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Title: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 03:57:14 pm
Hello all. I have a new Windows 10 computer. I'm using an Epson SC P800. When I try to print, I can only access Epson icc profiles. I have installed the hahnemule and innova profiles I want to use and they are in the same system 32 folder as the Epson icc profiles but Lightroom and Classic and Photoshop will only show me Epson profiles. I have reinstalled the printer without success. I have used Epson printers for 20 years so I'm not a newbie but this has me scratching my head. I have written Epson support but haven't heard back. Can anyone shed some light?

Thanks, Sharon
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 04:10:09 pm
Got a response from Epson which shows you the dismal state of their support. They sent me links to five articles that have nothing to do with my question and then asked me to complete a survey about how great their service is.  :'(
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: MDL_SD on August 30, 2021, 04:31:28 pm
Do a search to confirm/get details, but I believe that you need to install the profiles and reboot for them to be shown.  If my memory is correct you right click on the profile file and select install, but you should do a search on this.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 04:37:30 pm
I have them installed properly according to Epson's directions.  I have searched this but I can't find an answer. I guess I will have to call Epson support tomorrow. I have a ton of printing backlogged. It's so frustrating.  >:( Like I said I have used Epson printers for 20 years and I have had multiple new computers during that time. This is the first time I've had this issue. It may be something simple, I hope so.

Sharon
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 30, 2021, 05:09:52 pm
Can you upload a questionable profile for analysis?
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 05:23:31 pm
I uploaded to google drive here - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DlQsZEnIam0GB5xZalYcOSFsY4AVGmMk?usp=sharing

Thanks, Sharon
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 30, 2021, 07:09:15 pm
I uploaded to google drive here - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DlQsZEnIam0GB5xZalYcOSFsY4AVGmMk?usp=sharing

Thanks, Sharon
Can't download. It says I'll get an email after a request to do so, nothing.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 07:49:06 pm
Hmm. It won't let me upload the file here. I could email it to you if you trusted that. But I don't blame you if you don't.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 30, 2021, 07:58:11 pm
Hmm. It won't let me upload the file here. I could email it to you if you trusted that. But I don't blame you if you don't.
Dropbox, iCloud?
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 08:03:37 pm
Here is dropbox - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/myahyp700e856ky/AAAojJJ_8cV43YVmzXzGujz4a?dl=0
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 30, 2021, 08:27:25 pm
Profile shows up for me (Mac OS), no problem. Gotta be something on your end.
You did a "Right Click" on it, selected "Install Profile"?
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 08:32:00 pm
Yes. And it shows it's installed in the correct folder. I have never had this issue before.  ???
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 08:33:49 pm
I get the same behavior in lightroom and photoshop.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 30, 2021, 08:35:27 pm
I get the same behavior in lightroom and photoshop.
Its not the profile as far as I can see on this end. Some Win issue? Don't know.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 08:37:14 pm
I told Epson I would talk to Adobe tomorrow but I have a feeling it's in the driver with the latest Windows or something. Thanks for your help, Andrew. I'll report back when I get it resolved.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 30, 2021, 08:40:57 pm
Got nothing to do with the print driver. The profile should show up in Photoshop and it does here. I see it in “Convert to Profile” and can convert.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 30, 2021, 09:16:03 pm
Ok thanks. I will talk to Adobe and then my computer builder if needed.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: mcbroomf on August 30, 2021, 09:22:03 pm
I know you've done this plenty of times Sharon, but have you 3x checked the profiles are in the color sub dir and were not dropped into drivers for example?  It's happened to me with a twitchy mouse finger.

Do you have another way to print outside of Adobe?  Qimage for example?

Mike
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: Fred Salamon on August 31, 2021, 12:43:23 am
In Lightroom Classic, select soft proofing, click on the list of profiles. Then select Other, a window should open and list all the profiles available. Make sure that the profiles you want to use are checked otherwise they will not appear in the popup window.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 31, 2021, 09:28:00 am
If the ICC profiles don’t show up in Photoshops “Convert to profile” they’re not gonna show up in Lightroom.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 31, 2021, 09:51:23 am
Thanks guys. I will check with qimage. Thats a good idea. When i open the “other” profiles, all that shows are epson and display drivers. I am waiting for a client call before I call adobe but i will try qimage first.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 31, 2021, 09:52:46 am
They are in the correct folder.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 31, 2021, 10:13:14 am
The plot sickens. Qimage doesn't see the other profiles either.  :( I guess I will contact Puget Systems. They built our computers. Thanks McBroom for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 31, 2021, 12:44:33 pm
This is turning into one of those hot potato problems where everyone is pointing the finger at the other company.  :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 31, 2021, 12:46:42 pm
This is turning into one of those hot potato problems where everyone is pointing the finger at the other company.  :-\ ;D
It is either your system or where the profile resides but the facts are, the profile itself is fine, at least on my Mac.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: mcbroomf on August 31, 2021, 12:48:55 pm
You could take a look at the security/permissions of the folder the profiles are in, but I think as long as you could place them there it should be OK.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 31, 2021, 01:02:19 pm
I'm talking with adobe. One weird thing is both the profiles i added show 0 bytes on my computer. One is innova and one hahnemuhle.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: digitaldog on August 31, 2021, 01:07:13 pm
I'm talking with adobe. One weird thing is both the profiles i added show 0 bytes on my computer. One is innova and one hahnemuhle.
You machine or OS or something is super wonky!
Here's the profile you uploaded after being unzipped; it is 1.7mb.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 31, 2021, 01:08:28 pm
well that was the issue. When I right clicked to install it didn't install properly. doh. I drug it into the folder and that worked. Sorry to take up you guys time. I thought it had to be something simple and it was.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 31, 2021, 01:09:34 pm
Thank you Andrew. I think something is wonky also. as both profiles didn't install when right clicked. I will have to drag them all I guess. Thanks again, everyone.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on August 31, 2021, 01:11:34 pm
I will say that other than this issue, I LOVE my new computer. It is sooo fast. We got new 100mp cameras and the old computers both said nuh uh on working on those files.
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: TSJ1927 on August 31, 2021, 10:37:21 pm
Sharon,  Make sure the driver resides at/in this location:  C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color
Title: Re: Lightroom Classic and Photoshop only recognize Epson Profiles
Post by: SharonVL on September 01, 2021, 03:05:52 am
I will check that.