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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Rajan Parrikar on December 11, 2010, 04:09:35 pm

Title: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Rajan Parrikar on December 11, 2010, 04:09:35 pm
South African adventurer Hendrik Coetzee was killed recently when a crocodile took him in a river in the Congo.  Richard Bangs writes about the dangers of croc photography.

I found myself in cold sweat nightmares imagining the yellow chisel-sharp teeth of a giant croc ripping my skin apart. This would be the most awful way to die. But I thought about the alternative...law or graduate school leading to a real job... and facing crocodiles seemed the delightful evil of two lessors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-bangs/full-of-croc-why-not-to-m_b_794986.html
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: JBerardi on December 11, 2010, 06:05:28 pm
I found myself in cold sweat nightmares imagining the yellow chisel-sharp teeth of a giant croc ripping my skin apart. This would be the most awful way to die. But I thought about the alternative...law or graduate school leading to a real job... and facing crocodiles seemed the delightful evil of two lessors.

Well, building a false dichotomy is one way to justify your reckless behavior, I guess..
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 12, 2010, 03:41:55 am
Well, building a false dichotomy is one way to justify your reckless behavior, I guess..
Quite. And despite spending a little time thinking about it, I can't quite grasp what the rather silly mangling of the cliché is supposed to convey.

Jeremy
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: David Sutton on December 12, 2010, 04:29:54 pm
Quite. And despite spending a little time thinking about it, I can't quite grasp what the rather silly mangling of the cliché is supposed to convey.

Jeremy

Ego?
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 12, 2010, 05:18:41 pm
... the rather silly mangling of the cliché….

Speaking about mangling metaphors... how about this: the guy would rather be eaten by crocs than by rats (in reference to "rat race")  ;)
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 12, 2010, 05:46:34 pm
Speaking about mangling metaphors... how about this: the guy would rather be eaten by crocs than by rats (in reference to "rat race")  ;)
Well, I've some sympathy for that point of view. It's probably no more painful and certainly a lot quicker.

Jeremy
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: BFoto on December 12, 2010, 09:36:52 pm
Speaking about mangling metaphors... how about this: the guy would rather be eaten by crocs than by rats (in reference to "rat race")  ;)

It's not a metaphor if you have to reference it! lol
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 12, 2010, 11:54:48 pm
It's not a metaphor if you have to reference it! lol

Referencing is a curtesy gesture for connect-the-dot challenged  ;)
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Riaan van Wyk on December 13, 2010, 12:07:43 am
Metaphor or not, I would rather not be eaten by anything.
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Robert Roaldi on December 13, 2010, 11:44:26 am
What an odd series of comments. Adventure used to be admired, now cynics ridicule it.

He was obviously using hyperbole to cast aspersions on the cubicle life. There's no need to take it personally.



Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 13, 2010, 12:00:54 pm
… He was obviously using hyperbole to cast aspersions on the cubicle life...

Seriously? And I thought... ;)
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: feppe on December 13, 2010, 12:39:05 pm
Adventure used to be admired, now cynics ridicule it.

It's not only cynics, unfortunately. Just look at the dwindling funding of space exploration in the western world. Fortunately big business(men) is/are picking up where governments are quitting.

There is a backlash evident in the popularity of extreme sports, but I'd say that's a niche and not exactly adventure in the traditional sense.

Then again there is much to be said about unprepared idiots getting lost in high seas once their GPS runs out of batteries, or getting stranded on mountainsides known for avalanches - and it's the tax payer who picks up the bill for the rescue efforts.
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: David Sutton on December 13, 2010, 11:24:26 pm
What an odd series of comments. Adventure used to be admired, now cynics ridicule it.

Well, without reference to the late Mr. Coetzee, but just a comment in general, there  is a big difference between adventure and an adolescent “testing oneself against nature”. The latter objectifies the natural world and its creatures. It treats the world without respect as something “out there.” As a thing to be overcome. There lies a real cynicism.
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 14, 2010, 03:45:33 am
Well, without reference to the late Mr. Coetzee, but just a comment in general, there  is a big difference between adventure and an adolescent “testing oneself against nature”. The latter objectifies the natural world and its creatures. It treats the world without respect as something “out there.” As a thing to be overcome. There lies a real cynicism.
Exactly. There's an important difference between courage and stupidity.

Jeremy

PS: I think our avatars should meet, David
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: David Sutton on December 14, 2010, 11:21:43 pm
PS: I think our avatars should meet, David

Steady on old chap. Harm can come to a young avatar being introduced into society too early.
Title: Re: No messing around with those crocs
Post by: JBerardi on December 16, 2010, 01:07:45 pm
There's an important difference between courage and stupidity.

Jeremy

And you lose that difference when you compress the world into "this or an office job".

Honestly, thinking about the level of skill, expertise, planning, precaution and above all patience that must go into proper crocodile (or really any wildlife) photography, I think the office job might be a lot more exciting in practice. And afford me more actual time to shoot.