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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: billy on December 16, 2007, 06:34:22 pm
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just checking, anyone hear if the rollei version is available and if it will work with my Phase P21?
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just checking, anyone hear if the rollei version is available and if it will work with my Phase P21?
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No news on the Hy6: Phase interface, but has anyone else heard a rumor about Phase supporting the Rollei 6008?
That would seem to go along with the (almost invisible) Rollei-Metric, that is now available with the P20, P25 and P45 backs.
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Here we go again :rolls eyes:
Must we?
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Here we go again :rolls eyes:
Must we?
sorry if i offended your superior knowledge, i just want to buy a camera, if you dont know any news then just dont post. anyone else out there know anything?
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You've overlooked several multi-page threads on exactly this subject. Did you even bother to look over the last few weeks' threads, or use the search?
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just checking, anyone hear if the rollei version is available and if it will work with my Phase P21?
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Hi
This is a camera for Sinar & Leaf only.
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sorry if i offended your superior knowledge
You've stepped into the middle of a religious war that's been raging on this forum for months now.
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so before we ask a question your supposed to search for previous entries? why dont the people that are so weird about this just not reply/post, take a chill pill.
You've overlooked several multi-page threads on exactly this subject. Did you even bother to look over the last few weeks' threads, or use the search?
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so before we ask a question your supposed to search for previous entries?
That's only standard netiquette on every forum on the internet, as it saves people the hassle and annoyance of answering the exact same question 50 times a day. To learn more about this novel concept, watch Posting And You (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting).
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No Comment.
hehe.
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Dude, you are right up there with Ray.
If they want to come here, ask a valid question, with genuine interest, no harm.
Perhaps since the last time this was discussed, there just might actually be new info.
We just had a local full day demo of these cameras, Sinar Hy6 and AFi. So I am all for any new info or experience someone may have. The AFi is quite a camera. Talking about one might help spur info for another since they are all linked, at least more so that other cameras.
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yeah right on John, thats what I was getting at. just want to see if there is any new info. cant believe how snobby some of the the previuous posts were.
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Forums are for asking questions.
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just checking, anyone hear if the rollei version is available and if it will work with my Phase P21?
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What is the big deal, if somebody knows or if it is possible at all, let us help because many of us would love to use the opportunity and the advantage of better lenses, faster shutter, etc.
Perhaps some third party company can do it or else.............
Let's stay positive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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just checking, anyone hear if the rollei version is available and if it will work with my Phase P21?
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Hi Billy, see [a href=\"http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21001]this thread.[/url] and maybe this one (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20261) too. There's a lot of information there...
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Forums are for asking questions.
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I'd say, forums are for asking questions - but to ask *that question, here* one should come dressed in one's best flame-retardant tuxedo
hehehehehe.
Edmund
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Dude, you are right up there with Ray.
If they want to come here, ask a valid question, with genuine interest, no harm.
Perhaps since the last time this was discussed, there just might actually be new info.
Billy obviously hasn't bothered to read the recent multi-page threads (he actually started this one (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21001), BTW) where this exact question was endlessly discussed, debated, speculated upon, rehashed, and then discussed and debated some more. And given your reply, you probably have not either. It's highly likely that if there was any new information that it would have been posted already by Thierry or one of the other company reps that frequent here who have reliable and accurate information.
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It's highly likely that if there was any new information that it would have been posted already by Thierry or one of the other company reps that frequent here who have reliable and accurate information.
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Well, now that is an interesting matter for debate :
- Are reps informed or are thet kept in the dark and fed ... ?
- Would a rep who knows about timing find it useful to publicize it ?
Edmund
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Billy obviously hasn't bothered to read the recent multi-page threads (he actually started this one (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21001), BTW) where this exact question was endlessly discussed, debated, speculated upon, rehashed, and then discussed and debated some more. And given your reply, you probably have not either. It's highly likely that if there was any new information that it would have been posted already by Thierry or one of the other company reps that frequent here who have reliable and accurate information.
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What your problem guys? This is an open forum and people is free to ask whatever they want how many times they want. You're acting like moderator aspirants here...
If you've got no answers the best thing you can do is to move on instead of hijacking threads with your philosophies. Sorry for being rude
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my little cent to the "debate" (no, I am not tired about!)
