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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: jerryrock on March 27, 2010, 11:11:34 am
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As a pre release tester of Adobe Photoshop CS5, I was asked to post some images made with CS5. The following example was a quick edit using Photoshop CS5 done on my MacBook Pro using just the track pad.
I am not authorized to discuss the features of the program until the product launch at 11 AM April 12, 2010.
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Simply amazing! The fact that it was just a "quick" edit makes it even more so. This type of retouching would takes hours to perfect. Can't wait for the release.
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Goodie! Particularly impressive is the reconstruction of the trailing edge of the wing.
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Oh boy ... this will have the Photoshop police going CRAZY!
CS5 will probably be outlawed in some jurisdictions ...
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Oh boy ... this will have the Photoshop police going CRAZY!
No, Just Andrew Rodney. Apparently Adobe didn't check with him first before they began this marketing campaign!
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Kind of implies the content aware stuff we've seen elsewhere is in the release...
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I knew something like that was about to happened,
and sure it is one tool, 10 seconds watch in hand.
God, my "old" CS3 is going to go to the recycle tool.
Any dispaches from the field regarding more minute tools for fashion? Hope something for the hairs and a direct render for skins brands.
The D&G skin tone, the Chanel's etc...
Another one called anti-anorexic model tool, etc...
What would we do without Adobe now?
Fred.
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Kind of implies the content aware stuff we've seen elsewhere is in the release...
Or the clone tool we’ve had since version 1.0. You’ll never know for sure until NDAs are up, making posting such images far from useful. But anyone is welcome to assume or imply whatever they wish to toot their own horn in this case.
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Or the clone tool we've had since version 1.0. You'll never know for sure until NDAs are up, making posting such images far from useful. But anyone is welcome to assume or imply whatever they wish to toot their own horn in this case.
That's super.
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Or the clone tool we’ve had since version 1.0. You’ll never know for sure until NDAs are up, making posting such images far from useful. But anyone is welcome to assume or imply whatever they wish to toot their own horn in this case.
And apparently anyone is free to make false accusations of NDA violations, and other disparaging remarks because they are SO useful.
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CS5 does a LOT more than you think...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0)
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CS5 does a LOT more than you think...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0)
FINALLY we're back on topic
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CS5 does a LOT more than you think...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0)
:-)
But is the Mac version 64bits and are the core processes like open and save multi-threaded?
Cheers,
Bernard
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Wow! I'm really impressed!
I never found much reason to upgrade from CS3E to CS4E so I'm still using CS3E. However, I will find these 'context aware' features extremely useful.
I assume there will be no problem upgrading from CS3 to CS5. I mean, it won't be more expensive than upgrading from CS4, will it?
Well done, Adobe!
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I am not authorized to discuss the features of the program until the product launch at 11 AM April 12, 2010.
Hum, I guess the "newness" of being granted early access to software gets some people a bit over excited...
I suspect (but don't know for a fact) that you got added as a late beta tester via the NAPP call for beta testers? If so, you were chosen more for your test platform that your personal value as a tester...
Since Andrew and I are not part of any late beta program, I suspect that our reaction to somebody announcing that they are a beta tester and are being encouraged to state that they are a beta tester and then show images supposedly done in a beta Photoshop CS5 and then state they can't talk about how they did the images and what features they used is, well, silly.
The before/after could have been done with ANY version of Photoshop from the last decade...and the fact that you did it easier using Content Aware Fill (and maybe other techniques) is, well, I suppose YOU can't talk about it but John Nack has already posted a blog post about Content Aware Fill (http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2010/03/caf_in_ps.html) that well, means you CAN talk about it (if you understand your NDA).
Since you are "not authorized to discuss the features" of CS5, you might want to spend your time actually testing the beta and filing bug reports–which is the general role of a beta tester ya know?
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Wow! I'm really impressed!
I never found much reason to upgrade from CS3E to CS4E so I'm still using CS3E. However, I will find these 'context aware' features extremely useful.
I assume there will be no problem upgrading from CS3 to CS5. I mean, it won't be more expensive than upgrading from CS4, will it?
Well done, Adobe!
You can upgrade from up to three versions back,same cost. But if you have CS1, upgrade to CS4 after April 12th and you will then get bumped to CS5, jumping 4 generations.
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Since Andrew and I are not part of any late beta program, I suspect that our reaction to somebody announcing that they are a beta tester and are being encouraged to state that they are a beta tester and then show images supposedly done in a beta Photoshop CS5 and then state they can't talk about how they did the images and what features they used is, well, silly.
Since you are "not authorized to discuss the features" of CS5, you might want to spend your time actually testing the beta and filing bug reports–which is the general role of a beta tester ya know?
It appears late Beta testers have been officially encouraged to do exactly what Jerry Rock has done. i.e. show before and after shots of their own, but with no explanation of how anything was done. They are playing a slightly different role to normal beta testers it would seem.
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Hum, I guess the "newness" of being granted early access to software gets some people a bit over excited...
I suspect (but don't know for a fact) that you got added as a late beta tester via the NAPP call for beta testers? If so, you were chosen more for your test platform that your personal value as a tester...
