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Title: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 04, 2016, 11:46:46 pm
I just selected a handful of jpegs and did a right click and got a list of open  options with CC 2015, and CS5, but not Camera Raw. I think in the past I used to see camera Raw there.

My goal is just to do a small exposure tweak on a group of jpegs without it increasing the file size or name of the files. Possible? Thanks.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: alfin on May 05, 2016, 06:07:38 am
If you have set ACR preferences jpeg handling to 'Automatically open all supported JPEGs', the jpeg file will open in ACR when you open them in PS.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: langier on May 05, 2016, 08:24:23 am
I think you can also open the folder in "Bridge" then select them all to open in ACR.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 05, 2016, 11:02:43 pm
Thanks L, yes Bridge, forgot about that! And people poo poo Bridge, we still need it!
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: digitaldog on May 06, 2016, 10:24:00 am
If you have set ACR preferences jpeg handling to 'Automatically open all supported JPEGs', the jpeg file will open in ACR when you open them in PS.


This IMHO there is a bug! IF you select the ACR preference to open JPEGs or TIFFs in ACR, it does this. IF you select one JPEG. If you select more than one JPEG, it will not allow you to pick Camera Raw from the format dropdown. It should, opening all the JPEGs into ACR's thumbnails.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 06, 2016, 03:18:19 pm
Andrew, I don't think I set that actually, as normally I want to open in PS.

This started because in the Mac finder there is no right click open in ACR, so this is a good time to ask, why isn't that there? Why do I have to go to Bridge?
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: digitaldog on May 06, 2016, 03:26:44 pm
Andrew, I don't think I set that actually, as normally I want to open in PS.
This started because in the Mac finder there is no right click open in ACR, so this is a good time to ask, why isn't that there? Why do I have to go to Bridge?
Something isn't kosher here and I've reported this to Adobe and await a reply.
Someone on Windows confirmed that Photoshop when properly set, will open multiple JPEG's into ACR. Doesn't work for me on Mac. It does with Bridge so I'm trying to figure out why PS and Bridge don't operate the same; they should. Also, some JPEGs do show, in the Format dropdown: Camera Raw. IF I open them with the preferences set to do so, they do open in ACR. But other JPEG's do not, they show JPEG instead of Camera Raw in the format dropdown. Keep in mind, the preference shows "Automatically open JPEGs with settings" and it's the 'settings' part that gives me the idea that if previously edited in ACR or LR, it will open again in ACR if preference's are set. But here's the odd part, if I make a new, virgin JPEG, it doesn't show Camera Raw in the dropdown and will not open in ACR. Someone on Windows did the same test, it DID open in ACR. Also, if I use the Open in ACR setting in Bridge on this new JPEG, it opens in ACR as it should. So again, I think there's a bug here on Mac.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 06, 2016, 04:26:07 pm
Thanks Andrew, it is a bug or maybe it does not exist yet. Bottom line, on Mac in finder, where I open word, excel files etc., there is a folder of jpegs. Weather whole folder or individual jpegs — to open in ACR, you need Bridge as we speak. Right? Pity. Yeah, odd that you right click and ACR is not there, but it's there in Bridge.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: digitaldog on May 06, 2016, 05:44:10 pm
Weather whole folder or individual jpegs — to open in ACR, you need Bridge as we speak. Right?
Not if the JPEG's have been edited in ACR/LR previously which is really odd. IOW, when I use the Open dialog, IF I see Camera Raw listed instead of JPEG (indicating the JPEGs have been 'touched' by ACR/LR), select both and open, I get both in ACR. IF when I use the Open dialog I see JPEG listed, they both open in Photoshop proper. This isn't what the fellow using Windows reported. He states that no matter what he does, even if the JPEG is just created from PS, all JPEGs open in ACR when the preference is set to do so. That makes me think there's a bug or issue on Mac OS.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: elliot_n on May 06, 2016, 09:00:00 pm
I'm on a mac. With PS Camera Raw preferences set to 'Automatically open all supported jpegs' I can select a bunch of virgin jpegs in the finder, drag them on to the PS dock icon, and they will all open in ACR.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: digitaldog on May 06, 2016, 09:01:23 pm
I'm on a mac. With PS Camera Raw preferences set to 'Automatically open all supported jpegs' I can select a bunch of virgin jpegs in the finder, drag them on to the PS dock icon, and they will all open in ACR.
Odd, I'll have to wait on Adobe then to see if there's something amiss with my setup. Thanks.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: elliot_n on May 06, 2016, 09:10:53 pm
I'm not up to date. OSX 10.9.5 and CS6.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 06, 2016, 10:17:03 pm
Elliot, I'm not testing that because I prefer pjegs to open in preview generally. 90% of the time I'm not editing jpegs I just want a quick preview in preview. I drop them on Photoshop to open in Photoshop when the need arises. There is no such thing as a ACR app to drop them on so I right click, open with,  but ACR is not there. I think I just got the reply... "ACR is a PS plugin, hosted by PS or Bridge.  It is not an independent program that you can select in Finder."
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: elliot_n on May 07, 2016, 08:06:58 am
Elliot, I'm not testing that because I prefer jpegs to open in preview generally.

