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Title: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 09, 2016, 07:54:22 am
Is there some way to use LR for extended periods without being connected to the internet?

Dave
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Paul2660 on March 09, 2016, 08:02:31 am
Is there some way to use LR for extended periods without being connected to the internet?

Dave

Great question. I have wondered how this would work also. As once away from an Internet connection CC products can no longer check for authentication.   I have assumed that Adobe will allow continued use of a license in the field or in remote locations but have never tried it.

Paul C
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 09, 2016, 08:19:19 am
It's supposed to be OK for 4 months - or rather one month plus 99 days from the moment you authorised it online. See this page (https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/internet-connection-creative-cloud-apps.html?PID=2159997), and remember the AdobeCare Twitter account (https://twitter.com/AdobeCare) which is a good way to contact someone who can authorise the software for longer periods. But as Paul says, you never know for sure until you try it.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: chez on March 09, 2016, 08:23:00 am
I believe the software checks for valid subscription once every month. If it can't verify a valid subscription ( can't connect to the Internet ) you are warned and given a 7 day grace period if your subscription is paid monthly and a grace period of 99 days if you pay annually.

So in theory you could be away from the Internet for about 4 months if you pay annually for the subscription.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Paul2660 on March 09, 2016, 10:14:45 am
Ok,

Here is where my issue happens.  I have 6 machines running with CC right now 3 laptops, and 3 PC.  I can only have 2 machines active at a time, which I understand. 

If you take out a laptop, that was not on CC (signed in) and get into the field, where CC can't make it's phone home, but you left 2 other machines signed on, what happens? 

In the field CC can't reach out to even check to see how many machines are currently logged on, so will it allow that 3rd machine to work? or should I remember to log on to the PC (for field use) before I leave?

Paul C
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: digitaldog on March 09, 2016, 10:20:00 am
If you take out a laptop, that was not on CC (signed in) and get into the field, where CC can't make it's phone home, but you left 2 other machines signed on, what happens? 
Those other machines can run, the one in the field might not. Maps and Develop module disabled; other modules should still run.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Paul2660 on March 09, 2016, 11:13:07 am
So I guess the solution is to sign off from all machines before a long trip where you will need CC products for an extended period of time, and sign on with the laptop you know you will have with you?

Thanks
Paul C
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Rick Popham on March 09, 2016, 02:03:34 pm
So I guess the solution is to sign off from all machines before a long trip where you will need CC products for an extended period of time, and sign on with the laptop you know you will have with you?

Thanks
Paul C

This won't work with any of the other subscription-ware, but you could set up a different Adobe account, buy LR 6 perpetual, install it on the laptop, activate it and no longer worry about it. You won't have access to "Dehaze", if that matters to you, because that was added as a subscription feature.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Rendezvous on March 09, 2016, 09:37:55 pm
Is it possible to get a brief connection using your phone as a hotspot? I realise this might not be the case for many people.

The library module and import still works I believe, just not the develop module.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 10, 2016, 03:50:59 am
Is it possible to get a brief connection using your phone as a hotspot? I realise this might not be the case for many people.

The library module and import still works I believe, just not the develop module.

As Andrew said, everything works except you can't go into Develop (Quick Develop is OK) or use Map.

I'm no fan of these authorisations, but this 4 month window seems pretty reasonable for the overwhelming majority of people. If you are an exception, just think of contacting Adobe Care on Twitter as another preparation for wherever you're going, like getting inoculations or taking diarrhoea tablets.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 10, 2016, 04:07:55 pm
To add more info to my question.

This is not the CC version of Lightroom but the standalone version. It tries to check every time I launch the program even if only minutes apart. I want to use it on a laptop that never connects to the Internet. I bought this program and have registered it but it seems I need to keep confirming that things are OK. Doesn't seem OK to me.

As a test, I blocked Adobe contacts and the program "INSISTED" I register it after a month.

Dave
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Denis de Gannes on March 10, 2016, 04:26:10 pm
To add more info to my question.

This is not the CC version of Lightroom but the standalone version. It tries to check every time I launch the program even if only minutes apart. I want to use it on a laptop that never connects to the Internet. I bought this program and have registered it but it seems I need to keep confirming that things are OK. Doesn't seem OK to me.

As a test, I blocked Adobe contacts and the program "INSISTED" I register it after a month.

Dave

The stand alone version also requires that you have an internet connection and an Adobe Account to Activate and Register the application. If you do not "Sign out" to close Lightroom then your product will remain activated.
To wit "Sign in" is to activate "Sign Out" will deactivate and you will have to have connection via internet and your Adobe Account to activate it again. You are allowed to have two activated installations.
If you wish to close Lightroom after use use the Lightroom Menu bar to "quit" See the screen captures.

 
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Rick Popham on March 10, 2016, 06:31:15 pm
To add more info to my question.

This is not the CC version of Lightroom but the standalone version. It tries to check every time I launch the program even if only minutes apart. I want to use it on a laptop that never connects to the Internet. I bought this program and have registered it but it seems I need to keep confirming that things are OK. Doesn't seem OK to me.

As a test, I blocked Adobe contacts and the program "INSISTED" I register it after a month.

Dave

As Denis said, you do have to activate and register when you first install the program. (Back in the pre-CC days, LR never needed to be activated.) After that LR will try to access the internet to check for updates and generally clog things up while it's doing that.  You can turn that off in preferences.  After all that, the stand alone version shouldn't need an internet connection. 
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 11, 2016, 06:34:25 pm
I must be missing something as I see no sign-in or sign-out anywhere in Lightroom. I have "check for upgrades" not chosen and I use the Quit menu item to close LR and still I get the demand to allow me to let LR link to Adobe and macromedia etc whenever I launch.

