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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: thsinar on March 06, 2008, 10:24:34 am

Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 06, 2008, 10:24:34 am
FYI:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQX4UPkGIlw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQX4UPkGIlw)

Best regards,
Thierry
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: pprdigital on March 06, 2008, 11:01:19 am
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FYI:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQX4UPkGIlw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQX4UPkGIlw)

Best regards,
Thierry
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Ummm, Thierry, I think I saw the photographer just grab the e75 and revolve it without removing it. That was cool. I had to back up the video and go, "Woah, did he just.........Or was I seeing things?

Steve Hendrix
www.ppratlanta.com/digital.php
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 06, 2008, 11:05:39 am
Steve,

I knew that somebody would pick this up!

Yes, this is one of the first revolving adapters. Those are in production, but I haven't any firm availability date, since there are still tests running. It should be however soon and I shall certainly inform.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Ummm, Thierry, I think I saw the photographer just grab the e75 and revolve it without removing it. That was cool. I had to back up the video and go, "Woah, did he just.........Or was I seeing things?

Steve Hendrix
www.ppratlanta.com/digital.php
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Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: paul_jones on March 06, 2008, 01:59:05 pm
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Steve,

I knew that somebody would pick this up!

Yes, this is one of the first revolving adapters. Those are in production, but I haven't any firm availability date, since there are still tests running. It should be however soon and I shall certainly inform.

Best regards,
Thierry
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yay, finally caught up with the RB67!
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: Graham Mitchell on March 06, 2008, 02:01:28 pm
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yay, finally caught up with the RB67!
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Not so fast... I believe Rollei had a rotating 645 film back long ago
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: Carl Glover on March 06, 2008, 02:08:02 pm
A long long time ago.
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: paul_jones on March 06, 2008, 02:22:17 pm
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A long long time ago.
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sorry, i dont know a thing about rollei.

paul
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: BJNY on March 06, 2008, 06:49:02 pm
You think you saw it, Steve?  Are you sure ; )  The act of the back revolving was shown four times (three times too many) in that video.

Now, where are eXposure software, and larger/square sensors?


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Ummm, Thierry, I think I saw the photographer just grab the e75 and revolve it without removing it. That was cool. I had to back up the video and go, "Woah, did he just.........Or was I seeing things?
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: pprdigital on March 06, 2008, 08:35:02 pm
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You think you saw it, Steve?  Are you sure ; )  The act of the back revolving was shown four times (three times too many) in that video.

Now, where are eXposure software, and larger/square sensors?
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I think I just couldn't believe I was actually seeing it. It surprised me to see that it was that far along. Didn't expect that...but pleasantly surprised.

Steve Hendrix
www.ppratlanta.com/digital.php
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 06, 2008, 08:46:03 pm
why so surprised? I did inform long ago that Sinar will produce a revolving adapter and that it should be available in the 1st quarter of 2008.

I see that trust prevails!          

Best regards,
Thierry


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I think I just couldn't believe I was actually seeing it. It surprised me to see that it was that far along. Didn't expect that...but pleasantly surprised.

Steve Hendrix
www.ppratlanta.com/digital.php
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Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 06, 2008, 08:49:23 pm
Billy,

- Exposure: a RC version is to be ready very soon and release is still planed by end of March/begin of April.

- Larger/square sensors: I have nothing to comment/inform about this.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Now, where are eXposure software, and larger/square sensors?
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Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 07, 2008, 04:19:44 am
Addendum to my earlier post about the availability of the revolving adapter: the first batch out of the production are ready and awaiting the green light for the release. This should still be this month.

Best regards,
Thierry
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: BJNY on March 07, 2008, 04:51:00 am
Thierry,
What is the revolving adapter going to cost as compared to a regular eMotion interface plate?
Is there a button/lock to push before being able to revolve the digital back?
Thanks for all the answers,
Billy
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 07, 2008, 05:10:13 am
Sorry Billy, I can't give any price as per now: these will be communicated by the distributors in their respective country.

