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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: natas on May 01, 2007, 12:37:19 am
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Ok, either my monitor is way off, or my printer is. I followed the directions on how to print in PS using profiles to the T and my results looks much different then what they do on the monitor. So, my guess is that my monitor calibration by eye was terrible
However, I am a little hesitant on spending so much just for calibration. My monitor is only 2 months old and is a Gateway 19 inch FPD1975W. Should I invest in something better, or will the monitor calibration be worth it?
The problems I see so far are in color. What prints out and I believe should be purple looks blue on the screen....so far thats the only real big difference I saw. But this flower picture I took is all purple and seeing it on screen the way it was looked weird. Would monitor calibration fix this?
And just a fyi, I need something that can be easy to use. I am actually red/green color blind so this could even be the issue
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EyeOne Display 2 is the current standard product. A cheaper version is sold under the Pantone label:
http://www.amazon.com/Pantone-Eye-One-Disp...78013485&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Pantone-Eye-One-Display-Calibrator-MEU102/dp/B000CR78CE/ref=sr_1_2/002-7536927-0046420?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1178013485&sr=8-2)
Edmund
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I recently purchased the Eye One Display 2 based on recommendations/postings here and other
forums and have been quite happy with the initial results. There are two modes -- easy and
advanced so you can start with easy and get a pretty good profile without much effort.
Later you can try the advanced.
I got much better prints just using the easy mode.
One caveat if you are using windows, the software appears to be a port of an Apple application
so you'll have to stay focused while using it.
Best of luck.
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I recently purchased the Eye One Display 2 based on recommendations/postings here and other
forums and have been quite happy with the initial results. There are two modes -- easy and
advanced so you can start with easy and get a pretty good profile without much effort.
Later you can try the advanced.
I got much better prints just using the easy mode.
One caveat if you are using windows, the software appears to be a port of an Apple application
so you'll have to stay focused while using it.
Best of luck.
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One can buy advanced add-on software which works with the Eyeone hardware. ColorEyes and BasicColor are the product names. Both are marketed by small companies, have free fully functional demos and "real live person" support.
I would recommend that anyone who purchases the EyeOne also have a look at these complements. In digital, the quality of what you see is crucial.
Edmund
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One can buy advanced add-on software which works with the Eyeone hardware. ColorEyes and BasicColor are the product names. Both are marketed by small companies, have free fully functional demos and "real live person" support.
I would recommend that anyone who purchases the EyeOne also have a look at these complements. In digital, the quality of what you see is crucial.
Edmund
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Thanks, Edmund. Actually, I was told about the Basiccolor SW when I purchased the
Eye One.
I also emailed tech support at Xrite and the rep indicated they may be improving the
software package soon.
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One can buy advanced add-on software which works with the Eyeone hardware. ColorEyes and BasicColor are the product names. Both are marketed by small companies, have free fully functional demos and "real live person" support.
I would recommend that anyone who purchases the EyeOne also have a look at these complements. In digital, the quality of what you see is crucial.
Edmund
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Hi, Edmund
I also just bought the Eye-One Display 2 (from X-rite, as the lable Gretag Macbeth wasn't available at B&H).
Is that faulty advanced mode, that gives lesser quality calibration, also an issue with the apple software?
Should I just do my first calibration (I haven't received the unit yet) in easy mode, and wait for the X-rite upgrade of the advanced software?
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Hi, Edmund
I also just bought the Eye-One Display 2 (from X-rite, as the lable Gretag Macbeth wasn't available at B&H).
Is that faulty advanced mode, that gives lesser quality calibration, also an issue with the apple software?
Should I just do my first calibration (I haven't received the unit yet) in easy mode, and wait for the X-rite upgrade of the advanced software?
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If you are referring to my comments, I'd like to clarify them.
When I said I get much better prints just using the easy mode I
was comparing that with no profile at all because the OP was asking
if they should buy one of these packages and how hard it would
be to use.
Second, in my opinion the user interface could be a bit more
polished BUT the results I got were excellent with the packaged
software.
To be specific, the tech support at Xrite (very responsive) said that, for example, the flash
tutorial was scheduled for an upgrade.
Sorry if I contributed to any confusion.
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My monitor is only 2 months old
Before spending money I suggest to verify your color management settings.
It's strange the purple<->blue.
A monitor profile may be required, but a printer profile may be required too.
Anyway I repeat: first of all verify your color management settings.
Jacopo
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I used Integrated Color's Color Eyes Display ( I think thats the official name) and their bundled calibrator with great success. I have an old Lacie that it managed to pull back into line. I calibrate about once every 2 months, though I should do more.
Surprisingly to me my Dell Laptop calibrates well except for some error in the shadows. The color seems to be dead one, but I still prefer CRTs.
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Hi,
I have the Pantone Eye-One with the 14-day Basiccolor trial, and am endeavoring to use it with my notebook to create a monitor profile for use with Photoshop for photo editing and graphic design. The trouble is that I have no idea what I'm doing:)
I've created the preset profiles, but I'd really appreciate any insight on how to tweak the settings for my notebook, a Dell Inspiron 9300 w/ WXGA monitor. I realize it's a shot in the dark, but the last poster mentioned owning a Dell notebook. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Hi, Edmund
I also just bought the Eye-One Display 2 (from X-rite, as the lable Gretag Macbeth wasn't available at B&H).
Is that faulty advanced mode, that gives lesser quality calibration, also an issue with the apple software?
Should I just do my first calibration (I haven't received the unit yet) in easy mode, and wait for the X-rite upgrade of the advanced software?
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Gretag was purchased by Xrite. So everything they make is now branded Xrite.
As far as I know, there is no "faulty" mode in any of the current Xrite software. Everything works ok, and upgrades are free off the Xrite site. Easy mode is probably more than good enough for anyone starting out.
I recommend the BasicColor (Germany) and ColorEyes (US) software because they are nice small companies with good specialist products (and free demos), who really answer the phone. Except that Jack Bingham at ColorEyes doesn't speak to me anymore, because we disagree about calibration evaluation (I say look at the screen) but he is still a nice guy
Last, not least, calibrating laptops is a hard problem. Apple has just had a class-action suit filed against them because of the way they use dithering to disguise the 6-bit display hardware they use on some models -shame on them ! As Tom Lianza said some time ago, laptop displays seem to be getting worse rather than better, I guess because they are optimised for speed -video- and brightness.
I took an hour of ColorEyes' time over the phone to get an acceptable calibration out of my Macbook Pro 17, and got a slightly better one, I think, with Basiccolor. I'm not really happy, but it's not the software's fault, the screen is just yucky. The Powerbook I had before was much nicer although less bright.
Edmund
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Got a used iMac recently after being on an old laptop using OS 9 and needed the updated iMatch software for EyeOne Display to work on OS X. Since I was on dialup, downloading the huge file wasn't an option so I called up Xrite and asked if they could burn me the upgrade to CD and mail it to me.
They said no problem and I got it within a week.
That's service.