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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: Ellis Vener on January 06, 2014, 12:09:16 pm

Title: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Ellis Vener on January 06, 2014, 12:09:16 pm
Not Kodachrome 25 or 64, Kodachrome X.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: john beardsworth on January 06, 2014, 03:07:27 pm
X-Equals does a set of Lightroom presets (http://x-equals.com/blog/in-memoriam-kodachrome-1935-%E2%80%93-2010/) which they claim simulate Kodachrome. You may want to see if X is included.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: digitaldog on January 06, 2014, 06:22:16 pm
Move the sliders, if you feel it looks like a film type, you're done.  ;D

Lots of people supply products that are said to produce a film look. I've yet to see the rendering they produce with said product next to an actual images shot on film (scanned how?) that match. It's totally subjective. If you feel cranking up Vibrance +5 and Conrast +8 looks like Velvia, call it that if you wish. Until I see a true comparison of that and the film, I remain sceptical but will honor any photographer who feels what he's produced looks like that film.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Ellis Vener on January 06, 2014, 08:06:16 pm
We're not stupid. Of course it is totally subjective, and of course it won't look exactly like Kodachrome X, or 25, or 64 or A, or Velvia,  or Provia, or Lumiere, or any of the other Ektachrome, Fujichrome, Agfachrome variant shot of the same scene. I doubt that if today we could actually shoot and get processed Kodachrome  from the 1930s...1990s it would look like film shot and during those years. Too many things have changed.  And of course it will never look exactly like that piece of film scanned. No matter how good the scanner, no matter how high the skill level of the person making the scan, the scan never looks like the original piece of film (often worse, sometimes better.)

 If you notice the title of my question asked about the  "feel" of those old films not exact duplication. So please, no more straw man arguments.


Films were different from each other, chemical processes were different from each other, and today digital camera systems are different from each other as are digital processing software. High end photography has always been totally subjective - just the same as your vision of what a subject in the real world should look like is going to be different from mine (with the exception of copy work. That should always be as absolutely true to the subject as technically and humanly possible.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Ellis Vener on January 06, 2014, 08:07:03 pm
And John, thanks for the helpful response.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: digitaldog on January 06, 2014, 08:18:22 pm
If you notice the title of my question asked about the  "feel" of those old films not exact duplication. So please, no more straw man arguments.

Tell you what Ellis, I'll move a few sliders in LR, call it Kodachrome X and send it to you. Then you got what you asked for. But don't tell me it doesn't look like what you think it should look like since you yourself said, it's totally subjective. As did I!
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Manoli on January 06, 2014, 08:28:53 pm
Ellis,

Have you tried the eminently 'roll-your-own' Exposure 5 by Alien Skin ?.
Both plug-in and stand alone.

http://www.alienskin.com/exposure/effects.aspx

Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: digitaldog on January 06, 2014, 08:33:33 pm
Google is your friend Ellis

http://www.gettotallyrad.com/lightroom-presets/

http://vsco.co/film

http://www.ononesoftware.com/products/lightroom-presets/?gclid=CL7L5Y_16rsCFa4-Mgoddz0A6A

http://presetpond.com/presets/lightroom/expired-film-presets-pack/

http://www.photographyblog.com/news/reallyniceimages_updates_film_presets_for_lightroom/

And many more. And of course, the match to the film for all is identical and spot on? Maybe just the free ones  :o
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Ellis Vener on January 06, 2014, 10:54:36 pm
Google? Never heard of it.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Ellis Vener on January 06, 2014, 11:58:45 pm
Thanks Bill. I agree with what you say esp about the limited dynamic range and steep contrast curve.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: john beardsworth on January 07, 2014, 03:08:57 am
I hope you saw my "claim to simulate"! I'd generally share Andrew's feeling about these film emulation presets and I would recommend not spending even a penny or a cent on them. Also you are going to learn a lot more by just moving those sliders. But if the x-equals ones help, great, they're free - and you get the idea they created them more for the love of it.

John
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Ellis Vener on January 07, 2014, 09:25:32 am
I hope you saw my "claim to simulate"! I'd generally share Andrew's feeling about these film emulation presets and I would recommend not spending even a penny or a cent on them. Also you are going to learn a lot more by just moving those sliders. But if the x-equals ones help, great, they're free - and you get the idea they created them more for the love of it.

John


Exactly John and thank you.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: digitaldog on January 07, 2014, 10:41:11 am
We're not stupid..
Google? Never heard of it.

 ???
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 07, 2014, 10:42:52 am
Google? Never heard of it.

No problem, just google it! ;)
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Ellis Vener on January 07, 2014, 11:00:18 am
???
Exactly.
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: Ellis Vener on January 07, 2014, 11:01:09 am
No problem, just google it! ;)
;)
Title: Re: any Lightroom /ACR / Capture 1 plug-in that emulates the feel of Kodachrome X?
Post by: PhotoEcosse on January 07, 2014, 11:01:56 am
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 ;)


But if the OP, for whatever reason, wants to play about with faux-film effects, then Nik's AnalogEfexPro plug-in for Lightroom provides almost endless possibilities, even down to adding realistic dust and scratches.