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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 28, 2019, 10:58:08 am
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#shotoniphone
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Very nice.
I think I need to take some lessons from you on how to take pictures with my iPhone.
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#shotoniphone
I’m confident you can handle a honest comment. :-)
Sorry, Slobodan, I find this terrible. The whole file is so broken, it’s technically rubbish and the subject is not saving it.
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I’m confident you can handle a honest comment. :-)
Sorry, Slobodan, I find this terrible. The whole file is so broken, it’s technically rubbish and the subject is not saving it.
Fair enough. I am not disagreeing.
A couple of points, though. This was taken in almost total darkness of a night club, where everyone, including the subject, was dancing, from vigorously to barely perceptible. I doubt that a real camera would have produced a better result under the circumstances.
It goes to show why the phone culture is so popular. On the screen size, on the Instagram and Facebook size (i.e., small and compressed) everything looks fine. It is only when pixel-peeping that the faults become obvious.
I used only my phone to post this image (my desktop is still days away). Have I had a chance, my display size here would probably be something like 800px on the long side, not 2048, as was the only option when sizing down the original.
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They wouldn't let me into a night club.
Stay young.
:-)
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Fair enough. I am not disagreeing.
A couple of points, though. This was taken in almost total darkness of a night club, where everyone, including the subject, was dancing, from vigorously to barely perceptible. I doubt that a real camera would have produced a better result under the circumstances.
It goes to show why the phone culture is so popular. On the screen size, on the Instagram and Facebook size (i.e., small and compressed) everything looks fine. It is only when pixel-peeping that the faults become obvious.
I used only my phone to post this image (my desktop is still days away). Have I had a chance, my display size here would probably be something like 800px on the long side, not 2048, as was the only option when sizing down the original.
I’m not a pixelpeeper. The strongest pictures I remember where printed on newspaper. Some pictures can survive even this iPhone maltreatment. This one, imo, not.
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They wouldn't let me into a night club.
Stay young.
:-)
With your Invicta? Certainly not! With your Rolex and a bundle of cash, o yes, you would
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With your Invicta? Certainly not! With your Rolex and a bundle of cash, o yes, you would
But Ivo, the Rolex, she is but a memory and a prop in a couple of snaps.
I already feel like a fraud with that rhinestone; but I really do use the bezel on these watches. If I don't go for a genuine walk in the real world after lunch, I do it on my terrace, changing rotation every fifteen minutes and lifting two water bottles a few times because I have no skill in walking upside down. That way, both pairs of long bits get exercise. In the mirror (when I'm too slow to avoid it), there appears to be no difference whether or not I walk. But the idea's the thing! And I don't have to fib to my cardio!
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... Some pictures can survive even this iPhone maltreatment. This one, imo, not.
I thought your initial comment was that the image is “technically rubbish”? Now you are saying it is so bad that even the iPhone excuse is not saving it? I wonder what is your esthetic issue with it?
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I thought your initial comment was that the image is “technically rubbish”? Now you are saying it is so bad that even the iPhone excuse is not saving it? I wonder what is your esthetic issue with it?
No, I’m saying that the image is not strong enough to survive the technical massacre.
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I like the irony in the title. Good one
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I like the irony in the title. Good one
Glad you noticed :)
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Actually, I rather like the photograph.
It has a distinct look, which depends on forgetting technical expectations and going with the flow. The girl also would be a nice flow with which to glow. As I said, to be young again, not just at heart, which apart from being a waste of time, is rather painful when it can't take one anywhere because of the ruin in which it finds itself, poor little thing.
Reminds me of Jerry Lee (wearing Liberace for some inexplicable reason).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofObEI9qPeU
:-)
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Actually, I rather like the photograph.
I do too.
It reminds me of the saying, "The best camera is the one you have with you."
I don't think a Deardorff would have been able to get as good an image. ;)
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I rather like it. It does have a plasticy look, but in a surreal cinematic way. Not a grainy filmy way. The tones are varied despite the strong facial light. The only thing I don't like is the shadow just above her upper lip. But that is small thing in the context of the look you have achieved.
JR
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... The only thing I don't like is the shadow just above her upper lip...