You're welcome not to test it, but it does what you asked for in your original post, and jpegs will still open in Preview when you double-click them. On my system, this is the easiest way to edit a bunch of jpegs or tiffs in ACR.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 07, 2016, 05:19:13 pm
Thanks Elliot, good point, I'll keep this in mind. Actually, sometimes, I drag jpegs into PS, and I'm not sure I always want ACR to be the opener for them.. but, maybe I should change my mindset on that? Why do you always want your jpegs to open in ACR?
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: elliot_n on May 07, 2016, 07:26:50 pm
I mostly DON'T want my jpegs to open in ACR. I want them to open in PS. But a couple of times of year I have to batch some jpegs through ACR - then I switch PS's Camera Raw preferences from 'Automatically open JPEGs with settings' to 'Automatically open all supported JPEGs'.  After dragging my chosen jpegs onto the PS icon in the dock, and processing them in ACR, I'll try to remember to switch back the PS Camera Raw preferences so that the next jpegs I process open up in PS and not ACR.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: digitaldog on May 07, 2016, 07:29:25 pm
I mostly DON'T want my jpegs to open in ACR. I want them to open in PS. But a couple of times of year I have to batch some jpegs through ACR - then I switch PS's Camera Raw preferences from 'Automatically open JPEGs with settings' to 'Automatically open all supported JPEGs'. 
Assuming you're on a modern version of Photoshop, perhaps ACR as a filter?
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: elliot_n on May 07, 2016, 07:38:07 pm
I'm on an ancient version of Photoshop - CS6. But I'm very comfortable doing it the way I've described.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 07, 2016, 08:37:47 pm
Thanks Elliot:

And then from ACR,  you use the Save image Button on the bottom left, and save to a new folder? That is new to me, I've always clicked Done on lower right, and just overwritten the jpegs, which is probably stupid. But if you are on anything other than jpegs, Tiffs, Raws, then Done is ok, correct?

