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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: CharlesRamsey on December 31, 2010, 09:42:29 am

Title: WHY NOT VIDEO CROPPING ?
Post by: CharlesRamsey on December 31, 2010, 09:42:29 am
Luminous Landscape is waxing poetic about Panasonic's video feature that uses just a portion on the image sensor. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/panasonic_gh2_11_mode_revealed.shtml Why not use a larger portion of the sensor then crop the resulting video. This would allow you to remove image shake caused by camera movement. You could pick two frames and define the center of each frame the computer would then align the frames in between that would give the smoothest motion.
Title: Re: WHY NOT VIDEO CROPPING ?
Post by: feppe on December 31, 2010, 09:53:24 am
Luminous Landscape is waxing poetic about Panasonic's video feature that uses just a portion on the image sensor. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/panasonic_gh2_11_mode_revealed.shtml Why not use a larger portion of the sensor then crop the resulting video. This would allow you to remove image shake caused by camera movement. You could pick two frames and define the center of each frame the computer would then align the frames in between that would give the smoothest motion.

Since no one has gone public about this, all we have is speculation. Possible reasons:
Title: Re: WHY NOT VIDEO CROPPING ?
Post by: michael on December 31, 2010, 10:09:36 am
Luminous Landscape is waxing poetic about Panasonic's video feature that uses just a portion on the image sensor. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/panasonic_gh2_11_mode_revealed.shtml Why not use a larger portion of the sensor then crop the resulting video. This would allow you to remove image shake caused by camera movement. You could pick two frames and define the center of each frame the computer would then align the frames in between that would give the smoothest motion.

The simple answer is, that's not the way the technology works. Rather than my entering into a lengthy explanation and discussion here (likely beyond my technical knowledge in any event), I would suggest that you study up on how video is implemented, and the data rates and limitations of current ASICs and CODECs.

It's easy to say. "Why don't they", but it's also safe to assume that if they could, they would,

Michael
Title: Re: WHY NOT VIDEO CROPPING ?
Post by: RFPhotography on January 01, 2011, 08:24:44 am
Luminous Landscape is waxing poetic about Panasonic's video feature that uses just a portion on the image sensor. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/panasonic_gh2_11_mode_revealed.shtml Why not use a larger portion of the sensor then crop the resulting video. This would allow you to remove image shake caused by camera movement. You could pick two frames and define the center of each frame the computer would then align the frames in between that would give the smoothest motion.

What you're referring to seems to be basically what video deshaker filters do now.
Title: Re: WHY NOT VIDEO CROPPING ?
Post by: michael on January 01, 2011, 10:07:06 am
What you're referring to seems to be basically what video deshaker filters do now.

Very true. Now imagine doing this in real time while shooting. The processor demand would be enormous.

Michael
Title: Re: WHY NOT VIDEO CROPPING ?
Post by: RFPhotography on January 01, 2011, 02:02:21 pm
Absolutely, Michael. 

Maybe I misunderstood the original commet, but I wasn't sure if Charles was talking about doing it in camera or in post.