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The Art of Photography => But is it Art? => Topic started by: tom b on March 27, 2017, 01:48:38 am
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I had a splurge, two Trent Parke photos from his Seventh Wave exhibition 2002 now grace my bedroom.
The Seventh Wave (https://pro.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&ALID=2K7O3R15WKIQ)
If you had a windfall whose photos would you hang on your walls?
Cheers,
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I have a mixture of inherited paintings, a few of my own pictures and some landscape atmospherics bought in Sarlat during trips Ann and I enjoyed through France.
I don't much like ornaments. They pose the serious problem of dusting and accidental destruction as result. Again, I'm blessed with some inherited crystal as well as what I think to be a couple of Lalique pieces that cause me mental grief during my rare hoovering/dusting moments. I have a service of silver teapots, rosebowls etc. that we used to enjoy having on display, but that for a couple of decades, at the very least, have gone dull within cardboard boxes, all stored away. The reality is that a lot of this stuff is only relevant to past eras of society when there were people employed to keep all these things shining; today, many see only the associated problems of maintenance. We had friends who couldn't even give their silver away to their children, kids already very well established in their own businesses. Quality wine glasses and similar, smaller liqueur glasses etc. sit in a cupboard unused, and other places are taken up to house expensive crockery that can't even be machine-washed, not that I own a dishwasher. As I write, stuff of a bygone time. We were given a pretty coffee set as a wedding present, and used it regularly. Then, a neighbour who once owned an antiques shop almost had a fit when we, quite innocently, served her coffee from it. Who needs these pressure in life? Like friggin' Ferraris, I supposed, the things get to own and control you.
Trying, as I am, both to sell my place and realise a good price for it, the remains of the past represent just one more headache that will have to be faced should the property sell as desired. There is far more to minimalism than not being able to spend money or perhaps simply being unwilling so to do. One need only have to face a house-clearing at the death of a relative to realise rapidly the difference between real and imaginary values.
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I have some by Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, Paul Caponigro, and Fran Forman. Plus a bunch of my own.
As you can see, I'm still living in the mid-twentieth century.
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I have some by Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, Paul Caponigro, and Fran Forman. Plus a bunch of my own.
As you can see, I'm still living in the mid-twentieth century.
It was often a good place to be.
Rob
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Photos? This one:
http://www.ralphgibson.com/uploads/8/7/5/7/8757968/4517439_orig.jpg
& some Josef Sudek & Saul Leiters
Other stuff?
Some of this:
http://www.normanackroyd.com/prints/
and this:
http://www.giesicke.com/en/artists/schreiter-johannes-155
But since I'm a feckless b*****d I can't have any of them ( & I'm sure no one in their right mind would give me a load of money ).
Enjoy your Trent Parke's
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Dogs playing poker
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If you had a windfall whose photos would you hang on your walls?
Strand. Weston. Arbus. Cartier-Bresson. Adams. I would really need a good windfall!
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I have some by Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, Paul Caponigro, and Fran Forman. Plus a bunch of my own.
As you can see, I'm still living in the mid-twentieth century.
I'm like Eric, but would add an Eliot Porter dye transfer.
I would use some of the windfall, for a trip, then add a few more of my own. ;)
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I'd rather have paintings, drawings and shelves full of collected artefacts on my walls.
Yep, my new apartment is full of those too.
Cheers,
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Lucien Clergue's, without even thinking about it. Particularly the the Née de la vague series.
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Lucien Clergue's, without even thinking about it. Particularly the the Née de la vague series.
A Pentax 67 fan, then!
;-)
Rob
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Roll over Beethoven and let Burke Uzzle grace my walls.
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Roll over Beethoven and let Burke Uzzle grace my walls.
I don't think Beethoven was much of a photographer anyway.
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I'd like a Jerry Uelsman photograph on my wall.
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I'd like a Jerry Uelsman photograph on my wall.
I would too.