Hehe... that’s a normal reaction by normal people (men). However, If you had a chance to be enlightened by a makeup artist, you’d know that’s a lip liner. As per Harper’s Bazar:
Outlining your lips with a pencil that's one shade darker than your natural lip color will make them look instantly fuller and defined.
Girls tend to extend that line beyond the natural, for even “fuller” look, for better or worse. Works especially well in a dark night club :)
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I liked the thumbnail, disliked the intermediate and loathed the full enlargement.
Take from that what you will: it's the nearest anyone will get to a critique, from me.
;-)
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Hehe... that’s a normal reaction by normal people (men). However, If you had a chance to be enlightened by a makeup artist, you’d know that’s a lip liner. As per Harper’s Bazar:
Girls tend to extend that line beyond the natural, for even “fuller” look, for better or worse. Works especially well in a dark night club :)
Still won't keep others' eyes at face level, though, looking for that "even “fuller” look,"...
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I liked the thumbnail, disliked the intermediate and loathed the full enlargement...
#MeToo ;)
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I liked the thumbnail, disliked the intermediate and loathed the full enlargement.
Take from that what you will: it's the nearest anyone will get to a critique, from me.
;-)
Actually, you're touching on something else, too, beyond this specific shot.
I find that when I have to decide which of my pix are worth spending my time working on, the viewing size on the monitor plays a really major rôle, both in forming that decision, as in when doing the Photoshopping work later on. I find an image that's too large on the monitor defeats my ability to be critical of it because I see too much at once and have to scan, losing the overall emotional interest that resides in the whole.
That's also why I feel frustrated by those pictures that are published on LuLa that require me to alter their magnification by hand: they start with one strike against them.
It's not beyond the bounds of possibility to think that some photographers (or even painters?) cram into their pictures too many competing points of interest simply because of the scale on which they execute the creative work: they can't see it all in one look. Or don't believe in negative space.
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It's not beyond the bounds of possibility to think that some photographers (or even painters?) cram into their pictures too many competing points of interest simply because of the scale on which they execute the creative work: they can't see it all in one look. Or don't believe in negative space.
Well I am aware that people looking at pictures I publish are looking at a picture of the picture.
Say, like looking at it on a catalogue and not the real thing
I assume that the pictures are going to be looked at in a calibrated monitor. The dimensions are given
I know that this is not realistic, many people use their phones or some alleatory profile, impossible to know.
The real thing is the print, IMveryHO. Seen under proper light.
What we see here is just a good approximation 8)
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Actually, you're touching on something else, too, beyond this specific shot.
I find that when I have to decide which of my pix are worth spending my time working on, the viewing size on the monitor plays a really major rôle, both in forming that decision, as in when doing the Photoshopping work later on. I find an image that's too large on the monitor defeats my ability to be critical of it because I see too much at once and have to scan, losing the overall emotional interest that resides in the whole.
That's also why I feel frustrated by those pictures that are published on LuLa that require me to alter their magnification by hand: they start with one strike against them.
It's not beyond the bounds of possibility to think that some photographers (or even painters?) cram into their pictures too many competing points of interest simply because of the scale on which they execute the creative work: they can't see it all in one look. Or don't believe in negative space.
Observation distance seems a forgotten concept.
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Observation distance seems a forgotten concept.
Sadly, for many, along with the print.
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Actually, you're touching on something else, too, beyond this specific shot.
I find that when I have to decide which of my pix are worth spending my time working on, the viewing size on the monitor plays a really major rôle, both in forming that decision, as in when doing the Photoshopping work later on. I find an image that's too large on the monitor defeats my ability to be critical of it because I see too much at once and have to scan, losing the overall emotional interest that resides in the whole.
That's also why I feel frustrated by those pictures that are published on LuLa that require me to alter their magnification by hand: they start with one strike against them.
It's not beyond the bounds of possibility to think that some photographers (or even painters?) cram into their pictures too many competing points of interest simply because of the scale on which they execute the creative work: they can't see it all in one look. Or don't believe in negative space.
Whaddya gonna do?
