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Site & Board Matters => About This Site => Topic started by: tsjanik on December 22, 2015, 09:39:43 pm
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Wonderful idea and topic Kevin. I look forward to all your (that's plural) observations.
Tom
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Hi Kevin or Chris
This is a little off-topic....could you please let me know the print-hanging system seen in the background?
Not so much the part on the wall and the cables, but rather the parts attached to the print itself.
Many thanks
William
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This is a little off-topic....could you please let me know the print-hanging system seen in the background?
Not so much the part on the wall and the cables, but rather the parts attached to the print itself.
I'm neither Kev or Chris (but I'm still up). The hanging system is something Kev designed. The holders are wood with magnets inset into the wood to clamp the print. Not sure about the track hanging system...I think he bought it on line. It's somewhat a standard system...as he mentioned in the video, he's going to be offering the system for sale on LuLa sometime next year.
Also, LuLa will be offering a variety of products–some specially built for LuLa as well as LuLa swag (tee shirts, caps, mugs etc.). Stay tuned...gonna be fun as the Energizer Bunny (Kevin–that's what I call him because he purely wears me out) starts tweaking the LuLa web site!
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The most iportant point in this topic is: This time, what shirt will Jeff choose ?
Anything else ?
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I'm neither Kev or Chris (but I'm still up). The hanging system is something Kev designed. The holders are wood with magnets inset into the wood to clamp the print. Not sure about the track hanging system...I think he bought it on line. It's somewhat a standard system...as he mentioned in the video, he's going to be offering the system for sale on LuLa sometime next year.
Also, LuLa will be offering a variety of products–some specially built for LuLa as well as LuLa swag (tee shirts, caps, mugs etc.). Stay tuned...gonna be fun as the Energizer Bunny (Kevin–that's what I call him because he purely wears me out) starts tweaking the LuLa web site!
Thanks Jeff - I already have a similar track hanging system - it was the "magnets-in-the-wood" that I was interested in. Many thanks!
William
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"Back to the print" should certainly involve some discussion of storing and displaying. A quick hanging system is certainly a great idea, but at even 1 print/week, it's not going to be enough. I've just bought an A3+ (that's 13x19 for the 'muricans :-) ) album, and it's a joy to be able to leaf through 20 prints so much more easily than pulling them out of a box. The maker claims I can fit a total of 30 sleeves, 60 photos... with 10 in so far, I reckon 15 will be the max. Oh well.
I don't think anything other than hanging is viable for A2 however...
Looking forward to the pro1000 review, although it looks like Canon have stuck with their page-length restriction. It seems idiotic to me, maybe if they were trying to send business towards the IPF series, but they aren't upgrading the IPF5100 either. Please apply pressure to their marketing people.
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I look forward to the finished video(s). I'm enjoying my P800 and the results I'm getting but was a little chagrined by the release of the Canon Pro1000 as it looks quite good on paper. I look forward to the comparisons.
Count me as someone also interested in Kevin's print hanging system.
Like Graham I also hope for discussion on storing and displaying prints.
Thanks and keep up the great work!!!
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Could you do a comparison with canvas on both printers. Mostly concerned with detail in the shadows on canvas, as well as overall punch and vibrancy of the colors. Thanks,
Gar
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I'm not sure canvas can be run through the Canon printer. Most canvas I have ever used is on a roll. I have Epson Canvas plus a roll feeder so we will report on Canvas on the P800. As far as the Canon goes, we'll have to investigate. As far as most types of printing goes the prints look good from both printers. You'd be pressed to tell a difference. Mark Segal will be doing some deep readings and measurements and we'll see what his results are.
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I'm looking forward to your re-emphasis of the print. Please don't ignore options on how to mount a print for display or sale.
Cheers,
Chris Butler
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Does anyone else see an irony in making a video about going back to the print?
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I don't think anything other than hanging is viable for A2 however...
I'm waiting impatiently for a 30x30x1.5-inch 220ppi wide gamut display that I can hang on a wall. Affordable, of course.
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Chris, funny you say that. I was shown some displays like what you mention. However the word affordable was not in the spec sheet. When we are free from embargo which isn't until next year we will say something about them for those that may have a desire.
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I was shown some displays like what you mention. However the word affordable was not in the spec sheet. When we are free from embargo which isn't until next year we will say something about them for those that may have a desire.
I'm looking forward to your report. While they may be very expensive at first, over time I would expect these to follow a price trajectory similar to other flat-panel monitors.
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The hanging system is something Kev designed. The holders are wood with magnets inset into the wood to clamp the print.
I too am interested in the hanging system. Wondering is there is a layer of glass or some other barrier in front of the print. In the photo there seems to be a bit of glare, but that could be the print surface.
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There is no glass, just the print. Email me with a request include size and quantity. As I mentioned in the video we will have the available on the Luminous-Landscape site next year when the e-commerce section is complete.
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Hi Kevin or Chris
This is a little off-topic....could you please let me know the print-hanging system seen in the background?
Not so much the part on the wall and the cables, but rather the parts attached to the print itself.
Many thanks
William
For some time now I've been looking for ways to display prints without glass. I understand the importance of glass for print longevity and frames for durability, but I always find glass to be a barrier to the real "print experience". I specifically choose Moab Entrada Rag Natural for its gorgeous feel and look and hate to see it "hidden" behind glass.