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Y'know, I'd rather have a book of (decent sized) photos by Newton or Sieff or Jonvelle or Arbus or Bailey or Doineau or HCB or Boubat or Burri or Leiter or Moon or Lindbergh... than a single print by anyone. I'm just not into the art-as-object fetish. I guess if I had the chance to have an original print by any of those people for 50€, yeah, maybe. Photography is a medium of mass reproduction, and while it would be cool to see just how X printed Y, I'm not that much into the brush-strokes.
I do have an original print by one of my friends, who deserves to be famous. Maybe I'll get her to sign it, just in case she accidentally bumps into celebrity one day :-)
More likely is that I'll cough the 60€ for Lindbergh's book.
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If you bought a print, I don't think anyone would accuse you of being a art-as-object fetisher. The prints I have with a notable exception are done by friends/other photographers and I get much pleasure visiting them as I do my 500+ book collection.
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Definitely subscribe to the book alternative.
Until I know whether I get this pad sold or not, I have drawn a line under further books or bulk of any sort. Truth to tell, I have developed a strategy mindset where I feel inclined simply to walk away from here the day it sells, leave the suitcases in the local dump and just go, buying fresh clothes en route and arriving at whatever destination as a virgin; a born-again one, it must be said.
Brexit gets triggered today; the sacred lemmings at the White Cliffs have already started their engines, bottle of English wine in one hand, Union Jacks bristling from the aerials, and are lined up to drop the clutch as soon as the radio tells them the letter has been delivered. Today the day many a nascent conscience will drive many a politician into future madness, double paradox notwithstanding.
Hey bloody ho.
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Hey Rob,
Maybe I'll call my next book "The Last Picture Book" so you'll be desparate to buy it. ;D
Eric
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Brexit (http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/14C91/production/_95373158_9f0fb472-e69d-4595-bd4f-1967a262311e.jpg)
And you can bet it's not loaded with gargle fluid! Actually, it reminds me of a self-blow job. For giraffes ostriches.
I got to the clinic this morning in an effort to renew my medical card; the last time the application had to be sent away, and one would wait a month or so for a new card to arrive, To my surprise, on this occasion it was all done at the desk! I now hold a current card, with a photo, that's valid until 2021! Of course, two questions arise: what happens in '19, and if I survive both '19 and the card, will the card have already been cancelled before its term runs out? Fun.
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I like so many images it's hard to just drop names but of course I love the old masters' and big names work (Adams, Bresson, Maier, Till, Klein, and many more) and would be thrilled to own some.
Currently I think I only own a single photo by from anyone even semi-famous. It's a Jimmy Chin B&W image from Everest and I do love it and his vision and ability to get the shot in very harsh conditions. I'd love more of his work or his buddy Renan Ozturk. Those are the guys I try to emulate with my adventure photography.
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arriving at whatever destination as a virgin; a born-again one, it must be said.
You may be interested to know that so far as the medical profession in France is concerned, the hymen was only discovered in the 19th century. Midwives had been talking about it for centuries of course, but how could serious Medical Men trust them?
Presumably virginity itself was recognised as a pre-existing condition in earlier times, viz La Pucelle d'Orléans (Joan of Arc) and the Mary character.
So you can possibly skip the reconstructive surgery.
Personally I'd take my clothes: buying new ones is such a pain. I was looking over the shoulder of a colleague reading one of my emails, which also showed my official ID photo: I realised I was wearing the same jumper I had for that photo when I arrived 9 years ago.
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One of my hobbies has been to visit bookshops, galleries and museums and look at photography. Then grab a meal (the two seem to go together) and later do a little street photography. I've been doing that on and off over forty years.
I've just sold my house and have bought an off the plan apartment. It is full of brand new furniture, appliances etc. All easy to maintain in my retirement.
The walls are covered with my paintings and photographs. Plus textiles from my trips overseas. I have one painting by my friend Tim, he has a painting in James Packer's Sydney apartment (think billionaire ex fiancé of Mariah Carey).
So forty years looking at photographers' work I now had a bit of spare cash. Trent Parke was my natural choice.
