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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Jeremy Roussak on April 21, 2017, 02:48:49 pm

Title: alone 2
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on April 21, 2017, 02:48:49 pm
I'm not sure about this one. I was trying to get a single plant, surviving alone, but I suspect there's not enough contrast for it to stand out enough against the rock. I got nowhere with a b&w conversion, which surprised me a bit as that's what I had in mind when I took it.

Thoughts?

Jeremy
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: RSL on April 21, 2017, 03:08:25 pm
Now it stands out. I think I'd have moved the camera a bit to the right, though so the plant isn't centered.
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 21, 2017, 05:10:00 pm
Russ's tweak is all it needs.
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on April 22, 2017, 03:59:27 am
Now it stands out. I think I'd have moved the camera a bit to the right, though so the plant isn't centered.

It does, although the rocks have turned very blue. What did you do?

It's a crop from a 3:2, so recomposing it would be easy.

Jeremy
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: RSL on April 22, 2017, 07:46:02 am
Hi Jeremy, All I did was crank down the blue luminance and push up the whites a bit in camera raw. It was about a five second fix -- not intended to be a final fix. With a more lengthy session -- say, maybe a half minute -- you could get rid of the overriding blue by fiddling with the other colors in that rock.
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 22, 2017, 08:39:07 am
The day has come that Russ is teaching us post-processing  :) Well done, Russ.

I don't mind the blue. I wouldn't mind turning the plant a bit golden, yellow or orange too. And a vignette.
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: RSL on April 22, 2017, 09:23:44 am
Thanks, Slobodan. Actually I teach some PP to a local photo club, but I wouldn't DARE try to teach it to the LuLa experts. I just use it.
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on April 22, 2017, 11:37:09 am
Tee hee. Frankly, I'll learn anything from anyone who can offer me something I don't know.

I fixed the blue issue by lowering the saturation as well as the luminance, and I re-cropped it. It already had a vignette, but I've augmented that too.

I think it looks better, yes. Thanks.

Jeremy
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 22, 2017, 12:00:28 pm
I has to remain centered. It only works in a square composition, though.

Why eliminate the blue? Unless your client is a geological society, of course. The blue/yellow contrast works so well in Russ' version, that it "jumped" at me when I saw it. I first couldn't believe my eyes, thinking that Russ (Russ!) must have cropped the image, that's how much the plant stood out. But then I realized that the old perception rule is to blame: cool colors recede, warm advance.
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 22, 2017, 12:11:41 pm
If you really hate the blue (or color) and want the plant to stand out, why not b&w?
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 22, 2017, 12:17:37 pm
I has to remain centered. It only works in a square composition, though.

Why eliminate the blue? Unless your client is a geological society, of course. The blue/yellow contrast works so well in Russ' version, that it "jumped" at me when I saw it. I first couldn't believe my eyes, thinking that Russ (Russ!) must have cropped the image, that's how much the plant stood out. But then I realized that the old perception rule is to blame: cool colors recede, warm advance.
Much as it pains me to say this, I agree completely with Slobodan.  ;)
I will sign up for Russ's post processing course the next time he offers it in Boston.
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: John R on April 22, 2017, 10:57:54 pm
My two cents. The real problem for me are the two large black areas, top- right and left. They draw your eyes and are very powerful. Slobodan dealt with them beautifully as a BW rendition. The eyes now move between the plant and the two black areas.

JR
Title: Re: alone 2
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on April 23, 2017, 03:53:15 am
That's a fine b&w conversion, Slobodan. I'd failed to get anything like as good, but I'll try again: I had b&w in mind when I took the shot.

As to my antipathy to the blue, it's because it wasn't there, at least not visibly there, and I just don't like it. So there  ;)

Jeremy