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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: william on October 07, 2015, 08:47:14 am
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So I was reading an article in Variety (don't ask) and the following sentence jumped out at me:
"The pilot is set to begin lensing in New York City next week."
"Lensing"? Did I miss when that became a thing? I understand that, etymologically, "filming" is no longer technically accurate and "shooting" might be rejected as having violent connotations. But "lensing"? I really hope that this is derived from the word for capturing images in some sexy language rather than just a random new word someone made up....
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<tongue in cheek modus on>
I prefer to call a lens: "objective". Therefore, the correct word would not be "lensing" but "objectifying". Now, if the subject is a female model, we could say that the photographer objectifies women.
<tongue in cheek modus off>
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Never heard the term lensing. But I like objectifying! In fact I've been told I already do that! ;)
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Very Hollywood! Not just "lensing" but "lensman" for the person who does it. I remember making fun of this usage long ago buy suggesting that we coin "lenspersons" as well.
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May I suggest
reading inspecting scrutinizing lettering something better?
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Simple
When: Lensman <=> Photographer
Therefore: Lensing <=> Photographing
Don’t take these things too serious, right?
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Hi,
I would say, objectively speaking, that "lensing" implies less physical damage to the subject than "shooting".
Best regards
Erik
Simple
When: Lensman <=> Photographer
Therefore: Lensing <=> Photographing
Don’t take these things too serious, right?
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I would say, objectively speaking, that "lensing" implies less physical damage to the subject than "shooting".
Agree, but lensing is silly because it's the photons that make the image and we do not even need a lens for that, a pinhole will do.
Pinholing? Sounds too much like something NSFW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_safe_for_work) to me. ;)
Just a plain silly attempt at trying to be fashionably creative, like most Instagram hipsters.
Cheers,
Bart
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So I was reading an article in Variety (don't ask) and the following sentence jumped out at me:
"The pilot is set to begin lensing in New York City next week."
"Lensing"? Did I miss when that became a thing? I understand that, etymologically, "filming" is no longer technically accurate and "shooting" might be rejected as having violent connotations. But "lensing"? I really hope that this is derived from the word for capturing images in some sexy language rather than just a random new word someone made up....
This usage is standard industry reporting jargon. Been in use for at least 30 years and has nothing to do with digital. Another wonderful phrase is that the talent "emotes" rather than performs.
Edmund
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Referring to actors as "talent" is another example of the same industry jargon. Makes clear how much filmmaking is a producer/director-centric endeavor.
-Dave-
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This usage is standard industry reporting jargon. Been in use for at least 30 years and has nothing to do with digital. Another wonderful phrase is that the talent "emotes" rather than performs.
Edmund
True, this. But a I have never heard the term used outside of the motion picture world (am I wrong about this? Do some refer to "lensing a still shoot"?) I wonder, How does it relate to medium format?
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Variety does seem to create its own language:
http://variety.com/static-pages/slanguage-dictionary/
lense — to film a motion picture; “The project will lense in Rome and New York.”
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Variety does seem to create its own language:
http://variety.com/static-pages/slanguage-dictionary/
lense — to film a motion picture; “The project will lense in Rome and New York.”
Ah, so it's an invented slang verb, "to lense". What's wrong with 'Photography'? Not hip enough? Too ambiguous?
Thank goodness it has little to do with a "lens" (usually a transparent optical element that focuses rays of light), or an "objective" (a composite system of multiple lens elements nearest the object being viewed). At least that's what I've been taught.
Cheers,
Bart
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Ah, so it's an invented slang verb, "to lense". What's wrong with 'Photography'? Not hip enough? Too ambiguous?
Thank goodness it has little to do with a "lens" (usually a transparent optical element that focuses rays of light), or an "objective" (a composite system of multiple lens elements nearest the object being viewed). At least that's what I've been taught.
Cheers,
Bart
The english verb is "to film". But for me lense conjures up an image of an eye (http://invertebrates.si.edu/giant_squid/page4.html) ...
(http://invertebrates.si.edu/giant_squid/images/giantsquideye.jpg)
Edmund
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The english verb is "to film". But for me lense conjures up an image of an eye (http://invertebrates.si.edu/giant_squid/page4.html) ...
