Luminous Landscape Forum
The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Chairman Bill on October 20, 2015, 01:09:31 pm
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I've traded my Nikon 24-120 f4 VR (great on my D700, a bit dodgy on the D800) for a Zeiss T* 2.8/25mm ZF.2
I fear this might be the start of a love affair with Zeiss lenses. It could prove painful (to my wallet). I must be good. I must be good. I must be good. I must be good. (sorry, new money-saving mantra kicking in)
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I've traded my Nikon 24-120 f4 VR (great on my D700, a bit dodgy on the D800) for a Zeiss T* 2.8/25mm ZF.2
I fear this might be the start of a love affair with Zeiss lenses. It could prove painful (to my wallet). I must be good. I must be good. I must be good. I must be good. (sorry, new money-saving mantra kicking in)
and what the reson for the other person to trade his/her Zeiss T* 2.8/25mm ZF.2 for 24-120 ?
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They traded their Zeiss against a new lens in the store, and I traded my Nikon for the Zeiss.
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Chairman Bill,
I've traded my Nikon 24-120 f4 VR...for a Zeiss T* 2.8/25mm ZF.2
What will you do for a focal length of 24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119 and 120mm?
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Chairman Bill,
What will you do for a focal length of 24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119 and 120mm?
With luck, he'll abandon zooms altogether.
FWIW, I think that one camera with one lens is the best way to leave home. Unless you're a pro with the need to mess around with different things on the same part of a shoot, the discipline of the unitary selection does wonders for the psyche and, in consequence, the final images...
Rob C
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I manage quite well in the mountains with just the X100s and its 23mm fixed lens. It's quite nice to wander with just the 50mm on my D800. I'm going to enjoy wandering around with the 25mm, too. With a single focal length, it's not that I take fewer photographs, it's that I take different photographs. Apart from my old 18-35mm (which might end up going in part-exchange for another Zeiss at some point), it's now all prime lenses.
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Chairman Bill,
With a single focal length, it's not that I take fewer photographs, it's that I take different photographs.
In what non-trivial way are they different?
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Chairman Bill,
In what non-trivial way are they different?
Can't speak for Bill, but in my own case it saves the trouble of trying to decide which way to tackle something: you simply do what you know is possible and work that as far and as well as you can. There's nothing worse than standing looking and wondering: what focal length should I be using?
That's why I have distilled my own M.O. down to the single camera/lens combo. Apart from the reality of age and weight and convenience. Yep, I don't have a heap of physical strength left upon which to draw; but don't forget: it comes to us all, and one may as well get into good habits when there's still the choice.
Rob C
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With luck, he'll abandon zooms altogether.
FWIW, I think that one camera with one lens is the best way to leave home. Unless you're a pro with the need to mess around with different things on the same part of a shoot, the discipline of the unitary selection does wonders for the psyche and, in consequence, the final images...
Rob C
Agreed. I do this a lot. As well as being free to walk further, climb higher without feeling like a pack horse, it makes me think a little longer about the composition.
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What will you do for a focal length of 24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119 and 120mm?
Did you write that by hand?
I'd love to know how it feels to have so much free time. ;)
Cheers,
Bernard
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Bernard,
I'd love to know how it feels to have so much free time.
Learn to type quicker?
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Chairman Bill,
What will you do for a focal length of 24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119 and 120mm?
Use your feet to move your body either forward or backwards till you can get a decent composition. if you can't do that then cropping afterwards is possible. If that isn't possible then curse the day you made the decision to buy a prime lens. :)
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stamper,
Use your feet to move your body either forward or backwards till you can get a decent composition.
Changing location changes perspective.
...if you can't do that then cropping afterwards is possible.
Cropping will not be possible if the prime lens focal length is too long.
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stamper,
Changing location changes perspective.
Cropping will not be possible if the prime lens focal length is too long.
Do you then think that Bill made a big mistake?
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stamper,
Do you then think that Bill made a big mistake?
It is not for me to judge Bill's purchase decisions.
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I doubt that 25mm is going to be too long, too often
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stamper,
It is not for me to judge Bill's purchase decisions.
In Reply# 3 you did question the merits of the purchase of the lens?
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I've traded my Nikon 24-120 f4 VR (great on my D700, a bit dodgy on the D800) for a Zeiss T* 2.8/25mm ZF.2
I fear this might be the start of a love affair with Zeiss lenses. It could prove painful (to my wallet). I must be good. I must be good. I must be good. I must be good. (sorry, new money-saving mantra kicking in)
I have the same set up of Bill's - the NikonD700 & 24-120 f4 VR lens - which I last used on Saturday. A nice compromise imo between long and wide. Personally I wouldn't have swapped. I have a Samyang 24mm 1.4 so the best of both worlds is to have both the zoom and the prime. :)
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Yes, but the 24-120 performs less well on the D800, which is why decided to sell it & get a prime lens. I was going to go for the new Nikon 24mm f1.8, but the Zeiss was there, and a deal to be done that saved me money on selling the zoom and buying the new Nikon 24mm
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stamper,
In Reply# 3 you did question the merits of the purchase of the lens?
No.
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Yes, but the 24-120 performs less well on the D800, which is why decided to sell it & get a prime lens. I was going to go for the new Nikon 24mm f1.8, but the Zeiss was there, and a deal to be done that saved me money on selling the zoom and buying the new Nikon 24mm
Is it the resolution of the D800 the problem?
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Can't speak for Bill, but in my own case it saves the trouble of trying to decide which way to tackle something: you simply do what you know is possible and work that as far and as well as you can. There's nothing worse than standing looking and wondering: what focal length should I be using?
Interesting, I never felt that problem. In fact I always have as standard one camera body on a 24-70 and another on a 70-200 lens. I view the scene and decide what to frame and then I take the lens/body combo that fits the various compositions. That's for landscapes and I could never live with a single prime lens for that.
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Is it the resolution of the D800 the problem?
I think that's what it is. On the D700, files looked nice & sharp. On the D800, far less so. I've not had much chance to shoot the Zeiss yet, but did fire off a few 'frames' yesterday (handheld), and sharpness doesn't seem to be a problem at all. I'm hoping to get out this weekend & test it more thoroughly.
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You should have got the Zeiss 25 f2 :)
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yes, Zeiss lenses are dangerously appealing if you are the manual focus sort (I am). I have one, the 21mm f/2.8. I still don't have a normal zoom.
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yes, Zeiss lenses are dangerously appealing if you are the manual focus sort (I am). I have one, the 21mm f/2.8. I still don't have a normal zoom.
Maybe... I used to have a 180mm Sekkor on a Mamiya TLR body before I could afford a 150mm for my 'blad 500 Series. When I could, and bought, I was disappointed in several ways. The Sekkor seemed sweeter, in some odd way that I can't really articulate, and a better length for heads, which was why I bought both of the lenses. 'blad didn't have a 180mm then... The Sonnar was very prone to flair if the sun dared get near it. But that was decades ago, so maybe things have changed a lot chez Zeiss.
Rob C
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You should have got the Zeiss 25 f2 :)
Indeed. If I had the extra few hundred quid, I would. I haven't, so I haven't. But when I have, I probably will.