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Equipment & Techniques => Mirrorless Cameras => Topic started by: Paul2660 on January 15, 2016, 10:07:09 am

Title: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Paul2660 on January 15, 2016, 10:07:09 am
I did not think this lens was coming for a while, but it's also on B&H.  1.9K US   Will have to wait for the next round of rebates in the fall!!  Hope to see LuLa review this also as it really completes the package for Fuji if it's as good as the 50-140.

Big day for Fuji for sure.   I wonder if this lens will work with the Fuji 1.4 TC?  That would get interesting for sure.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1210897-REG/fujifilm_16501109_xf_100_400mm_f_4_5_5_6_r.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1210897-REG/fujifilm_16501109_xf_100_400mm_f_4_5_5_6_r.html)

Paul C
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: rdonson on January 15, 2016, 10:38:23 am
Fuji's announcement says it works just fine with the Fuji 1.4 teleconverter.

Now I've got to wipe the drool from my chin and figure out how I'm going to afford one of these.   ;D
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Paul2660 on January 15, 2016, 10:45:44 am
I missed that, good news.  Will have to wait to see if Fuji does the same thing as last fall, and give the instant rebates on various lenses.

Paul C
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Alan Smallbone on January 15, 2016, 11:38:14 am
It is also available for preorder through B&H. $1900, and the 1.4x is additional. Nice that it has a small port you can open on the lens hood to rotate a polarizer, much like the 50-140mm. This is the lens I have wanted for since they put it on the road map.

The update to the XE-2 will be nice, Fuji is good about updating their cameras with new features.

Alan
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: rdonson on January 15, 2016, 12:00:26 pm
I can't wait for the new X-Pro2 tech to appear in an update for the X-T1 (X-T2?)
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: mbaginy on January 15, 2016, 02:10:02 pm
I wish the 100-400 had an aperture ring and built-in lens shade.  Looks like a nice lens though, will need to take a close look at it once my dealer gets one in stock.
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Paul2660 on January 15, 2016, 07:44:59 pm
I thought the first ring was the aperture ring but it's not numbered as some of the Fuji lenses are.

The 2nd ring (largest) is zoom and the smallest ring towards the end is focus.

As I recall Fuji X lenses all have a manual aperture adjustment but not all the aperture rings have numbers on them. But I may have this wrong.

Paul C

Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: rdonson on January 15, 2016, 08:41:57 pm
Not sure you could number an aperture ring on a zoom lens where the aperture varies from f/4.5-5.6
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Paul2660 on January 16, 2016, 01:13:05 pm
It's a beast however at just a bit over 3 pounds.

Paul C
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: armand on January 16, 2016, 05:18:14 pm
I also have the Tamron 150-600 which is almost 2 kg (and rarely use it because of this) so in comparison this one is almost light  ;D
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: rdonson on January 16, 2016, 05:21:41 pm
It's lighter than the Canon 100-400 f/45.-5.6  ;D  Yes, I know that's a FF lens.

Some comparisons

Fuji 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 WR  - APS-C
Cost:     $1899.95
Weight:  1375g/3.03 lb
Length:  211mm/8.29"
Filter:     77mm (fixed error)

Canon 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 WR  - FF
Cost:     $2099.00
Weight:  1570g/3.46 lb
Length:  193mm/7.6"
Filter:     77mm

Panasonic 100-400 f/4.0-6.3 WR  - M43
Cost:      $1799.99
Weight:   985g/2.17lb
Length:   172mm/6.75"
Filter:      72mm

Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: armand on January 16, 2016, 11:04:30 pm
I wonder how it's lighter than the Canon as per your specs it is longer and has a bigger front element.
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: mbaginy on January 17, 2016, 02:44:23 am
Ron, Paul - I guess the 100-400 has a similar aperture ring such as the 18-55/2.8-4.  What I prefer is a numbered aperture ring; don't care for reading the aperture only in the viewfinder (or the rear monitor).  I traded that (light) 18-55 for the (damned heavy) 16-55/2.8 solely because of the numbered aperture ring.
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: rdonson on January 17, 2016, 11:18:32 am
Mike, I like numbered aperture rings as well but only my Fuji prime lenses have that.  My zooms with varying apertures don't and I can't see how they could.   
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: mbaginy on January 17, 2016, 01:31:20 pm
...zooms with varying apertures don't and I can't see how they could.
Yes Ron, good point about the varying aperture.  But in analog days, many zooms were also equipped with such apertures - at a certain focal length, the widest aperture switched.  That's not a design feature of the more modern digital photography days.
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Paul2660 on January 18, 2016, 01:31:03 pm
Hi Mike,

I agree on your point, as the ring on the 16-55, does give you a lot more control, i.e. you don't have to be looking in the EVF all the time among other reasons.  Same with the 50-140. 

