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Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Sune Wendelboe on December 04, 2007, 03:22:47 pm
Dear LL readers - do check this out before continuing.

If as I you're a frequent reader and have been for several years,and if you're considering testing the relationship with LL by buying from this site - LLVJ or similar - do read the communication below - still unresolved - and still UNREPLIED from LL-shop :-(

Sincerely
Sune Wendelboe

I don't care about the money, but I feel that LL has abused my faith in them.

Michael ?



Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007
 
 Hi.
 
 As I'm sure you remember I complained about the purchase as below.
 
I'm still locked out from downloading my files from your web pages all though I can see the amount has been withdrawm from my bank account.
I'm sure this small matter is a mistake, otherwise I will of course take things further, not with you but with your internet banking providers. I fully expect you to resolve this matter within 48 hours.

Quote from my bank account:

"deleted for this forum post"

Sincerely
Sune Wendelboe
www.globalphotograpic.net
- Still a frequent reader
  ________________________________
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Download time out after purchase
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:49:03 +0000

Hi.
 
Last night around 8pm GMT I bought:
 Lightroom v.1 + v.1.1 Tutorial, LLVJ 15 COMBO - Hi-Res
 
at 25$, when I began to download  there was a time out after I'd downloaded the two first files.
 
Now a can't login to my account again, I also didn't receive a receipt for purchasing. I could've misspelled the mailadresse when I created the account at time of purchase.
 
The purchase was done using a VISA card, details are:
 
Sune Wendelboe
Primulavej 7
Frederikssund
3600
Denmark

Company: globalphotographic.net
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: bob mccarthy on December 04, 2007, 03:37:31 pm
Don't know what the problem is, but I've been buying from them for a few years now (DVD - LL), and have made a download purchase of the camera to print videos.

Use a few cell phone minutes and call them. Who knows what the problem is, but they will surely make it right.

Raking them over the coals publicly is not a nice thing to do in my opinion.

Bob
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: michael on December 04, 2007, 05:38:19 pm
What do you mean, "Money has been withdrawn from my back account"?

We do no such thing. We only accept credit cards.

Have you written to customer service? What was their reply?

Dozens of people a day, day in a day out, year after year purchase DVDs, downloads, books, prints , portfolios and seminars from our site. We have many thousands of satisfied customers, and when someone is not happy we immediately try and solve the problem or refund their money.

Seems to me like you either aren't sure what you're doing or are simply a shit disturber.

Contact us in the normal manner and we'll solve your problem, if indeed there is one.

Michael
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Kagetsu on December 04, 2007, 05:39:20 pm
Deleted. Sorry Michael.
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on December 04, 2007, 11:11:12 pm
Hi Sune

I can see your purchase in our webstore and also the fact that you have never logged in to download it...

I do not have access to your password, but the registered email for your account is
[email protected].

We have replied to your email to that address, so if it was incorrect, that would account for the fact that you have not received a reply.

Try logging in with that address and download your files. You always have the option of revising your email address once you have logged in.

Please let us know if you have further problems

Kind regards,

Luminous Landscape Customer Service
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on December 04, 2007, 11:15:43 pm
And this email I just received:

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This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    [email protected]

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 16): 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a globalphotographic.net account ([email protected])
  • - mta121.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Perhaps you may care to edit the word 'Fraud' from the title of your thread and replace it with the word 'typo'  
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Andy M on December 05, 2007, 12:33:27 am
Possibly try: [email protected] ?
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Schewe on December 05, 2007, 01:27:22 am
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I could've misspelled the mailadresse when I created the account at time of purchase.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=158211\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


So, you figure that might just be a little problem here? You MIGHT have misspelled the email address when you ordered? And, you are surprised that you might not have received an email answer in reply?

DOH....

You sure gotta a set of balls on you....
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on December 05, 2007, 01:31:33 am
I think Sune forgot to add the correct option in the topic subtitle:

User Error
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Sune Wendelboe on December 05, 2007, 02:20:33 am
This evening I've been contacted by the customer service, and they've resolved the matter.


