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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: chriscor on July 31, 2006, 04:56:30 pm

Title: Moab Entrada Surface difference
Post by: chriscor on July 31, 2006, 04:56:30 pm

Anybody here using Moab Entrada paper notice a difference in the texture of the surface between the 300 and 190 weight paper?
I just switched from printing on UltraSmooth to Moab because I needed a paper with a whiter base.  I proofed my images on the 190 weight Moab paper and I'm printing the finals on the 300 weight paper.  There's a noticeable difference in the surface smoothness of the two papers.  Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks
Chris

Title: Moab Entrada Surface difference
Post by: chriscor on August 01, 2006, 06:56:19 pm

The answer is yes.  I just spoke with someone at Moab and they confirmed that there is a surface difference between the papers.  Apparently  thicker papers have a rougher texture.   On the images I'm printing it takes on the appearance of increased film grain.

Title: Moab Entrada Surface difference
Post by: JeffKohn on August 02, 2006, 01:21:57 am

Your post prompted me to perform a similar comparision with Hahnemuhle Photo Rag, I which I just recently bought 13x19 in 308gsm and 8.5x11 in the lighter weight. Same thing, the thicker paper has a bit more texture. I don't find it objectionable, though, in fact I prefer the texture of the heavier paper.

Title: Moab Entrada Surface difference
Post by: esantos on August 02, 2006, 12:12:22 pm

Not to steer off topic but has anyone experienced surface flaking with Entrada? I tried a few sample sheets about two years ago and I decided not to buy this paper because it would flake quite a bit. I have never had this problem with Ultrasmooth and have been using it since. Has this been corrected by Moab?

Title: Moab Entrada Surface difference
Post by: StephenS on August 02, 2006, 12:51:31 pm

yes, a fair degree of surface flaking if you don't brush the surface prior to printing. I haven't checked some older prints yet to see if the surface has flaked any more  but I will at my first opportunity.

Title: Moab Entrada Surface difference
Post by: abiggs on August 02, 2006, 01:29:36 pm

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yes, a fair degree of surface flaking if you don't brush the surface prior to printing. I haven't checked some older prints yet to see if the surface has flaked any more  but I will at my first opportunity.
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