Rodney, I just got on board CC, how does the filter work? It's quicker/ easier than Elliot's method?
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: digitaldog on May 08, 2016, 01:11:31 pm
Rodney, I just got on board CC, how does the filter work? It's quicker/ easier than Elliot's method?
It will only operate on one image at a time, however, you do not need to futz with the ACR preferences (on and off). For the occasional image you wish to edit that's currently open in PS, you access this from the Filter Menu. And you can do this with documents other than TIFF or JPEG of course and on individual layers.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 08, 2016, 03:15:32 pm
Thanks Andrew, will notate and test thanks. I think that is very new, very CC? And for folders you agree, at some point in the Mac finder one should be able to select a group of jpegs and right click, choose ACR to open, which currently is not there — which only Bridge can do.. if I have that right....
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: digitaldog on May 08, 2016, 03:22:13 pm
And for folders you agree, at some point in the Mac finder one should be able to select a group of jpegs and right click, choose ACR to open, which currently is not there — which only Bridge can do.. if I have that right....
I haven't heard back from Adobe so I'm not sure what's up, but other's have reported that they can open multiple JPEGs into ACR on Mac. I can't. Only those that have some metadata indicating they were edited in the past from Lightroom.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 08, 2016, 03:37:53 pm
I can't either, but hopefully that will be offered down the road, is that an Adobe or Mac OS thing?.. A guess Adobe... I'll try to remember to keep and eye out for it!
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: Pete Berry on May 12, 2016, 03:00:59 am
To open the occasional non-RAW file from PS6 into ACR or a series from a folder, I use the File > "Open as" utility which opens a browsing window with an enormous number of "open as" file type choices at the bottom, including Camera RAW. Both the folder you choose and the intended file type choice are "sticky" for subsequent images in the session, as are the ACR settings, so it's much faster for a series of non-raw shots under the same lighting conditions if they need WB or other global corrections - eg the 10MB .BMP 4K frame captures I'm doing more and more.

Pete
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: digitaldog on May 12, 2016, 10:02:23 am
To open the occasional non-RAW file from PS6 into ACR or a series from a folder, I use the File > "Open as" utility which opens a browsing window with an enormous number of "open as" file type choices at the bottom, including Camera RAW. Both the folder you choose and the intended file type choice are "sticky" for subsequent images in the session, as are the ACR settings, so it's much faster for a series of non-raw shots under the same lighting conditions if they need WB or other global corrections - eg the 10MB .BMP 4K frame captures I'm doing more and more.
Indeed and that works on this end too. The issue is, you can only open one JPEG at a time this way. If you select more than one, hoping all will open in ACR, nada; you get the JPEGs in PS proper. Not what the OP wants.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: Pete Berry on May 12, 2016, 01:17:00 pm
Indeed and that works on this end too. The issue is, you can only open one JPEG at a time this way. If you select more than one, hoping all will open in ACR, nada; you get the JPEGs in PS proper. Not what the OP wants.

True, once the image is in PS, the "open as" utility won't work. But for us kludges who eschew CC and LR, cling to PS6, and prefer their own file structure to Bridge, this seems the only option, that's really little hassle. Two clicks in PS (File > Open As) and you're back to your folder to select the next image.

Pete
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 12, 2016, 02:02:22 pm
Pete, I think I understood some of that. The problem we are discussing is that on Mac finder, right click jpeg there is no ACR open with option.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: Pete Berry on May 12, 2016, 03:11:55 pm
Pete, I think I understood some of that. The problem we are discussing is that on Mac finder, right click jpeg there is no ACR open with option.

You have to start in PS, with no images open in it that you want to put in ACR. Go to "File" on the PS top bar, select "Open As" which opens a browsing window, open your folder and select your first image which appears in "File name" at the bottom. Then in "Open As" under file name, select Camera RAW" in the long drop-down of file types, and your image opens in ACR. When done, and back in PS6, for the next images do the same File>Open As routine, but your folder will be open and Camera RAW remains selected, so just click on your next image - just three quick clicks after the first image for subsequent ones.

This is how it works in PS6, but maybe not in CC...

Pete
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 12, 2016, 03:22:04 pm
I went from CS5 to CC, but issue is opening direct from the finder, not PS, so as the OP of this thread, I hope that is clear somehow. But if not that's ok.
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: Pete Berry on May 12, 2016, 03:38:18 pm
I went from CS5 to CC, but issue is opening direct from the finder, not PS, so as the OP of this thread, I hope that is clear somehow. But if not that's ok.

Yes, that was clear to me from the start, but with the various solutions and problems, I was just mentioning a pretty simple way of opening files into ACR through PS that some may not have been aware of...I really didn't mean to hijack the thread or offend you.

Pete
Title: Re: How do I open a folder of jpegs in camera raw?
Post by: kevs on May 12, 2016, 03:54:05 pm
Don't worry Pete, but opening ACR from PS is easy I think. The snag seems to be in the Mac finder.