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Title: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: StuartOnline on June 08, 2016, 12:16:40 pm
Adobe this morning released Lightroom CC 2015.6
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2016/06/lightroom-cc-2015-6-now-available.html

There is a video out by Laura Shoe of some of the update features:
https://youtu.be/U8OUoAxNZFE

Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: john beardsworth on June 08, 2016, 12:55:28 pm
While Guided Upright may attract most eyeballs, take a close look at the speed improvements moving between images in Develop. They can be astonishing. I have written some notes about it here (http://lightroomsolutions.com/cc2015-6-6-6-released/).
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: stingray on June 08, 2016, 01:08:46 pm
Well spotted regarding speed.  It would be interesting to get feedback re positive, neutral or negative  experiences.

Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Rhossydd on June 08, 2016, 02:34:34 pm
Anyone found a download link yet for the windows upgrade ?
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: RikkFlohr on June 08, 2016, 03:47:47 pm
http://swupdl.adobe.com/updates/oobe/aam20/win/AdobeLightroom-6.0/6.6/setup.zip

from

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2013/06/keeping-lightroom-up-to-date.html
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Rhossydd on June 08, 2016, 04:05:28 pm
Thanks Rikk.

Finding things like that on the Adobe site is next to impossible. The search system only offered the 5.7.1 update.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: hanzo on June 09, 2016, 08:19:10 am
can I upgrade from 6.0 straight to 6.6 ? if yes, I will delete previous update files  :)
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: RikkFlohr on June 09, 2016, 11:44:31 am
Any version of 6.x can be updated to the latest version of 6.x.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on June 09, 2016, 12:13:23 pm
Any version of 6.x can be updated to the latest version of 6.x.

Hi Rikk,

So perpetual licensed versions can be upgraded to incorporate the latest features (like, user assisted
Upright), or only updated to bug fixes and recent camera profiles?

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: john beardsworth on June 09, 2016, 01:08:51 pm
So perpetual licensed versions can be upgraded to incorporate the latest features (like, user assisted
Upright), or only updated to bug fixes and recent camera profiles?

No, he didn't say that at all. It's the same as before. Upgrading to the current perpetual licence version means no new features, just bug fixes, new cameras/lenses, and changes to existing features such as 6.2's Import dialog and 6.6's performance boost in Develop.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: dwswager on June 09, 2016, 01:23:17 pm
While Guided Upright may attract most eyeballs, take a close look at the speed improvements moving between images in Develop. They can be astonishing. I have written some notes about it here (http://lightroomsolutions.com/cc2015-6-6-6-released/).

+1 The speed of Lightroom code is a real drawback.  Speed improvements are always appreciated.

But the HDR/Pano capability on Smart Previews is also a plus.  Smart previews and the ability to work on images away from my studio is the big reason I've started using Lr.  I only keep a small catalog of "current" work on my laptop and the smart previews are brilliant!
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: RikkFlohr on June 09, 2016, 01:59:19 pm
Hi Rikk,

So perpetual licensed versions can be upgraded to incorporate the latest features (like, user assisted
Upright), or only updated to bug fixes and recent camera profiles?

Cheers,
Bart

New features are only available to CC2015.x - not to 6.x.  The poster asked if they could upgrade 6.0 (Perpetual) directly to 6.6 (Perpetual) which is allowed.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on June 09, 2016, 06:37:40 pm
New features are only available to CC2015.x - not to 6.x.  The poster asked if they could upgrade 6.0 (Perpetual) directly to 6.6 (Perpetual) which is allowed.

Rikk, I don't follow what you are saying:
1. "New features are only available to CC2015.x - not to 6.x."

So Perpetual license LR 6.x, or 6.0 in this case, will not have the new features after updating.

2. "The poster asked if they could upgrade 6.0 (Perpetual) directly to 6.6 (Perpetual) which is allowed."

What does allowed to upgrade mean? Buy a new version 6.6?

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: fdisilvestro on June 09, 2016, 06:52:10 pm
Hi Bart

Perpetual 6.x licence owners can upgrade to 6.6, which means support for new camera & lenses and performance improvements but will not get new features like the "guided" straightening.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on June 09, 2016, 07:07:54 pm
Hi Bart

Perpetual 6.x licence owners can upgrade to 6.6, which means support for new camera & lenses and performance improvements but will not get new features like the "guided" straightening.

Hi Frank,

There may be confusion about updating (=bugfixes and new camera support) and upgrading (new features). Updating from 6.0 to 6.6 is not the same as upgrading from 6.0 to 6.6 .

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: fdisilvestro on June 09, 2016, 07:27:18 pm
Hi Bart,

Yes, I guess you're right. It should be an update.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on June 10, 2016, 10:39:33 am
Thanks Rikk.

Finding things like that on the Adobe site is next to impossible. The search system only offered the 5.7.1 update.

Do you have the Creative Cloud Updater on your system? If so, click it open and it tells you which updates to your CC applications are available and lets you download and install seamlessly. At least this is how I did it yesterday on my Mac - OSX El Capitan. Similar should exist on Windows for Windows users.

I was most interested in the new transform functions and did a bit of testing last night. So far, they work very well; for those making photographs that often require asymmetrical perspective corrections, yet another tool in LR that saves a trip to Photoshop. BTW, people who subscribe to Victoria Bampton's Lightroom Queen can download very useful updates on how to use the new features.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: RikkFlohr on June 10, 2016, 10:55:51 am
Rikk, I don't follow what you are saying:
1. "New features are only available to CC2015.x - not to 6.x."

So Perpetual license LR 6.x, or 6.0 in this case, will not have the new features after updating.

2. "The poster asked if they could upgrade 6.0 (Perpetual) directly to 6.6 (Perpetual) which is allowed."

