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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Craig Lamson on November 20, 2009, 07:36:43 pm

Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: Craig Lamson on November 20, 2009, 07:36:43 pm
I need a new hand truck and the rock n roller looks decent, and affordable. Anyone have any experience good or bad?
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: mattlap2 on November 20, 2009, 08:32:06 pm
I have used the Rock & Roller carts and have found them to be pretty durable and functional.   Personally I have preferred the Kart-a-bag Kartmaster HD500 as a bit more solid and they sell a tray system like a Magliner.
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: CBarrett on November 20, 2009, 08:46:47 pm
Quote from: mattlap2
I have used the Rock & Roller carts and have found them to be pretty durable and functional.   Personally I have preferred the Kart-a-bag Kartmaster HD500 as a bit more solid and they sell a tray system like a Magliner.


I LOVE my friggin cart (http://www.filmtools.com/fillibjrours.html)!!!! Wouldn't go anywhere without it.
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs017.snc1/4512_1150524598356_1084839154_30441521_513636_n.jpg)

-C
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: James R Russell on November 20, 2009, 09:35:36 pm
Quote from: mattlap2
I have used the Rock & Roller carts and have found them to be pretty durable and functional.   Personally I have preferred the Kart-a-bag Kartmaster HD500 as a bit more solid and they sell a tray system like a Magliner.

I can't imagine anything more durable or usable than a magliner.  I have two junior and one senior, two of them over 8 years with heavy use and never a problem, other than the yellow sand tires got punchtured.

Really great equipment.

This is a junior.

[attachment=18100:maglinerJR.jpg]
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: cyberean on November 20, 2009, 10:36:15 pm
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....p;hl=hand+truck (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33479&hl=hand+truck)
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: Craig Lamson on November 20, 2009, 11:28:08 pm
Quote from: cyberean
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....p;hl=hand+truck (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33479&hl=hand+truck)

Thanks for the link, and everyone else for their cart stories.
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: rsmphoto on November 21, 2009, 05:44:40 pm
I'll second the Magliner. Lightweight & Indestructibe. They last forever. My assistants love 'em.




Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: Graham Mitchell on November 21, 2009, 05:49:47 pm
Those Magliner wheels only seem suitable for indoor use.
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: James R Russell on November 21, 2009, 05:56:00 pm
Quote from: foto-z
Those Magliner wheels only seem suitable for indoor use.


FEDEX use em' and has forever.

I guess you could bust a wheel off, but haven't yet and we've pushed them over every surface you can think of.

JR
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: Peter McLennan on November 21, 2009, 07:37:50 pm
Magliners are the tool of choice for movie set camera assistants.  
Those carts see brutal use in every conceivable condition.
They all love 'em.
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: Craig Lamson on November 21, 2009, 10:15:35 pm
Quote from: Peter McLennan
Magliners are the tool of choice for movie set camera assistants.  
Those carts see brutal use in every conceivable condition.
They all love 'em.

I went budget and got the rock and roller. It's going to be fine for my application.  Maybe someday when the econony picks back up and business rebounds in my market I can spring for the top shelf.

Besides I got it at Sweetwater, a big online musical recording/equipment company that is located here and I got it at the retail store, no shipping required.

I'have gone from 99% studio work to 100% location in the last year so I'm doing a complete rethink and adjustment of all my gear to fit my new reality.  Its a big swing to say the least.


Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: Graham Mitchell on November 21, 2009, 10:38:36 pm
Quote from: James R Russell
I guess you could bust a wheel off, but haven't yet and we've pushed them over every surface you can think of.

Including loose sand? Those small wheels look like they would dig in. Or cobble stones? Admittedly the latter is more of a European hazard.

[attachment=18117:cobble_stones.jpg]

That's why I got a cart with 10" pneumatic tires.

[attachment=18118:cart.jpg]
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: Jens_Langen on November 21, 2009, 11:45:31 pm
James, what are those hard cases you're using?
Same question to Christopher.
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: James R Russell on November 22, 2009, 05:34:39 am
Quote from: foto-z
Including loose sand? Those small wheels look like they would dig in. Or cobble stones? Admittedly the latter is more of a European hazard.



That's why I got a cart with 10" pneumatic tires.

Cobblestones.  You've never shot in the Meat Packing District.

Your probably not aware of what magliner offers and how many are in use in the film and photography biz.

Balloon tires for the beach, conversion wheels, umbrellas, 150mm mitchell camera mounts, monitor mounts, ditty bags, holds flags, lights, doubles as a tech station comes with umbrellas, shelves, drawers, stair climbers, folds down, can even be used as a camera dolly.

You can't find a set in Hollywood without a magliner, or a grip truck without two of them.

The junior when used as a digital tech cart will fit in most narrow locations, small hallways.

http://www.nalpak.com/retail/categoryGrid....C=C0242&N=1 (http://www.nalpak.com/retail/categoryGrid.asp?D=D0115&S=S0155&G=G1&C=C0242&N=1)

Film tools is just a good and most accessories are interchangeable.

http://www.filmtools.com/unacforallma.html (http://www.filmtools.com/unacforallma.html)

You can take my cameras, my lights, but not those magliners.

JR
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: gwhitf on February 06, 2010, 05:41:44 pm
Quote from: James R Russell
Balloon tires for the beach, conversion wheels, umbrellas,

Here's our Kart. I'm still trying to get it to fold up more efficiently; to me, it's still a little sloppy. I still think there's a way to squeeze a few more C-Stands in there somehow. My assistants keep asking for those balloon tires, but I just think the added weight would make it even harder to carry up the mountains.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwxf2xzj...z6f9yo1_500.jpg (http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwxf2xzj3E1qz6f9yo1_500.jpg)
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: aaron on February 06, 2010, 05:59:22 pm
Quote from: gwhitf
Here's our Kart. I'm still trying to get it to fold up more efficiently; to me, it's still a little sloppy. I still think there's a way to squeeze a few more C-Stands in there somehow. My assistants keep asking for those balloon tires, but I just think the added weight would make it even harder to carry up the mountains.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwxf2xzj...z6f9yo1_500.jpg (http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwxf2xzj3E1qz6f9yo1_500.jpg)

   
Title: Rock n Roller handtrucks
Post by: Mike Bailey on February 07, 2010, 06:14:36 am
Though Craig already bought a Rock N Roller, I thought I'd add my experience with them.  I've used one for a number of years doing art fairs, and found the one I have very good, capable of hauling several hundred pounds at once (rated at 500 I think).  I bought mine before they started selling a model that has the bigger 8-inch tires front and back, which I would have gotten.  The smaller wheels on the front of the old standard model just don't work well on grassy surfaces.  Anything not a hard surface can be a problem with that type of wheel, as someone else also pointed out.

Mike

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