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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: arashm on May 13, 2009, 04:57:45 pm

Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: arashm on May 13, 2009, 04:57:45 pm: Hello everyone,
I've searched for info but didn't get anything concrete.
we're looking to purchase new LCD monitors, up to now it's been the standard issue Apple cinema display.
These monitors will be used in general production, photoshop and capture stations.
Apple is only offering the old 30 and the new glossy 24"
is anyone using one of these new 24's with success?
how about NEC/Lacie or Dell?? (EIZO is out of our budget)
Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
am
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: Doug Peterson on May 13, 2009, 05:19:57 pm: Quote from: arashm
EIZO is out of our budget

To bad! Eizo are unbelievably good. 5 Year warranty, incredibly accurate and precise, durable build quality, and greatly reduced issues compared to cheaper monitors when it comes to producing accurate smooth gradients, and shadow detail, and dark saturated colors.

Since many will not budget for a 30" Eizo the setup I recommend the most for budget use is small Eizos on one or two stations out of the view of clients for use in color-critical retouching and reproduction and then large cheap monitors for things like capture stations where you want a bright/large monitor to impress clients.

Doug Peterson (e-mail Me) (http://mailto:[email protected])
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Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: CBarrett on May 13, 2009, 05:28:55 pm: Quote from: dougpetersonci
To bad! Eizo are unbelievably good. 5 Year warranty, incredibly accurate and precise, durable build quality, and greatly reduced issues compared to cheaper monitors when it comes to producing accurate smooth gradients, and shadow detail, and dark saturated colors.

Since many will not budget for a 30" Eizo the setup I recommend the most for budget use is small Eizos on one or two stations out of the view of clients for use in color-critical retouching and reproduction and then large cheap monitors for things like capture stations where you want a bright/large monitor to impress clients.

Doug Peterson (e-mail Me) (http://mailto:[email protected])
__________________
Head of Technical Services, Capture Integration
Phase One, Canon, Apple, Profoto, Eizo & More
National: 877.217.9870 | Cell: 740.707.2183
Newsletter: Read Latest or Sign Up (http://www.captureintegration.com/our-company/newsletters/)
Hey Doug,

I'm actually considering a 30" Eizo. Do you think they have a new one coming that will match the contrast range of the new 24"? Isn't it like 1100:1 versus 850 : 1 or so on the older ones?

-Chris
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: tho_mas on May 13, 2009, 08:18:44 pm: Quote from: arashm
Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.
if not displays that supply hardware calibration the displays should meet the following requirements:
- VA (MVA, PVA, S-PVA) or IS-Panel (no TN panel)
- adjustment of luminance
- adjustment RGB chanels
- 10bit LUT or higher (Dell's are 8bit)
- as possible gamma correction as well
- matt display (no glossy panel)
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: tho_mas on May 13, 2009, 08:28:43 pm: Quote from: CBarrett
I'm actually considering a 30" Eizo. Do you think they have a new one coming that will match the contrast range of the new 24"? Isn't it like 1100:1 versus 850 : 1 or so on the older ones?
what are you up to with this high contrast? comfortable contrast to work with is around 400:1... and this is still a much higher contrast than any print can reproduce. Too, all the calibration devices have problems to measure dark tonalvalues accurate.
So there are three reasons to reduce contrast by boosting the blacklevel (e.g. to 0.3cd/qm black): contrast more similar to print, you don't get tired when working hours at the display (high contrast is stressful for the eyes) and you get a more accurate calibration curve.
(and when switching to video 800:1 is still heavy)
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: tho_mas on May 13, 2009, 08:34:11 pm: Quote from: dougpetersonci
5 Year warranty
yes, but they reduced the warranty for the luminance level to max. 120cd/qm for 3 years for the wide gamut monitors.
But of course they are very good.
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: Frank Doorhof on May 14, 2009, 02:14:56 am: Hi,
Also look at the Lacie monitors.
It's no EIZO but it's also no EIZO money.
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: a_krause on May 14, 2009, 10:22:02 am: has anyone had any experience with the Lacie 324: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5421...screen_LCD.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/542187-REG/LaCie_130781_324_24_Widescreen_LCD.html)

I'd like to go the NEC route but the issues its currently having with the mac osx is a turn off
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: Frank Doorhof on May 14, 2009, 11:08:20 am: I use the 324 and I like the monitor very much.
I did a review on it on my blog at www.doorhof.nl/blog under reviews.
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: arashm on May 14, 2009, 01:09:04 pm: Frank
I'm going over to check out your review.
Thank you everyone for your answers.
I would love to hear what people are using and if they are happy with their choice.
am
Title: LCD Monitor Help
Post by: evonzz on May 16, 2009, 11:04:27 am: i just did a calibration tonight - had my eizo for almost 5 years now. I calibrate within every month. Each calibration is virtually identical to the previous - amazing consistency.