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Equipment & Techniques => Digital Cameras & Shooting Techniques => Topic started by: acorreia on July 26, 2007, 04:39:10 am
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[span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']How I did it[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']In this table (http://www.dofmaster.com/doftable.html) I have choosen my camera, my lens and my distance (I use meters of course).[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Consulting the table, I could see that[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']if I set a distance of 1 meter in the lens and
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']if I use f/22 that would give me a depth of field between 0.38 and infinity.
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Then, I measured the distance with na instrument like a tape or whatever, between the sensor plain/layer/surface to a target which was 1 meter away.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I target the central point of the focusing screen to that point and focus.[/span]
- I switch off the auto focus from the lens.[/span]
- I set the aperture at f/22[/span]
- I compose the scene[/SIZE]
- I placed an object at 40 cms (40 cms = 0.40 meter)[/SIZE]
- I now have the object and infinity in focus.[/SIZE]
- I didn’t care with the speed, or I do and have to think the hole thing over again.[/SIZE]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']If I had too much light I would have used the NDF and/or the CPF.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I used flash because now I am a maniac of this kind of light, which is gorgeous (http://strobist.blogspot.com/) as you can see here in my photos (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=66367) and here (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=64619).[/span]
[span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Next photo I want to do – if I got the time because my sun asked to go and shoot kitesurf again tomorrow evenning – will be envolving 3 planes/surfaces/areas:[/span]- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Near the lights of the car - 0.83 cms
- Medium distance the car door or so - 1.26 m
- Far distance, like the street.[/span]
At f/2.8 the 16mm with the lens focused to 1 meter will give me sharpness from 0.83 to 1.26 – the street at the far end will be out of focus and so will be the main lights.
How about this ?
Tell me !
(http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/176949873-L.jpg)
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[span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']How I did it[/span]- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']In this table (http://www.dofmaster.com/doftable.html) I have choosen my camera, my lens and my distance (I use meters of course).[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Consulting the table, I could see that[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']if I set a distance of 1 meter in the lens and
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']if I use f/22 that would give me a depth of field between 0.38 and infinity.
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Then, I measured the distance with na instrument like a tape or whatever, between the sensor plain/layer/surface to a target which was 1 meter away.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I target the central point of the focusing screen to that point and focus.[/span]
- I switch off the auto focus from the lens.[/span]
- I set the aperture at f/22[/span]
- I compose the scene[/SIZE]
- I placed an object at 40 cms (40 cms = 0.40 meter)[/SIZE]
- I now have the object and infinity in focus.[/SIZE]
- I didn’t care with the speed, or I do and have to think the hole thing over again.[/SIZE]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']If I had too much light I would have used the NDF and/or the CPF.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I used flash because now I am a maniac of this kind of light, which is gorgeous (http://strobist.blogspot.com/) as you can see here in my photos (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=66367) and here (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=64619).[/span]
[span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Next photo I want to do – if I got the time because my sun asked to go and shoot kitesurf again tomorrow evenning – will be envolving 3 planes/surfaces/areas:[/span]- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Near the lights of the car - 0.83 cms
- Medium distance the car door or so - 1.26 m
- Far distance, like the street.[/span]
At f/2.8 the 16mm with the lens focused to 1 meter will give me sharpness from 0.83 to 1.26 – the street at the far end will be out of focus and so will be the main lights.
How about this ?
Tell me !
(http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/176949873-L.jpg)
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Depend on the print size you will get different perspective of depth, the larger you print, the out-of-focus becomes more visible. The best solution is a camera with swing control or just use Helico Focus software to merge pictures of different focus. For digital capture, you may not get clear/sharp picture when the f stops down too much.
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Depend on the print size you will get different perspective of depth, the larger you print, the out-of-focus becomes more visible. The best solution is a camera with swing control or just use Helico Focus software to merge pictures of different focus. For digital capture, you may not get clear/sharp picture when the f stops down too much.
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You do know that DOF has an intimate connection with CoC.
The thing here is: Do it KISS (Keep It Simple and Short).
This photo is from an assignment here. [a href=\"http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=66970]http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=66970[/url]
Thank for commenting.
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At f/2.8 the 16mm with the lens focused to 1 meter will give me sharpness from 0.83 to 1.26 – the street at the far end will be out of focus and so will be the main lights.
How about this ?
Tell me !
