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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: Barry B on July 22, 2013, 09:37:55 am
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Hello All
I'm in the process of moving from Windows Vista PC to an iMac OX.
At the same time I'm also updating Lightroom from version 4 to 5.
Would someone please outline the preferred methodology for this migration.
Thanks in advance!
Barry
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The recommended procedure is to smack yourself on the forehead, upgrade to Windows 7, and enjoy spending the money you saved.
[Said with a grin]
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Hello All
I'm in the process of moving from Windows Vista PC to an iMac OX.
At the same time I'm also updating Lightroom from version 4 to 5.
Would someone please outline the preferred methodology for this migration.
Thanks in advance!
Barry
A friend of mine recently changed platforms. This book really helped him: http://www.amazon.com/Switching-Portable-Genius-Paul-McFedries/dp/0470874406/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374501855&sr=1-9&keywords=Moving+from+PC+to+Mac
I helped him w/ the LR migration. In an abundance of caution, we left LR & its catalog in place on the PC and merely exported the catalog to a portable HDD that was formatted for use w/ iMac and then moved it to the iMac and opened it in his new install of LR. Worked fine.
Having cut my teeth on the original IBM PC, I didn't see any advantage to the Mac. Some things are easier, some positively obtuse. Mostly a "push" IMO. One strong recommendation is to get a "real" mouse with two buttons (minimum) and a wheel. The Mac mouse was horrid, and needing a keystroke to get a right-click was archaic. But at least there are lots of good options as I understand it.
Rand
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The recommended procedure is to smack yourself on the forehead, upgrade to Windows 7, and enjoy spending the money you saved.
[Said with a grin]
LOL
+1
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LOL
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+5
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I'm in the process of moving from Windows Vista PC to an iMac OX.
How would you move your work from one Windows computer to another? It's not that much different. Move your catalogue and your images into exactly the same folder structure as now. Initially you get question marks on the folders, because a Windows folder path is different from a Mac one, so you will also need to point the top level folder.
At the same time I'm also updating Lightroom from version 4 to 5.
Would someone please outline the preferred methodology for this migration.
Move to Mac first. Once you're up and running with LR4 on Mac, then switch to Lr5. Don't confuse the two steps.
John
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Hi Barry,
I've migrated from old Macs to new Macs, but never from Windows. However, when I have questions, I go to the source: the Mac Support site. As it turns out, there is a Windows to Mac Migration Assistant at http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1557?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
Also, have a read of: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2518 (Switch Basics: Migrate your Windows files or system to your Mac) and http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4796?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US (About Windows Migration Assistant).
Hope this helps. I'm sorry about the first few posts which were of decidedly limited usefulness to you. The tone of the LL forum is usually more helpful.
All the best.
PS - John's advice of migrating to Mac first with LR4 in place then upgrading to LR5 once all is working is correct.
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The tone of the LL forum is usually more helpful.
Huh? While I did post with at least part of my tongue in my cheek, I believe that a suggestion that will save someone unneeded expense, time, and hassle is about as helpful as it comes.
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.... The Mac mouse was horrid, and needing a keystroke to get a right-click was archaic...
As is your experience with it, apparently ;)
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... I believe that a suggestion that will save someone unneeded expense, time, and hassle is about as helpful as it comes.
Had he asked for it. But he didn't. He didn't say he is considering moving to Mac, he said he is moving. Smart-ass? Yes. Humorous? Perhaps. Helpful? No.
P.S. To the OP: welcome to the bright side! :)
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Huh? While I did post with at least part of my tongue in my cheek, I believe that a suggestion that will save someone unneeded expense, time, and hassle is about as helpful as it comes.
+10.
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Move to Mac first. Once you're up and running with LR4 on Mac, then switch to Lr5. Don't confuse the two steps.
This is excellent advice, and what I did helping my friend. Since LR5 needs to "upgrade" the catalog, it is better to have one "in place" in LR4 first.
Rand
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As is your experience with it, apparently ;)
I suspect this is only an issue for folk like me (and the OP) who are accustomed to the PC type mouse - and so is relevant, I think. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that most of the "preferences" between PC and Mac are based more in "what one is accustomed to" than any real advantages/disadvantages of the platforms. That's my experience, anyway. Much of the Mac I didn't like, but I also recognized that I didn't like it because it was different, not because it was worse in some way.
The mouse, in my mind, is an exception. LOL
Rand
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What I was saying, Rand, is that I did not understand what you are talking about when you said "needing a keystroke to get a right-click." I've been on Mac since 2005 and my mice (mouses?) always had a right-click. The latest incarnation I am currently using has it as well, plus scrolling, both up-down and left-right, by swiping a finger across the mouse (just like we use it for iPhones and iPads these days). Rather natural movements and no need to clean the wheel periodically.
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Ahem <cough, cough>
https://www.apple.com/uk/magicmouse/ (https://www.apple.com/uk/magicmouse/)
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Ahem <cough, cough>
https://www.apple.com/uk/magicmouse/ (https://www.apple.com/uk/magicmouse/)
I've been doing everything they mention (except the two-finger swipe) for years on my trackball (PC). I've never had a yearning for a "two-finger swipe" or an overpriced i-pad, either.
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Ahem <cough, cough>
https://www.apple.com/uk/magicmouse/ (https://www.apple.com/uk/magicmouse/)
LOL. This is the mouse my friend had. My opinion is that it was very clumsy and imprecise. Perhaps practice would have helped, but my impression was that it would never be as precise as my logitech wheel mouse. To wit; wheel tilts left/right for pan, wheel rolls for scroll, wheel clicks for page down, forward and back buttons under my thumb, left & right click buttons. Very straight forward and not dependent on proper "gestures" (which made me nuts on the "tragic";D mouse).