- as far as I am concerned and in relation to this subject at least: yes, I am informed.
- it is much "likely" that the answer to the question on the subject will not change, as far as Jenoptik/Sinar are concerned.
Best regards,
Thierry
Well, now that is an interesting matter for debate :
- Are reps informed or are thet kept in the dark and fed ... ?
- Would a rep who knows about timing find it useful to publicize it ?
Edmund
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deleted - redundant.
Edmund
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Rollei Hy6 available with Phase back?
This is probably a rhetorical question, like children ask when traveling on a family holly day... are we there yet?
We should enjoy this exiting days of entire systems dieing and others racing up to occupy their place.
For some, the entire MF field is an endangered species, encroached by the relentless increase pixel / bit-depth smaller format offerings.
I would personally hold the commitment to a MF system until Q-1 08 when the concept of a Phase open system will be announced and all the H6Y will be coming out of the pipeline.
The world as we knew it fell apart when the marriage between the most popular camera (Hasselblad) and the most popular back (Phase) ended up in separation. This created a scramble that will start to result in new marriages precisely in or around Q-1 08...
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so before we ask a question your supposed to search for previous entries? why dont the people that are so weird about this just not reply/post, take a chill pill.
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Yes you are.
Even on the, web civil responsibility is important. It is because the more we duplicate information in a non efficient way, the more seach engines have a difficult time identifiying the right information sources, which will within a few years pretty much kill the interest of internet as a queryable information repository.
If you don't do it for yourself, do it for your children and spread the word out there, please.
Cheers,
Bernard
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- it is much "likely" that the answer to the question on the subject will not change, as far as Jenoptik/Sinar are concerned.
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Thierry,
Whatever the reason (and who is to blame), you should be aware that this pretty much makes the Hy6 platform a non option for many people out there.
This might be a sound business decision nonetheless, but one that focusses then on a sub-set of an already small niche market.
I would personnally think that building a (mostly) closed system from scratch these days isn't too smart from a strategical standpoint, but you guys probably know better.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Yes you are.
Even on the, web civil responsibility is important. It is because the more we duplicate information in a non efficient way, the more seach engines have a difficult time identifiying the right information sources, which will within a few years pretty much kill the interest of internet as a queryable information repository.
If you don't do it for yourself, do it for your children and spread the word out there, please.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Talking about chill pills
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The question is valid.
Hasselblad shot the door to Phase, Leaf, Sinar and all.
Sinar and Leaf made a new system for their backs.
Phase just announced that they are making a "Phase Camera" that is open,
Probably Phase means that the front part of the system is open, meaning lenses that are Mamiya mount and "other European manufacturer".
This probably means that they want to go head to head with the Hy6 and Hasselblad that are going to be -- just guessing here -- Phase One incompatible.
What could be interesting is to see a Hy6 Rollei compatible with Phase One AND Hy6 optics... After all Rollei doesn't have back of their own, I think.
So it is out of Sinar control to announce or not the availability of Phase One backs on the Hy6.
I think that if there was going to be a Hy6/Phase back it would have been announced by now.
So, valid question, not "more [we] duplicate information in a non efficient way"
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And since no announcements have been made by any of the companies involved in this theoretical camera/back combination, there's nothing that can be said in this thread that hasn't already been speculated, discussed, misconstrued, debated, and rehashed ad nauseum in the other two multi-page threads on this same subject. Shall we just cut and paste those threads here and get it over with?
Hasselblad has gone to a closed system.
Leaf & Sinar have the Hy6/Rollei platform, also closed to outside players.
Phase and Mamiya have something in the works but haven't released details yet.
Everything else is wishful thinking, rumor-mongering, and speculation at this point.
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This is what Phase has to say -- or not to say or stop from doing so -- about the a Phase back for the Hy6 or about a Sinar, Leaf or ZD back going in to the new Phase body...
Hello
It is not as simple as that, it is much more political at the moment.
I can nor confirm or disconfirm if there will be a Hy6 combo. I do know that Phase One certainly wants to produce and support this new camera, more information then this I can not give at current moment.
When it comes to the Phase One camera it will be using a open interface. The very same as the Mamiya 645AFDII. So any competitors back that work with AFDII should work on our new camera.
Now that is what I call open interface!
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Kind Regards
Ulf Liljegren
Phase One