Since Andrew and I are not part of any late beta program, I suspect that our reaction to somebody announcing that they are a beta tester and are being encouraged to state that they are a beta tester and then show images supposedly done in a beta Photoshop CS5 and then state they can't talk about how they did the images and what features they used is, well, silly.
The before/after could have been done with ANY version of Photoshop from the last decade...and the fact that you did it easier using Content Aware Fill (and maybe other techniques) is, well, I suppose YOU can't talk about it but John Nack has already posted a blog post about Content Aware Fill (http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2010/03/caf_in_ps.html) that well, means you CAN talk about it (if you understand your NDA).
Since you are "not authorized to discuss the features" of CS5, you might want to spend your time actually testing the beta and filing bug reports–which is the general role of a beta tester ya know?
Ya know...it's a good thing Adobe makes makes a hell of a good product and has a virtual monopoly because, with guys like you being "a" public face of the product, they would otherwise be in BIG trouble.
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Ya know...it's a good thing Adobe makes makes a hell of a good product and has a virtual monopoly because, with guys like you being "a" public face of the product, they would otherwise be in BIG trouble.
What makes you think I'm a public face of the product?
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What makes you think I'm a public face of the product?
I think you're definitely the public 'something' of the product ... but certainly not the face ...
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Personally, I'm already sick of all the over-blown hype about this content aware stuff. I guess it looks great in web-sized images or even smaller video clips, but that doesn't mean it will be truly seamless in real world, high-resolution photographs. I remember similar hype about the content-aware scaling before CS4 came out, but the reality was far less impressive IMHO. Besides, I just don't have much need/desire to do this kind of manipulation to my photographs, let alone removing roads as in the video clip everybody's going ga-ga over.
Oh and Jeremy - ROTLFMAO
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I think you're definitely the public 'something' of the product ... but certainly not the face ...
If you think I represent Adobe in any way, you are deluded...I don't work for Adobe (although I occasionally work with Adobe).
So, if you think that my attitudes and behavior somehow reflect on Adobe, you need your perspective of the world changed...
If you want to see a representative "face of Adobe", look at MadManChan (Eric Chan)...he's a prime example of an Adobe employee that is both extremely knowledgeable as well as being a really nice guy.
I seriously don't give a shit about being a nice guy anymore...so, if you are implying that I'm an a$$hole, then you are right (but it would be useful if you had the balls to actually say so).
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Hum, I guess the "newness" of being granted early access to software gets some people a bit over excited...
I suspect (but don't know for a fact) that you got added as a late beta tester via the NAPP call for beta testers? If so, you were chosen more for your test platform that your personal value as a tester...
Since Andrew and I are not part of any late beta program, I suspect that our reaction to somebody announcing that they are a beta tester and are being encouraged to state that they are a beta tester and then show images supposedly done in a beta Photoshop CS5 and then state they can't talk about how they did the images and what features they used is, well, silly.
The before/after could have been done with ANY version of Photoshop from the last decade...and the fact that you did it easier using Content Aware Fill (and maybe other techniques) is, well, I suppose YOU can't talk about it but John Nack has already posted a blog post about Content Aware Fill (http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2010/03/caf_in_ps.html) that well, means you CAN talk about it (if you understand your NDA).
Since you are "not authorized to discuss the features" of CS5, you might want to spend your time actually testing the beta and filing bug reports–which is the general role of a beta tester ya know?
I am getting tired of all the snide comments about my intent and purpose of posting images I created with Adobe Photoshop CS5. Speculate all you want, I am merely fulfilling my commitment with Adobe.
If you have any more questions about my CS5 postings, they can be directed to Pam Clark, Photoshop Group Product Manager. [email protected]
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I am getting tired of all the snide comments about my intent and purpose of posting images I created with Adobe Photoshop CS5. Speculate all you want, I am merely fulfilling my commitment with Adobe.
I'm sure Pam will be tickled to death you posted her email in a public forum...
Just understand you are not a normal "beta tester" but an NAPP beta tester that came up very, very late in the process. Since you edited your post to remove the NAPP specs of what you can and can't post publicly some people may be confused about your role in the beta testing process.
To be perfectly clear, Adobe asked NAPP to put out the call to get a very specific quantity of Mac based testers in a very short order. The role of this testing was platform based (which means anybody who met the platform requirements was added) so Adobe could A) see if the variety of Mac platforms was "working" and that Adobe could get these "beta testers" to do a bit of grass-root marketing...
The fact that you are allowed to post images made with CS5 but can't talk about how you made the images is, simply speaking, conceptually silly. This is not the brightest idea Adobe has had...and sorry to say those people added via the NAPP "beta testing" process are, well, being pushed into a role I suspect they didn't sign up for (and really aren't prepared for)...
Also, to be PERFECTLY CLEAR–if you are reading this and you are a "regular participant" of the beta program and are under the regular NDA, no, you are NOT free to discuss the fact you are a beta tester, nor mention the beta program nor of course talk about ANYTHING not already publicly disclosed by Adobe regarding Photoshop CS5...the embargo for real beta testers is still April 12th...