What does allowed to upgrade mean? Buy a new version 6.6?

Cheers,
Bart

Reread: The original post by the poster asked if they could upgrade, I said they could update
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on June 10, 2016, 11:03:59 am
Reread: The original post by the poster asked if they could upgrade, I said they could update

Rikk, I can sympathize with Bart's question because I think it's easy to be confused between the two concepts in the context of the available software options. I am a CC subscriber (the Photo package of LR/PS on monthly subscription) so this doesn't affect me personally; but for clarity, you may correct me if I am mistaken, but perhaps it may be useful to state the conditions as follows:

<<people with a perpetual license may update dot releases within their current application version at no charge, but they will not have access to some new features available in the subscription versions. People who wish to change their licensing mode (let's not call it upgrade) from perpetual license to monthly subscription may do so at any time by signing up and agreeing to pay the going monthly fee for the package. Having done so, they keep their perpetual licensed version anyhow, but can use and benefit from the new features in the subscription versions for as long as they remain subscribed.>>
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: dwswager on June 10, 2016, 11:33:23 am
The larger point to be made vis a vis the dichotomy between CC and Perpetual license Lr is that it probably costs more and has more logistical issues to maintain Lr updates without the features of CC.  That is to say, they are either keeping two different code bases which they are updating or the functionality updates (Dehaze, Guided Upright, etc) are locked/unlocked via the validation mechanism.  In the first case, there are real costs involved and in the second case, they are just being pricks.  In both cases, the point is to drive people to the subscription model. 

Full Disclosure...I have the CC Photography Plan at a current rate of $7.99/month.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on June 10, 2016, 11:44:53 am
The larger point to be made vis a vis the dichotomy between CC and Perpetual license Lr is that it probably costs more and has more logistical issues to maintain Lr updates without the features of CC.  That is to say, they are either keeping two different code bases which they are updating or the functionality updates (Dehaze, Guided Upright, etc) are locked/unlocked via the validation mechanism.  In the first case, there are real costs involved and in the second case, they are just being pricks.  In both cases, the point is to drive people to the subscription model. 

Full Disclosure...I have the CC Photography Plan at a current rate of $7.99/month.

I'm not going to engage in the rhetoric of calling other people "pricks". People more often than not have reasons for doing what they are doing and it's their privilege as long as the options are available. I was just trying to clarify the options, not pass judgment on people exercising the one or the other. From my own experience however, I would like to emphasize that once one gets accustomed to having many of the new features that get introduced from time to time in the CC versions, I would be loathe to do without them in the future. So fundamentally, that is how Adobe is managing to steer us all into the subscription model. Some may call it arm-twisting, and fair enough maybe it is, but I think in the final analysis a good kind of arm-twisting because we get the new features as soon as they are ready for prime-time and the annual cost of this is no more - indeed perhaps less - than we used to pay for the periodic major release upgrades on the old 18-month cycle. Anyhow, this is an old discussion - the new aspect is that we've now had the benefit of time to see how it is playing out, and for my money, this is good value. We're getting very useful application improvements at reasonable cost.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on June 10, 2016, 11:45:48 am
That is to say, they are either keeping two different code bases which they are updating or the functionality updates (Dehaze, Guided Upright, etc) are locked/unlocked via the validation mechanism.  In the first case, there are real costs involved and in the second case, they are just being pricks.

The new features are just disabled for perpetual license holders, same code base, just switched off to not show the controls. Things like Dehaze simply work when one manually edits a preset and chooses that.

Quote
In both cases, the point is to drive people to the subscription model.

Yes, pretty obvious.

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on June 10, 2016, 11:47:30 am
[...] but for clarity, you may correct me if I am mistaken, but perhaps it may be useful to state the conditions as follows:

<<people with a perpetual license may update dot releases within their current application version at no charge, but they will not have access to some new features available in the subscription versions. People who wish to change their licensing mode (let's not call it upgrade) from perpetual license to monthly subscription may do so at any time by signing up and agreeing to pay the going monthly fee for the package. Having done so, they keep their perpetual licensed version anyhow, but can use and benefit from the new features in the subscription versions for as long as they remain subscribed.>>

I agree with Mark, and that's a good summary as far as I can see.

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: jrsforums on June 10, 2016, 01:07:17 pm

Full Disclosure...I have the CC Photography Plan at a current rate of $7.99/month.

$7.99, not $9.99?
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: mcbroomf on June 10, 2016, 06:00:04 pm
$7.99, not $9.99?
It was available at a discount last Oct/Nov, good for 1 year then back to $9.99.  Not sure if that's what dws got
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: dwswager on June 10, 2016, 08:36:46 pm
It was available at a discount last Oct/Nov, good for 1 year then back to $9.99.  Not sure if that's what dws got

I Googled for deals.  A lot of Ps/Lr guru sites offer deals from Adobe from time to time.

Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: pegelli on June 12, 2016, 01:22:27 pm
The larger point to be made vis a vis the dichotomy between CC and Perpetual license Lr is that it probably costs more and has more logistical issues to maintain Lr updates without the features of CC.  That is to say, they are either keeping two different code bases which they are updating or the functionality updates (Dehaze, Guided Upright, etc) are locked/unlocked via the validation mechanism.  In the first case, there are real costs involved and in the second case, they are just being pricks.  In both cases, the point is to drive people to the subscription model. 

Full Disclosure...I have the CC Photography Plan at a current rate of $7.99/month.
I don't think they have two different codes, only two different UI's. That explains why perpetual license users can still download and use dehaze presets. The only thing they don't have is the slider.

