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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: Michael West on August 04, 2015, 11:00:24 pm
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The new EcoTank printers cost more up front but can churn for years without running dry
http://www.wsj.com/articles/review-epson-kills-the-printer-ink-cartridge-1438683871
There was no word in the article about the possibility that this feature be used throughout the epson catalog of printers. but we can hope
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That is what I like about my Epson 9900: 750 ml carts!
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Epson appears to have recognized the environmental cost of tiny ink carts. Good on 'em. I'm more than willing to pay upfront for a printer that avoids the inexcusable use of tiny carts. Unfortunately, I'm in the minority. These units have apparently been so-so sellers in other markets, despite the money savings in the long run.
For day-to-day colour prints, these printers make sense. Yes, I know they're only four-colour printers, but I believe for many uses they'll probably be good enough. Remember the Epson 1160? I still have excellent prints from those decade-old printers and they were CMYK only.
The bad news is they're letter-sized only and it appears that on all but the most expensive ET4500, (US$ 1200) the inks are dyes, not pigments. It remains to be seen how long-lived these dye prints are.
Thanks, Epson, for bringing these printers to the North American market. I'll be among the first in line.
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Third party sellers have had continuous inking systems (CIS's) for years. The Epson response has been in some more competitive non-US markets for quite a while.
Note that the inks appear to be dyes. Pigment settling would be a problem otherwise. With the third party CIS approach you can agitate the bottles separately. I'm not sure if the Epson built-in CIS separates for agitation.
It looks like a reasonable response to competition.
Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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Third party sellers have had continuous inking systems (CIS's) for years. The Epson response has been in some more competitive non-US markets for quite a while.
Note that the inks appear to be dyes. Pigment settling would be a problem otherwise. With the third party CIS approach you can agitate the bottles separately. I'm not sure if the Epson built-in CIS separates for agitation.
It looks like a reasonable response to competition.
Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
I got done reading this thread...took out the garbage....and found this in the ""dumpster room" at my apartment building
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Paywall.
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I've owned a half dozen Epson printers over the years, including a POS 9800. I sometimes implemented a continuous inking system on several Epson printer with variable results. I swore that, if Epson ever made a printer that refilled from bottles rather than carts I'd buy it. So I did. From Taiwan. An Epson L-805. It's a six-ink unit that you refill from bottles. (glug, glug, glug) Very satisfying.
Some six years and hundreds of prints later, I have to say it's the most reliable, fun to use, highest image quality desktop printer I've ever owned.
The new Eco Tank printers will make a borderless 13X19. That's big enough for me these days. Anybody want a cheap, barely-used HP Z3200?
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I've owned a half dozen Epson printers over the years, including a POS 9800. I sometimes implemented a continuous inking system on several Epson printer with variable results. I swore that, if Epson ever made a printer that refilled from bottles rather than carts I'd buy it. So I did. From Taiwan. An Epson L-805. It's a six-ink unit that you refill from bottles. (glug, glug, glug) Very satisfying.
Some six years and hundreds of prints later, I have to say it's the most reliable, fun to use, highest image quality desktop printer I've ever owned.
The new Eco Tank printers will make a borderless 13X19. That's big enough for me these days. Anybody want a cheap, barely-used HP Z3200?
theyve come a long ways since the mid 90's when I liven in a nearly completely un insulated second floor apartment where it got so hot the rubber belt...on the epsons I had would snap every few weeks. I
the UPS guy and I became very closer very frequently.. Id give him the old printer to return....hed hand me the NEW replacement...this happened a half dozen times.
I couldnt fault the print quality when they were still working..but with a temperature a tad above 100 degrees inside.....they were over stressed ...m really surpised that epson kept replacing them..