I also agree, once you use the 16-55, it's hard to go back to the 18-55.  The 16-55, really is an excellent optic, even wide open. (night work)

Paul C
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: rdonson on January 18, 2016, 03:27:56 pm
Hmmm.... I don't see the 16-55 ($1200) or the 50-140 ($1600) happening for me in the same year I'm looking forward to an X-T2 and maybe the 100-400.   :(
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Paul2660 on January 18, 2016, 04:23:13 pm
I agree it's a lot for sure.  I took advantage of the 200.00 savings on the 50-140 in December. Fujibhad some great deals.

Paul C
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: armand on January 18, 2016, 05:25:41 pm
How do you cope with the extra weight? The reviews I've seen didn't give much increase in optical quality vs the 18-55 at the expense of much more weight and lack of OIS.

The 50-140 seems quite big also also although if you need the plus 90 mm range and F 2.8 you have no other options.
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Paul2660 on January 18, 2016, 06:02:06 pm
I agree the extra weight has to be taken into consideration.

But the fixed f 2.8 is quite a benefit to the 16-55 and I found it sharper overall than my 18-55 which I thought was a good lens.

Paul
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: mbaginy on January 19, 2016, 01:49:58 am
I agree the extra weight has to be taken into consideration.
But the fixed f 2.8 is quite a benefit to the 16-55 and I found it sharper overall than my 18-55 which I thought was a good lens.
I agree about the weight and the IQ.  I've come to shoot ,ostly primes with my Fujis.  Wonderful iamge Quality!  I very seldom use the 16-55; it probably constitutes a wasted investment for me.
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Alan Smallbone on January 19, 2016, 02:08:05 pm
It's lighter than the Canon 100-400 f/45.-5.6  ;D  Yes, I know that's a FF lens.

Some comparisons

Fuji 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 WR  - APS-C
Cost:     $1899.95
Weight:  1375g/3.03 lb
Length:  211mm/8.29"
Filter:     82mm

Canon 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 WR  - FF
Cost:     $2099.00
Weight:  1570g/3.46 lb
Length:  193mm/7.6"
Filter:     77mm

Panasonic 100-400 f/4.0-6.3 WR  - M43
Cost:      $1799.99
Weight:   985g/2.17lb
Length:   172mm/6.75"
Filter:      72mm

I think the actual Fuji specs say the outside is 77mm, so that is good for me. I have one on "pre-order" at Lensrentals so I can give it a whirl once they become available.

Alan
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Rand47 on January 19, 2016, 02:20:46 pm
... I have one on "pre-order" at Lensrentals so I can give it a whirl once they become available.

Alan

Alan,

We'll be very interested to have your impressions and some sample images posted!  Be sure to follow up if you would be so kind.
Thanks!

Rand
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Petrus on January 19, 2016, 02:53:40 pm
But the fixed f 2.8 is quite a benefit to the 16-55
Paul

I find it quite funny that fixed aperture for zooms is considered a good thing and more "professional", while the fact is that (in very simple theory) a f/2.8 16-55mm lens could with proper design be a f/0.8-2.8 variable aperture zoom. I would definitely prefer that!
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Telecaster on January 19, 2016, 03:12:30 pm
…the fact is that (in very simple theory) a f/2.8 16-55mm lens could with proper design be a f/0.8-2.8 variable aperture zoom.

Hah! I've thought about this too. Give me access to that extra light even if the lens performs "poorly" at such apertures.  :)

-Dave-
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: rdonson on January 19, 2016, 08:17:11 pm
I think the actual Fuji specs say the outside is 77mm, so that is good for me. I have one on "pre-order" at Lensrentals so I can give it a whirl once they become available.

Alan

You're correct.  Sorry 'bout that.  When I originally looked the Fuji global page wouldn't come up and DPReview had that spec wrong.
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: Alan Smallbone on January 20, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
Alan,

We'll be very interested to have your impressions and some sample images posted!  Be sure to follow up if you would be so kind.
Thanks!

Rand

Sure no problem, have no idea when it will happen, they do not have an availability date, Amazon is saying middle of Feb. we will see.

Alan
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: armand on January 20, 2016, 04:02:41 pm
This will make sense more than the other zooms outside of the 10-24 as it provides a range inaccessible by other zooms or primes.

A kit like 10-24 F4(or 14 F2.8), 16 F1.4, 23 F1.4, 35 F1.4, 56 F1.2 (or 60 F2.4), 90 F2 and 100-400 F4.5-5.6 will cover an impressive range with good to excellent quality and great light gathering capability. It wouldn't be that heavy either.

PS. as it happens I have all the above lenses outside of 100-400
Title: Re: Fuji 100-400 also announced
Post by: rdonson on January 20, 2016, 06:46:21 pm
Lucky dog!   ;D