Francois, yes indeed Death Valley is a very special place for me, and Badwater in particular! :)

I find the softness (not enough depth of field) in the very near foreground and in the distance bothersome in this type of image.

Hello Rajan, while I see your point, I am not particularly bothered here: to me, the softness in the lower left corner serves to drive the eye into the picture, but I appreciate that you might feel differently here. The background is actually in focus - perhaps resizing the image made it a bit softer (?).

You should have used f/64, as Ansel and Edward would have.    ;)

:D Would have love to, but the lens was limited to f/32 ;) As well, diffraction would probably have made it softer at f/32 than at f/16 anyway...

I usually can't see why one would use a 90 mm tilt/shift lens, but it might help here.

Good point Scott, even though the softness in the lower left corner doesn't bother me, on the contrary I think it serves a purpose (see above).

By the way, I also never saw the point of longer T-S lenses in the landscape (of course they have a point in product shots and the like) ;)

Best regards,

Vieri
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: 32BT on May 23, 2017, 06:15:51 am

:D Would have love to, but the lens was limited to f/32 ;) As well, diffraction would probably have made it softer at f/32 than at f/16 anyway...


I was recently thinking about a new(?) shootingtechnique: shoot a small aperture and a larger aperture image, and use the difference between the two for "selective" sharpening. Not really sure about the result, but thought it could also mitigate for example cornersharpness!?

(I'm not at all bothered about any softness in the above picture, mind you. If anything, it merely adds to the mood. The thread of an imminent storm for example is partly a figment of our imagination, something which might be represented by a more vague drawing imo.)
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: MattBurt on May 23, 2017, 12:06:40 pm
I think it's a fine image and I don't mind the oof areas although it might be even a little better if everything was in focus.
Still a compelling shot and a little different from the many others taken at the same place. Good work.
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Vieri Bottazzini on May 25, 2017, 03:14:30 am
I was recently thinking about a new(?) shootingtechnique: shoot a small aperture and a larger aperture image, and use the difference between the two for "selective" sharpening. Not really sure about the result, but thought it could also mitigate for example cornersharpness!?

(I'm not at all bothered about any softness in the above picture, mind you. If anything, it merely adds to the mood. The thread of an imminent storm for example is partly a figment of our imagination, something which might be represented by a more vague drawing imo.)

Never heard of such a technique, but would be curious to see how (and if) that works :)

I think it's a fine image and I don't mind the oof areas although it might be even a little better if everything was in focus.
Still a compelling shot and a little different from the many others taken at the same place. Good work.

Thank you Matt!

To me, the slight softness of the lower left corner is fine, as I mentioned before I think it helps guiding the viewer's eye into the picture in a diagonal movement (due to the eye going toward sharper areas and towards the coloured sunset), rather than staying too long in the left corner. More, I generally prefer not to use merging and combining files, and here using a 90mm focal length on the Leica S (medium format) f/16 was the best I could do without introducing too much diffraction: the choice was between having the lower let sharp and much of the background OOF, or this; and I preferred this as the best solution of the problem here. That said I definitely appreciate that others might feel differently about it and would have preferred to have the whole image in sharp focus :D

Best regards,

Vieri
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Telecaster on May 25, 2017, 03:54:12 pm
I think the photo is a corker.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Distant storm, Badwater
Post by: Vieri Bottazzini on May 26, 2017, 05:23:04 pm
I think the photo is a corker.

-Dave-

Thank you Dave! :) Best regards,

Vieri