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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: sarrasani on December 13, 2016, 03:21:00 pm

Title: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: sarrasani on December 13, 2016, 03:21:00 pm
Which is your favourite (or less bad) ?
Thank you much for attention and commenting,
Sandro.
Here the 4k versions:

4k  - 1    distagon 18 with a7r (https://photos.smugmug.com/Sangonetto-2-12-2016/i-qkrnpjh/0/O/_DSC7886_DxO.jpg)

4k-2  (https://photos.smugmug.com/Sangonetto-2-12-2016/i-ST22TV6/0/O/_DSC7888_DxO.jpg)

4k-3 (https://photos.smugmug.com/Sangonetto-2-12-2016/i-bzVzhcZ/0/O/_DSC7889_DxO.jpg)


Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: sdwilsonsct on December 14, 2016, 02:13:14 am
Hi Sandro,
An intriguing and challenging subject.
I like #3 best for the eye release in the distance. OTOH that distant mountain is very bright. The angled rocks are a strong subject. A tighter composition or crop?
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: francois on December 14, 2016, 09:40:44 am
I'm with Scott here. I find that the first two shots are neither abstract enough nor interesting (*)  (either as landscape or mineral/rock formation). I might need more time with them to change my mind but the third photo is the one that I liked immediately.

* I'd like to find a better word instead of interesting because it implies something negative or bad and this is not the case at all.
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: Dale Villeponteaux on December 14, 2016, 10:45:30 am
I like number 3 as well, but I would crop the bright rocks in the foreground. They distract
from the rocks above them and compete with the sky. On the other hand, even my wife
doesn't value my opinion.

Regards,
Dale
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: brandtb on December 14, 2016, 04:30:31 pm
I don't think any of the subjects are that interesting...maybe framing could help some  but doubtful
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: luxborealis on December 14, 2016, 08:45:10 pm
I don't think any of the subjects are that interesting...maybe framing could help some  but doubtful

+1 (but I'll add a Canadian "sorry"!)

It's difficult to tell, as an objective viewer, what caught your eye other than the stark rock. I guess we've been trained to be "entertained" by landscape photos. These don't entertain; I find them bland.

But...if that's what you're after – showing the blandness and uniterestingness of this landscape – you've succeeded.

They are "counter-cultural" landscapes, almost like Ed Burtinsky, but without the emotional/political agenda. I think this might just be a new genre – and I'm not saying this to be funny or condescending. We are so overwhelmed with the "trophy" landscapes that depict places at the "perfect" time. Maybe it's time for some anti-landscapes!
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: sarrasani on December 16, 2016, 06:14:53 pm
Hi Sandro,
An intriguing and challenging subject.
I like #3 best for the eye release in the distance. OTOH that distant mountain is very bright. The angled rocks are a strong subject. A tighter composition or crop?

thank you much for attention and commenting.
No crop, and slight PP (I like to use DXO and no local editing there....).
All the best,
Sandro
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: sarrasani on December 16, 2016, 06:17:32 pm
I'm with Scott here. I find that the first two shots are neither abstract enough nor interesting (*)  (either as landscape or mineral/rock formation). I might need more time with them to change my mind but the third photo is the one that I liked immediately.

* I'd like to find a better word instead of interesting because it implies something negative or bad and this is not the case at all.

Too much kind Francois.  And thank you for your interesting (oops :)) evaluation.  Ok: or natural or strong abstract....I tend to agree...
Thank you,
Sandro
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: sarrasani on December 16, 2016, 06:18:39 pm
I like number 3 as well, but I would crop the bright rocks in the foreground. They distract
from the rocks above them and compete with the sky. On the other hand, even my wife
doesn't value my opinion.

Regards,
Dale

Very useful and interesting considerations. thank you and all the best,
sandro
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: sarrasani on December 16, 2016, 06:20:10 pm
I don't think any of the subjects are that interesting...maybe framing could help some  but doubtful

thank you much for commenting and all the best,
sandro
Title: Re: never direct sun-light on this river....
Post by: sarrasani on December 16, 2016, 06:27:50 pm
+1 (but I'll add a Canadian "sorry"!)

It's difficult to tell, as an objective viewer, what caught your eye other than the stark rock. I guess we've been trained to be "entertained" by landscape photos. These don't entertain; I find them bland.

But...if that's what you're after – showing the blandness and uniterestingness of this landscape – you've succeeded.

They are "counter-cultural" landscapes, almost like Ed Burtinsky, but without the emotional/political agenda. I think this might just be a new genre – and I'm not saying this to be funny or condescending. We are so overwhelmed with the "trophy" landscapes that depict places at the "perfect" time. Maybe it's time for some anti-landscapes!

No fireworks and no-technicolor effects here. And I agree with you....not-trophy (at the contrary, again I agree, flat and common) and spectacular lanscape.  But I like this kind of mood and the contemplative mood/attitude one (me) can express also in this kind of image.
No problem for me if this is not "special" in the common-mainstream sense. I only hope technical values are here decent....and maybe someone else could find some humble value this "flat" panorama of ice,rocks, trees, sky.   The problem you purpose (anti-landscape) is IMHO very interesting, much more than my images here.  Thank you both for particular criticism and general problem purposing, and all the best,
sandro