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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: pixeldoppelganger on October 24, 2023, 11:47:31 pm

Title: The most matte/flattest inkjet fine art paper?
Post by: pixeldoppelganger on October 24, 2023, 11:47:31 pm

Hey Forum,

Any thoughts or data somewhere... where the surface of a coated fine art cotton paper has the most matte or dead flat surface?
Also, it still needs to have a decent color gamut for color saturation.

Typically I'll use Epson Hotpress, Moab Entrada, Hahnemuhle PhotoRag 308

Anyone ever tested for this quality?  "most matte" surface??

Title: Re: The most matte/flattest inkjet fine art paper?
Post by: TSJ1927 on October 25, 2023, 09:15:08 am

Try, Harman By Hahnemuhle Matt Cotton Smooth, 100% Cotton, Smooth, White, Inkjet Paper, 300gsm ...... if you can find it. 
It came in rolls and sheets.  It is very very flat and smooth. I still have some of the original Harman Brand before Hahnemuhle took over.    It came in natural or bright white. Check Ebay.

Title: Re: The most matte/flattest inkjet fine art paper?
Post by: KeithR on October 25, 2023, 11:27:35 am

Have you looked into Canson's Arches 88 ?
I have used Canson's Rag Photographique but find that the Arches 99 is a lot brighter. 100% cotton with no OBA's. From their website:
www.canson-infinity.com/en/products/archesr-88

Title: Re: The most matte/flattest inkjet fine art paper?
Post by: Lessbones on October 26, 2023, 02:00:06 pm

Hahnemuhle Ultrasmooth has the least textured surface I've seen on any matte paper if that's what you mean by flattest--

Title: Re: The most matte/flattest inkjet fine art paper?
Post by: MichaelKoerner on October 27, 2023, 02:24:54 am

https://www.canson-infinity.com/en/products/baryta-photographique-ii-matt (https://www.canson-infinity.com/en/products/baryta-photographique-ii-matt)

Extremely "matte", smooth, high gamut

Title: Re: The most matte/flattest inkjet fine art paper?
Post by: Ernst Dinkla on October 28, 2023, 06:54:21 am

Quote from: MichaelKoerner on October 27, 2023, 02:24:54 am

https://www.canson-infinity.com/en/products/baryta-photographique-ii-matt (https://www.canson-infinity.com/en/products/baryta-photographique-ii-matt)

Extremely "matte", smooth, high gamut

Not a cotton paper though.

Another alpha-cellulose fibre type that has a very smooth matte surface is Innova Fibaprint White Matte 280 gr/m2  (short: IFA39). Not the tactile experience of for example Photorag Ultra Smooth, more rigid and harder but smoother than PUS.

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm

Title: Re: The most matte/flattest inkjet fine art paper?
Post by: Eric Brody on October 28, 2023, 12:21:39 pm

I have used Moab Entrada Natural as well as Canson Rag Photographique and loved them both, but Canson Arches 88 is just a spectacular paper, smooth, bright, as others will tell you, no OBA's. It's now my standard matte paper when quality really matters.

Title: Re: The most matte/flattest inkjet fine art paper?
Post by: MichaelKoerner on October 29, 2023, 12:16:55 pm

Quote from: Ernst Dinkla on October 28, 2023, 06:54:21 am

Not a cotton paper though.

Sorry, you are right of course.