Are we meant to size our images to suit the resolution of Rob C's choice of viewing device or perhaps our own? I size my web images posted to LuLa to suit my own calibrated and profiled monitor, when viewed at 100%. At the very least this enables me to view my own images as the creator - that's me, not God - intended.
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Found this Roversi photo which reminded me strongly of Enlightened.
Natalia Vodianova.
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Nice. And not too much lip liner.
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Found this Roversi photo which reminded me strongly of Enlightened.
Natalia Vodianova.
This is lovely.
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+1
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The latest iteration of LR Mobile finally provided the option to choose the size for saving a file, so here it is, at 600 px:
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Found this Roversi photo which reminded me strongly of Enlightened.
Natalia Vodianova.
You are not comparing the Roversi shot with the iPhone contraption, are you?
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The latest iteration of LR Mobile finally provided the option to choose the size for saving a file, so here it is, at 600 px:
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Yeah, 🙂🙂
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You are not comparing the Roversi shot with the iPhone contraption, are you?
The operative word was reminds.
Which it obviously did.
Off to my 8:26 appointment with the local Dracula! I hope they leave some in my arm.
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You are not comparing the Roversi shot with the iPhone contraption, are you?
I like both almost the same.
The Slobodan one looks more natural, more "street", the title is well thought.
More human.
The Roversi one is excellent but just one more of those of which we are more than used to see from mode photographers. More "studio"
Just my veeeery humble opinion 8)
I admit that I had do google "roversi". First I thought it was a camera or photographic technique.
Now i am a little wiser ;D
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All said, I think that in both shots it's not so much lipliner as lip shadow from low light. Nature and/or Botox work wonders as they also work disasters.
Also, in both these specific cases, I think Jerry Lee and I would be quite prepared to make idiots of ourselves; it's a boy thing, you know... and nobody can count past thirty-nine unless they work in a bank.
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Speaking of reminding... this one reminds me of the Roversi shot:
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Gee, and I thought "Roversi" was Italian for "Reversal," you know, like from Negative to Positive, like. 8)
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Speaking of reminding... this one reminds me of the Roversi shot:
And of something else much more important!
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Gee, and I thought "Roversi" was Italian for "Reversal," you know, like from Negative to Positive, like. 8)
I went that way too :(
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Guys, guys, back to school!
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Guys, guys, back to school!
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Nudi is a reference work. I was lucky to get a copy for not to much.
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Whilst I respect the Roversi oeuvre, he is not amongst my favourites. For my tastes, it is photography too wrapped in the old world of paintings. That does not in any way imply it isn't great, simply that I prefer other ways. Both Moon and Turbeville are given to romantic imagery too, but in a less overpoweringly and flamboyantly over-powdered and sweet manner. An Italian Eugenio Recuenco, then.
I suppose that I think him to photography what Alexander McQueen was to fashion.
Rob
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Fair enough. I am not disagreeing.
~ This was taken in almost total darkness of a night club, where everyone, including the subject, was dancing, from vigorously to barely perceptible. ~
I THINK the best part of this entire thread is that Slobodan was (1)in a nightclub, (2)late at night, in darkness, (3)on the dance floor, (4)joining the action, (5)documenting!! impressive!
[forgive me if this is too forward, I don't know you. I just like the visual and intend it as admiration]
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I THINK the best part of this entire thread is that Slobodan was (1)in a nightclub, (2)late at night, in darkness, (3)on the dance floor, (4)joining the action, (5)documenting!! impressive!
[forgive me if this is too forward, I don't know you. I just like the visual and intend it as admiration]
I would also be very impressed by Slobodan in a documentary about his nightclub life.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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I would also be very impressed by Slobodan in a documentary about his nightclub life.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Well, it's a lot more active than my nocturnal life!
For example: I had a short extension cable made that I could plug into a longer existing one so that I could plug in my earphones and listen to the tv in comfort, and again understand the words being spoken (there's something distorting the sound in the speakers); to my delight, the sound through the 'phones is perfect, so I can both enjoy selected programmes as well as rest assured that the problem doesn't reside in my ears. And the payoff? I watched a tv rerun of Universal Soldier, something that had already been on a discarded video cassette made years and years ago. Oh the thrill.