Nice picture. But not all 'eyes' have lenses. Some have facets, others only detect light and dark and little detail. A lens is a means to focus. BTW, it's formally lens, not lense.
Photography, still means "writing with light" (from the Greek: photos (http://www.english-for-students.com/photo.html)=light, graphein (http://www.english-for-students.com/graph.html)=to write), and there is nothing wrong with that.
Cheers,
Bart
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Hi,
I guess that the producer/director lacks talent so they hope the person acting in front of the cameras has some?
Best regards
Erik
Referring to actors as "talent" is another example of the same industry jargon. Makes clear how much filmmaking is a producer/director-centric endeavor.
-Dave-
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Bart,
..."objective" (a composite system of multiple lens elements nearest the object being viewed)...
Several months ago I noticed that objective seems to be common parlance when discussing scopes (http://uk.swarovskioptik.com/nature/atx-stx-eyepiece-module-c21020102/65mm-objective-module-p5006348).
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Bart,
Several months ago I noticed that objective seems to be common parlance when discussing scopes (http://uk.swarovskioptik.com/nature/atx-stx-eyepiece-module-c21020102/65mm-objective-module-p5006348).
Can imagine they do, it also allows to differentiate between an objective and an ocular (the eye piece at the eye side of the lens composite).
Cheers,
Bart
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Several months ago I noticed that objective seems to be common parlance when discussing scopes (http://uk.swarovskioptik.com/nature/atx-stx-eyepiece-module-c21020102/65mm-objective-module-p5006348).
Then, I thought that a "scope" was this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Oscilloscope.jpg)
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The english verb is "to film". But for me lense conjures up ...
Edmund
And here, I suspect, is the source of the verb "to lens." When people started making movies without film being involved, the verb "to film," structly speaking, no longer described what was happening. You can still say "shoot," but that has other issues, and "to photograph" has never been used very much for motion picture work, even though the phrase "principal photography" or even just "photography" as a noun has been a regular part of the lexicon. Take film out of the process, and it becomes a linguistic muddle. "Sensoring" just doesn't have the right ring. "Rolling" is archaic. "Turning over" is even more archaic. "Filming" -- well, we've talked about that. "Recording" only really works for videotape, and that is scarcer than film these days. The only thing all the photographing devices have in common are lenses. So it turns out "lensing" has some appeal.
Pedantry has its price. :)
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The term is VERY old.
I'm more familiar with this term when people refer to which cinematographer is shooting a film.
For example:
- "Roger Deakins Lensing Blade Runner 2"
- "Pitt starred in the Deakins-lensed The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford"
- “Villeneuve has once again delivered an impeccably well-crafted film, not least in Deakins’ arresting lensing.”)
You get the point.
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Ah, no discussion is complete without its antique lovers :)
Edmund
Then, I thought that a "scope" was this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Oscilloscope.jpg)
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I welcome the the verb, at least it shows an appreciation that the lens is more important than the camera.
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I welcome the the verb, at least it shows an appreciation that the lens is more important than the camera.
Aye, I eye your opinion with interest. :)
Cameras don't shoot people, people shoot people :)
Edmund
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I've seen it used a lot in on fashion blogs and magazines: "<model> lensed by <photographer>"
I think it is a silly term because it is both unnecessary and sounds inaccurate since lensing conjures up telescoping or digiscoping rather than actually recording/capturing anything.
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Some of you need to get out more, lol. Just sayin'
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Some of you need to get out more, lol. Just sayin'
LOL! 8)
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Some of you need to get out more, lol. Just sayin'
Get off my lawn!
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Get off my lawn!
Don't worry, I left my camera at home so you won't have to worry about being lensed, LOL. BTW, lovely furniture ;)
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eronald, so, whose eyeball is that in the glass jar? Whale?
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eronald, so, whose eyeball is that in the glass jar? Whale?
Nancy,
I think it is a Smithsonian Architeuthis sample. Mesonychoteuthis would, I expect, be substantially larger, here are some lenses:
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/sci_nat_enl_1209550267/img/laun.jpg)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7374297.stm
Scary beasts :)
Edmund