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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Colour Management => Topic started by: MBehrens on June 08, 2009, 07:24:35 pm
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Samsung has LED flat panel TVs available for "reasonable" prices. Kind of surprised that these panels did not come out in the high end monitor world first. The first we saw was small 12" units and then a leap to 40". Are these not good for desktop color managed applications. I thought they would be great - no back lighting - true blacks - etc. Am I mistaken?
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Samsung has LED flat panel TVs available for "reasonable" prices. Kind of surprised that these panels did not come out in the high end monitor world first. The first we saw was small 12" units and then a leap to 40". Are these not good for desktop color managed applications. I thought they would be great - no back lighting - true blacks - etc. Am I mistaken?
I thought that some new Mac monitors (imac??) were LED. A friend from the Netherlands also mentioned LED monitors to me a while ago, so I made the assumption that they were available readily in that part of the world. Perhaps I was wrong. Hopefully someone has an answer, as I too would be interested.
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Samsung has LED flat panel TVs available for "reasonable" prices. Kind of surprised that these panels did not come out in the high end monitor world first. The first we saw was small 12" units and then a leap to 40". Are these not good for desktop color managed applications. I thought they would be great - no back lighting - true blacks - etc. Am I mistaken?
Samsung offers LED displays for a long time - 20, 24 and 30" (also available as LaCie).
I suppose you actually have mentioned about new OLED displays - they are promising, but time will tell how they really behave in color critical applications.
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Samsung has LED flat panel TVs available for "reasonable" prices. Kind of surprised that these panels did not come out in the high end monitor world first. The first we saw was small 12" units and then a leap to 40". Are these not good for desktop color managed applications. I thought they would be great - no back lighting - true blacks - etc. Am I mistaken?
Which Samsung models are you referring to?
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Which Samsung models are you referring to?
XL series - these are RGB LED, high bit LUT S-PVA panels, like that:
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/...d=LS30EDDLB/XAA (http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=computersperipherals&type=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LS30EDDLB/XAA)
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I know that on the PC side of the world, Dell has these on some of their laptops as well as offering 24 inch models for desktops; prices are pretty reasonable.
It would be interesting to know what some of the pro's (Andrew?) on here think about these displays.
Cheers....
Todd in Chicago
XL series - these are RGB LED, high bit LUT S-PVA panels, like that:
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/...d=LS30EDDLB/XAA (http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=computersperipherals&type=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LS30EDDLB/XAA)
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So I'm seeing LEDs and LED Backlit and then there are OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diode)
An OLED web site
http://www.oled-display.net/ (http://www.oled-display.net/)
The products listed with OLED screens are mostly cell phones. Largest screen is a wireless digital picture frame.
And another
http://www.oled-info.com/ (http://www.oled-info.com/) looks like OLED is a ways off for desktop purposes.
LED-Backlit seems to be what we are seeing on the market right now. the Apple LED Cinema Display is a LED-Backlit TFT LCD
http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/apple...?tag=mncol;psum (http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/apple-led-cinema-display/4507-3174_7-33418352.html?tag=mncol;psum)
It looks like the OLED is the the next leap in display technology.
Seems a bit of false advertising to label a LED-Backlit LCD as a "LED" display. Caveat Emptor
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You have to differentiate between the white LED backlit monitors (Apple) and the RGB backlit monitors like the HP DreamColor. It is the monitor with individual red green and blue LEDs that produces a wider color gamut.
I have been using the HP DreamColor LP2480zx since January of this year and it is an excellent choice. Compared to the other RGB LED monitors on the market, it is relatively inexpensive ($1999) and is unique in that you can actually calibrate seven different color profiles including Full Gamut, Adobe RGB and sRGB. You can switch profiles with the push of a button. This monitor offers the widest gamut currently available. It also allows input from HDMI, VGA, DVI and display port. There were quality control issues with the production of the first line of monitors that produced uneven color. I did have to return the first monitor I purchased but the replacement was perfect. I would not hesitate to recommend this monitor.
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You have to differentiate between the white LED backlit monitors (Apple) and the RGB backlit monitors like the HP DreamColor. It is the monitor with individual red green and blue LEDs that produces a wider color gamut.
I have been using the HP DreamColor LP2480zx since January of this year and it is an excellent choice. Compared to the other RGB LED monitors on the market, it is relatively inexpensive ($1999) and is unique in that you can actually calibrate seven different color profiles including Full Gamut, Adobe RGB and sRGB. You can switch profiles with the push of a button. This monitor offers the widest gamut currently available. It also allows input from HDMI, VGA, DVI and display port. There were quality control issues with the production of the first line of monitors that produced uneven color. I did have to return the first monitor I purchased but the replacement was perfect. I would not hesitate to recommend this monitor.
What "other" RGB LED monitors? There's only ONE similar display on the market - LaCie 724 aka Samsung XL24, that has almost the same price, and gamut.
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What "other" RGB LED monitors? There's only ONE similar display on the market - LaCie 724 aka Samsung XL24, that has almost the same price, and gamut.
I was referring to monitors such as the NEC 2180ux-wg priced at $6,500, or the LG W2420R priced at $2,300.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/...ec-2180wg.shtml (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/nec-2180wg.shtml)
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/17.htm (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/17.htm)
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I was referring to monitors such as the NEC 2180ux-wg priced at $6,500, or the LG W2420R priced at $2,300
Thanks - I've never heard of LG W2420R.
NEC 2180WG is a little bit ancient
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I was referring to monitors such as the NEC 2180ux-wg priced at $6,500
Or the display for $969.00 at MacMall. Hard to believe but yup, these guys are being moved out for awhile. Amazing price even for a 21" considering its amazing technology and original price point.
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I got a refurbished Samsung XL20 for $650 recently on Amazon ... I'm very happy with it.
Not wide aspect like the XL24, but still a very nice monitor.
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Or the display for $969.00 at MacMall. Hard to believe but yup, these guys are being moved out for awhile. Amazing price even for a 21" considering its amazing technology and original price point.
This is so unfair - they even sell them with profiler and custom colorimeter, while in Europe they still cost a fortune...