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Equipment & Techniques => For Sale => Topic started by: yvesroire on January 04, 2017, 05:41:04 am
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has anyone been duped as i have , buying a lens and not receiving it ??
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has anyone been duped as i have , buying a lens and not receiving it ??
Who did you buy from? What was his/her posting history?
I have only bought once from a reputable poster and the experience was great.
My feeling is that dealings btwn established forum members at LL are very reliable.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Have you contacted the seller to find out if there are any problems?
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I have purchased few times without problems even quite expensive lenses.
If you have paid via paypal you can open dispute and they will refund you back the money paid.
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I've never had any problems buying equipment via the internet, never LL but various other sites.
My rule has always been to communicate a few times with the seller before the deal and see if I get a "good feeling" based on his responses. In cases where the seller is hesitant to provide details or communicates haphazardly I usually drop the deal. No guarantee of course but so far this has served me well.
Have you taken any steps to contact the seller and try to work out if it's a genuine seller and something went wrong or that you have been scammed?
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I think forums should have some connection between usernames and real names. I have no qualms with people knowing my name. I especially like seeing people have their websites connected to their username. I buy and sell a ton across numerous forums.
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I usually verify real identity of the person before transacting, whether I'm buying or selling. It's also not a good idea of cutting the corners to avoid 3% PayPal Fee, unless you know the person.
I never had a problem so far, but you never know when your luck is going to betray.
Subrata
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Without more information about the alleged transaction, it is hard to speculate.
Note that this was Yvesroire's only post in the forum so far, and he/she has not responded after five potentially helpful replies to his one, post.
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Without more information about the alleged transaction, it is hard to speculate.
Note that this was Yvesroire's only post in the forum so far, and he/she has not responded after five potentially helpful replies to his one, post.
Good points, Eric.
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Have never had problems on LuLa or GetDPI. I go through and verify buyers though, and if they are paying with a personal check I have them understand I either need to cash it or have it completely clear.
About the worst thing selling / buying on here was figuring out how to get a Tech cam successfully shipped to Bernard in Japan. That took a few extra days!
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has anyone been duped as i have , buying a lens and not receiving it ??
I purchased a lens via this website within the last week and received it yesterday. I won't mention the seller because I don't know the protocol here but he was pleasant to deal with and I'm pleased with the transaction. Getting burned is always possible; it takes effort to be a buyer of expensive gear via a forum.
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thank you everyone
sounds like I'm the unlucky one and received an empty box for a phase one lenses
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thank you everyone
sounds like I'm the unlucky one and received an empty box for a phase one lenses
Who was the seller?
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If you have paid via paypal you can open dispute and they will refund you back the money paid.
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Who is the seller ? If true no reason to protect his name.
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I would contact the LL main people. If someone is using the site to steal, they should have an I.P address and trace the person or city they come from. It almost sounds like you set your self to get ripped off. Always use paypal and understand who you are buying from. Not posting a name or the for sale ad is also very strange on your behalf.
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So far I have not had any problems of being ripped off. However, I have come across people who tried to scam me. I was taken off guard because it was a reputable username, but it appears their username was hacked.
Luckily in my case it was comically easy to figure out they were a scammer. I find that most scammers are extremely un-knowledgeable about what ever it is they are trying to "Sell". I usually ask some "trick" questions like "Is the image stabilization working on the lens" when talking about a mamiya RZ67 lens, or "How good is the tire pressure and power steering on the camera?". Somehow this stuff goes right over these scammers heads.
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THANK YOU EVERYONE
I DID USE PAYPAL , AND THE SELLER IS VICTOR SGUASSERO FROM THE ADVERTISED GOOGLIGHTING SINCE 2015.
IN ANY CASE PAYPAL HAS ITS WAYS AND WHATEVER IT ADVERTISE AS FAR AS SUPPORT DOESN'T COME TRUE ,LONG STORY BIUT WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE THEY I GAVE THEM , THEY STILL FOUNFD A WAY TO DISMISS THE CASE DUE TO NOT HAVING A LETTER HEAD ON THE INFO AND POLICE DECLARATION , ANYWAY ANY EXCUSE IS GOOD TO DISMISS THE COMPLAINT .