It does not need  to release a lock or push a button to revolve, and there is a click-stop when in place.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Thierry,
What is the revolving adapter going to cost as compared to a regular eMotion interface plate?
Is there a button/lock to push before being able to revolve the digital back?
Thanks for all the answers,
Billy
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Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: BJNY on March 07, 2008, 06:58:46 am
Thierry,
In the YouTube video, the eMotion digital back is shown revolving only with the waist level finder.
Does it revolve with the 90degree porro finder?
Billy
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 07, 2008, 08:30:53 am
Billy,

This revolving adapter can be used (and does revolve) with the 90° and 45° finders.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Thierry,
In the YouTube video, the eMotion digital back is shown revolving only with the waist level finder.
Does it revolve with the 90degree porro finder?
Billy
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Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: samuel_js on March 07, 2008, 03:53:30 pm
Thierry, this camera is gorgeous! It's a shame i can't buy it even if a want... Explanation:

About a year ago, I contacted the Sinar (and Leaf) dealer in Sweden (www.molanders.se) about the Hy6. I was very interested in the camera. I wrote my impressions in this thread (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14801&hl=sinar+dealer) and after a few days they just decided not to informe me of anything. They never gave me any information about the system or prices so at last I ended up with a H2 and a Phase One back. I was really dissapointed.
Now, one year after, I contacted them again (three days ago) showing my interest
in buying an Hy6. Just told them, give me the prices please? I have my stuff for sale for God's sake! And you know what? NOT A SINGLE WORD!!! They shoud be ashamed. Some one from Sinar need to go out and kick some ass...
Just for the record, I contacted F&H too. In the first email they gave me the price. Then I asked a few more questions and they stopped responding. Don't want to sell a camera either? Fine, I supoose I'll end up with the PhaseOne camera. No problem at all.  

/Samuel
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: Graham Mitchell on March 07, 2008, 05:33:57 pm
Samuel, I also had problems with Molanders. Fortuantely there are other dealers who can help. Complaining to Sinar can only help to improve the dealer network. They can't know if the customers never give feedback.
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: Morgan_Moore on March 07, 2008, 05:44:32 pm
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Samuel, I also had problems with Molanders. Fortuantely there are other dealers who can help. Complaining to Sinar can only help to improve the dealer network. They can't know if the customers never give feedback.
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The UK suppliers havent tried to sell me an Hy6 yet or offered me a trade package on my H kit or sent me a leaflet or any prices or any e-mails (or Hy6 keyrings (thank god))

I get offers in the post to extend the warantees on toasters I threw away years ago from thier makers

Sinar must know who I am because they rang me up to ask me what seriel number back they had just sold me was

Chaos IMO

S
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: Carl Glover on March 07, 2008, 07:00:24 pm
I've got a Hy6 body and adapter turning up next week (hurrah). I'll have a chat about your experiences with my Sinar rep as I find it rather disturbing.

If I don't respond to calls from my clients I deserve what will inevitably happen...
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 07, 2008, 07:59:08 pm
Dear Samuel,

This is strange: how and who did you contact them? Did you try by contacting Niklas Blyberg?

I have informed the responsible sales responsible at Sinar.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Thierry, this camera is gorgeous! It's a shame i can't buy it even if a want... Explanation:

About a year ago, I contacted the Sinar (and Leaf) dealer in Sweden (www.molanders.se) about the Hy6. I was very interested in the camera. I wrote my impressions in this thread (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14801&hl=sinar+dealer) and after a few days they just decided not to informe me of anything. They never gave me any information about the system or prices so at last I ended up with a H2 and a Phase One back. I was really dissapointed.
Now, one year after, I contacted them again (three days ago) showing my interest
in buying an Hy6. Just told them, give me the prices please? I have my stuff for sale for God's sake! And you know what? NOT A SINGLE WORD!!! They shoud be ashamed. Some one from Sinar need to go out and kick some ass...
Just for the record, I contacted F&H too. In the first email they gave me the price. Then I asked a few more questions and they stopped responding. Don't want to sell a camera either? Fine, I supoose I'll end up with the PhaseOne camera. No problem at all.   

/Samuel
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Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: BJNY on March 08, 2008, 01:55:41 pm
Thierry,
Would you please post JPEGs of how the very final versions of the 45 & 90 degree finders look like?
Thanks in advance,
Billy

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Billy,

This revolving adapter can be used (and does revolve) with the 90° and 45° finders.

Best regards,
Thierry
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Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: pprdigital on March 08, 2008, 05:11:15 pm
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Thierry,
Would you please post JPEGs of how the very final versions of the 45 & 90 degree finders look like?
Thanks in advance,
Billy
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My understanding is that the 45 degree is the same 45 degree that went on the 6000 series, except the bottom plate has been modified to fit the Hy6. So, if you've seen one of those, you've basically seen it. Oh, except for that wonderful Sinar slate grey/black color scheme....  

Steve Hendrix
www.ppratlanta.com/digital.php
Title: Sinar Hy6 System
Post by: thsinar on March 08, 2008, 08:25:26 pm
Here a jpg. with the 90° prism finder. I don't have any image yet with the 45° finder.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Thierry,
Would you please post JPEGs of how the very final versions of the 45 & 90 degree finders look like?
Thanks in advance,
Billy
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