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Seems the poster missed the shadows of the bars left on the leaves though!
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Sounds like rather a lot of sour grapes on behalf of people who think that they should be the ones Adobe asked to show images. Rather pathetic but then aging bullies always are...
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Personally, I'm already sick of all the over-blown hype about this content aware stuff. I guess it looks great in web-sized images or even smaller video clips, but that doesn't mean it will be truly seamless in real world, high-resolution photographs. I remember similar hype about the content-aware scaling before CS4 came out, but the reality was far less impressive IMHO. Besides, I just don't have much need/desire to do this kind of manipulation to my photographs, let alone removing roads as in the video clip everybody's going ga-ga over.
Oh and Jeremy - ROTLFMAO
What you said, Jeff!
Wendell T.
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Well, it's very clever - and I'm a pretty nifty retoucher myself - but if you knew the butterfly concerned, you would not be taken in for a moment.
John
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I seriously don't give a shit about being a nice guy anymore...so, if you are implying that I'm an a$$hole, then you are right (but it would be useful if you had the balls to actually say so).
Anymore? Dude, time for you to get over yourself ... the rest of us did a long time ago.**
I don't think you realize what a clown you've become.
** Ok ... I'll admit I used to think you were cool and funny and a real ass-kicking, no-nonsense guy. But I've seen enough to realize you are just a windbag.
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I'm sure Pam will be tickled to death you posted her email in a public forum...
Just understand you are not a normal "beta tester" but an NAPP beta tester that came up very, very late in the process. Since you edited your post to remove the NAPP specs of what you can and can't post publicly some people may be confused about your role in the beta testing process.
To be perfectly clear, Adobe asked NAPP to put out the call to get a very specific quantity of Mac based testers in a very short order. The role of this testing was platform based (which means anybody who met the platform requirements was added) so Adobe could A) see if the variety of Mac platforms was "working" and that Adobe could get these "beta testers" to do a bit of grass-root marketing...
The fact that you are allowed to post images made with CS5 but can't talk about how you made the images is, simply speaking, conceptually silly. This is not the brightest idea Adobe has had...and sorry to say those people added via the NAPP "beta testing" process are, well, being pushed into a role I suspect they didn't sign up for (and really aren't prepared for)...
Also, to be PERFECTLY CLEAR–if you are reading this and you are a "regular participant" of the beta program and are under the regular NDA, no, you are NOT free to discuss the fact you are a beta tester, nor mention the beta program nor of course talk about ANYTHING not already publicly disclosed by Adobe regarding Photoshop CS5...the embargo for real beta testers is still April 12th...
Schewe,
I can only guess that you were not invited by Adobe to participate or chose not to. Your speculation and criticism expressed publicly about Adobe's current policy may be indicative of some type of falling out you had with the company.
TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, you do not work for Adobe and you are not a participant, rendering your opinion concerning the prerelease program meaningless. You have no knowledge of my role as a beta tester, or my agreement with Adobe. Yes, I understand you and Rodney were beta testers from way back. Times change and strategies change with the times.
Don't shoot the messenger!
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The fact that you are allowed to post images made with CS5 but can't talk about how you made the images is, simply speaking, conceptually silly. This is not the brightest idea Adobe has had...and sorry to say those people added via the NAPP "beta testing" process are, well, being pushed into a role I suspect they didn't sign up for (and really aren't prepared for)...
Exactly my point too. Follow Jerry over the web where, is he being a good boy and doing what “Adobe wants” or, just super proud he got a late beta and wants everyone to know, and doesn’t get that posting two images without having the ability to say squat about how they were produced is a total waste of time for those viewing the images. So either he’s got to elevate himself by letting people know he got a late beta (BFD) or he thinks that by following Adobe’s silly advice, he’s adding anything useful to the conversation about CS5. Because there is no conversation. And while there are others in the NAPP forum doing this (and many that agree with my points), I’ve yet to see anyone else besides Jerry going hog wild on numerous sites showing off images he can’t say anything about.
I don’t know who I feel sorry for more, Jerry or Adobe. In either case, what has been posted about CS5 is worthless.
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Seems the poster missed the shadows of the bars left on the leaves though!
That old Clone tool is so 1990.
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I don’t know who I feel sorry for more, Jerry or Adobe. In either case, what has been posted about CS5 is worthless.
Are you a marketing guru or a color-management expert? Or both?
Your fat, old, hairy friend would point out that until you've organized the marketing for a product as big as CS5, you can't comment.
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Are you a marketing guru or a color-management expert? Or both?
Your fat, old, hairy friend would point out that until you've organized the marketing for a product as big as CS5, you can't comment.
Got zero to do with marketing here. You’ve posted two images, one that presumably was done with super duper new features of CS5 that you can’t talk about (and as pointed out on two sites, not processed that well), and we the readers are supposed to gain some useful knowledge other than you have a late beta and you can’t use it very well. The only information we’ve seen here or from the same images you’ve posted to at least two other sites is, you got a beta, you can show two images that don’t look the same and that the newer processed image, of which you can say nothing about needs more Photoshop work. You think you helped Adobe’s marketing or your own? My point is, neither.