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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: mcfoto on May 31, 2008, 06:41:44 am
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Hi
Just got back from Brisbane at the annual photo show. Spent some time at the L&P stand talking to a
Phase One rep from Denmark. Camera feels really good in the hand & the focus is faster than the AFDII. Looked at lens comparison between the Hasselblad 120 vrs the new 120D Mamiya with an image taken by a Phase back. They were very close & the Mamiya 120D was slightly sharper. By Photokina I heard about the first leaf shutter lens being an 80mm. Also they are coming out with a 45 tilt shift lens that is the same one from Hartblei that will be reworked. This new lens will have software correction with the new Phase software.
Thanks Denis
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Hi
Just got back from Brisbane at the annual photo show. Spent some time at the L&P stand talking to a
Phase One rep from Denmark. Camera feels really good in the hand & the focus is faster than the AFDII. Looked at lens comparison between the Hasselblad 120 vrs the new 120D Mamiya with an image taken by a Phase back. They were very close & the Mamiya 120D was slightly sharper. By Photokina I heard about the first leaf shutter lens being an 80mm. Also they are coming out with a 45 tilt shift lens that is the same one from Hartblei that will be reworked. This new lens will have software correction with the new Phase software.
Thanks Denis
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Hi Denis,
Thanks for the quick preview,
Regarding the first leaf shutter lens being an 80mm did you happen to find out who the european lens maker is ??
Cheers
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Hi Denis,
Thanks for the quick preview,
Regarding the first leaf shutter lens being an 80mm did you happen to find out who the european lens maker is ??
Cheers
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Hi
I asked & I could not find out.
Denis
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That's very interesting news, I hope they will be able to rework the hartblei to professional standard.
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Also they are coming out with a 45 tilt shift lens that is the same one from Hartblei that will be reworked. This new lens will have software correction with the new Phase software.
Thanks Denis
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dang, I wish they would make a 35mm t/s first. Or a 28mm if that would be even possible?
Not that I could afford it, but still...it would be a very attractive kit.
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dang, I wish they would make a 35mm t/s first. Or a 28mm if that would be even possible?
Not that I could afford it, but still...it would be a very attractive kit.
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If this is the standard Harteblei 45mm then the glass isn't the sharpest in the world.
For people, expecially something for that soft view camera look, the 45mm is a great lens, though focus at wide open requires tethering. (at least with my version)
Though I don't shoot products or things that don't move I think the standard 45mm will leave something to be desired.
The 45mm I have has a soft look to it and low contrast but really close it's not Zeiss crisp.
Though to be fair, it's as sharp as any tild shift Canon lens I have used.
JR
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If this is the standard Harteblei 45mm then the glass isn't the sharpest in the world.
For people, expecially something for that soft view camera look, the 45mm is a great lens, though focus at wide open requires tethering. (at least with my version)
Though I don't shoot products or things that don't move I think the standard 45mm will leave something to be desired.
The 45mm I have has a soft look to it and low contrast but really close it's not Zeiss crisp.
Though to be fair, it's as sharp as any tild shift Canon lens I have used.
JR
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Hi James
When I talked to the Phase One rep they said there were going to be three different groups working on this lens including Harteblie. The cost was also going up. i think it will be a wait & see on this one. There just seemed to be a buzz about Phase/Mamiya at the stand with more stuff coming. Even though I don't use Phase they are making things more attractive for MFD including by lowering the price of entry. The open platform also comes across as positive.
Denis
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Hi
Just got back from Brisbane at the annual photo show. Spent some time at the L&P stand talking to a
Phase One rep from Denmark. Camera feels really good in the hand & the focus is faster than the AFDII. Looked at lens comparison between the Hasselblad 120 vrs the new 120D Mamiya with an image taken by a Phase back. They were very close & the Mamiya 120D was slightly sharper. By Photokina I heard about the first leaf shutter lens being an 80mm. Also they are coming out with a 45 tilt shift lens that is the same one from Hartblei that will be reworked. This new lens will have software correction with the new Phase software.
Thanks Denis
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Hi Denis ,
Thanks for the update--dear old uncle Bruce P doing his selling best I presume--Ha!
We have 2 brand new 645AFD11's Plus 2 P45s-one is the latest +I have been snapping over the last few weeks and we have had mixed results with the lenses.
We have on order the new 120D--still MF I gather.
The 80mm seems fine
The 35 mm ditto
The 28MM -well we have had two -one soft on the edges--returned to Mamiya
Our second one did not fire in either body more than once--returned to Mamiya.
I gather from the dealer--Quote-"They have had issues with the 28 MM"
Hope Phase get M to correct these "issues" -as we await lens version #3.
Staring at the assembled RED VID Camera at present --what a heavy beast--as I type this-- gotta get to grip with it next!
Thanks again,
Des W
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Hi James
When I talked to the Phase One rep they said there were going to be three different groups working on this lens including Harteblie. The cost was also going up. i think it will be a wait & see on this one. There just seemed to be a buzz about Phase/Mamiya at the stand with more stuff coming. Even though I don't use Phase they are making things more attractive for MFD including by lowering the price of entry. The open platform also comes across as positive.
Denis
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Thanks Denis,
I don't use the tilt shift much and obviously I use it for it's lack of focus not to focus through the room, though when it's used it's a nice look.
Still, the old Harbelei is a tough lens to work with, as my version is stiff and it really takes a lap top next to you to tell what is in focus.
(http://www.russellrutherford.com/1B/image/usewonderland.original449.jpg)
I hope Phase/Mamiya gets a lot of lenses out there soon, as it really is the glass that makes a difference.
JR