 Btw, next to an update there is also a small upgrade for perpetual license users in this release. You now have X-axis and Y-axis offset available, which is new functionality vs. 6.5
That can come in handy when using perspective or other corrections to access pixels that are falling outside the original frame, In the past you could only recover those by reducing the scale, but this is much better.
Thanks Adobe  :)
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Christopher on June 12, 2016, 05:01:19 pm
And it looks like they forgot the Phase One IQ 3100 again.... I thinks it's time to delete my CC subscription...


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on June 12, 2016, 07:12:44 pm
And it looks like they forgot the Phase One IQ 3100 again.... I thinks it's time to delete my CC subscription...


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu

Perhaps it would be preferable to use Capture One for the Phase One work? Their profiles are well-customized to all their equipment.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Denis de Gannes on June 12, 2016, 07:16:29 pm
Perhaps it would be preferable to use Capture One for the Phase One work? Their profiles are well-customized to all their equipment.
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Christopher on June 13, 2016, 01:31:00 am
For raw conversion yes, but I have to say it is frustrating that I can't use Lightroom anymore for my workflow. I have been using it since version one for, sorting, rating, keywording and so on. It just doesn't make sense to use two programs for that stuff especially if until now all files are in Lightroom incl. all phase 45/65/180/350 files...


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on June 13, 2016, 09:16:16 am
For raw conversion yes, but I have to say it is frustrating that I can't use Lightroom anymore for my workflow. I have been using it since version one for, sorting, rating, keywording and so on. It just doesn't make sense to use two programs for that stuff especially if until now all files are in Lightroom incl. all phase 45/65/180/350 files...


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu

Well, actually you can, but it does still mean using two apps instead of one. Once you do the raw conversion and basic colour balance in C1, you can save the file out as a TIFF, then import it to your LR catalog and implement all the remainder of your file management and workflow as usual. For sure you are no longer working a raw file, but LR performs very well on TIFFs and at least you don't accumulate massive storage requirements with layers.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: john beardsworth on June 13, 2016, 10:00:17 am
And it looks like they forgot the Phase One IQ 3100 again.... I thinks it's time to delete my CC subscription...
Christopher Hauser

You were told only a couple of weeks ago (https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/when-can-i-get-support-for-my-phase-one-iq-3100-16bit-iiq-files-in-lightroom-camera-raw) that "the team is working with the camera vendor but we [Adobe] do not have any eta we can share at this time. "
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Christopher on June 13, 2016, 10:02:19 am
And ? Still gives me right to be pissed about it. And as we all know "no eta" could mean never as well... As this was a bigger update the hope was there they managed it...


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on June 13, 2016, 10:14:22 am
And ? Still gives me right to be pissed about it. And as we all know "no eta" could mean never as well... As this was a bigger update the hope was there they managed it...


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu

Well, actually it doesn't. LR supports hundreds of cameras. It takes time to make or adapt, test and publish these profiles. You can't expect them to have every last camera catalogued before they release an update that all others can benefit from, especially for such high-end models that are owned by a tiny percentage of their user base (considering that most Phase One camera owners are likely using C1 anyhow and they know it). If Rikk says they are working on it, I would take his word for it.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Christopher on June 13, 2016, 10:17:18 am
Yes it takes time just was hoping it wouldn't take more than 6 months....  But your right lets keep waiting and try other options for managing a huge database of images, perhaps at one point LR won't be needed anymore at all.


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: john beardsworth on June 13, 2016, 10:18:30 am
Cancel your subscription if you wish, but you've been told they're working on it. In timing terms, you were just unlucky. Not "pissed" that you'd bought a new camera before checking it was supported or that P1 hadn't offered a DNG option? 
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: john beardsworth on June 13, 2016, 10:20:18 am
I know that at least one member of this forum used Exiftool to modify the model number of another P1 format before it was supported. I wouldn't want to do that myself, but if it's a temporary fix....
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: MBehrens on June 13, 2016, 04:22:26 pm
CC 2015.6 crashed on me twice over the weekend while I was on the road. Seemed to have been around the raw caching in develop module. Have not isolated exactly what triggers it. My laptop isn't nearly as powerful as my desktop so we'll see how things go when I get home tonight.

Anyone else experiencing crashing?
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on June 13, 2016, 04:28:38 pm
No, I'm using it on a 2010 MacPro and it's fine. (But I have 24GB RAM and 24 virtual cores - maybe that helps.)
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Dan Wells on June 13, 2016, 05:05:48 pm
Absolutely massive improvements in Fuji (X-Pro 2) preview rendering speed. It could previously take as long as 20 minutes just to get the thumbnails up when importing a full 64 GB card of X-Pro 2 images. New version is effectively instant (much less than a minute, just like any other camera). Also has big improvements in shot-to-shot speed and syncing images with Lightroom Mobile, again with X-Pro 2 files. This may NOT actually be a faster Fuji converter - it's entirely possible that it's simply gotten smarter about handling the JPEG files for thumbnails and previews, since none of these operations absolutely require the raw file...
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Christopher on June 13, 2016, 05:53:02 pm
Oh if I could be bothered I could be pissed about a lot of stuff. But why bother...

Oh and your right why would I ever hope for a support for a new back after 6 months.

Don't get me wrong, I am pretty sure Phase isn't the biggest help to Adobe in that regard.

It's just the short reaction after hearing "working on it" -->new release -> oh didn't make it.

You last tip, don't think it would work as it is a newish file format.


Christopher Hauser
ch@chauser.eu
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Paul2660 on June 13, 2016, 08:30:00 pm
Absolutely massive improvements in Fuji (X-Pro 2) preview rendering speed. It could previously take as long as 20 minutes just to get the thumbnails up when importing a full 64 GB card of X-Pro 2 images. New version is effectively instant (much less than a minute, just like any other camera). Also has big improvements in shot-to-shot speed and syncing images with Lightroom Mobile, again with X-Pro 2 files. This may NOT actually be a faster Fuji converter - it's entirely possible that it's simply gotten smarter about handling the JPEG files for thumbnails and previews, since none of these operations absolutely require the raw file...

