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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: shadowblade on January 12, 2016, 01:48:04 pm

Title: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: shadowblade on January 12, 2016, 01:48:04 pm
The changing colours of a bamboo grove at sunrise at Arashiyama, on the outskirts of Kyoto, Japan. Wet from overnight rain, the rocky path creates a subtle reflection of the forest and sky above.

I personally prefer the green one, taken about 20 minutes after the first, when the sun had fully risen. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: sdwilsonsct on January 12, 2016, 02:12:16 pm
Any thoughts?

Amazing hyper-realism, as usual!
Focus-stacked??
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 12, 2016, 02:12:53 pm
#1 for me.

#3 would be a good illustration for a Fukushima article ;)
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: shadowblade on January 12, 2016, 02:43:16 pm
Amazing hyper-realism, as usual!
Focus-stacked??

24mm tilt-shift lens, shifted and stitched, so no need to focus-stack - everything was in focus anyway.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: polaris-14 on January 12, 2016, 02:55:14 pm
#1 for me, #3 is a little bit too much for my taste. But this place is so beautiful.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: shadowblade on January 12, 2016, 03:06:52 pm
#1 for me, #3 is a little bit too much for my taste. But this place is so beautiful.

It's hard to judge saturation on my monitor - everything looks undersaturated in Photoshop and oversaturated in browser, despite the system being colour-calibrated and the browser supposedly being colour-aware. Is it just a saturation issue?
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: sarrasani on January 12, 2016, 03:15:39 pm
spectacular and well done.
Sandro
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: MattBurt on January 12, 2016, 04:21:16 pm
Beautiful scene and great photos. I prefer #1!
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: Jens Peermann on January 12, 2016, 08:11:04 pm
I prefer the first one, the second one is still ok. The green on the third one somehow does not belong, to my eye. Personal preference.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: shadowblade on January 12, 2016, 08:28:47 pm
I prefer the first one, the second one is still ok. The green on the third one somehow does not belong, to my eye. Personal preference.

Interesting, since, in neutral lighting, the grove is definitely green - doubly so after it's been raining.

Google link here (http://www.google.com.au/search?q=arashiyama+bamboo+grove&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGxrj_0KXKAhVBrZQKHXgqAjsQ_AUICg)
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 12, 2016, 09:16:20 pm
Interesting, since, in neutral lighting, the grove is definitely green...

It is not about the grove being green, but the type of green - neon, especially visible around the patch of sky and in the far background trees.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: James Clark on January 12, 2016, 09:47:44 pm
Beautiful location.  I'm partial to #1, but I can see how 3 could work.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on January 13, 2016, 04:38:47 am
Fantastic.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: Dale Villeponteaux on January 13, 2016, 09:28:46 am
Astounded to see bamboo that big. I had no idea it could grow to that size.

Regards,
Dale
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: Bob_B on January 13, 2016, 10:24:53 am
#1 for me too. Great composition and use of light. I echo the comments of others' about the neon green in #3: too much for my eyes.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: shadowblade on January 13, 2016, 06:08:08 pm
Darkened the green tones on the third one - how does it work now?

Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: polaris-14 on January 13, 2016, 07:07:13 pm
Slobodan made a really good point. It's rather neon-ey
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: shadowblade on January 13, 2016, 07:23:39 pm
Slobodan made a really good point. It's rather neon-ey

Is it the hue, saturation or brightness of the green? I've already had to tone it way down from the in-camera version. Thin, semi-transparent green leaves filtering bright, subtropical light seem to make for very green tones.

Although, in Photoshop, it looks a fair bit more yellowish and less saturated.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: polaris-14 on January 13, 2016, 07:40:26 pm
I would play with the saturation and luminance. Burning that area little bit might help, too. Another thing is the green cast on the "aisle" makes it a little weird to me.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 13, 2016, 08:10:22 pm
... in Photoshop, it looks a fair bit more yellowish and less saturated.

I think it matters more how it prints. Would probably need a careful selection of printer/paper/process to get just the right balance.
Title: Re: Bamboo grove at sunrise - Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan
Post by: shadowblade on January 13, 2016, 08:15:30 pm
I would play with the saturation and luminance. Burning that area little bit might help, too. Another thing is the green cast on the "aisle" makes it a little weird to me.

It looks green in Firefox, but more yellowish (with a slight green tint) in Photoshop.

I never know which one to believe, since I don't know what other people are seeing on their computers.

Darkening the green highlights just turns it into a dark, dim forest, which it certainly wasn't - there was a lot of light coming through the canopy. Reducing the saturation does much the same. Warming the green areas by applying a yellow filter seems to make it look much less green, but doesn't really reflect how it actually looked after the sun came up.

Just doing a quick Google search, a lot of photos of Arashiyama seem equally green when placed side-by-side - much more cool-toned than a typical Australian or North American forest, or even a north Asian/Scandinavian coniferous forest. More towards the cyan end of the spectrum rather than the yellow end. Perhaps it's a case of unfamiliar places looking alien rather than the camera lying.