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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: torchiam on September 13, 2011, 04:13:01 am

Title: adapter quesiton
Post by: torchiam on September 13, 2011, 04:13:01 am
hello friends here.the new guy comes with new question,again

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hassel-Hasselblad-lens-Mamiya-M645-645E-645J-Adapter-/330577386188?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf7f29acc

is there anyone know about this adapter?i am thinking about get the ring so to use a old hassel 120 macro lens on phase one 645df and iq180.

basically i have two questions.one question, is the focus perfect in term of the quality of the adapter?

the second question,is the v mount 120/4 macro has an outstanding resolution to put on phase one 645d with iq180?or i am just making trouble to myself.i mean maybe buying the genuine mamiya made 120 macro is the best choice for 645df and iq180?

thank you very much in advance!
Title: Re: adapter quesiton
Post by: Peter Devos on September 13, 2011, 05:58:37 am
The Mamiya 645 120 mm macro (any version) is a super lens. Also the 80mm Macro F4 manual focus-N version is a great performer. i think it is not worth the hassle.
Title: Re: adapter quesiton
Post by: design_freak on September 13, 2011, 06:13:43 am
The Mamiya 645 120 mm macro (any version) is a super lens. Also the 80mm Macro F4 manual focus-N version is a great performer. i think it is not worth the hassle.

+1
Title: Re: adapter quesiton
Post by: lance_schad on September 13, 2011, 09:54:18 am
Here is a great overview of the Mamiya Lenses that Jack @ GetDPI put together link (http://bit.ly/mW6mjM).
From my experience it is not worth using the adapter as the Mamiya 120mm macro is an excellent performer, especially the "D" version.

Lance
Title: Re: adapter quesiton
Post by: henrikfoto on September 13, 2011, 04:05:03 pm
I use this adapter a lot. It's very precise and works great.

In the case of the macros, I would go for the Mamiya.
I have tested them agains each other, and the Mamiya 120 macro is
clearly sharper than the best Hasselblad macro(120mm cfe).
I hate to admit this :-\. I am a great fan of the Hasselblad V lenses.

I have heard the new Mamiya 120ts has started to ship. This lens is
very expensive but is said to be even sharper than the 120 macro mf....

Henrik
Title: Re: adapter quesiton
Post by: John R Smith on September 13, 2011, 04:13:46 pm
I have tested them agains each other, and the Mamiya 120 macro is
clearly sharper than the best Hasselblad macro(120mm cfe).
I hate to admit this :-\. I am a great fan of the Hasselblad V lenses.

Sharpness is not the only virtue which makes a fine lens. The quality of its drawing is what makes the old Zeiss 120mm great.

John
Title: Re: adapter quesiton
Post by: henrikfoto on September 13, 2011, 04:20:48 pm
Sharpness is not the only virtue which makes a fine lens. The quality of its drawing is what makes the old Zeiss 120mm great.

John
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I have used it many times. I thought it was great too...
Have you tried the Mamiya 120?

Henrik
Title: Re: adapter quesiton
Post by: fotometria gr on September 13, 2011, 06:10:08 pm
I've used the mamiya 120 on a mamiya, its a very good lens, I'm also using all the time (my most used MF lens) my Contax-Zeiss 120 macro on my Contax 645af on singleshot multishot or microstep with my Imacon 528c. I have the feeling that my Zeiss may be the best lens ever made!!! I have also tried a latest Has 120mm but with film only, my Contax-Zeiss on film was a little better, but the hass is an awesome lens. I'm using 2 adaptors on my Contax a P6 and a Hass one, both are dead accurate although both aftermarket. All the Hass glass (haven't tried the 120 on Contax, only on hass/film) I've tried on my Contax was great. Based on my experience I have the feeling that its the saturation/color balance of the Zeiss that would probably satisfy you more, I wouldn't worry much about resolution with both of them, not even on an IQ180, but call that a hatch, I've never tried the IQ180. Cheers Theodoros, www.fotometria.gr
Title: Re: adapter quesiton
Post by: torchiam on September 15, 2011, 04:36:59 am
thank you all for the replys.since i do not have a chance and have the capability to do comparison,the professional replys here are the only i can relay on.

and @henrikfoto.i would like to ask more about your reply.as i read it,you mean the Tilt shift 120mm lens can be used as a macro lens?and do portrait shots?

is this one that you mentioned?
http://www.phaseone.com/en/Lenses/Schneider-Kreuznach-120mm-TS/Info.aspx

thank you all again!