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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: rogerxnz on July 28, 2012, 06:26:28 pm

Title: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: rogerxnz on July 28, 2012, 06:26:28 pm: Do you think it would be a waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V (Hasselblad 5xx series) lenses in the sense that the older lenses are not up to the resolution offered by these backs?

Possibly, you might see defects in the lenses???
Roger
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: henrikfoto on July 28, 2012, 06:59:36 pm: Many of the V-lenses are very good even with the 80 mp backs.
I like the newest V-lenses in many cases better than the new Phase one or H-lenses.

But I would stay away from the V-cameras with the highest resolution backs.
They will cause you a lot of frustration.

The Contax 645 is very good with digital backs, cheap and can use both the Cf and the Fe lenses.

Henrik
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: rogerxnz on July 28, 2012, 07:23:39 pm: Than you for your views, Henrik.

Please tell me more about "But I would stay away from the V-cameras with the highest resolution backs. They will cause you a lot of frustration."

Frustration in what way? I have an Aptus 75 and the only frustration I sometimes have is in focussing which I understand many others experience when using DBs.

What frustrations are you referring to?
Roger
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: henrikfoto on July 28, 2012, 07:55:31 pm: I had a 80 mp back with my 503cw for 2 months. I finally gave up. The V-cameras are not precise enough
for these backs (80mp). They also make too much vibrations. If I was lucky 1 out of 10 pics were sharp, even if I was very careful. I am talking freehand shooting.

I have no problems with the 503 with the P20 or P25.

Henrik
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: FredBGG on July 28, 2012, 11:51:40 pm: Interesting reading on the V and H lenses.

http://www.hasselbladusa.com/media/1663143/the_evolution_of_lenses.pdf (http://www.hasselbladusa.com/media/1663143/the_evolution_of_lenses.pdf)

Many of the very high end film camera medium format lenses are perfectly good on MFDB. The whole digital lens thing is a bit of a marketing myth.
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: bradleygibson on July 29, 2012, 01:12:50 am: Digital medium format requires the very best in technique to achieve peak image quality.

60 or 80MP is definitely not wasted on the V-series--these cameras and their optics can deliver top-notch results. Vibration from mirror slap will be a problem with a particular range of shutter speeds--test your setup to find out where you will run into trouble.

Shutter vibration can also an issue on the F/FE series cameras, particularly with longer lenses, but I assume you were talking about a C/CF/CFE V camera.
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: design_freak on July 29, 2012, 03:07:33 am: Quote from: henrikfoto on July 28, 2012, 07:55:31 pm
I had a 80 mp back with my 503cw for 2 months. I finally gave up. The V-cameras are not precise enough
for these backs (80mp). They also make too much vibrations. If I was lucky 1 out of 10 pics were sharp, even if I was very careful. I am talking freehand shooting.

I have no problems with the 503 with the P20 or P25.

Henrik
Dear Henrik,
Want to sell your 80?
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: henrikfoto on July 29, 2012, 04:58:11 am: Quote from: design_freak on July 29, 2012, 03:07:33 am
Dear Henrik,
Want to sell your 80?

I changed the mount to Mamiya. If I were to do it again I would have changed it to Hy6.

Henrik
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: Gigi on July 29, 2012, 06:12:18 am: not sure that can be done....
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: EricWHiss on July 29, 2012, 11:00:51 am: Of course it can. You can still buy new AFi-ii 12's. Henrik what are you waiting for? The schneider lenses are better than the zeiss V lenses. Less distortion, better bokeh.
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: henrikfoto on July 29, 2012, 04:11:37 pm: Yes, I should, but just the new mount is minimum 3-4.000 $ by Phase one/Leaf.
Nothing like the old Sinars and Hasselblads where you could have many different
mounts and change when you needed. :(

Henrik
Title: Re: Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: EricWHiss on July 29, 2012, 08:09:09 pm: Well you can fit the AFi with adapters to the Mamiya RZ, arTec, cambo, alpa, linhof and maybe other cameras. Anything with a sliding back like my Xact2. The RZ adapter works like the Sinar adapter plates with scews and cables and everything else is snap in. Actually I think you can get one for the Fuji 680 too?
Title: How to use an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?
Post by: Dick Roadnight on July 30, 2012, 06:57:31 am: I can use V series lenses with my H4D-60 by using the CF adapter - and this is an option I might use, as I have the Zeiss 120 Macro, and not the new HC(2) macro 120... but I like movements... so I could use my Sinar back on the Hasselblad Flexbody, but the 54H is only 22Mpx in single shot, and I can only use it multi-shot with an electronic shutter?

My new Hasselblad 300mm is a nice autofocus lens, and I could remote DoF stack with it, but will I use my Zeiss 250mm again?

...and how would my Zeiss 40mm (on my H4D-60) compare to the Schneider Apo-Digitar 47XL (on my Sinar P3)?