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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Rainer SLP on May 05, 2015, 02:47:02 pm

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Post by: Rainer SLP on May 05, 2015, 02:47:02 pm



¿ Why do you use a title for your photograph ?
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Post by: Iluvmycam on May 05, 2015, 03:04:09 pm
I never did until I started to place them in museums. Then it became a mater of neccisty pretty much.

When you discuss photos and execute deeds of transfer it is very hard when you have 30 photos and they are all called untitled 1, 2, 3, 4 etc.
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Post by: MattNQ on May 05, 2015, 03:08:18 pm
Hmmm.....
For me I think it is because I want to convince myself I am an artist and every great work of art has a title?  :)


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Post by: Rainer SLP on May 05, 2015, 03:12:19 pm
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When you discuss photos and execute deeds of transfer it is very hard when you have 30 photos and they are all called untitled 1, 2, 3, 4 etc.

¿ Why ? You have a system by using Untitled 1, Untitled 2, etc. or even easier just 1,2,3 etc. to know exactly of what photo you are talking about ...

But my question had in reality another background ...

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Post by: Rainer SLP on May 05, 2015, 03:12:52 pm
Hmmm.....
For me I think it is because I want to convince myself I am an artist and every great work of art has a title?  :)


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+1  ;D

Does it ?
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Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 05, 2015, 03:17:16 pm
It compliments the image... or not.
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Post by: MattNQ on May 05, 2015, 03:35:44 pm
+1  ;D

Does it ?
Not always.


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Post by: PeterAit on May 05, 2015, 04:09:46 pm


¿ Why do you use a title for your photograph ?

Good question! Mostly, I suppose, because it is expected. For landscapes, I think viewers like to know what and where the scene is. For other scenes, the tiel may provide information about how the photographer views the image.
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Post by: Rainer SLP on May 05, 2015, 04:24:01 pm
Good question! Mostly, I suppose, because it is expected. For landscapes, I think viewers like to know what and where the scene is. For other scenes, the tiel may provide information about how the photographer views the image.

I like this
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... because it is expected ...
due to lack of imagination of the viewers of an exhibition ? or due to the intention of the artist ¿ whatever genre ? to take the viewer to his point of view ?

What do you prefer ? let the viewer explore his imagination or influence him ?

Arches National Park ...

but the park is 310km² big ... does the title help me ?  ???

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Delicate_arch_sunset.jpg)
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Post by: Colorado David on May 05, 2015, 05:18:51 pm
When you listen to Debussy, La Mer (The Sea in English) do you envision the sea in your mind's eye?  Perhaps you do.  The music is very obviously program music and is very descriptive of the sea, so perhaps you would have made that connection for yourself.  But in this case Claude Debussy took the step of insuring that you understood.  By naming the piece La Mer, Debussy framed the listeners' understanding of the piece far more than if it had been called Symphonic Tone Poem #23.  Perhaps when you name a photograph, you are specifying the lens through which the viewer sees your image.
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Post by: jjj on May 05, 2015, 05:27:53 pm
What do you prefer ? let the viewer explore his imagination or influence him ?

Arches National Park ...

but the park is 310km² big ... does the title help me ?  ???

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Delicate_arch_sunset.jpg)
Maybe it should be titled "Gateway to Dimension Five and Three Quarters" or maybe '2.09 Degrees' - the angle the horizon appears to be off by.  ;D
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Post by: Rainer SLP on May 05, 2015, 05:45:12 pm
When you listen to Debussy, La Mer (The Sea in English) do you envision the sea in your mind's eye?  Perhaps you do.  The music is very obviously program music and is very descriptive of the sea, so perhaps you would have made that connection for yourself.  But in this case Claude Debussy took the step of insuring that you understood.  By naming the piece La Mer, Debussy framed the listeners' understanding of the piece far more than if it had been called Symphonic Tone Poem #23.  Perhaps when you name a photograph, you are specifying the lens through which the viewer sees your image.

OK, interesting example

Unfortunately we do not know if he titled it before or after finishing ... That would be more interesting ...

.. and yes that is true ..

When I hear Vivaldi (most known example) " Four Seasons ", it is obvious that the title steers me to think about the Season of each piece ...

mmmmmmhhh
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Post by: Diego Pigozzo on May 05, 2015, 06:08:17 pm
¿ Why do you use a title for your photograph ?

To enrich the photograph.
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Post by: Rainer SLP on May 05, 2015, 06:16:01 pm
To enrich the photograph.

¿ Sure ?

I have seen amazing photographs going down the gutter due to the title ...

I think, letting a photograph speek to the viewer is more worth then adding a title and force the viewer to the artists opinion ...

... or perhaps the artist chooses a title in order to provoke a shortcut in the viewers brain  ;D see above (gutter)

¿?

¿ What do you prefer ?
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 05, 2015, 06:17:53 pm
I'll jump in here to say that I seldom title my photographs, mainly because I find it difficult to find a useful title that doesn't give too much away. I want the viewer to use his/her imagination , so I don't like to use a title that will slant the interpretation in one direction.

That being said, I do have titles for some of my favorite images, sometimes the name of an object in the scene, or the location, and other times a fanciful, totally irrelevant title intended to make the viewer work a little harder trying to figure it out.
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Post by: pcgpcg on May 05, 2015, 06:21:17 pm
¿ Why do you use a title for your photograph ?
Because I need a way to identify a photo when communicating with clients. If I was not selling photos I would not assign titles.
I use a numbering system (, i.e. 2014 jpeg #23) when submitting a group of photos for copyright registration. I could use the same scheme for marketing as well, but I think a more descriptive title helps to engage potential clients.
The problem for me is that I run out of ideas for assigning titles when I have a group of similar photos. Then I use sort of a tiered naming system, i.e. Snowy Woods - solitude, Snowy Woods - pine cone, etc.

To illustrate how ridiculous this gets, I sometimes go back and change the name because I decide that what I chose previously now sounds inappropriate for whatever reason.   :-\
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Post by: Diego Pigozzo on May 06, 2015, 02:40:11 am
¿ Sure ?

I have seen amazing photographs going down the gutter due to the title ...

I think, letting a photograph speek to the viewer is more worth then adding a title and force the viewer to the artists opinion ...

... or perhaps the artist chooses a title in order to provoke a shortcut in the viewers brain  ;D see above (gutter)

¿?

¿ What do you prefer ?
Yeaph, I'm sure.
While a title can be used for all the things you say, it can also be used to add something to the photo without forcing the viewer in any way.

In the end, a title is just a tool not so different from HDR: it can be uses needlessly, it can abused but it can also be used fruitfully.
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Post by: stamper on May 06, 2015, 03:49:58 am
If you didn't give an image a title then LR and other similar products would be redundant?
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Post by: stamper on May 06, 2015, 03:58:26 am
A witty title can help?

Piping hot.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/99408200@N05/14790785781/
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Post by: Diego Pigozzo on May 06, 2015, 04:06:53 am
A witty title can help?

Piping hot.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/99408200@N05/14790785781/

Can let my dirty mind speaks?  ;D ;D
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Post by: stamper on May 06, 2015, 04:42:45 am
Please do.
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Post by: Diego Pigozzo on May 06, 2015, 04:45:06 am
Please do.
Let's try a telepathy experiment: what I'm thinking?  ;D ;D
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Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 06, 2015, 09:21:36 am
A witty title can help?

Piping hot.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/99408200@N05/14790785781/
Stamper, I'd like to hire you to come up with good titles for all my photos!  ;)