EBAY JUST SENDS YOU TO PAYPAL AND THE SELLER DOES NOT RESPOND
WAITING TOHEAR FROM THE CREDIT CARD PEOPLE
BUT FORM THE START THER WAS NO WAY OF KNOWING THE SCAM
THE SELLER SOUNDED GENUINE AND WE COMMUNICATED CLEARLY AND IT WAS DONE WITH PAYPAL
THE POST OFFICE IN AUSTRALIA IS WAITING FOR THE SELLER TO RESPOND TO THEM AND NOTHING WILL HAPPEN UNTILL HE RESPONDS
VERY CONVENIENT FOR THEM
SO TO ALL THANK YOU AGAIN
KIND REGRADS
YVES ROIRE
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Sad story.
First time I hear about this on LL.
Personally, I had (multiple) great experiences in selling / buying gear.
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I never had any issues and i sold expensive items like IQ160 back etc. At first i didn't feel comfortable with such little security but
the experience over time showed good quality members on LULA. I hope you can sort out your sale. Good luck
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I've actually had a moderator on APUG intercept messages... I was looking for a Mamiya C330 and this dude messaged and we went back and forth and then all of a sudden a day later I had a message from the same person "Please do not commence, this a scam. APUG moderator"
Amazing they interrupted, scary your messages aren't all that private.
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I only had one issue on eBay buying a Hasselblad H5D-40. The seller had 98% positive feedback on sales over 400 on records. The guy was in Italy. I won the auction for $5000 USD. Communication was perfect. I paid via PayPal. After some interesting hiccups, i started to feel that something is wrong. I went to the post office as the tracking number indicated it was delivered to me. After few phone calls i find my parcel about 50 km's from my address, different street name, city etc from what eBay gave to the seller. When i figured its another post office, i drove there quick and found an envelope sent from Italy to my name but different address. Inside a blank paper. Nice one! Reported to PayPal and i got my money back within 5-6 days. I hope you can get your money back or get the goods delivered.
THANK YOU EVERYONE
I DID USE PAYPAL , AND THE SELLER IS VICTOR SGUASSERO FROM THE ADVERTISED GOOGLIGHTING SINCE 2015.
IN ANY CASE PAYPAL HAS ITS WAYS AND WHATEVER IT ADVERTISE AS FAR AS SUPPORT DOESN'T COME TRUE ,LONG STORY BIUT WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE THEY I GAVE THEM , THEY STILL FOUNFD A WAY TO DISMISS THE CASE DUE TO NOT HAVING A LETTER HEAD ON THE INFO AND POLICE DECLARATION , ANYWAY ANY EXCUSE IS GOOD TO DISMISS THE COMPLAINT .
EBAY JUST SENDS YOU TO PAYPAL AND THE SELLER DOES NOT RESPOND
WAITING TOHEAR FROM THE CREDIT CARD PEOPLE
BUT FORM THE START THER WAS NO WAY OF KNOWING THE SCAM
THE SELLER SOUNDED GENUINE AND WE COMMUNICATED CLEARLY AND IT WAS DONE WITH PAYPAL
THE POST OFFICE IN AUSTRALIA IS WAITING FOR THE SELLER TO RESPOND TO THEM AND NOTHING WILL HAPPEN UNTILL HE RESPONDS
VERY CONVENIENT FOR THEM
SO TO ALL THANK YOU AGAIN
KIND REGRADS
YVES ROIRE
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Hi Guys
This is the first time I've seen this post and I'm the sender.
I've bought and sold items on LuLa before and have never had a problem. But in this particular case the lens went missing during shipping. I have fully refunded Yves even though PayPal agreed in my favor during the dispute Yves filed with them. I have lost out on the lens as well as the shipping costs / PayPal fees etc. I've been scammed once and know the feeling.
Yves will back me up on this, I'm not a scam artist and I wanted to hold the post office accountable for the missing lens but that proving more difficult than you would think. I refunded Yves and am continuing the battle with the post office alone even though I don't think I'll ever get any money out of them.
Lesson for everyone who used LuLa - ship with insurance.
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Selling: Ship with insurance, photograph the process of packaging and handing it over to the post office (I use FedEx--it is competitive with the postal service and has proven to be more buttoned up). FedEx is great about verifying an address to see if it is legit. Take a photo of the FedEx receipt and email or text it to the buyer--it'll have a description and a tracking code. Putting in an insurance claim with the USPS is a nightmare.
Buying: Check multi sources on a particular seller. eBay, LL, GetDPI, and Fred Miranda. Ask if there is an original receipt, where the was bought, and get a picture of the item with its serial code. It is possible to track down information on big ticket items such as PhaseOne and Hasselblad equipment. Those items are sold through dealers.
I've had great experiences buying and selling on LL and Fred Miranda. I stopped selling on eBay due to the 10% surcharge.