Dan, did you see any improvement in the actual raw conversion for Fuji? 

Thanks
Paul C
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Rhossydd on June 17, 2016, 03:18:40 pm
take a close look at the speed improvements moving between images in Develop. They can be astonishing. I have written some notes about it
Not noticing anything like that here, images change pretty much as fast as before.
In fact, after some use over the last week, I'm seeing the develop sliders being slightly more sluggish in response.

W7 32gb ram 3.9ghz i7 separate SSDs for program, catalogue and files, GTX470 3840x1440 desktop
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Paul2660 on June 17, 2016, 06:05:13 pm
Not noticing anything like that here, images change pretty much as fast as before.
In fact, after some use over the last week, I'm seeing the develop sliders being slightly more sluggish in response.

W7 32gb ram 3.9ghz i7 separate SSDs for program, catalogue and files, GTX470 3840x1440 desktop

Same for me, Win7 64 bit, SSD for OS and separate SSD for Catalog.  32GB ram, GTX970 4GB. 

There is a bit of a speed boost, maybe 30%, but I am still not seeing anything really hit the GPU, (per the Asus monitoring software) where as with Photoshop CC, you can see it hitting the card.   So it seems to be all processor and memory working in LR.  I will take the 30% for sure!!.

Still seeing a strange lock up, that I started getting with the last version, where with the adjustment brush, it freezes momentarily while drawing with the brush, then it tries to catch up, but then all the ensuing brush strokes are black, and the program locks up hard.  On reboot, the existing adjustment brush icons no longer show up, and you have to go back and turn that feature on.

I am not using Smart previews and on average I will have 8 or so adjustment brushes in a file, (most of my work is now done in LR) very little in CC, only topaz clarity.

Paul C 
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Wayne Fox on June 18, 2016, 01:57:45 am
Oh if I could be bothered I could be pissed about a lot of stuff. But why bother...

Oh and your right why would I ever hope for a support for a new back after 6 months.


I can't even get a back after confirming the order over 6 months ago ...
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Scho on June 26, 2016, 06:35:55 pm
Watch out if you are printing direct from LR to a Canon ipF LF printer.  Something got broken in the printing pipeline with this latest LR update that will produce off color when printing with a color managed workflow.  I'm currently getting around this by exporting tif files to the ColorBurst Overdrive RIP to get correct color from my iPF6100.

http://canonipf.wikispaces.com/share/view/78942553
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: John Hollenberg on June 30, 2016, 09:24:31 pm
Watch out if you are printing direct from LR to a Canon ipF LF printer.

Looks like a Mac only problem.  Not seeing this on Win 7/64 on Canon ipf6300.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: jtmiller on June 30, 2016, 09:46:27 pm
This version isn't importing from iPhone 6. Not fun.

jim
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on June 30, 2016, 10:29:57 pm
There is also a bug on Mac when printing from both LR and the last version of Photoshop.
How to roll back a version (assuming you're on a Mac and want to print):
https://blog.conradchavez.com/2014/06/30/how-to-install-earlier-versions-of-creative-cloud-applications/
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: RikkFlohr on July 01, 2016, 07:45:27 pm
Additional information regarding printing in the Mac environment in LR 2015.6 https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/unexpected-colors-when-printing-mac.html
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 01, 2016, 07:48:57 pm
Additional information regarding printing in the Mac environment in LR 2015.6 https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/unexpected-colors-when-printing-mac.html (https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/unexpected-colors-when-printing-mac.html)
Do you believe that's true Rikk? I think it's BS. The URL states:
The older Epson 3880 printer drivers have incorrect profiles associated with the following paper types: Ultra Premium Luster, Premium Photo Glossy, WaterColor Paper Radian White, and UltraSmooth Fine Art. When you select one of these paper profiles, the colors are incorrect and do not match the previous versions of Lightroom.To resolve this issue, download and install the latest printer driver for the Epson Stylus Pro 3880 (http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?oid=141552&infoType=Downloads) : Mac OS: Download printer driver v9.33 or later.Note:On Epson's download page, make sure that you select the correct operating system and that you download the driver version with the latest release date.


So I took that advise. Downloaded the 3880 driver again. I did an uninstall by removing the printer from Print/Fax. This is what I'd expect 90+% of Adobe customers would do as there is no Epson uninstaller!

Then I reinstalled the driver as they recommend.

I printed my color reference image, on Exhibition Fiber. That paper isn't listed as being an issue above. Doesn't matter however as they tell us that following the suggestions with the latest driver is a fix anyway.

I printed with LRCC and LR 5. THEY DO NOT MATCH! Of course, if what they wrote above were accurate, they would match.

So I think based on my experience and those of other's thus far who've tried this, it's an Adobe smoke screen. But maybe I did something wrong. So I suggest Adobe or anyone else provide text from someone who did suffer this bug, tried what that URL suggests, and found it fixed the problem.

Do you have a printer you can test this fix on?
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 01, 2016, 08:40:21 pm
Until Adobe proves to me that it isn't BS, it is BS. The problem only arose using the latest version of LR/PS - all was working extremely well before that and nothing else had changed in either methodology or printing set-up and materials.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 01, 2016, 08:47:59 pm
Until Adobe proves to me that it isn't BS, it is BS. The problem only arose using the latest version of LR/PS - all was working extremely well before that and nothing else had changed in either methodology or printing set-up and materials.
Did the 'fix' Rikk suggested from the URL work for you? If it didn't, seem like the BS factor goes higher.

