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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 28, 2016, 08:13:17 pm

Title: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 28, 2016, 08:13:17 pm
Had some free time over the Thanksgiving weekend, went back to Chicago:

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5752/31306852775_9275297a84_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PGtNBH)
Lines and Lights (https://flic.kr/p/PGtNBH) by Slobodan Blagojevic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/slobodan_blagojevic/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5729/30938560080_3e875739c7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P8Wd2E)
Chicago Colors (https://flic.kr/p/P8Wd2E) by Slobodan Blagojevic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/slobodan_blagojevic/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: BobDavid on November 28, 2016, 10:42:06 pm
The first one!!
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 28, 2016, 11:42:15 pm
The first one!!
Yes.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Patricia Sheley on November 29, 2016, 12:31:31 am
...and this makes three! Wish the right side of right tree hadn't slipped out but love it just the same.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: John R on November 29, 2016, 12:45:14 am
Tsk, tsk, you guys are very partial to BW images. I sometimes wonder why I like some BW images even more than their colour versions. I tend to feel guilty when this happens because we do live in a world of colour after all. The first has a strong graphic look. But the colour version is also strong and unusual even in a colour context. Nice work.

JR
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Patricia Sheley on November 29, 2016, 12:54:49 am
" But the colour version is also strong and unusual even in a colour context. Nice work." quote JR

...I'd jump all over the colour in a heartbeat if SB would consider working the lower left out of equation. Powerful and strong and graphic and almost emblematic.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Rob C on November 29, 2016, 04:34:13 am
" But the colour version is also strong and unusual even in a colour context. Nice work." quote JR

...I'd jump all over the colour in a heartbeat if SB would consider working the lower left out of equation. Powerful and strong and graphic and almost emblematic.

Not sure if I get your drift, Patricia; did you mean him to remove the piece of red?

If so, I disagree strongly: for me, it makes the balance of weights, without which the entire image would be in perpetual motion and falling down to the right... The only way to avoid doing that, IMO, would be to raise the entire baseline right up into the right edge of the lower greenish/cyan strip of window, thus making a different image and losing much of the elegant legs trunks. And even then, it would lose most of its dynamic.

You can see the effect by slowly sliding the right-hand bar of your computer upwards... no way as strong a pic.

Rob
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Rob C on November 29, 2016, 04:51:17 am
Tsk, tsk, you guys are very partial to BW images. I sometimes wonder why I like some BW images even more than their colour versions. I tend to feel guilty when this happens because we do live in a world of colour after all. The first has a strong graphic look. But the colour version is also strong and unusual even in a colour context. Nice work.

JR

The extension to which would have to be: so why even bother to make an image when the reality has to exist already, totally independently of one's input?

That's one of my problems with most landscape, of course: it's just opportunism and having a vague idea of how to catch what's sitting in front of one.

Then another problem is getting oneself into a rut, and simply repeating the same technique ad nauseam. I'm very aware of the danger, even within my own oeuvre, and it sticks in my eye like a thorn when it's somebody else caught in that trap, because another's sin is always more vile than one's own.

Frankly, I think it's a danger we face when we try to keep photographically busy doing something without really having any firm idea of what; if anything, I suppose that street allows for a greater degree of diversity in an individual's approach to image making, if only because the snapper has less control. But even then, he's trapped within the width of his vision. There are few geniuses.

Rob
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: RSL on November 29, 2016, 07:36:39 am
Bravo Slobodan!
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: graeme on November 29, 2016, 07:54:12 am
Nice work. I find the second one 'Christmassy' in a clinical way.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Patricia Sheley on November 29, 2016, 08:34:26 am
" did you mean him to remove the piece of red? " quote Rob

To the contrary, It is the removal of the caterpillar-like darkness and the dark beneath its pods, allowing the the juicy red and cyans to work their magic there with the balance of the image. It's not mine to say, and perhaps I should not have, but selfishly wanted to clear the obscuring away...
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: churly on November 29, 2016, 06:03:06 pm
Bit late to the game as I wanted to see them on large screen before commenting.  My first response was to the cleaness or crispness of both images, the lines in the first and the color in the second.  Still feels that way on the larger screen.  Well done!
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: BobDavid on November 29, 2016, 07:17:07 pm
Bit late to the game as I wanted to see them on large screen before commenting.  My first response was to the cleaness or crispness of both images, the lines in the first and the color in the second.  Still feels that way on the larger screen.  Well done!