Dave
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: rdonson on March 11, 2016, 08:14:58 pm
Use the Creative Cloud app
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Rick on March 12, 2016, 05:14:26 am
I must be missing something as I see no sign-in or sign-out anywhere in Lightroom. I have "check for upgrades" not chosen and I use the Quit menu item to close LR and still I get the demand to allow me to let LR link to Adobe and macromedia etc whenever I launch.

Dave

David, do you also have a subscription to CC on the same Adobe account?  LR 6 won't coexist with a subscription, rather it will install as LR CC if there is a subscription on the account when it's activated.

( Rick Popham -- for some reason I lost my identity when I posted this )
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 12, 2016, 09:30:10 am
No subscription now or in the past.

Dave
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Rick Popham on March 12, 2016, 12:53:14 pm
I'm stumped.  Sorry.  Have you tried to get help on the Adobe Forum?
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: rdonson on March 12, 2016, 12:59:41 pm
No subscription now or in the past.

Dave

It sounds like the registration with Adobe had issues.  Have you signed into Adobe.com to view/verify the products you own?
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 12, 2016, 01:08:52 pm
Have but will do again.

Dave
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Rhossydd on March 12, 2016, 01:52:01 pm
I must be missing something as I see no sign-in or sign-out anywhere in Lightroom.
It hides in the help menu; Manage my Account....
Sign in with your adobe id* and you won't get any further nags unitl the next update/grade when things get reset.

*that's NOT the same as a CC subscription BTW.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 12, 2016, 03:10:54 pm
Sadly it shows that I am signed in and it still insists on Internet contact. I have posted the question in the Adobe forums and have no answers or suggestions as yet.

Dave
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Rhossydd on March 12, 2016, 03:19:39 pm
Sorry, works fine on two different W7 systems here.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 12, 2016, 03:20:11 pm
So precisely what happens when you start Lr? What message does it display?
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 12, 2016, 03:44:27 pm
These messages are generated by LittleSnitch on a Mac.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 12, 2016, 03:45:30 pm
I have done somehting wrong as the pictures show up as downloads.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 13, 2016, 09:39:51 am
Does any of this (https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1595504?start=0&tstart=0) help?
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 13, 2016, 10:30:02 am
Your link was interesting but my problem isn't that I cannot connect but that Lightroom wants to make me connect each and every time I launch the program. I want to be able to use the program on a machine that would be totally isolated from the Internet after the initial registration.

Dave
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Rhossydd on March 13, 2016, 10:45:18 am
Lightroom wants to make me connect each and every time I launch the program.
The screenshots you've posted aren't from Lightroom, but just indicate that LR is checking if there's a connection.
If you actually are having a problem with Lightroom not working, please post Lightroom's error message, then people might be able to help more.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 13, 2016, 10:52:02 am
No the screen shots are from a program called Little Snitch that can block outgoing messages. But if I block the messages Adobe wants to send, the program then stops working.

So if I use a non-connected machine to use the program (legally etc) the program will not work beyond a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 13, 2016, 11:31:50 am
Try letting them through once, then blocking them. What happens?
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 13, 2016, 12:27:06 pm
Continues to want to contact Adobe and program won't work in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 13, 2016, 01:55:21 pm
Clutching at straws.... Try zapping the preference file, and restarting the Mac before you start Lr again.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 13, 2016, 03:50:24 pm
Ah the straws get thinner and thinner. No joy with getting rid of preferences. I must be missing getting rid of something. Updates checking turned off.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 13, 2016, 04:13:34 pm
Then get in contact with the AdobeCare Twitter account and show them those screenshots.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 13, 2016, 04:34:13 pm
Will dl.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: BAB on March 13, 2016, 08:42:18 pm
Your not told that you have to login you just have to know it. The Adobe engineers won't put a sign Road Ends but they won't let you drive off the cliff either they just won't tell you to login, I think that's funny to them but frustrating to everyone else until you spend three hours once then you know the drill! On another note
why can't they FRIKING give us our choice of colors in paths? Try patching gray on gray!
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 14, 2016, 11:28:14 am
But if I do not allow the communications, the program refuses to run after about two or so weeks so I do have to allow the communications even if I do not actively have to do anything.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: Denis de Gannes on March 14, 2016, 11:51:20 am
But if I do not allow the communications, the program refuses to run after about two or so weeks so I do have to allow the communications even if I do not actively have to do anything.

It appears then that if you are connected to the internet and you specifically block Adobe from checking they deactivate the software?
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 14, 2016, 11:56:32 am
It appears then that if you are connected to the internet and you specifically block Adobe from checking they deactivate the software?

Maybe that is so, and it would be easy to test. David did say "I want to use it on a laptop that never connects to the Internet."
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 14, 2016, 02:45:00 pm
It isn't that I specifically want to block Adobe communications but these communications occur each and every time I launch the program. I have tried (as a test) launching and quitting a dozen times and they constantly occur weather I allow them or block them. This is the stand alone program fully registered and I want to use it on a machine that will have no internet connections.

Frankly I fail to see why Adobe needs these communications each and every time and further, I have no idea what is being sent to them which isn't my idea of "OK" these days.
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: john beardsworth on March 14, 2016, 03:18:25 pm
So right now, if the computer has no internet connection, Lr currently works? But in two weeks' time it won't? And during those two weeks, is the computer connected to the internet but has those calls blocked? Or is it completely offline?
Title: Re: Using LR without internet
Post by: David S on March 14, 2016, 03:57:43 pm
I have given up blocking the connections so it isn't a current issue. I want to move the program to another computer that won't be connected to the Internet after the initial registration of the move to the other machine.