Rand
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What I was saying, Rand, is that I did not understand what you are talking about when you said "needing a keystroke to get a right-click." I've been on Mac since 2005 and my mice (mouses?) always had a right-click. The latest incarnation I am currently using has it as well, plus scrolling, both up-down and left-right, by swiping a finger across the mouse (just like we use it for iPhones and iPads these days). Rather natural movements and no need to clean the wheel periodically.
Probably my ignorance of Mac "norms" then. I had to hold down a key and click to get the equivalent of a right click in "PC." How does one right-click on the "one button" Mac mouse - I love learning new stuff. Oh, and BTW I've been a PC guy since there was such a thing and have never had to clean a mouse wheel. ;D
Rand
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The recommended procedure is to smack yourself on the forehead, upgrade to Windows 7, and enjoy spending the money you saved.
[Said with a grin]
Thanks for the reply's to everyone (whether tongue in cheek). It wasn't just a case of Adobe not supporting Vista in LR5. My system was becoming so antiquated that my hobby was suffering. This was just the straw to open the wallet!
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Perhaps something like Take Control of Switching to the Mac (link (http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/switching)) could help?
Edit: link corrected
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Barry, be careful not to over think this. Most of what you need to do with Lightroom is the same whenever you're moving from one brand of computer to another. Sensible steps, one at a time.
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Thanks for the reply's to everyone (whether tongue in cheek). It wasn't just a case of Adobe not supporting Vista in LR5. My system was becoming so antiquated that my hobby was suffering. This was just the straw to open the wallet!
Yes, an up-to-date computer makes a photographer's life a lot easier! If you really want the Mac interface, then go for it. Otherwise, consider a new Windows 7 PC. There are plenty of people here who can help you select a blazingly fast system that will cost a lot less than the equivalent Mac.
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I like a bit of tongue in cheek humour from time to time like anyone else - but if you go back and count the number of posts that address the OP's question, you might start to understand why I (and others I know) have drifted away from LL forums as of late.
From time to time there are some excellent posts on LL forums, some excellent photography,some excellent questions posed and some excellent advice given. But really, the poor guy is just trying to get started on a new system and has some honest questions. For those of you generating "slush", try to put his needs ahead of your own need to grand stand.
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Probably my ignorance of Mac "norms" then. I had to hold down a key and click to get the equivalent of a right click in "PC." How does one right-click on the "one button" Mac mouse - I love learning new stuff. Oh, and BTW I've been a PC guy since there was such a thing and have never had to clean a mouse wheel. ;D
Rand
You go to the mouse system preference and configure the right button to act as a right click. And then it's 100% reliable; I never accidentally left clicked.
Face it: Your advice sucks. You don't even know what you're talking about, and your advice is both unhelpful AND uninformed.
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Face it: Your advice sucks. You don't even know what you're talking about, and your advice is both unhelpful AND uninformed.
Actually Rand's advice back at reply #2 was helpful, informed and probably was all the OP needed to know.
Got anything more helpful to add ?
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You go to the mouse system preference and configure the right button to act as a right click. And then it's 100% reliable; I never accidentally left clicked.
Interesting, but the mouse my friend has didn't have any left or right. The whole front of the mouse clicked straight down. I'm assuming from you reply that Apple does have multi-button mice? If so, do they come standard or are they optional?
As for my advice, it may have sucked in your view of things, but it was good enough to get my friend up and running on his new iMac with his catalog intact, LR5 installed and running, etc. Admittedly, we were pretty much the blind leading the blind, which is why the book I recommended was very helpful in the migration.
Apologies to the OP for the digression.
Rand
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Since several years, all Apple mouses have one unique button (the mouse goes down like one unique block), but the mouse it is able to detect which finger is pushing the mouse down, so it detects a right click or a left click.
The idea was people coming from PCs would be able to use the mouse as usual (just enabling this behavior in the preferences of OS X), or all time Mac users could still use their mouse like always...
Until this last Magic Mouse, the one tha it is also a touchpad, I have never been a fan of Apple mouses, for me they were always the worst anatomically mouse design in the market... But I have to confess that the touch features of this last mouse make me go more quick in some tasks... I don't like also their keyboards, they are way better than 99% of the market, but I brought a mechanical keyboard... Much better writing experience...
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Since several years, all Apple mouses have one unique button (the mouse goes down like one unique block), but the mouse it is able to detect which finger is pushing the mouse down, so it detects a right click or a left click.
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That was also the case with the Magic Mouse's predecessor, the Mighty Mouse (still sold).
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Since several years, all Apple mouses have one unique button (the mouse goes down like one unique block), but the mouse it is able to detect which finger is pushing the mouse down, so it detects a right click or a left click.
The idea was people coming from PCs would be able to use the mouse as usual (just enabling this behavior in the preferences of OS X), or all time Mac users could still use their mouse like always...
Until this last Magic Mouse, the one tha it is also a touchpad, I have never been a fan of Apple mouses, for me they were always the worst anatomically mouse design in the market... But I have to confess that the touch features of this last mouse make me go more quick in some tasks... I don't like also their keyboards, they are way better than 99% of the market, but I brought a mechanical keyboard... Much better writing experience...
Thanks for the info ...
Rand
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... As for my advice, it may have sucked in your view of things...
A case of mistaken identity? Seems he had in mind the "advice" (reply) #1 and you got caught in the crossfire?
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A case of mistaken identity? Seems he had in mind the "advice" (reply) #1 and you got caught in the crossfire?
No worries... I don't offend easily, in any event. Doesn't really matter. What matters is that the OP has been helped in some way, even if inadvertently.
Rand