The Black Rose (http://www.abc.net.au/arts/stories/s4217872.htm)
Cheers,
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No question -- Manuel Alvarez Bravo.
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You may be interested to know that so far as the medical profession in France is concerned, the hymen was only discovered in the 19th century. Midwives had been talking about it for centuries of course, but how could serious Medical Men trust them?
Presumably virginity itself was recognised as a pre-existing condition in earlier times, viz La Pucelle d'Orléans (Joan of Arc) and the Mary character.
So you can possibly skip the reconstructive surgery.
Personally I'd take my clothes: buying new ones is such a pain. I was looking over the shoulder of a colleague reading one of my emails, which also showed my official ID photo: I realised I was wearing the same jumper I had for that photo when I arrived 9 years ago.
That's interesting; I believe that people have been looking for it for quite a long, long time. However, by the time midwives get involved, I presume it's a little bit too late to find very much evidence of it, one way or the other. I'm led to believe it's a little bit like the quest for the Holy Grail: now you see it, now you don't - quite confusing, I imagine, and possibly a concept best left to its own devices.
I have a sneaking suspicion that it has deep Haitian/African origins, and is celebrated in a ritual that has something to do with rolling around in a river of mud and making very round eyes at nothing in particular. I'm told that with obsessive thinking about it, the smoking of interesting varieties of weed, it's possible to conjour up the image of a lady photographer from Magnum, thus fulfilling one of the deeper, key emotional goals of the mud ritual.
We live in amazing times.
Rob
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This is not the Coffee Corner, it shouldn't be so hard to keep a topic on your favourite photographers you'd like to hang on your walls on topic.
I'd love to have a Peter Dombrovskis print (https://shop.wildislandtas.com.au/collections/peter-dombrovskis) on my walls. Unfortunately keeping control of a deceased estate doesn't mean that quality control will rule.
A Jerry Uelsmann print (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=jerry+uelsmann&safe=active&rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU695AU695&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj938zt6_7SAhUBvbwKHcgBAwkQ_AUIBigB&biw=1366&bih=585) is pricey but still affordable compared to an original painting by my favourite Australian painter Fred Williams (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Fred+Williams&safe=active&rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU695AU695&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE0bvQ7f7SAhUGOrwKHX_6ALcQ_AUIBigB&biw=1366&bih=585&dpr=1) which would probably cost a hundred times what a decent print would cost.
Cheers,
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This is not the Coffee Corner, it shouldn't be so hard to keep a topic on your favourite photographers you'd like to hang on your walls on topic.
I'd love to have a Peter Dombrovskis print (https://shop.wildislandtas.com.au/collections/peter-dombrovskis) on my walls. Unfortunately keeping control of a deceased estate doesn't mean that quality control will rule.
A Jerry Uelsmann print (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=jerry+uelsmann&safe=active&rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU695AU695&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj938zt6_7SAhUBvbwKHcgBAwkQ_AUIBigB&biw=1366&bih=585) is pricey but still affordable compared to an original painting by my favourite Australian painter Fred Williams (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Fred+Williams&safe=active&rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU695AU695&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE0bvQ7f7SAhUGOrwKHX_6ALcQ_AUIBigB&biw=1366&bih=585&dpr=1) which would probably cost a hundred times what a decent print would cost.
Cheers,
This is very true, Tom, but there's a big elephant running amok here in this tiny room: there are very few photographers who fit the bill.
So, sorry for the derailing, but apart from a couple of Sarah Moon photographs, there's nobody to add. As I wrote, books are better. Of course, if you are a volume junkie, then I could always write you a comprehensive list of all the photographers whose work I like but it wouldn't get anyone anywhere fast.
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Weston's "Pepper #30"
Adams' "Storm Clearing over Half Dome"
Paul Strand's "Taos Church"
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To answer the question: my own. And that's exactly what I have throughout the house: About 15 17 x 22s framed 20 x 27, and a plethora of other sizes here and there.
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A slight digression: I have some signed Grahame Sydney (http://www.grahamesydney.co.nz/) prints of his paintings. He was a friend of my dad's and he gave me a few for my first house. To get back on topic, he is doing photography now so I may need to pick up something new.
