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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: semillerimages on June 27, 2014, 03:01:37 am

Title: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: semillerimages on June 27, 2014, 03:01:37 am
Hi all,

I shot this 8 image panoramic tonight and did a small version just to see how it would look (1000 pixel tall images) in photomerge, but when I went to do a full sized version, the last image on the left always comes out on it's own horizontal column and not merged with the rest.
In turn, I downloaded PTGUI to see if it could deal with the files better (from a Nikon D800) and it wouldn't load 16 bit PSD files (even after I checked off that I wanted it to)
Any advice?

*steve
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: mlewis on June 27, 2014, 03:25:10 am
You ill need flattened tiff files to feed into PTGUI.  PSD is an Adobe format so is unlikely to be supported very well in non Adobe software.
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: kirkt on June 27, 2014, 10:27:55 am
This is what PS does when it can't find a match for the image - it puts it in its own little area on the canvas.  PS used to have a window in the photo merge interface where you could manually position your images prior to letting PS go to town merging them - no longer.  You may want to try to perform the merge without the left most image and let PS do the merge automatically, preserving the layers and masks that it creates.

Next, duplicate the merged pano and flatten it.  Working with the flattened duplicate, extend the canvas on the left, where the orphaned image should be merged.  Place the orphaned image roughly where it should be located in the panorama.  Choose both layers (the flattened, merged pano and the orphaned image) and select Edit > Auto-align layers.  Then do a Edit > Auto-blend layers.  You may get an error if the image does not overlap the adjacent image "enough".  If this is the case, try this same approach, but do it with the original pano still in its layered and masked form, and try selecting the orphaned image layer and the layer adjacent to it as the two candidates for Auto-align and Auto-blend.

I see you are using CS5 - I seem to recall that the 32bit version of CS5 still had the manual image placement feature ("interactive layout") in the pano interface ... maybe?  I could be totally wrong here, it has been a while since CS5.

I apologize if CS5 does not have the features I am suggesting here.  My version of CS5.1 Extended does have them (auto-align, auto-blend).  Anyway, maybe this will work for you without having to resort to PTGui.

One of the many features of PTGui is that you can create a merge from your small JPEG renderings, get the stitch perfect, with no errors, etc using small files for fully interactive editing and stitching, and then save that stitch as a template.  You can then open the full-res images (in the same order as the small images) and apply the template - the stitch should be identical, but now at full-res without all of the control point calculations having to be performed on the full-res images.  This saves time and increases the interactivity of the stitching exercise without bogging down your machine.

kirk
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: semillerimages on June 27, 2014, 02:25:59 pm
Thank you! I'll try both suggestions.
I appreciate your time!
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: semillerimages on June 27, 2014, 03:02:13 pm
Kirk, your suggestion worked perfectly! Thank you so much!
I had to manually align the one frame, but the blending was spot on!
Cheers to you!

*steve
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: kirkt on June 27, 2014, 04:27:07 pm
Cool!

kirk
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: John V. on July 07, 2014, 08:11:06 am
Try Microsoft ICE. It's free. Never had any problems with it.

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/ICE/
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: bwana on July 07, 2014, 09:33:36 pm
Try Microsoft ICE. It's free. Never had any problems with it.

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/ICE/


link is 404 (not found)

maybe their servers are temporarily down due to MS layoffs?
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: BernardLanguillier on July 07, 2014, 11:03:35 pm
This image should be easy to deal with using AutoPano Pro from a stitching standpoint.

In case you haven't noticed, your pano also suffers from pretty bad unequal brigtness levels in the sky, which is typically caused by lens light fall off, often resulting from the usage of an aperture too open and/or the usage of an average lens.

Converting your images with DxO will fix this very well, PTgui Pro can also deal with such issues amazingly well (but is less talented than Autopano pro in terms of images matching).

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: Re: Adobe Photomerge strange behavior - CS5
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on July 08, 2014, 04:28:34 am
link is 404 (not found)

Try this:
https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/69699e5a-5c91-4b01-898c-ef012cbb07f7/ (https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/69699e5a-5c91-4b01-898c-ef012cbb07f7/)

Cheers,
Bart