We're told this is a driver bug. But the driver works properly for every other app but the two from Adobe just released. Are we to believe that there's this bug lurking in one, a dozen, all print drivers that manifest itself only when a new version of CC comes about but not the OS itself? Doesn't make sense to me but I'm not software engineer. But let's use some critical thinking here. Virtually everything in the Adobe URL either makes no sense or isn't very useful. We're told to uninstall the driver but there's no uninstaller from Epson who Adobe seems to be singling out here. Specifically the 3880 which you Mark are not using. They suggest we contact the print manufacturers:
Printer drivers will need to be updated to the latest Mac OS X print and color management API to work correctly with Photoshop CC 2015.5 and Lightroom CC 2015.6. Contact your printer vendor for updated drivers. Seems Adobe should be doing this... Few of us will get traction contacting the printer vendor.
The BS factor is up there IMHO (and this from a guy who's often called a so called "Adobe Fan boy")

Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 01, 2016, 09:16:01 pm
Did the 'fix' Rikk suggested from the URL work for you? If it didn't, seem like the BS factor goes higher.

We're told this is a driver bug. But the driver works properly for every other app but the two from Adobe just released. Are we to believe that there's this bug lurking in one, a dozen, all print drivers that manifest itself only when a new version of CC comes about but not the OS itself? Doesn't make sense to me but I'm not software engineer. But let's use some critical thinking here. Virtually everything in the Adobe URL either makes no sense or isn't very useful. We're told to uninstall the driver but there's no uninstaller from Epson who Adobe seems to be singling out here. Specifically the 3880 which you Mark are not using. They suggest we contact the print manufacturers:
Printer drivers will need to be updated to the latest Mac OS X print and color management API to work correctly with Photoshop CC 2015.5 and Lightroom CC 2015.6. Contact your printer vendor for updated drivers. Seems Adobe should be doing this... Few of us will get traction contacting the printer vendor.
The BS factor is up there IMHO (and this from a guy who's often called a so called "Adobe Fan boy")

No I'm not using a 3880. I'm using a P800 and an SP4900. Both have the latest drivers installed, so that factor is accounted for. Now, you and I have independently observed that the most egregious disconnect in colour rendition is the Blues (yes this is giving us the Blues alright, but not the nice soothing jazz type, I regret to say). Now, I mentioned I am doing colour printed accuracy research using a properly configured LAB version file of the GMCC 24 patch colour checker plus nine patches of extended grayscale (the same tools I've been using in my recent paper and printer reviews published on this website).  I made one of these target prints with the latest download of Photoshop CC a couple of days ago and when I measured it I saw immediately that the colours are whacked. The dE results are through the roof compared with what I usually get from my custom profiles made with professional grade X-Rite hardware and software, so I knew something was very wrong. I reviewed my whole workflow and found no flaws in it. So I was stumped. Then you initiated this thread indicating the colour management problem with the new Photoshop/LR versions. In response to that, I downloaded the previous version of Photoshop (rather then LR, as I need Absolute R.I. for these target prints) and printed it last night using the exact same profile and SAME EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE PHOTOSHOP VERSION - I used the previous version. I have now measured the Blue patch and the result is 28.26, 14.28, -51.37, which is very close to the file reference value. The same patch measured from the print made with the latest version of Photoshop measures 32.57, -1.11, -46.78, which is MANY dEs adrift from the reference values. We don't need a PhD in Colour Management or Deductive Logic to understand from this that the only difference creating incorrect values versus correct values is the difference between the two versions of Photoshop, because all other variables including the printer and the driver are identical. If the Adobe Staff cannot absorb this kind of information that you and I have been producing and stop their defensive nonsense, I'm sorry to say, but we are dealing with much more than a technical problem in that company and either their Senior Management, or in default of which, their Board needs to emerge from their delusional behaviour and deal with it.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 01, 2016, 09:47:49 pm
No I'm not using a 3880. I'm using a P800 and an SP4900. Both have the latest drivers installed, so that factor is accounted for.
Well IF you delete and reinstall and still get the same measurements, pretty much blows a hole in the Adobe URL that states this is a fix. That you see this issue with the P800 and 4900 also provides some data points that the URL fix from Adobe isn't correct. But if you're testing color stuff, I can see why it might not be a good idea to now delete one or both drivers as suggested. If you can, and it doesn't work, we've found three different printers and at least two users who can't get the Adobe fix to work. That's telling and points to the BS factor we suspect is coming from Adobe.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 01, 2016, 09:54:00 pm
Andrew, I'm not going to waste my time deleting and re-installing Epson printer drivers yet again. Adobe says we need to use the latest ones, I am doing that already - on two Epson printers that are not 3880s. As I've conclusively demonstrated that I get almost correct colour with the previous version of Photoshop and very incorrect color with the latest version of Photoshop ALL ELSE EQUAL, I think this is conclusive evidence that the problem is with the most recent versions of the Adobe applications and nothing whatsoever to do with Epson. They should stop wasting Epson's time and our time with this and just get on to acknowledging they need to fix their software. My mind is open, but so far their story is thoroughly unconvincing.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mac Mahon on July 02, 2016, 12:37:35 am
I just printed a test image to my Epson P800 (Mac OS10.11.5 with the latest Epson driver) using

LR 2016.6
LR2015.5.1
Affinity Pro 1.4.2 and
Roy Harrington’s QTR PtintTool

all through the same custom ICC profile onto Ilford Gallerie Smooth Pearl paper.

All prints are identical except that from LR 2015.6 where there is banding on smooth colour gradients and a muted appearance in highly saturated areas. 

The fact that 3 apps do the same thing (rightly AFAIK), and one doesn't, pretty much rules out the OS and the driver.  Not a thoroghly scientific test but supports what Mark and Andrew are saying.  They broke something in LR2015.6 print module.