Sune
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Marlyn on December 05, 2007, 06:15:34 am
Most common IT support category applies:  PEBKAC


Disapointing someone would choose to ridicule what I've found to be excellent service (as a rampant buyer of most things off this site !)  without thinking it through a bit more.
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: shootergirl on December 05, 2007, 07:50:12 am
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This evening I've been contacted by the customer service, and they've resolved the matter.
Sune
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I really hate to fuel the fire, but I think that Michael and Chris deserve a better response than this in this thread. I think an apology is in order. I have had nothing but good experiences in dealing with this site and I hate to see someone use the word "fraud" when the problem was apparently due to their own error.

Just my 2¢. Well, with the value of the American dollar the way it is, maybe it's down to 1¢ now.  

Donna
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Craig Arnold on December 05, 2007, 08:16:18 am
It's certainly possible for anyone to get on their high-horse and complain.

But once you realise that it was your own fault you climb off your high-horse and apologise properly.

At a minimum that's what any decent person would do; to stop short of that is to behave like a sulking child.

But the world is full of such people. *shrug*
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: ashdavid on December 05, 2007, 09:24:22 am
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It's certainly possible for anyone to get on their high-horse and complain.

But once you realise that it was your own fault you climb off your high-horse and apologise properly.

At a minimum that's what any decent person would do; to stop short of that is to behave like a sulking child.

But the world is full of such people. *shrug*
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Yeah but.... some people feel it is there right to shift the blame onto others.  A good well thought out apology is in order if it were me, but....
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Mort54 on December 05, 2007, 10:54:04 am
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This evening I've been contacted by the customer service, and they've resolved the matter.
Sune
Maybe a public apology would be in order, since it seems the error was on your part.
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: djgarcia on December 05, 2007, 01:01:39 pm
I think public flogging might be appropriate  ...
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: bob mccarthy on December 05, 2007, 02:38:01 pm
Geezzz, you guys are piling on so hard

I'm feeling sorry for the perp..



For those who don't watch American crime dramas

The term perp walk is an American slang term which refers to the police practice of intentionally parading an arrested suspect (or "perp", short for "alleged perpetrator") through a public place so that the media may observe and record the event. The suspect is typically handcuffed or otherwise restrained, and is often dressed in prison garb.

Bob
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: ErikKaffehr on December 05, 2007, 03:13:57 pm
Second that!

Erik

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I really hate to fuel the fire, but I think that Michael and Chris deserve a better response than this in this thread. I think an apology is in order. I have had nothing but good experiences in dealing with this site and I hate to see someone use the word "fraud" when the problem was apparently due to their own error.

Just my 2¢. Well, with the value of the American dollar the way it is, maybe it's down to 1¢ now.   

Donna
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Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: thomas517 on December 05, 2007, 04:20:22 pm
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Second that!

Erik
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Sune,
  Maybe it's time you switch to DE-CAF,you do drink coffee don't you?
Yes,An apology is in order.
Michael and the LL staff, are always on top of correcting any issue/problems that might arise...even when it's from user error.



Thomas
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Don Libby on December 05, 2007, 05:00:08 pm
It never ceases to amaze me who those same individuals that bitch and complain about things run for the shadows once the light of truth has been turned on ….

If you are man/woman enough to post a message accusing fraud then you should have an equal amount of hutpitz to say you’re wrong and apologize (DAM IT!)


don
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: kaelaria on December 05, 2007, 05:31:12 pm
Mr. Dumbass won't be back

But it's funny when they do it to themselves for all to see!
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: feppe on December 05, 2007, 05:52:13 pm
Oh, man, I needed the laugh. "amin"?
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: John Camp on December 05, 2007, 06:37:06 pm
I think we could deep-six this thread without losing much.


JC
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: Josh-H on December 05, 2007, 10:36:14 pm
Two things went wrong here: and the first caused the second.

1. The OP should have investigated further before making his problem public, which could have been done in less than a minute via email to LL.  The OP is at fault for making something public, which should not have been. It should have been sorted between him/her and LL.

2. Everyone else has taken  the opportunity and dished out on him/her to such an extent that I doubt he/she will be back. Even if it is their fault [and it appears it is]
it is it is too easy on the internet for people to poke criticism both ways from the safety of their keyboard with little thought to the persons they are critiising in a public space.

I hope the OP learnt their lesson and I hope they enjoy their purchase and download from a great resource.

Edit - its probably best for all the parties concerened if this thread is deleted so the OP can move on since the issue has clearly been resolved.
Title: LL readers, check this out before puhasing from LL
Post by: michael on December 05, 2007, 11:46:12 pm
This thread is now closed.

Michael