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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: John Hollenberg on December 30, 2007, 11:57:46 am

Title: Wilhelm Research Ratings for Canon PIXMA Pro 9500
Post by: John Hollenberg on December 30, 2007, 11:57:46 am
Wilhelm has finally published results for a Canon printer, the PIXMA Pro 9500.  Only two papers tested, approximately 100 years under glass.  Figures for B&W are very good at over 300 years:

http://wilhelm-research.com/canon/9500.html (http://wilhelm-research.com/canon/9500.html)

No data on iPF printers, but this is at least a start.

--John
Title: Wilhelm Research Ratings for Canon PIXMA Pro 9500
Post by: jpegman on December 30, 2007, 12:31:49 pm
What are you smoking John - B&W only VERY GOOD at 300 years?
Title: Wilhelm Research Ratings for Canon PIXMA Pro 9500
Post by: DougMorgan on December 30, 2007, 01:08:16 pm
Excellent results and I hope they carry over to the ipf series.  

I don't understand leading off with this printer though -- I thought it was a dye printer based on the model number.

I do wish they'd use more standard papers for comparison.  Take plain old photo rag (not a special HP version) for the art paper, for example.    A non-denominational luster/semi gloss paper gets more difficult as I think Epson's luster is probably the most commonly used but how about Ilford's smooth pearl?   I don't know anyone that would prefer Canon's semigloss over either of these.    Might be interesting to try and isolate the comparison to just the inks, for all the brands/models.

Reading the fine print you kind of wonder why Kodak even bothers anymore.  

Doug
Title: Wilhelm Research Ratings for Canon PIXMA Pro 9500
Post by: John Hollenberg on December 30, 2007, 02:16:16 pm
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What are you smoking John - B&W only VERY GOOD at 300 years?
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OK, they are merely good.  Sorry for the excess brand loyalty    

PS They would be more impressive if the results were for the iPF printers and on a number of different papers.  Also note that these results are not superior to other printers for B&W.  Epson 9880 has 100-400 years depending on the paper.  Apparently B&W print life is not too much of an issue anymore.

--John
Title: Wilhelm Research Ratings for Canon PIXMA Pro 9500
Post by: John Hollenberg on December 30, 2007, 02:29:56 pm
There is a very interesting post on DP Review regarding fading and methods of testing.  The author suggests that single endpoint results may not give the best information to consumers:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=26223634 (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=26223634)

--John