Tim


Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: howardm on July 02, 2016, 10:33:35 am
For me, seems like I can't even access the previous version of LR via the Adobe CC app.  It simply doesn't show up  in the usual 'Previous Version' (ie. Lightroom is *missing* from the list).  I can however select PS CC 2015.  Am I simply being 'lucky' :/ here ?
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 02, 2016, 10:38:43 am
Howard, as of last night there is some updated info in the Adobe Forum indicating how to get the most recent previous version of LR. But it wipes your current version for better or worse. The Photoshop download does not wipe the current version. I downloaded PS CC 2015 also and it is working fine.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: howardm on July 02, 2016, 11:32:33 am
Thanks Mark.

I found the direct links here:
http://prodesigntools.com/adobe-cc-2015-direct-download-links.html

As you indicated, it does however overwrite the 2015.6 or whatever the new/broken version is.  I haven't tried to upgrade to latest, rename it and then re-install 2015 in the hopes of having both versions.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 02, 2016, 01:30:09 pm
For me, seems like I can't even access the previous version of LR via the Adobe CC app.
https://blog.conradchavez.com/2014/06/30/how-to-install-earlier-versions-of-creative-cloud-applications/
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 02, 2016, 01:33:22 pm
Howard, as of last night there is some updated info in the Adobe Forum indicating how to get the most recent previous version of LR. But it wipes your current version for better or worse. The Photoshop download does not wipe the current version. I downloaded PS CC 2015 also and it is working fine.
Another piece of advise I gave Adobe on their URL before it was uploaded was to tell us how to downgrade and if it would be possible to run the latest version of PS/LR and the last version just for printing. They didn't do that. That LR wipes out the newer version but PS doesn't, shows again that Adobe isn't paying attention, nor being consistent in their product line. Sad days!
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 02, 2016, 01:44:00 pm
Sad days!

Indeed. If there were any professionalism left in that management group you would think by now they would be reaching out to some of us to have a serious technical discussion about our findings. Instead of that, they have barricaded themselves behind a wall of utter BS and they expect experienced, knowledgeable people to buy into their nonsense. It's flabbergasting. We aren't even at stage one of a solution until they come out of denial and offer to explore all possible causes of this issue, from wherever including themselves.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: rdonson on July 02, 2016, 03:05:56 pm
Mark, professionalism in management is about increasing profits every quarter, stock options and bonuses.  Those of us with CC subscriptions likely don't represent much opportunity for increased revenue.  We likely are simply a steady amount of revenue they can count on as they explore growth in other areas such as mobile.

http://insiders.morningstar.com/trading/executive-compensation.action?t=ADBE

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/adobe-profit-nearly-triples-on-digital-media-sales-2016-03-17

 
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 02, 2016, 03:10:35 pm
None of that will happen if word spreads too far and wide that their products suck. For example, I've head that a great many of the professional studios in NYC are out of Lightroom and using Capture One these days. Even in this Forum we read of many participants using a variety of non-Adobe products. The integrated nature of the Adobe package is very attractive but only if it produces correct results without tearing our hair out.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: rdonson on July 02, 2016, 03:14:09 pm
That's probably true but how many shops or people have dropped their CC subscriptions?  If you maintain a CC subscription for PS, etc. but choose to run Capture One instead of Lr it doesn't hurt Adobe at all.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 02, 2016, 03:27:29 pm
I don't know the numbers, but Capture One has reached the point that this application alone combined with a RIP and perhaps some plugins can displace the need to use Photoshop for most purposes. There's a short term and a longer term. If a company is in it for the long haul, their survival depends on their reputation for reliability. For example HERO of Switzerland has been making jam and exporting it all over the world for the past 125 years - that's because decade after decade the bottle you're eating from now tastes the same as the last one you ate from. Adobe's reputation for reliability and predictability is being shaken due to a number of episodes over the past several years. I'm hanging-in anyhow for the time being, hoping they solve this soon; but if they don't, reluctantly I too shall be onto other workflows. It would be a pain, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but not indefinitely.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: rdonson on July 02, 2016, 03:38:54 pm
That may all be on the money, Mark, but CaptureOne is likely ONLY used by photographers.  I don't think the rest of the Adobe community of creatives (graphic designers, etc.) give a hoot about CaptureOne.  I don't have any numbers to support if Adobe is affected at all by photogs going to CaptureOne.

Could this eventually affect Adobe?  Probably but as it does I suspect Adobe will wake up and address some of the concerns then go back to their old ways.  This is just the way large corporations see things IMHO.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 02, 2016, 03:47:28 pm
Unfortunately you may well be right. There is a dearth of long-term thinking, in corporate North America at the least, where quarterly results seem to have a consuming importance. In some other places long-term strategy arguably counts for more. But you know, all that said and done, one would still like to hope that "reputation" matters to some people and they'll do the needful sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: rdonson on July 02, 2016, 04:17:49 pm
Quarterly results are currently the most thought of measurement in capitalism.  Wall Street gotta make money.  It's not easy to "short" every company on the exchange.  It seems like a house of cards but we're all invested in it in one way or another.

The best run companies do cherish their reputations and those of us who care about product quality look for shining reputations.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: ButchM on July 02, 2016, 09:17:49 pm
Indeed. If there were any professionalism left in that management group you would think by now they would be reaching out to some of us to have a serious technical discussion about our findings. Instead of that, they have barricaded themselves behind a wall of utter BS and they expect experienced, knowledgeable people to buy into their nonsense. It's flabbergasting. We aren't even at stage one of a solution until they come out of denial and offer to explore all possible causes of this issue, from wherever including themselves.

I posed this very scenario back in the early days of the CC only pathway for Adobe CS products. I worried that eventually management and the executives would prioritize profits over results instead of seeking a balanced approach that focuses on quality assurance. Though, I never expected so many incidents this soon in just one product cycle. I thought it would take a bit longer for them to fall prey to such a process.

