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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: armand on September 28, 2016, 12:18:28 pm

Title: Which version?
Post by: armand on September 28, 2016, 12:18:28 pm
Otherworldly phenomenon (my shadow, projected on the clouds created by cold wind from the right meeting moist air from the left, surrounded by a rainbow due to diffraction, I think).

I tried different combinations of framing, limited partially by my position and lens as well as the intermittent sun and the fact I had to get moving before I'm too separated from the group. I'm not sure which would work the best as there are 2 points of interests, the Jekyll an Hyde appearance of the landscape which was the initial reason for the shot and my shadow surrounded by rainbow which I've noticed after and tried to include in the composition.
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: muntanela on September 28, 2016, 01:04:35 pm
I prefere the first one, although the peak at the end of the ridge is a little too close to the upper edge. The phenomenon is  the Brocken spectre, (Glory), I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brocken_spectre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brocken_spectre)
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 28, 2016, 03:34:16 pm
#2 if you crop it to, say, 8x10 format (vertically).
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 28, 2016, 04:19:04 pm
OK, then, I'll go for #4, which has the essentials and just enough mountain.
Anybody for #3?
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: Telecaster on September 28, 2016, 05:07:45 pm
IMO #4 is the one if your shadow is the subject.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: churly on September 28, 2016, 06:24:30 pm
IMO #4 is the one if your shadow is the subject.

-Dave-
Agreed
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: fdisilvestro on September 29, 2016, 07:57:32 am
Another vote for #4
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: armand on September 29, 2016, 10:20:05 am
Thank you for the replies. It does bring a little more focus on number 4 although I'm not yet decided as neither fully fits what I wanted.

I prefere the first one, although the peak at the end of the ridge is a little too close to the upper edge. The phenomenon is  the Brocken spectre, (Glory), I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brocken_spectre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brocken_spectre)

Good to know, I've never seen or heard of it and that explanation was the best I came up with.


In retrospect making this topic a poll was not a good idea, I don't even see the results that easily.
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: francois on September 29, 2016, 10:20:38 am
#4 forme with #3 being a close second.
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: RSL on September 29, 2016, 03:11:34 pm
Armand, I hate even to have to ask this question, but my curiosity is killing me. Is the halo around the figure's head the sun or is it a touch from the adjustment brush?
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: armand on September 29, 2016, 03:16:51 pm
As I wrote above I think it's secondary to diffraction. It is a little accentuated by an adjustment brush to make it look how I saw it at that time but the overall appearance is not changed.
If you follow the link by muntanela you will see similar shots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brocken_spectre
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: armand on September 29, 2016, 03:18:52 pm
Armand, I hate even to have to ask this question, but my curiosity is killing me. Is the halo around the figure's head the sun or is it a touch from the adjustment brush?

here are some images: https://www.google.com/search?q=Brocken+spectre&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFxoGepbXPAhVLwGMKHenlCIYQsAQIQQ&biw=1920&bih=1091
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: muntanela on September 29, 2016, 03:47:24 pm
Good to know, I've never seen or heard of it and that explanation was the best I came up with.


Galen Rowell  was rather obsessed with this phenomenon (and similar), see G. Rowell, The inner game of outdoor photography.
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: RSL on September 29, 2016, 04:06:56 pm
I guess the problem is that if you know anything about photography and about software like Photoshop it's awfully hard to believe it's real -- even if it is.
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: fdisilvestro on September 29, 2016, 05:39:55 pm
It is a real and fascinating phenomena Russ. As Muntanela wrote, Galen Rowell was obsessed with it. The phenomenon can be seen from airplanes some times.
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on September 29, 2016, 07:42:41 pm
I had never heard of Rocken spectre, but I find this fascinating.
To think: Nature can beat PhotoShop at its own game!   ;)
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: RSL on September 29, 2016, 07:54:33 pm
It is a real and fascinating phenomena Russ. As Muntanela wrote, Galen Rowell was obsessed with it. The phenomenon can be seen from airplanes some times.

Hi Francisco, Yep, I've seen it from airplanes and I've also seen balls of St. Elmo's fire roll across my wings at night. But the problem here is that even though, as Eric says, nature can beat Photoshop, it can't make you believe it's not Photoshop. I like Armand's pictures, though.
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: Telecaster on October 03, 2016, 05:04:20 pm
Once you know that a healthy percentage of "scallops" are in fact created cookie cutter style from firm fish like flounder, you have to wonder about what exactly you'd be getting if you ordered them even at a renowned restaurant.   :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Which version?
Post by: David Eckels on October 03, 2016, 05:19:00 pm
#1
My eye was caught up in the contrast between the cliffs and the mists then surprised by the leaping man spectre in the bottom of frame. Cool images any way you look at them.