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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Other Raw Converters => Topic started by: peterwgallagher on February 14, 2017, 05:32:50 pm

Title: RawTherapee 5.0: only sRGB on Mac OS
Post by: peterwgallagher on February 14, 2017, 05:32:50 pm
Always interested in trying out something new -- especially from independent developers & enthusiasts. But... (from RawPedia on the Color Preferences):

"On Mac OS X all displayed colors will be in sRGB space, and then, if necessary, converted by the native OS X color pipeline to match the screen calibration, if any. This means that you cannot choose a monitor color profile on OS X. Colors will be displayed correctly, even over multiple screens, but if you have a wide-gamut screen RawTherapee's displayed colors will still be limited to sRGB. This will however not affect output, i.e. you can still produce images with colors outside the sRGB space."

What a pity. At that point, all the elaborate de-mosaicing, exposure, tone and color management tools become (mostly) useless.
Title: Re: RawTherapee 5.0: only sRGB on Mac OS
Post by: speedyk on February 14, 2017, 08:21:56 pm
The downside of open source software. People work on what they want to, some stuff is a PITA so it gets neglected.
Title: Re: RawTherapee 5.0: only sRGB on Mac OS
Post by: habibm on February 18, 2017, 02:44:07 am
Always interested in trying out something new -- especially from independent developers & enthusiasts. But... (from RawPedia on the Color Preferences):

"On Mac OS X all displayed colors will be in sRGB space, and then, if necessary, converted by the native OS X color pipeline to match the screen calibration, if any. This means that you cannot choose a monitor color profile on OS X. Colors will be displayed correctly, even over multiple screens, but if you have a wide-gamut screen RawTherapee's displayed colors will still be limited to sRGB. This will however not affect output, i.e. you can still produce images with colors outside the sRGB space."

What a pity. At that point, all the elaborate de-mosaicing, exposure, tone and color management tools become (mostly) useless.

What a pity ! I was enthusiatic about all the features of this raw converter (which I tried for the first time) until I try to change the display ICC profile  :-\
Title: Re: RawTherapee 5.0: only sRGB on Mac OS
Post by: torger on June 06, 2017, 03:07:14 pm
If I remember correctly this is a GTK problem (the cross-platform GUI toolkit) rather than RawTherapee. There simply is no way to render anything other than sRGB on Mac using GTK :-\. On Windows and Linux it works as it should. QT (another cross-platform GUI toolkit) doesn't have this problem.

Windows and Linux has been the prioritized platforms for RT, in fact I don't think any developer ever had a Mac. For a while I did the Mac builds, still making all development on Linux. The sRGB problem with GTK was discovered in a late stage, and you can't really rip out the whole GUI toolkit just like that... set it's pretty much a dead end, unless the GTK project fixes it. If you don't actually have a wide gamut screen, or rather don't use wide gamut output in your images it's not a problem though, and that's actually a quite common use case.