Beyond Slobodan's impeccable technique, is a sophisticated and refined way of identifying and presenting pattern, rhythm, and play of light in architecture. The black and white photo is a fine example. I would have never guessed it was an image of a parking structure until looking at it for awhile. That is one hell of an abstract picture.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 29, 2016, 07:22:08 pm
Beyond Slobodan's impeccable technique, is a sophisticated and refined way of identifying and presenting pattern, rhythm, and play of light in architecture. The black and white photo is a fine example. I would have never guessed it was an image of a parking structure until looking at it for awhile. That is one hell of an abstract picture.
Right on!
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: fdisilvestro on November 30, 2016, 07:15:23 am
Those are great images Slobodan. I like them both!
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 30, 2016, 05:18:15 pm
Btw, the first image was shot at ISO 10,000, hand-held. What a progress the digital has made in recent years!
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: BobDavid on November 30, 2016, 06:35:10 pm
Btw, the first image was shot at ISO 10,000, hand-held. What a progress the digital has made in recent years!

The future is now.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 30, 2016, 11:53:48 pm
Btw, the first image was shot at ISO 10,000, hand-held. What a progress the digital has made in recent years!
What? Hand-held?? I have always used a tripod with ISO 10,000 shots.   8)

(None of my cameras have room for that many digits.   :'(  )
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Chris Calohan on December 01, 2016, 10:37:20 am
I regularly shoot ISO 8000-10000 and up to 25,6 all handheld when doing local concert shooting in the worst kind of light there is - big-assed Kleigs with colored gel filters. I use to some degree NIK's Define de-noising but it general just leave them the heck alone as I kind of like the grit.

This was shot with a Nikon D810 coupled to a Nikkor 80-400 at f/5.6, 1/100 ISO 10,000 handheld.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: RSL on December 01, 2016, 11:52:29 am
What possible difference does it make whether you're shooting at ISO 8 or ISO 800,000? The result is the result is the result, and it's the result that matters. Good pictures aren't made by a camera; they're made by a mind.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 01, 2016, 11:58:42 am
What possible difference does it make whether you're shooting at ISO 8 or ISO 800,000? The result is the result is the result, and it's the result that matters. Good pictures aren't made by a camera; they're made by a mind.

Yes, agreed on the importance of the mind and image over technique, however... we are using that technique to connect the mind to the image, so it does make a difference ultimately. Some of the images we are making today simply would not be possible only a few years ago (or they would have looked like crap).
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: RSL on December 01, 2016, 12:11:32 pm
You're right, Slobodan. You definitely need a camera to make photographs, just as you need a brush if you're going to paint (unless you plan to do the Jackson Pollock thing and drip). And beyond that, as you say, you need technique. But what  is technique other than a mental approach to the subject? Let's face it, framing is almost everything. You need to know what to include and what to leave out.

Yeah, I know about those images that weren't possible. I tried to shoot a lot of them. But I'll also tell you this: I made shots in 2000 with a Casio 3 mpx camera that not long ago I printed at 17 x 27, and that are now hanging on my walls. If you look closely you can see that some detail has been lost, but you need to get close, preferably with a magnifier to see the loss of detail. At proper viewing distance they're just hunky-dory.

I keep telling the people in the local photo club that it's not what's in your hand that matters; it's what's in your head. I'll stand by that.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 01, 2016, 02:12:16 pm
I keep telling the people in the local photo club that it's not what's in your hand that matters; it's what's in your head. I'll stand by that.

We used to say the same about snazzy stethoscopes: it's what's between the earpieces that matters.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: RSL on December 01, 2016, 02:16:03 pm
That's a truth that goes far beyond medicine or photography, Jeremy.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Patricia Sheley on December 01, 2016, 08:13:44 pm
"Good pictures aren't made by a camera; they're made by a mind." Quote Russ.
Excellent, and mind's eye.
Title: Re: Lines, Lights & Colors of Chicago
Post by: Dave (Isle of Skye) on December 03, 2016, 02:22:35 pm
I have looked at both these images quite a few times now and even though they didn't really hit my photographic sweet spot (can't think of any other term at the moment, but I am sure you know what I mean), yet I still kept coming back and looking at them both, which is perhaps to think what I would have done given the same situation, I don't know.

But I can say that they are both well seen and well done and have certainly put quite a few ideas into my head, so perhaps I should just say that for me, they are more inspirational than they are inspiring (or should that be the other way around), which sounds harsh but I do not mean it to be harsh in any way, as I think to inspire ideas in someone else through your work, really is an excellent thing to be able to do and I thank you for that.

When it comes to thoughtful and architectural abstracts with an artistic twist, you really are the man Slobodan  ;)