What good is the 'Guided Upright' if a significant number of users can't accurately print that 'upright' image? It's just another failure in attention to detail before a version update is released.

Looking back on Lightroom 6.x/2015.x ... it has been a three ring circus comedy of errors with multiple minor and major fiascos that when scrutinized in toto, does not bode well for end users. It's been like they are asleep at the wheel.

So far, in the past year, for multiple updates, I have put off for several months updating Lightroom CC because of major issues caused by the ineptitude of those running the show for the Lightroom team. Yet, Adobe has received my monthly stipend without fail. They get their money ... I get problems and the absence of what I am paying for. On some level, reasonable thing folks could consider this theft of services by the developer.

What good is paying a fee every 30 days if they constantly screw up the application so I can't take advantage of the few new features, bug fixes and new camera/lens support offered in the updates? I end up paying for the new stuff, but can't use it because they release faulty, problematic products that hamper or entirely break my workflow.

We had to endure the Import Dialog Simplification implosion that took considerable valuable time for the engineers to rectify, not to mention the the problems most longtime traditional users had to endure because management thought they knew better. After which we end users received an apology and a promise they were going to 'listen' better ... they seem to have fallen tone deaf immediately afterward.

Then later on, it took three tries to restore the capability to export multiple images to Photoshop droplets after a botched update that broke the capability that had been around since at least Lr v2.

Now there are major ColorSync/printer profile issues for users of at least some Epson printers ... and Adobe insists it's the absence of OS and/or printer driver updates? ... When the proof in the pudding indicates no other apps created by other developers experience the same issues using the same exact OS versions and printer drivers they recommend applying?

Do they think we are idiots?

I must be, because I allowed my monthly payment for July 2016 to be paid to Adobe yesterday. I promise I won't be so forgiving if this trend continues until my next annual agreement comes around.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: pegelli on July 03, 2016, 04:21:33 am
Well said Butch

Although Lightroom is still my workhorse database/raw converter the current strategy to deal with the deteriorating performance is threefold:
- No subscription, only perpetual license and only update after all quirks are figured out
- Learning C1 (I find for some pics it's better, for some not as good), so I have an alternative raw processor I'm familiar with in case I feel I have to abandon LR
- Print from Photoshop CS3

That way I feel I'm not locked into Adobe in case things go further south.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mac Mahon on July 03, 2016, 05:37:22 am
Following up my earlier post on this.

Digging about, prompted by Adobe's suggested approach, I discovered a more recent SC-P800 driver (9.79) on Espson USA's site than we have here in the Antipodes (where latest is 9.69)
So I installed the new driver and printed Andrew's test image again using LR 2015.5.1 and LR 2015.6.
Result the same as before.  2015.5.1 gives a print in tune with every other print I've made of this image.  2015.6 prints flat and banded.

The driver ain't the issue.


Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: rdonson on July 03, 2016, 10:01:26 am
With all the gripes about Lr and the CC Photography offering perhaps it's time to find a better forum to complain that will get Adobe's attention.  I doubt that many Adobe staff members follow the LuLa forums.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: ButchM on July 03, 2016, 10:11:17 am
With all the gripes about Lr and the CC Photography offering perhaps it's time to find a better forum to complain that will get Adobe's attention.  I doubt that many Adobe staff members follow the LuLa forums.

Any suggestions?

Supposedly, the feedback forum is monitored by many Adobe employees ... though if you hope to influence change ... it seems to take a significant number of complaints to get management to take notice and at least attempt to address concerns.

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_photoshop_lightroom (https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_photoshop_lightroom)

and there is a thread on the topic already:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-2015-6-printing-broken-on-mac-os-10-11-5?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all&topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bpage%5D=1#reply_17008748 (https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-2015-6-printing-broken-on-mac-os-10-11-5?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all&topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bpage%5D=1#reply_17008748)
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 03, 2016, 10:24:24 am
So I installed the new driver and printed Andrew's test image again using LR 2015.5.1 and LR 2015.6.
Result the same as before.  2015.5.1 gives a print in tune with every other print I've made of this image.  2015.6 prints flat and banded.

The driver ain't the issue.
Thanks for checking! Thus far, about 48 hours after the Adobe suggestion, and despite them telling me they indeed tested this fix, I can't find anyone on numerous web forums who've found this fix works. Because it apparently doesn't! That's the kind of ammo I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: JRSmit on July 03, 2016, 12:48:10 pm
So is Adobe Lightroom crew now manned with nono's or is management failing big time?
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mark D Segal on July 03, 2016, 02:49:00 pm
Key people on the Lightroom development team are totally dedicated first class professionals. Nonetheless, mistakes and oversights can always happen, therefore QC in the first instance is supposed to be there to detect and require correction of those they find. In the final analysis, in any corporate environment there is a clear pecking order of responsibility, and in the case of software I suppose the ultimate responsibility for what goes out the door rests with the product manager. But it's often not even as easy as that, as there may also be systemic constraints on product management. I think people have identified enough screw-ups with these releases over the past while that it would be reasonable to infer some kind of systemic problem in Adobe with priorities, systems and resources devoted to quality assurance. Not being anything near an insider I have no idea about the details of what these problems (if so) may be, but looking from the outside in, these considerations would appear plausible.

All that said, our immediate priority is that whatever it takes to get this fixed, it should be done, and done soon. Then there should finally be some head-scratching to assure more reliable outcomes for future upgrades.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: rdonson on July 03, 2016, 07:26:56 pm
Supposedly, the feedback forum is monitored by many Adobe employees ... though if you hope to influence change ... it seems to take a significant number of complaints to get management to take notice and at least attempt to address concerns.

