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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Brian Hirschfeld on July 02, 2014, 09:26:48 pm

Title: Hasselblad 503CW TTL Flash and ISO Dial
Post by: Brian Hirschfeld on July 02, 2014, 09:26:48 pm
Hello all,

Today I learned that the ISO dial on the side of my 503CW is used for controlling TTL flash, or at least informing the TTL flash what the ISO setting of the camera is. I assume that this means that somehow the shutterspeed and aperture are being communicated no? I truly don't know how TTL flash works but I was wondering if you guys could help explain it to me on an electronic level since obviously the body isn't powered, so the power is coming from the flash unit (again I assume) and I don't understand where this communication is occurring, I don't know if it matters if I am shooting my 120 CFi, 50mm CFi, or 80mm CF, thanks.

Best,
BH
Title: Re: Hasselblad 503CW TTL Flash and ISO Dial
Post by: Chris Livsey on July 03, 2014, 02:27:35 am
http://www.hasselbladhistorical.eu/pdf/hasmanuals/503cw.pdf

Page 17

Title: Re: Hasselblad 503CW TTL Flash and ISO Dial
Post by: Mike Guilbault on July 03, 2014, 07:31:35 pm
You set the ISO dial to your film, but you can over or underexposed the flash by using the ISO dial. Your ttl flash reads the ISO you set and compensates the output of the flash according to the value you select. Hope that makes sense. I used this method on my 503cx ans 503cw with a Quantum Q-Flash.
Title: Re: Hasselblad 503CW TTL Flash and ISO Dial
Post by: fdisilvestro on July 03, 2014, 07:50:01 pm
The system does not need aperture or shutter speed information, just the ISO. There is a cell inside the body that measures the light reflected from the film during exposure. That information is sent through the SCA module to the flash so it knows when to stop.

It is like the old auto flashes but with the measuring cell inside the camera, this makes it unnecessary to know the aperture, filters, lens transmission, etc.

Title: Re: Hasselblad 503CW TTL Flash and ISO Dial
Post by: Chris Livsey on July 04, 2014, 02:26:03 am
Please read the manual, as linked. No power from the flash or communication from the lens is required.
The system relies on reflection off the film surface. The characteristics of film vary so different emulsions will give different results, you will need to test before relying on the system, as described in the manual.
I have no experience with a digital back on this model with flash but the reflection from a digital sensor is going to be much higher than from film but more consistent perhaps, but easier to test  ;D
Title: Re: Hasselblad 503CW TTL Flash and ISO Dial
Post by: fdisilvestro on July 04, 2014, 03:13:49 am
From the manual you linked:

"The flash unit powers the camera electronic's and also the flash adaptor, when that is used"

The flash adaptor is the SCA module and nobody mentioned communication from the lens.
Title: Re: Hasselblad 503CW TTL Flash and ISO Dial
Post by: Chris Livsey on July 04, 2014, 03:30:42 am

The flash adaptor is the SCA module and nobody mentioned communication from the lens.

Well actually the OP did  ;D

I assume that this means that somehow the shutterspeed and aperture are being communicated no?

and

 I don't understand where this communication is occurring,