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My own...that is why I take photos. Why should I put other's work on my walls when I have plenty of my own?
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My own...that is why I take photos. Why should I put other's work on my walls when I have plenty of my own?
You haven't followed the post.
"If you had a windfall whose photos would you hang on your walls?" Obviously you are not going to pay for your own photographs!
My allegiances are split between printers and "photographers".
I'd be very happy to have a Grant Mudford or Murray Fredericks Australian print on my walls. Trent Parke is my favourite Australian photographer, Grant and Murray make great prints which I would be very happy to have on my walls.
Cheers,
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If I really had to display photos on my walls - and I'd really rather not - I'd opt for those of others rather than my own.
I agree. I think it is a bit unseemly to hang your own photographs on your own walls. Appears like you would be looking for complements from guests.
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I have a mix of mine and other works I admire. Mine are mostly there either because of sentimental value or just storage. I often rotate what is hanging at home based on what didn't sell at the gallery and just needs to be rotated and stored somewhere. Why not on my wall?
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If I really had to display photos on my walls - and I'd really rather not - I'd opt for those of others rather than my own.
So you don't really believe what you're shooting is worthwhile? Maybe you ought to try some other hobby. Model airplanes maybe?
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One reason I put my own photos on my walls is so that I can find out how well they "wear" with long term viewing. Do the images themselves have staying power, at least to me?
Sometimes a print only lasts a week until I find it too boring to keep on the wall.
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I spent my entire working life as a painter, illustrator and photographer. Now retired - in the sense that I'm no longer dependent on image making as an income source - I find I'm enjoying making images more than ever.
But you don't enjoy looking at the images you enjoy making since they're no longer an income source?
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Well, "You to your fancy and me to my Nancy," as the old lady said when she kissed her cow.
When I make a shot it's because I've seen something interesting. When my pictures are hanging on the wall I can walk by and experience that interest again.
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Hey, I've named some of my favourite Aussie photographers but I'd also love an Edward Weston, a Paul Strand or maybe a Dorothea Lange on my walls.
Maybe some fairy will make wealthy enough to do that!
Regards,
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Why all the concern over what I choose or don't choose to display on my own walls?
Obviously because I think it's interesting that somebody who goes out and photographs wouldn't want to see his own work on his walls.
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Happily they can be seen on the walls of many clients.
I too would much rather see my photographs on someone else's wall. I know how good/bad my photographs are. I don't need to look at them to remember that. ;D
But then there are people who like to hang up award certificates on their walls. In the military we called this an "I love me wall". My certificates are in some box.. somewhere. I think in the attic. I remember what I did, don't need to see a certificate.
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Lol... an ex was very ironically proud of her "photocopier proficiency" certificate she obtained while briefly trapped in a large bureaucracy :D
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Hey, Ralph Gibson, Robert Mapplethorpe or Elliott Erwitt, yes there are some photographer's photos that I'd love to have on my walls. This thread has gone slightly sideways but honestly who's photographs would you love to have on your walls?
Regards,
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Happily they can be seen on the walls of many clients.
A fair number of my own can be seen on other people's walls too, but so what? I shoot pictures that are interesting to ME -- not pictures I think might be interesting to others. If others find them interesting, that's neat, but again, so what? It's the difference between "professional" work, meaning work made for profit, and "amateur" work, meaning work made for the love of it.
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Actually, my reason for not having many of m prints on the walls is the same as not having other people's : too many that I like. So I have albums of mine, and books for others.
Paintings, or prints of paintings, get onto the walls however. Including one by me. That's just how it is.
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My favorite pieces at home were done by my art professors. I have three pieces (wood engraving print, oil painting, watercolor), one from each of my three favorite teachers. Two of those guys have passed away so they have become even more special to me.
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My favorite pieces at home were done by my art professors. I have three pieces (wood engraving print, oil painting, watercolor), one from each of my three favorite teachers. Two of those guys have passed away so they have become even more special to me.