But Slobodan's an American now, and as with all Americans abroad, will be subjected to hundreds of new best friends in any bar into which he steps. Or at least, non-Middle Eastern ones.
I saw on the news yesterday - another song lurks - that music cassette sales have gone up into the 80,000s in Britain! Good news; I still have my double tape deck and it works! (It was always good to have a spare copy of anything just for the time when the original cassette decided to choke itself and the machine into silence.)
This could signal the imminent return of Kodachrome processing.
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I THINK the best part of this entire thread is that Slobodan was (1)in a nightclub, (2)late at night, in darkness, (3)on the dance floor, (4)joining the action, (5)documenting!! impressive!
[forgive me if this is too forward, I don't know you. I just like the visual and intend it as admiration]
Finally a gentleman’s comment in this thread! Thank you, Tod! :)
And (6) in a good company.
Dark it was.
(With apologies to Ivo for the horrendous image quality)
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Finally a gentleman’s comment in this thread! Thank you, Tod! :)
And (6) in a good company.
Dark it was.
(With apologies to Ivo for the horrendous image quality)
Because it’s all happening under the Betlehem star, it’s forgiven. :) :) :) :) :) ;)
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My personal wish for 2020 is that I might take an iPhone photo that would generate at least 46 comments on LuLa! ;)
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My personal wish for 2020 is that I might take an iPhone photo that would generate at least 46 comments on LuLa! ;)
A secondary wish for me is the same, but on the understanding that somebody else buys the cellphone for me as a gift. Otherwise, in the general rapport prix qualité...
My next wish, Eric, is that both of us continue well into the future sharing such desires on LuLa.
;-)
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A secondary wish for me is the same, but on the understanding that somebody else buys the cellphone for me as a gift. Otherwise, in the general rapport prix qualité...
My next wish, Eric, is that both of us continue well into the future sharing such desires on LuLa.
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What a strange world we are living in. In the old days, we wrote a letter to Santa, not so greedy to claim a brand new cellphone and preferably a photography low light capable one, but we asked for some moderate priced stuff, like east European asbestos and PCB oil containing electronics.
Now we claim our wishes at Lula. :o
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What a strange world we are living in. In the old days, we wrote a letter to Santa, not so greedy to claim a brand new cellphone and preferably a photography low light capable one, but we asked for some moderate priced stuff, like east European asbestos and PCB oil containing electronics.
Now we claim our wishes at Lula. :o
You mean LuLa isn't Santa??? :o
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You mean LuLa isn't Santa??? :o
You still believe in LuLa?
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You still believe in LuLa?
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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You still believe in LuLa?
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Both? Santa and LuLa?
:-)
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What a strange world we are living in. In the old days, we wrote a letter to Santa, not so greedy to claim a brand new cellphone and preferably a photography low light capable one, but we asked for some moderate priced stuff, like east European asbestos and PCB oil containing electronics.
Now we claim our wishes at Lula. :o
Moderately priced stuff; you must be speaking about Soviet "steel" that made my Fiat and then my Alfa? It also managed to make Lancia get withdrawn from Britain completely!
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Moderately priced stuff; you must be speaking about Soviet "steel" that made my Fiat and then my Alfa? It also managed to make Lancia get withdrawn from Britain completely!
And the Flemish steel for Lada. It corroded from inside out.
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Both? Santa and LuLa?
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And the Great Pumpkin, as well as the Great God Deardorff.
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And the Great Pumpkin, as well as the Great God Deardorff.
Those are very material gods, Eric. How about saints, such as Ansel the Elder, for starters, or minor ones in white?
This comes to mind right now (sitting on an unnaturally sunny terrace for winter, iPad on knees), because my recently discovered rock 'n' roll station - 77 Big Wave Radio, from Rockingham, North Carolina - has switched to bluesy gospel music, presumably because it's Sunday; boy, the devil sure don't have all the best music even if he shares some of the same musos!
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#shotoniphone
Striking image. Appropriate. Recognizable. Stylish. Tonal separation where it counts. Could be a billboard.
My preference would be a 3x4 aspect ratio, less prominent foreground hand. Otherwise...
Well done.