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What's the actual question??? How do you get everything appearing sharp, or??? The simple answer is.... stop down. Looks like f/16 would do it....
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What's the actual question??? How do you get everything appearing sharp, or??? The simple answer is.... stop down. Looks like f/16 would do it....
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The actual question is to get a sharp picture from 0,92 cms to infinty and prove it
Or from 0,63 m to 2,41m and prove it
Visualy
This table is useful
Sorry too small !
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Welcome to photography??
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Welcome to photography??
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Excuse me ??!! ...
I'm not getting what you mean. Sorry
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Excuse me ??!! ...
I'm not getting what you mean. Sorry
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Antonio -
Your post is taken from another board that you've been posting in...Now that I've read that thread I understand what is going on. Your post here doesn't make much sense taken out of context.
People here are just wondering if you have a question or not? It seems you are just trying to explain how you achieved a large DOF with this shot using an online calculator. If so that's fine - although you should write something at the top of the post that states this.
jdv
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Antonio -
Your post is taken from another board that you've been posting in...Now that I've read that thread I understand what is going on. Your post here doesn't make much sense taken out of context.
People here are just wondering if you have a question or not? It seems you are just trying to explain how you achieved a large DOF with this shot using an online calculator. If so that's fine - although you should write something at the top of the post that states this.
jdv
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OK I accept the critique and I will try to do something better next time.
However, I see no harm in posting the same subject in different foruns.
It's kind of curious: always different points of view.
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OK I accept the critique and I will try to do something better next time.
However, I see no harm in posting the same subject in different foruns.
It's kind of curious: always different points of view.
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Antonio -
It's not that you posted in different forums, it's that at the end of you post, you ask the question
"How about this ?
Tell me !"
I think it boils down more to a language barrier more than anything else. If the top of your post said - "Here's a shot I took to demonstrate extreme DOF." There would not be anyone wondering whether or not you had a problem. People were wondering if you were looking for help and since they don't have the background about why you were posting this image they were a bit confused.
jdv
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Antonio -
It's not that you posted in different forums, it's that at the end of you post, you ask the question
"How about this ?
Tell me !"
I think it boils down more to a language barrier more than anything else. If the top of your post said - "Here's a shot I took to demonstrate extreme DOF." There would not be anyone wondering whether or not you had a problem. People were wondering if you were looking for help and since they don't have the background about why you were posting this image they were a bit confused.
jdv
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OK OK.
May be also a question of culture ?!
I mean my problem not yours ...
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Antonio,
Thanks for posting this work flow. It's something that one could figure out if thought about for a bit, but having the step by step is a real time saver. I printed it out and is in my notebook. Also thanks for the link.
Regards,
Jim
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Antonio,
Thanks for posting this work flow. It's something that one could figure out if thought about for a bit, but having the step by step is a real time saver. I printed it out and is in my notebook. Also thanks for the link.
Regards,
Jim
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Thank you Jim.
I have re-writen the work flow, trying to correct what I think it was wronge.
Here is the final text. I hope you find this better than before.
[span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']How I did it[/span]- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']In this [a href=\"http://www.dofmaster.com/doftable.html]table[/url] I have choosen my camera, my lens and my distance (I use meters of course).[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Consulting the table, I could see that[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']if I set a distance of 1 meter on the lens and[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']if I use f/22 that would return me a depth of field between 0.38m and infinity.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']Then, I measured the distance with an instrument like a tape or whatever, between the sensor plain/layer/surface and the target (which was 1 meter away).[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I targeted the central point of the camera to that point and focused with AF (Auto Focus) On.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I switched off the AF.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I set the camera on Aperture priority and I set the aperture at f/22[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I composed the scene[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I placed an object at 40 cms (40 cms = 0.40 meter)[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I now have the object and the infinity in focus.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I didn’t care about the speed.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']If I had too much light I would have used the NDF and/or the CPF.[/span]
- [span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\']I used flash because now I am a maniac of this kind of light, which is gorgeous (http://strobist.blogspot.com/) as you can see here in my photos (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=66367) and here (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=64619).[/span]
I didn't care about diffraction (http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm) either !
Lots of infos about this subject here (http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials.htm).
0.38 centimeters = 0.013 feet/0,150 inches - 0.40 centimeters = 0.0131 feet/0,157 inches - 1 meter = 3.281 feet/39.370 inches
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