Some of those wood engravings I have seen are amazing! Somethings I think that is an underappreciated art form.
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Some of those wood engravings I have seen are amazing! Somethings I think that is an underappreciated art form.
My old professor (Harry Heil, an analog man, hard to find on the Internet!) is truly a master of the medium. He does these giant (like 3'x5') landscapes that are just fantastic and full of texture and detail. He gets high end commissions from big clients like the state of Utah, does a limited run of prints, and then puts a huge gouge through his block to ensure that limited run is all there will ever be. It would break my heart to watch him do it back when I was his student. It made me think of destroying a masterpiece sand painting or burning your negatives after printing but that helped make his work highly sought after and very valuable.
I had him for print making, photography, and watercolor, but his true artistic love is print making.
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My old professor (Harry Heil, an analog man, hard to find on the Internet!) is truly a master of the medium. He does these giant (like 3'x5') landscapes that are just fantastic and full of texture and detail. He gets high end commissions from big clients like the state of Utah, does a limited run of prints, and then puts a huge gouge through his block to ensure that limited run is all there will ever be. It would break my heart to watch him do it back when I was his student. It made me think of destroying a masterpiece sand painting or burning your negatives after printing but that helped make his work highly sought after and very valuable.
I had him for print making, photography, and watercolor, but his true artistic love is print making.
I am envious of your experience with him. Destroying the block must have been a hard decision. Even if I had anywhere near that skill, I don't know if I would destroy the block. I might lock it up and never use it again, but to destroy it after all that work. Yikes.
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I am envious of your experience with him. Destroying the block must have been a hard decision. Even if I had anywhere near that skill, I don't know if I would destroy the block. I might lock it up and never use it again, but to destroy it after all that work. Yikes.
I know! :'(
I saved mine but I also didn't sell many prints or make any money at it. :)
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I would get some Burtynsky (http://www.edwardburtynsky.com/site_contents/Photographs/Water.html), maybe from his Water projct.
I also like Gursky (http://www.andreasgursky.com/en/works/2007/bahrain-2) particularly Bahrain.
Matt Black (http://www.mattblack.com/the-people-of-clouds/)
Steven Shore from Uncommon Places (http://stephenshore.net/photographs/six/index.php?page=1&menu=photographs)
Aaron Siskind (https://www.icp.org/browse/archive/constituents/aaron-siskind?all/all/all/all/0)
Richard Mosse (http://www.richardmosse.com/projects/the-enclave), I really like the Enclave, photographing a conflict situation in Eastern Congo on weird and old military spec infrared film.
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I wouldn't mind one or three of Rajan's Iceland photos
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I wouldn't mind one or three of Rajan's Iceland photos
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I'm not sure if this post is still running but wanted to add my two cents worth.
Some Michael Kenna would be great, definitely some Edward Burtynsky.
But above all else some Bruce Percy (http://www.brucepercy.co.uk), check out his work beautiful use of tone and minimalism.
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Eugene Smith
Selgado
Gursky. But I would need to get bigger walls.
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Work by two Mexican, and one Peruvian artists/photographers:
Graciela Iturbide - Mexico
http://www.gracielaiturbide.org/en
Pedro Meyer - Mexico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be1dfn8Chl8
Martín Chambi - Perú
https://www.amber-online.com/collection/chambi-collection/
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My walls feature a few paintings by my brilliant & talented pal K, one of Akko's old city by my Israeli friend Lev (featuring a tiny rendition of me) and the pretty darn good van Gogh copy mentioned in another thread here awhile back. I've had the odd photo or two on display in past years, but these days I'm more into books. I look at my own photos on my iPad or in 4K on my TV.
-Dave-
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If you had a windfall whose photos would you hang on your walls?
Cheers,
Eugene Smith.
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+1 Gene Smith
I was recently at a small venue Graham Nash concert and picked up a B&W print of his of Joni Mitchell.
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I would like to have a huge Lachapelle on the wall. But more than a photo I would like to replace the reproduction Pollock on my wall by a genuine one.