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_photoshop_lightroom (https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_photoshop_lightroom)

and there is a thread on the topic already:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-2015-6-printing-broken-on-mac-os-10-11-5?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all&topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bpage%5D=1#reply_17008748 (https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-2015-6-printing-broken-on-mac-os-10-11-5?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all&topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bpage%5D=1#reply_17008748)

Thanks, Butch!!!  Its nice to know there's a place where we can get their "ear"
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: pflower on July 04, 2016, 12:12:48 pm
I have only just come across this thread.  I also am suffering from this and couldn't work out what was going on.

However I found the direct link to previous versions and tried to download 2015.5 - the download file was called setup.dmg.  Clicking on that didn't upgrade - I just got an error message saying the the upgrade had failed. 

Can someone give me detailed instructions as to how to install the previous version?

thanks

Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 04, 2016, 03:42:34 pm
Anyone tried to make a SlideShow in CC 2015.6? I have a mere 40 images. I ask LR to preview the slideshow. It's been half an hour now and It's all they way up to slide #9 (Preparing Sideshow dialog). This is insane! LR5 would do this in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Doyle Yoder on July 04, 2016, 03:42:44 pm
If you haven't seen this mentioned in other forums, and your using Canon iPF printer, selecting "Fast Graphic Process" will allow you to print correctly with the latest versions of LR. And with PS if your printing through the printer driver, but I would assume most people with Canon printer would be using the plugin.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Mac Mahon on July 04, 2016, 06:31:22 pm

However I found the direct link to previous versions and tried to download 2015.5 - the download file was called setup.dmg.  Clicking on that didn't upgrade - I just got an error message saying the the upgrade had failed. 

Can someone give me detailed instructions as to how to install the previous version?


The setup.dmg updates CC2015 to 2015.5.1. 

You need to throw away 2015.6 first.
Download and install CC2015
Then run the setup.dmg app.

I used this link (http://prodesigntools.com/adobe-cc-2015-updates-links-mac.html#lightroom).

Cheers

Tim
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: DaveRichardson on July 04, 2016, 06:51:22 pm
Anyone tried to make a SlideShow in CC 2015.6? I have a mere 40 images. I ask LR to preview the slideshow. It's been half an hour now and It's all they way up to slide #9 (Preparing Sideshow dialog). This is insane! LR5 would do this in a few minutes.

Just tried this Andrew on two collections - the first a collection of 88 PSDs  ; the second a mix of 362 RAW and TIFFs ; both took less than 2 seconds to prepare preview and start showing the slides. This is on a Windows 10 PC with 64GB RAM

Dave
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 04, 2016, 08:05:11 pm
Anyone tried to make a SlideShow in CC 2015.6? I have a mere 40 images. I ask LR to preview the slideshow. It's been half an hour now and It's all they way up to slide #9 (Preparing Sideshow dialog). This is insane! LR5 would do this in a few minutes.
OK, I think it's a bug and it goes real, real slow if and only if the setting for the slideshow is set to Zoom to fill Frame check box. I actually don't want that on thankfully.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: pflower on July 05, 2016, 04:53:36 am
I had all kinds of problems including this one with the Slideshow with CC 2015.5 on an iMac.  After about an hour with an Adobe support guy, it turned out to be a problem with permissions - some had been turned to read only instead of read and write.  I can't remember now which had to be re-set but somewhere out there on the internet I remember reading a piece which identified the specific folders that needed to be changed but I can't locate it at the moment.  I would suggest that you have a look at the disk permissions that are likely to affect LR.



Anyone tried to make a SlideShow in CC 2015.6? I have a mere 40 images. I ask LR to preview the slideshow. It's been half an hour now and It's all they way up to slide #9 (Preparing Sideshow dialog). This is insane! LR5 would do this in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: DaveRichardson on July 05, 2016, 05:20:15 am
OK, I think it's a bug and it goes real, real slow if and only if the setting for the slideshow is set to Zoom to fill Frame check box. I actually don't want that on thankfully.

Hi Andrew - I repeated the test on the same collections as before (the first 88 PSDs an the other 362 mixed RAW and TIFF) but with Zoom to Fill frame ticked. Still took less than 2 seconds to start showing the slides. As I said before this is on a Windows PC.

Dave
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Rand47 on July 05, 2016, 12:22:19 pm
Just tried this Andrew on two collections - the first a collection of 88 PSDs  ; the second a mix of 362 RAW and TIFFs ; both took less than 2 seconds to prepare preview and start showing the slides. This is on a Windows 10 PC with 64GB RAM

Dave

Same here, W10, 32 gigs, i7
I added music, put in background image, hit "play" and in about 3 seconds it started.

Rand
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: digitaldog on July 05, 2016, 01:19:16 pm
Hi Andrew - I repeated the test on the same collections as before (the first 88 PSDs an the other 362 mixed RAW and TIFF) but with Zoom to Fill frame ticked. Still took less than 2 seconds to start showing the slides. As I said before this is on a Windows PC.
I'm running Mac OS so maybe that's it. Anyway, check box off, much better.
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: Box Brownie on July 08, 2016, 11:51:24 am
Though I have yet to update, this last update and the issue as noted above thankfully does not affect me as Windows 7 here....................fingers crossed there is not some other obscure 'bug' lurking for W7 users to discover!  ;)
Title: Re: Lightroom CC 2015.6 now available
Post by: adias on July 08, 2016, 01:42:58 pm
2015.6CC on OS X 10.11.5 and no issues in generating slideshows. I do not have face detection or address lookup running as those stop all in their tracks. Yesterday I clicked accidentally the Face Detection 'People' (O) icon and the face detection started and tool over the machine, until I realized what happened. It would be great if that People icon could be hidden (as others are).