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Equipment & Techniques => Digital Cameras & Shooting Techniques => Topic started by: Henry Goh on May 02, 2009, 11:11:43 am
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Any particular reason not to use Eclipse on a P30+ back?
Thanks.
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No I contacted Eclipse and Eclipse 1 is fine for my P30. In Hawaii with the humidity I require the high evaporation rate of Eclipse 1 (they have specsheets on their web site)so I've been using it on all my cameras even if they recommend Eclipse 2. I now use Eclipse 1 as my only solvent for cleaning lenses, filters and sensors. Works better for me than the rest of the fluids, ROR, Visible dust etc
Marc
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Any particular reason not to use Eclipse on a P30+ back?
Thanks.
My P30 came with a cleaning kit by Phase. Didn't you get one as well?
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No I contacted Eclipse and Eclipse 1 is fine for my P30. In Hawaii with the humidity I require the high evaporation rate of Eclipse 1 (they have specsheets on their web site)so I've been using it on all my cameras even if they recommend Eclipse 2. I now use Eclipse 1 as my only solvent for cleaning lenses, filters and sensors. Works better for me than the rest of the fluids, ROR, Visible dust etc
Marc
Marc,
There have been independent tests done on sensor cleaning fluids and Eclipse is by far and away the BEST one of them all. It will evaporate in about 2 seconds, and, more importantly, it cuts through chamber lubricant that gets splattered on the sensor better than any other fluid. I'm not sure how much of a problem oil build-up is on a digital back, but today's D-SLR's are loaded with the stuff, especially full-frames and especially Canon full-frames. People are reporting that when their units are sent in for servicing, Canon will reload the moving parts with oil. I'm sure this is to extend the life of the shutter and mirror.
SONY was the driving force behind E2, they wanted a weaker solution to use on their ITO-coated sensors and supplied Photographic Solutions with the formula (methanol, ethyl and isopropyl alcohols). Subsequent to the introduction of E2, Photosol tested manufacturer-supplied coated-sensors with both Eclipse and E2, and both fluids showed no adverse effects whatsoever. In fact, Eclipse was placed on a PecPad and the tester actually tried to rub the coating off, but he couldn't. So in the real world, Photographic Solutions recommends E2 for most coated sensors just to be consistent with SONY's stance.
There are a lot of people like yourself who have chosen to use Eclipse instead of E2. I have a D300 and have ben using Eclipse ever since I got it with no problems. There is a growing number of folks over at dpreview who are making the switch, too. If anyone has any doubts, they should e-mail Photographic Solutions and ask if Eclipse can be used safely on coated-sensors.
If you have a coated-sensor and wish to be conservative and use E2, here are a couple of tips that can help:
1) Use less fluid – 2 or 3 drops on an 18 mm. swab, 1 or 2 drops on a 14 mm. swab
2) After applying the E2 to the swab, wait 20 to 30 seconds before wiping the sensor
3) Do not press down hard with the swab, E2 works much better with a gentle pressure
4) If you are still left with a little residue, finish up with a “dry” swabbing using a new swab
Regards,
Nicholas
My Website (http://www.copperhillimages.com)
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Marc,
There have been independent tests done on sensor cleaning fluids and Eclipse is by far and away the BEST one of them all. It will evaporate in about 2 seconds, and, more importantly, it cuts through chamber lubricant that gets splattered on the sensor better than any other fluid. I'm not sure how much of a problem oil build-up is on a digital back, but today's D-SLR's are loaded with the stuff, especially full-frames and especially Canon full-frames. People are reporting that when their units are sent in for servicing, Canon will reload the moving parts with oil. I'm sure this is to extend the life of the shutter and mirror.
SONY was the driving force behind E2, they wanted a weaker solution to use on their ITO-coated sensors and supplied Photographic Solutions with the formula (methanol, ethyl and isopropyl alcohols). Subsequent to the introduction of E2, Photosol tested manufacturer-supplied coated-sensors with both Eclipse and E2, and both fluids showed no adverse effects whatsoever. In fact, Eclipse was placed on a PecPad and the tester actually tried to rub the coating off, but he couldn't. So in the real world, Photographic Solutions recommends E2 for most coated sensors just to be consistent with SONY's stance.
There are a lot of people like yourself who have chosen to use Eclipse instead of E2. I have a D300 and have ben using Eclipse ever since I got it with no problems. There is a growing number of folks over at dpreview who are making the switch, too. If anyone has any doubts, they should e-mail Photographic Solutions and ask if Eclipse can be used safely on coated-sensors.
If you have a coated-sensor and wish to be conservative and use E2, here are a couple of tips that can help:
1) Use less fluid – 2 or 3 drops on an 18 mm. swab, 1 or 2 drops on a 14 mm. swab
2) After applying the E2 to the swab, wait 20 to 30 seconds before wiping the sensor
3) Do not press down hard with the swab, E2 works much better with a gentle pressure
4) If you are still left with a little residue, finish up with a “dry” swabbing using a new swab
Regards,
Nicholas
My Website (http://www.copperhillimages.com)
After wasting over $100 in Sensor Swabs and hours trying to get off the grease smeared by the Visible dust Brush on my Canon 5D (after using their chamber cleaning product) I finally used the Copperhill method. It worked far better than anything else at any price, as well as saving much time. The Sensor Klear pen is great for small dust specks that won't blow away. It's great to know I can use Eclipse on the Phase One sensors. Thank you!
Paul
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The before mentioned cleaning kit by phase is not expensive and the solutions should last your for years.
By design, it's so much easier to clean the phase backs and their cleaning solution works great.
Any dealer can sell one, Capture Integration or Digital Transitions.
Paul Caldwell
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The before mentioned cleaning kit by phase is not expensive and the solutions should last your for years.
By design, it's so much easier to clean the phase backs and their cleaning solution works great.
Any dealer can sell one, Capture Integration or Digital Transitions.
Paul Caldwell
Paul is correct. We offer the Resolution Technology DigiClean for $30.00 plus shipping. It is the 2 step solution that comes with all new and pre-owned Phase One backs.
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Of course I have the cleaning kit that came with the Phase back. My question was to see if Eclipse is safe for the back since I use that for my other DSLRs.
Thanks for your feedbacks.