So, seeing the print hanging system in the "Indy Office" was very helpful. I know LuLa will be carrying this system in the coming months, but FYI you can order similar systems here:
- • www.wearewellmade.com/shop/stiicks (wood)
- • www.posterhanger.com (aluminium)
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@Terry, thanks for those links to hanging solutions. Both are pretty affordable when you consider how much it would cost to mat and frame a print. This is a nice home solution since one can always reprint images as needed and there would less concern about surface damage here.
Alan
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You needn't got nuts spending money. If you're not going to use glass, you can just use spray mount to nail the print down on some foam core. Then trim the foam core to provide a suitable "mat".
What I do then is glue two small pieces of scrap wood of equal thickness on the back. The upper one is simply rested on a nail driven into the wall. By placing the upper wood scrap quite horizontally and centered, you can slide the print back and forth a little until it hangs straight. The lower wood scrap becomes a standoff, so the whole thing stands out from the wall by whatever thickness the wood scraps are.
For a different look, I first glue down decorative paper strips with torn edges, on the "mat" area and then glue the print down over that. This creates a pleasingly "rough" look to that faux mat.
Total cost for these systems is low single digits, and they're quite easy to build. Much easier than cutting mats.
Of course they're not designed for decades of use, but in this age of digital I figure I can just dash off a new print any time I like, so, whatever. If you're not using glass, I think you're already on that page?
Edit: you can also cut the foam core slightly smaller than the print, to float the bare print off the wall.
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Some pictures for clarification:
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Yes, Kevin, canvas can be run through the Canon pro 1000. Since you have a Epson rep in Dano working on this project, perhaps you can ask him if he can supply some Epson Canvas Exhibition matte for comparison between the two printers. Thanks,
Gar
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What happened to the Epson P800 and Canon Pro 1000 comparison? Any time soon?
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What happened to the Epson P800 and Canon Pro 1000 comparison? Any time soon?
As far as I know, there was NOT never be a head to head comparison...there was only gonna be a Canon Pro 1000 review (you can then draw your own conclusion with the P800).
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Well, there was a video showing both printers in the same office and all of you looking at prints from both printers. This lead me to believe that there was a head to head comparison. If not, how soon for the canon review?
Gar
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Our Canon review has been slowed down a bit due to a major illness of the author working on the review. We'll do our best to get in completed as soon as possible.
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Our Canon review has been slowed down a bit due to a major illness of the author working on the review.
I think I know what you're talking about, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that...
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Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery to the author.
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Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery to the author.
I'd like to join Andrew in expressing my best wishes and hopes for a speedy recovery.
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I'm waiting for this tutorial since December. is the only reason I come every day on luminous website, hope you guys finish soon.
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Hello,
in the hope that the author is back to a good health, I would like to know, if there are any news concerning this review on the Canon printer ( and the other one, for sure ).
Best wishes
Robert
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Our author is back home and has been working on the review. I'd expect to see it early March. We are both very impressed by the printer. The review will be very detailed and you then can do a look at the previous P800 review and get a good comparison. I have made images with both and you would be hard pressed to tell any difference. Please wait just a bit longer. We are sorry for the delay in this but my friend was real sick. I am running a workshop in Iceland for the next 2 weeks and articles are in the system. March and April will have a ton of interesting things for our readers. That's the update on this review for now.
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Thank you all for your good wishes. My recovery is progressing.
The review is nearing completion, and as Kevin says above, we hope to publish within the first half of March.
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I'm not sure canvas can be run through the Canon printer. Most canvas I have ever used is on a roll. I have Epson Canvas plus a roll feeder so we will report on Canvas on the P800. As far as the Canon goes, we'll have to investigate. As far as most types of printing goes the prints look good from both printers. You'd be pressed to tell a difference. Mark Segal will be doing some deep readings and measurements and we'll see what his results are.
The Pro 1000 supports both Canvas (in "Canonese": "fabric that has the look of canvas"), registered on the printer as "Canvas", as well as Japanese Paper Washi. I shall not be covering either of these media in the review as I have no experience working with them in any printer.
I'll be amplifying considerably on what Kevin says here (and I largely agree) about how the prints look from various printers and papers. It's been a fascinating trip through the status of contemporary inkjet printing - one learns certain things of comparative value with data and measurements, but perhaps more importantly, just looking at the photographs. You'll see both perspectives represented in the review. I'll leave it that for now, here.
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Best wishes Mark and thank you for the information you supply.
Tom
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Much appreciated Tom. Thanks.
Mark
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As far as I know, there was NOT never be a head to head comparison...there was only gonna be a Canon Pro 1000 review (you can then draw your own conclusion with the P800).
That was talked about but (my) thinking has evolved. As an author you would appreciate how, when one gets into stuff, ideas about what's pertinent and useful to the readers can evolve. While I don't intend to prolong a "sneak-preview" discussion of the forthcoming review, let me just say that it does include comparisons that I think will respond to what is of greatest interest to our readers in a user-friendly way, as well as constructively demonstrate some key points about where we stand today with contemporary inkjet printing technology as exemplified by these two new entrants to the market and one venerable, well-established one. The 17-inch carriage niche is a very important one and the fact that it has become more competitive is in our best interest as consumers of these products. What makes it more interesting - and fun - is that there is no clear-cut, hands-down "winner". People contemplating a purchase will need to think carefully about the various differing attributes of each of these printers and decide for themselves which features and performance factors constitute the determinative variables in respect to their own preferences and requirements. That is a matter I do not get into, but I do provide the food for thought. Let me just conclude by saying they all make excellent prints - but there will be more to the story than that.